50 Shades: is it..........

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  RHP User

  10 years ago

  Apparently after using the safe word the Christian Grey charector did not stop. Consent is not given when using a stop word. Thats what we hear anyway....as we wouldnt pay good money to support such crap. To us it justifies domestic violence under the guise of fantasy. - Posted from rhpmobile

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  RHP User

  10 years ago

  I wasn't that keen based on the reports I had heard but we thought what the hell, it's our anniversary lets gold class it and see what all the fuss is about! We are not into BDSM at all ourselves, hair pulling with a deep fuck is about our limit. It was a lot better than we thought it would be and we actually enjoyed it but wouldn't rave about it. She was manipulating and teasing him as much as he was to her so it appeared consensual. The final BDSM scene where she asked for "the worst he could give her" or something to that effect, was the roughest part of the movie but I don't recall her saying any safe words at all. Yellow was "I'm close to my limit" and red was "stop I'm at my limit". I don't remember hearing her say either word. Happy to be corrected by someone who has seen it and heard differently. Anyway we fucked like animals back in our hotel and then again at 3am and in the morning so it stirred something ;)

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  RHP User

  10 years ago

  I read the books and loved them. Ok... I'll admit they were poorly written, with repetitive language used as she obviously isn't a highly skilled author. And I understand how some believe he was mentally and emotionally abusing Anastasia throughout their whole relationship... Control freaks have a reputation in the fictional world and the real world for being gifted at this. The bdsm in the novels was sexy, rather than confronting. And she consented to this, so I don't agree with rhe domestic violence aspect. Some women crave being dominated by men. What I adored about the books was the undercurrent of romance that was evident. In his way, he showed he absolutely couldn't live without her and he fell in love just as hard as she did. THIS was not translated to the film well AT ALL! The terrible acting, the non existant narration of Anastasias internalised thoughts (which are vital to understanding that she is warring with herself about loving a man whom she feels is 'fifty shades of fucked up"; we don't choose who we fall in love with), The fact that they cut so much from the book that set the scene and illustrated his love for her (not just the physical aspect) and the obvious lack of chemistry between the actors themselves on screen... made the movie the biggest let down ever. The last scene where he really goes to town on her with a belt is so clinical and made me feel ill. I haven't had much to do with the bdsm world, so I can't weigh in on how in line with that world it is, but I will say that I feel the books gave confidence to women who may have been afraid to ask for kinky fuckery before. It gave the timid a voice and made the kinky side of bedroom antics seem less intimidating. I'm sure RHP member numbera sky rocketed after the books and movie were released. X G - Posted from rhpmobile

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  RHP User

  10 years ago

  Not sure where the family/domestic violence angle comes from as this isnt my main concern. Its very soft BDSM as said above and pretty well made if you go to view it as a soft porn film - R rating is spot on. HOWEVER The girl is a virgin, she has never experienced sexual intercourse before. She is a 21 yo uni student about to graduate (seriously who is a virgin at uni at 21).He is a 29 yo high flyer, apparently self made and apparently irresistibly good looking. If he were a lecturer at her uni, we would be discussing his social responsibility to look after a younger student not salivating over his ability to take control of a naive and very innocent young girl. If she were 30 and he were 40 it would make more sense, she's had vanilla and wants something more, he has middle age power, authority and salt and pepper hair.... But she is not, she hasn't even had vanilla and he takes her into his toy shed.... at which point she thinks, yes I want to be fisted, penetrated by incredibly large toys and whipped whilst chained to the ceiling... just a tad sad really. So, okay soft porn, don't believe its real and try and pretend she isn't a virgin as this really is the bit that leaves a sour taste in my mouth.

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  ruby_blossum

  10 years ago

  My Mum passed them on to me after she had read them.... Personally, the books were just a "Mills & Boon" romance on a little bit of steroids with a really good Publicist. My Mum was a little concerned that "young women may feel that sexual violence is the norm" I pointed out to her as I do on the forums...the difference between sexual violence and the book is the storyline in the book, there is a contract involved. It is discussed and she goes along with the contract with some idea of what is in store for her. No idea what happens in the movie, havent seen it.

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  Missb4u

  10 years ago

  and having experienced domestic violence and BDSM I can say they are very different.

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  RHP User

  10 years ago

  If a young male with no sexual experience reads the books (and we all interpret books differently), does he get the impression that all sexual experiences should be like the book? I hope not, but he or she should know that it's fictional. If it gives women the confidence for what they seem, all for it. It all comes down to respect. I appreciate all your comments. Thank you.

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  RHP User

  10 years ago

  nor do I get why we have analyse the shit out of everything, it is a novel and a movie, fantasy or fiction ie not real, fabricated story. I don't think aliens are going to abduct me because I watched Earth Girls are Easy. It is called entertainment, if you think you will find it entertaining then read/watch it, if you don't then give it a miss. I don't go and watch a band I don't like just so I can piss and moan about how much I didn't like them.

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  TheLuckyOne

  10 years ago

  Ralf took the words right out of my mouth! It's just a movie. Move on!

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  RHP User

  10 years ago

  I thought her character was annoying and naive beyond belief. Come to think of it his character is beyond belief too. But I am over all this bullshit about him being manipulative and it being domestic violence. Its a load of psycho-babble being put out there by people who cannot understand the mind of a submissive. I also wonder how it would have been if she had been the dominant one and he the submissive? Would there still be such an outcry? I know there is a global focus on violence against women at the moment and I am in total agreement that there needs to be such focus, but let's highlight what domestic violence is and return our focus to where it really needs to be.

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  RHP User

  10 years ago

  Family violence dressed as erotica? Nope! And to simple_desires, the issue was that she DIDN'T use a safe word. And she was clearly given one. So let's go to the source, being the critics. So we can all google Lisa Wilkinson, Mia Freedman, Rosie Waterland et al. They all had polar reviews. The difference ended up being between those who had read the 3 novels, and those that saw the movie raw from not reading the very badly written books. Polar reviews, as it is 1/3 of a movie. By book 3 it's an atypical Mills & Boon happily ever after, married with kids, but i still like a spank! BDSM my arse. Quite literally. 3 novels and only one butt plug? Meeka would be horrified beyond belief. The ONLY way I can see this in a bad light is that it actually shows that women do feel uncomfortable saying no. And if you make me too scared to say no, that's not OK. But Ralf nailed it. It's fucking fiction people. And the BDSM community do not, in any way shape or form relate to a badly written trilogy by a 'Twilight' fan.

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  RHP User

  10 years ago

  She read it ? I thought well ... the money spent on that book / move could have saved a turtle somewhere or a rare bug 😊😊😊 or could have paid for our next entry too a play party 😜😜😜 there is soooo much more we could all do instead of paying someone too become Richer than thay are already please ? - Posted from rhpmobile

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  RHP User

  10 years ago

  Reminds me of that Commercial 😆 You know that one where the Haring fish says ... Eat the wagon wheel huhu eat the wagon wheel . - Posted from rhpmobile

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