NewVicCpl

NewVicCpl

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Anal Consent - Or Lack of

February 12 2018

Okay so have noticed this more and more of late and starting to get a little annoyed Whilst at a party and playing with other guys, there seems to be an assumed consent that the Mrs half is keen or up for Anal, no questions asked, just a move in and try it on. Not sure if it is us or not however I would have thought there would be conversation to be had before trying to go there, or is it just assumed that if you're playing in a room then your arse is fair game?

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  • OkeyDoke45

    OkeyDoke45

    7 years ago

    Where the sun don't shine! I would personally elbow someone in the face if they tried to go up the wrong'un without asking permission. I don't know how you have reacted in these situations thus far but I hope your partner knows she can say no, and you are prepared to back her up if she does.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    7 years ago

    Love it or hate it, they should never assume. I like anal only with select company, unlikely I would want it in a group situation. Highlights the risk of people joining in during play too, having not had a chance to discuss boundaries prior. Not saying that's the way it played out with you but poor form on their part

  • gazpacho

    gazpacho

    7 years ago

    The problem is that orgies are so dehumanised. Everyone seems to have hushed voices and instead of using their god given voice start gesticulating like horny mutes. It’s only when something odd happens... like wait... what? Is that a cock trying to get up my arse, that people say anything.... but not before waving an arm about, as if to shew a fly. The one thing I notice is that during sex at an orgy people don’t talk! It would be a hella lot funner if they did. You’re right of course, OP. You’d want to say something like “brace yourself” at the very least. I also admit to slipping... when you’re doing those big deep thrusts, you know the ones with complete withdrawal... then bam.... squeal... oops. I’m surely not the only one with a crooked radar. How embarrassing. Sorry love, you can do it to me now. Free hit. Hugs Gaz

  • DynamicCouple36

    DynamicCouple36

    7 years ago

    Seems to be quite common in the swinging scene. And many guys just assume it’s ok and take a chance without asking first. Maybe they have been watching too much porn? And then many think that it’s then acceptable to put that same finger or penis straight into a vagina after that , without washing the finger and or putting a new condom on the penis. We now specifically make mention of this’s before meeting anyone for play . They need to know the boundaries & rules . - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    7 years ago

    What you describe NewVicCpl is a small part of why I don't want to be involved in this scene any more, no judgement on the men, women, couples, pansexuals etc who have their fun with consideration of your partner/s. I think there is a case for respecting boundaries here, the way women are regarded is something finally coming to the forefront of social awareness. And the excuse of thinking with the little head gives me a vision of mindless zombies lined up with weapon in hand just looking for a hole to stick it in. This sort of story is what is going to give a bad name to swingers too... That's what will grab and hold the everyday person's attention... Instead of the pleasure and fun to be had. Okey, you can have my back anytime. Touch, yep, poor form. DynamicCouple, porn was the first thing that popped into my head. Peachy

  • FUCKONFIRSTDATE

    FUCKONFIRSTDATE

    7 years ago

    We commonly get guys trying, often it's no accident, their own wives will not be in it at home and they don't ask because they don't want to be told No. That said she is quite aware just where he is and a slight move ( if he is just off aim) or even a more severe hand push will always avoid penetration. we no longer attend any event where guys can think its a free for all and think its ok to treat her without respect. We now meet one couple at a time so I can be involved as well as his partner and protect her.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    7 years ago

    My wife would give the guy a permanent bend in his cock if he tried it on with her.....then he’d have to deal with me. (Mr D from Doubleup282) - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    7 years ago

    It takes a lot of prep to successfully perform anal and make it enjoyable for both parties so I can't see why you'd want to do it on the spur of the moment with people you dont know well.The only time I've ever come close to doing it on the spur of the moment I would say is with subs who are into rough play as a form of punishment. In those situations though there's always been a conversation beforehand that has included the sentence "what are your limits?"

  • Sawadee

    Sawadee

    7 years ago

    Agree... Doesn't matter who ' if you cant show the lady the respect she deserves ' you gotta expect to cop a elbow.. Surely asking beforehand can't be all that hard ? If it's no... It's NO...

  • Sawadee

    Sawadee

    7 years ago

    Agree... Doesn't matter who ' if you cant show the lady the respect she deserves ' you gotta expect to cop a elbow.. Surely asking beforehand can't be all that hard ? If it's no... It's NO...

  • MsJonesy

    MsJonesy

    7 years ago

    Similar happen to me a couple of times, but a few years ago. Now I don't play in a group situations unless I know the (majority) of participants. Its my arse, I get to decide who plays with - and thats never a random at a play event. I have always been mighty tempted to deploy an easy solution....carry a nice (okay, a large) sized dildo with me and if someone tries it, tell them of course its okay....but I insist I service you first....sans lube😈 🥒🍆🍍

  • RHP

    RHP User

    7 years ago

    I’ve not particapted in an orgy for ages and usual I stick to my friends... I’m a vanilla girl at heart :P, but when others have been invited to the group play there is often a move, a cock being rubbed up against your bum, etc. As soon as I feel that I pipe up and tell them No. I’ve never had a guy purposely go from front bum to back bum bid bonk. Not that I can remember anyway. I don’t think I am shy to speak up about that. Although other things, fingers, hands... while wifey is watching saying nothing.... when uninvited I usually push the hand away. Sometimes, (older men in my experience) will try again and again to go there. You try and be polite, but clearly the way we (women) communicate is not clear enough. I know even by boyfriend hasn’t been sure what I was saying. Oh well, perhaps “Touch me and Ill kill you” .... too harsh? 😇

  • The_Antichrist

    The_Antichrist

    7 years ago

    It’ll involve white coats, and 200 question checklist that resembles something out of dolly magazine that is graphed, charter and used as evidence against them.... - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    7 years ago

    Oh. I know your type. I bet you’re one of those stealthy arse bandits that creeps up on a girl unawares. Here we are at a club with our slighty pink flushed butt cheeks waving around in the air and BAM! Mr Arse bandit strikes again. Lol. Just jokes.

  • gazpacho

    gazpacho

    7 years ago

    Well, I certainly wouldn’t dive in bandit style without at least spitting on that ripe date a couple of times (helps prevent cock chaffing, I heard), so I figure that’s a pretty clear indicator of intent. Ladies and gentlemen, if a dude spits on your sphincter he’s going in. Now’s the time to object! 🤠 Hugs Gaz

  • RHP

    RHP User

    7 years ago

    Anyone spits on my sphincter is a dead man! Just because it may be winking at you doesn’t necessarily mean it’s an invitation. Ya know!?!

  • madotara69

    madotara69

    7 years ago

    Anyone we're playing with, often a few at least, there's gonna be a bout of double penetration, also gaining momentum.Quoting 'Pommyfucker' It takes a lot of prep to successfully perform anal and make it enjoyable for both parties so I can't see why you'd want to do it on the spur of the moment with people you dont know well.The only time I've ever come close to doing it on the spur of the moment I would say is with subs who are into rough play as a form of punishment. In those situations though there's always been a conversation beforehand that has included the sentence "what are your limits?" Sure there is some prep, lot's ? Tara has it down pat in a few minutes and (successfully perform), she's right to go at any point in time, she enjoys anal as part of any sex we have, be it threesomes, or group play, not much mucking around either, if it fits she'll go bonkers and if it doesn't, she'll just say, it's too big and wiggle her hips rendering confusion with a moving target, won't even need to come up from where she's managing feverishly. We've had a few women amongst us and they have all been much the same as Tara, into anal, DP and with people they don't know well. It's never been a situation where asking if anal is on the cards, there just seems to be this way they stick their arse up into the air, in all due respects, other than it being magnificent, it'd feel odd while mesmerised by a wonderful sight and wanting gesture, not to just fuck her while she's baring down on a cock with her throat. Be a bit rude disturbing her to ask why she has her arse all prepped, perky and ripe up like the way it is like that, would she like a cock in it ?, wouldn't understand her gargle anyway. Otherwise, it'd probably be better to ask if it wasn't so telling. Mado Mado Tara xx

  • OkeyDoke45

    OkeyDoke45

    7 years ago

    I have often wondered if I would enjoy an orgy, going by the comments of those experienced in them here they don't sound like much fun.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    7 years ago

    Mind me asking how she douches/cleanses in a few minutes? I use at least one enema, you know stick of dynamite to blow up the solids 😂 that alone takes 10 minutes or more if I decide on a second one, then shower and douche with my squirty thing, fair bit of time there making sure it's all really clean. Just wondered, be good to be able to do it quicker

  • RHP

    RHP User

    7 years ago

    For those who have these group sessions where anal just 'happens', do you leave to shower immediately after contact with her anus, hands/cock/face/mouth? I doubt it and that IMO is so disrespectful to women and their health. Urinary tract infection would probably follow if I was cross infected and I would be pissed, scuse the pun

  • RHP

    RHP User

    7 years ago

    Kissing an arse, then missing me, yuck 😕

  • NewVicCpl

    NewVicCpl

    7 years ago

    On a positive for us, Mrs NvC is very comfortable and quick to say NO and that has generally been enough for all concerned to understand it's not going to happen. Was just wishing guys (single or partnered) would stop the behaviour as if it gets bad enough I can easily see it coming down to a far more restrictive play time which isn't what we want. Thanks for all the comments though, some good reading

  • RHP

    RHP User

    7 years ago

    Lol all I can say is I really wanna go to one of your parties!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    7 years ago

    Haha kissing not missing 😂

  • madotara69

    madotara69

    7 years ago

    Tara's a bit like a little reindeer, she pops little pebbles out, finger up the bum and pushes while twirling round about, clean as a whistle and skips off to the car with all her carry bags. The jet wash has nothing much to do with that though, I find her all the time down on all fours, jet wash hitting her clit she spends more time having an orgasm than anal prep lol.

  • madotara69

    madotara69

    7 years ago

    Forgot, yes. always a shower nearby and we all use it for hygiene and refreshing to cool down.

  • madotara69

    madotara69

    7 years ago

    Quoting 'Pommyfucker' Lol all I can say is I really wanna go to one of your parties! Give us a call, it's a smile does it every time, Tara says "you can leave your shoes under our bed babe xx"

  • RHP

    RHP User

    7 years ago

    Popping pebbles lol You're not feeding her enough. Or maybe you are, more of a liquid diet? 😉

  • madotara69

    madotara69

    7 years ago

    We don't drink much alcohol, we eat the same food, think it's the kiwi in her, maybe like sheep pebbles, the Gypsies blood in her makes her mischievous, doubt it's related to the pebbles Chocolate, she eats way more chocolate than me

  • RHP

    RHP User

    7 years ago

    No I meant a different kind of liquid diet lol 😁

  • madotara69

    madotara69

    7 years ago

    That's our thing, foreplay for hours, into heightened state and fuck in euphoria, time becomes an essence, girls have got it spoilt silly by mother nature, clitoral orgasms, vaginal orgasms, A spot, G spot, U spot, cervical, anal, asphyxiation, kissing, nipple squeeze, deep throating orgasms, whisper sweet words nibbling earlobe orgasms, combination orgasms, ultimate orgasms, full bodied uncontrollable muscle spasm orgasms, girl on girl sensual orgasms, arse slapping, hair pulling, rough play, sensual massage, connection orgasms, jet spray shower head orgasms, then toys, kinks, fetish, deep penetration, double penetration, double vaginal, double anal orgasms, more We get one. Tara is out, no cum in mouth, not a chance, never have in 28 years I'd blow her brains out.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    7 years ago

    I love it in my mouth and on my face, but then I'm more into oral than fucking I suppose. All yummy though 😛

  • Great_vibes

    Great_vibes

    7 years ago

    Just be sure to state the rules when you or they first engage. Then everyone is clear where they stand. And if they still try tell them play is over and to fuck off. A lot of rude spider monkey guys out there...even in couples. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • Great_vibes

    Great_vibes

    7 years ago

    Just be sure to state the rules when you or they first engage. Then everyone is clear where they stand. And if they still try tell them play is over and to fuck off. A lot of rude spider monkey guys out there...even in couples. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • bonefide

    bonefide

    7 years ago

    Anti that's about the size of it. I'd probably fail the piss test at the start due to lack of study. Must be rocket science for people to ask, communicate, and understand the word "No". Off track maybe Aren't trades, told to use the back door only, and gentlemen use the front door. LOL All visitors report to front office of this site to receive, safety brief, on no go areas. And update on the path/road u must stay on,😆😀😁

  • RHP

    RHP User

    7 years ago

    ...then as the Pat Benatar song goes, hit 'em with your best shot! 💩💩💩 Shit happens, eh? - Posted from rhpmobile

  • The_Antichrist

    The_Antichrist

    7 years ago

    Do you take along wavers for them to sign and a copy held by both parties? Is the ole wink a goer?? Or is it contractual like bdsm arrangement?? The mind boggles lol - Posted from rhpmobile

  • MsJonesy

    MsJonesy

    7 years ago

    Sure hope its not the wink...she may have just copped a sperm spray in the eye 😜

  • RHP

    RHP User

    7 years ago

    This sounds awfully like rape...

  • RHP

    RHP User

    7 years ago

    Quoting 'MsJonesy' Sure hope its not the wink...she may have just copped a sperm spray in the eye 😜 Sounds like someone is at an auction......the bid is $1,234,567 ....winx winx winx oops wink LOL......

  • RHP

    RHP User

    7 years ago

    I do enjoy your comments, yourself and Meander quite often make my day :) - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    7 years ago

    There is no presumption, if you are with one or 21 the respected thing to do is ask

  • RHP

    RHP User

    7 years ago

    These guys do use condoms? - Posted from rhpmobile

  • madotara69

    madotara69

    7 years ago

    occupy the attraction, reserved. Personally a but plug with the most suited fur tail that doesn't clash with the heels. A win win if they can't get in !! reowww, feisty and a whole new perspective Mr NvC.

  • rhino2

    rhino2

    7 years ago

    Every time I play with couples/women I always learn their preferences and their fantasies through conversation. If there is no mention of anal, I don't ask and I don't go there. It is just being respectful... That's common sense... Isn't it? - Posted from rhpmobile

  • MisterFit

    MisterFit

    7 years ago

    I can't believe people would just try that without asking.. I am pretty sheltered when it comes to group play and the likes but if i was ever to attend something like it (hopefully in the near future) I would never even think to try something like that without permission.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    7 years ago

    I think we are talking about a orgy situation at clubs aren’t we? Could be 10, 20.... 100 people all naked in a room going for it (and I have been in all those situations). Of course it’s mainly small groups playing with each other but often there is a cross over. Perhaps my boyfriend has given a wink and a nod to a few people to come join us.... I may not have spoken to them at this point. But it should be customary to ask first. “Do you mind if I cum on your tits” “Mind if I suck your boyfriends most handsome knob” “Do you mind if I pound your arse” Etc But some men are overwhelmed by all the glistening pink bits in the room and become uncontrollable with lust and they forget their manners. Perhaps it’s instinct? Here is my erect knob and there is a winking sphincter. I remember this game .... long thing goes into the hole. 😂 Love you boys, but as Mr Tom Crusie said... put your manners back in before entering the orgy room. xx

  • summerfun69

    summerfun69

    7 years ago

    Not just try sneak in the back door! - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    7 years ago

    I touch myself...You seem to have me blocked. Why. I have a great looking dick and I love to give oral.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    7 years ago

    Quoting 'madotara69' That's our thing, foreplay for hours, into heightened state and fuck in euphoria, time becomes an essence, girls have got it spoilt silly by mother nature, clitoral orgasms, vaginal orgasms, A spot, G spot, U spot, cervical, anal, asphyxiation, kissing, nipple squeeze, deep throating orgasms, whisper sweet words nibbling earlobe orgasms, combination orgasms, ultimate orgasms, full bodied uncontrollable muscle spasm orgasms, girl on girl sensual orgasms, arse slapping, hair pulling, rough play, sensual massage, connection orgasms, jet spray shower head orgasms, then toys, kinks, fetish, deep penetration, double penetration, double vaginal, double anal orgasms, more We get one. Tara is out, no cum in mouth, not a chance, never have in 28 years I'd blow her brains out. Actually we get the Jet Shower head orgasms as well. I've tried that and it's a lot of fun when travelling for work and you need to unwind at the end of a long day. I find it can be quite intense too...

  • RHP

    RHP User

    7 years ago

    I hate reading things like this happening. It annoys me partly because it just adds more weight to the "beware of the single man" syndrome that goes on and ruins it for the respectful ones. Never been in at a party before so not sure how one would communicate this (ground rules before things start comes to mind...), but surely any respectful guy is going ask/confirm in some unambiguous way before trying it on. I don't understand what there is to be gained by not asking permission. You're just going to potentially upset the person and their partner at minimum - isn't the whole point of this to try and bring pleasure to the other person?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    7 years ago

    What makes you think it is single men doing that? Most parties are made up of couples.... And in some settings or parties a lot of people may not mind. I assume some guys just try it on because you never know.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    7 years ago

    Quoting 'CandyDelicious' What makes you think it is single men doing that? Most parties are made up of couples.... And in some settings or parties a lot of people may not mind. I assume some guys just try it on because you never know. Good Point - I'm not experienced in this area - I just assumed it was single guys. I guess my preconception was that guys with partners have learned to be respectful of their partner and thus respectful of women too and not just "try it on". But I'm not the PC police of relationship etiquette either. All I know is what I've learned and experienced, so having not been in this situation, I'm just making my own viewpoint, and that is I would err on the side of caution, even if some wouldn't mind and just be sure. For me I'd rather play it safe than risk upsetting someone for my own pleasure.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    7 years ago

    Yep. I’m sure 98% of people are the same. But there are some men AND WOMEN that don’t get that. So it’s not always just the men who are are pushy or try it on. Just an interesting point. I used to frequently go to Couples club here in Sydney. On theme nights they could get a really decent sized crowd in. 100 people. And the club rule ( not sure about other clubs) is that no man is allowed to walk around the play areas on his own. So, if your wife feels like hanging out at the bar for a drink, hubby has to stay up there too. So, that says to me that men on their own (married or single) act the same when their partner is not there. So I assume you can’t just say “single men” are the problem. Single as in they are by themselves. I preferred it when it was a bit more fluid - when couples just stuck together I found it a bit boring. However, I have been with couples when the guy has been asked by staff where his partner was because they’d been walking around on their own.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    7 years ago

    Uhhhhhh... Unless it had been discussed prior or I had been told it's ok / they are into it I wouldn't even consider going there... I guess some people just don't share similar values of consent. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • wannatry105

    wannatry105

    7 years ago

    Not going in there and nothing going in mine ..pass thank you.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    7 years ago

    I've never had a man assume I'm up for anal and I've always been the one to offer if he is pushing all the right buttons and then they are so excited and feel like they've won the lottery it's kinda cute lol. I've only ever done anal with 2 guts apart from the hubby and my fav is getting dp'd and I can't wait till the next time mmmmmmm mmmmmmm xx - Posted from rhpmobile

  • DeanW

    DeanW

    7 years ago

    Pick the guys just for their gym bods and ur probably gonna get a good percentage of brainless fuckheads. Any dumb @#%£ who tries that without consent or invitation should be chucked out on the street. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • NewVicCpl

    NewVicCpl

    7 years ago

    Have not mentioned, nor have we ever picked guys for their gym bodies....... Personality and attitude goes so much further than body mage

  • RHP

    RHP User

    7 years ago

    You can call gym people braimless fucktards but I can't comment on couch potato slobs. Only fair we level the playing field here? More invisible ink I'm sure but the important thing? You read it. Now wake up to yourself

  • madotara69

    madotara69

    7 years ago

    It's starting to look as though women are incapable of fending for themselves, if a guy tries it on and she doesn't like the idea, it's not going to happen. Give the women some credit where due, IMHO If a bloke respects women, he'll know if she wants it, let's not get that confused with what anyone else thinks is best for her, yeah?

  • DeanW

    DeanW

    7 years ago

    Ok so I’ve clearly made a generalisation and gotten it wrong...guilty as charged, did not mean to offend. I actually mean anyone who feels a level of entitlement, for any reason, to behave like they do not need to ask for permission first.... or if they do simply not think and make that mistake will learn very quickly and not make it again. Learning how to be a better person never stops, I just learned something from my last comments... actually grateful to be set right to those who responded. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • madotara69

    madotara69

    7 years ago

    Good on you Alfie, sort of takes the fizz out right wrong, better temperament for your thoughts here, than taking offense and chucking a hissy fit, which would show a sense of guilt, so you don't come across as guilty, just a perception and with an open mind for any differance of opinions. Noticed and appreciated mate. Mado Mado Tara xx

  • DeanW

    DeanW

    7 years ago

    Thanks Mado, very gracious of you to say so. ;) - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    7 years ago

    I interesting you say this, I went into a play room with 1 other woman and 2 men, before we started she stated her limits which was simply "no anal". Perhaps she had had a bad experience before? Gees I thought you never go in the back entrance without checking first! - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    7 years ago

    Can you imagine the reaction if a woman put their fingers up a guys ass without asking? Some guys like it, but gees I'd always ask before doing that! Or at least touch around the area and if they push towards me that means they want it, kind of thing. - Posted from rhpmobile