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Can a woman be a "dud root" ?

August 27 2015

Hi All, This is largely a question for the guys from Mr him_and_me. Feel free to comment ladies if you feel you have something to share. Sorry for the term "dud root" by the way...can't think of any other way to phrase it. I know many women can say they've had bad experiences with guys in terms of performance. That might mean not being able to get or sustain an erection, or premature ejaculation or simply being a selfish lover. Those types of things I can understand, but I've wondered if, purely from a physical perspective, can a woman ever be considered to be a dud root? For me, what makes things exciting is seeing genuine desire and excitement for me...and the situation... in my partner. If I find a woman attractive, and can see that she is interested and excited by me...I can't quite fathom how the sex could ever be bad. From a physical perspective, getting oral and penetrative sex with some passion is always going to achieve the desired result. Starfishing is not passionate, so rule that type of thing out now. So guys, is there anything from a physical point of view that could make for a bad experience for you? Him P.S. - I'm very lucky to have had only wonderful sexual experiences thus far with wonderful women....but I've also only played with few women, so my experiences may vary from others. - Posted from rhpmobile

Comments

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    I can't see why not. Perhaps if she's too shy or awkward or even too quiet? Surely both sexes are just as capable at being lousy lovers. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • AnnieWhichway

    AnnieWhichway

    9 years ago

    Varying degrees but there have been a couple that l would soon forget in that way but by the same token they were so bad that you dont forget....ever. The term, ' sack of potatoes 'may well sum them up.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Of corse they can. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    From hygiene to being uninterested and just 'laying there'. Teeth while giving a bj..., etc. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    And it's not all that uncommon. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • chevtrek

    chevtrek

    9 years ago

    But mostly those who are real stunners and Ibelieve they think looks means you don't need effort.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Hi, Mostly a dud root is one where only one person seems to be contributing...Laying with your legs spread and nothing more is not that exciting. I always like a bit of vocal activity and to know when a woman is coming...So yes dud roots are very possible. LC

  • Hottie1

    Hottie1

    9 years ago

    How some guys get a hard on. At a particular party, hubby avoided a woman because she just lay there with an occasional moan! But then he gets to have sex with me, all else fails in comparison. 😈 Mary xx

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Lol do you have a certificate of appraisal for that claim?? 😝 ;) :p - Posted from rhpmobile

  • Hottie1

    Hottie1

    9 years ago

    FIGJAM 😈😎

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    We all have expectations of great sex/love making but most of us have had a dud at some point😯 - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    I broke up with a woman because she was a startfish. In hindsight I could have done it better than by text and on valentines day, but hey, it needed to be done.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Just as easy for the women as the men to be duds

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    But there's still time :) But 90% of the women have been in group (incl couples) or swinger party scenarios, or has an interest in them, so perhaps that has an effect of attracting women that are sexually open and confident. I like to think I'm a good judge of character, so someone who simply "doesn't care" much in bed, would probably show that in their lack of effort or their other attitudes to life in general, and/or not show much passion or intimacy before you get to that stage. I haven't had the volume of more private liasons to make a general judgement call though. But I do think that someone who is highly engaging on other levels will be engaging and reciprocal in bed (with the possible exception of someone doing their best to cover up sexual inexperience, but I haven't had someone like that).

  • horneycouplewa

    horneycouplewa

    9 years ago

    What's starfishing. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    One sticks in my mind. Hot as body but just lay there no matter what.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    We all like to think we are awesome roots....but we all have off days

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    I think it's who u r with. Well for me personally. When the chemistry or animal attraction is there. When u both know how each other ticks. It brings out the best in u..... - Posted from rhpmobile

  • him_and_me

    him_and_me

    9 years ago

    It seems this is largely unanimous in terms of people's opinions. I think I'm just wearing rose coloured glasses due to my own experiences then..as while experiences have certainly varied, they've all been pretty great. I do understand that things like just laying there, or lacking interest or something like that would be quite off putting but I was thinking more of the physical aspects. Someone mentioned hygiene and oral technique with teeth (the enjoyment of the latter could be subjective)...and yup...I guess it that sort of physical thing that I hadn't considered. Annie you also mentioned a...sack of potatoes...I'm guessing by that you mean clumsiness or unceremounious dealings with you? Koko...I know what you mean about having off days. I've had em and it is kinda what led to this post. I wondered what would constitute and off day for a woman. Thanks for all the replies. Him xx - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    I'm a dud root if I make a poor choice and I'm just not turned on by you and I'd rather be fast asleep iny own bed... Yep it happens - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    If there is no spiritual or intellectual connection then it's dud all the way... Did dud and Diddly dud c'est la vie lol lol 😂😂😂😂😂 - Posted from rhpmobile

  • Mischeviouslad

    Mischeviouslad

    9 years ago

    OP. You said "for me", which implies some things are not for you.... do the clear conclusion is that those things which are not for you could become your definition of dud. However...... the difference between the sexes is that most men will still pursue a known dud root if it's the choice between a dud root or no root. Especially if she's a "stunner"..... lol. I'm still laughing at the concept of that. 😄 But - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Sadly, a man can be called a "dud" because of symptoms of health disorders. This is definitely the same with women. I have a friend who has the most unfortunate vaginal disorder that, despite all the best gynecological treatment, makes penetration very painful for her and something she has had to learn to tolerate in order to participate fully in sex with her partner. Because of this, she can only tolerate intercourse for 5 to 10 mins at a time, and in missionary only, with a small to moderately sized penis, and she needs 2 days to recover. She orgasms from external clitoral stimulation only, so loves to get eaten out, but can't really be "fucked" the way a healthy woman can. This does in some mens eyes, make her a dud root. There are tons of weird and wacky medical conditions and human variations out there, some impair our ability to make the sweet sweet lurrve, and despite how often we talk about male sexual "failures", they do effect the sexes equally.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Cameron harvey... Always a dud root .... but for every one else it's down to the variables of life. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    perhaps your starfish was matching your pokeroot? - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Someone who isn't into it... or very insecure which means she doesnt let you appreciate her body. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    but lets face it it takes two to be a great root !! - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    I was involved in an MMFF foursome not that long ago where the other woman claimed to be bi, but after a little kissing went for the guys and ignored me completely. She was certainly no starfish and actively engaged with both men, but my playmate (who was unaware at the time) and I decided we would not be playing with them again. Would I call her a dud root? I don't think she was bad in bed, though for me personally yes, mainly because she wasn't honest about what she was after.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Was just going by your post. ;-)

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Fear, shock, and amazement at the sight of a man's member can render women powerless to move at times. Assuming she's still giving the green light, that leaves a man plenty of room to prance like a peacock and show his stuff, swing from the chandeliers, jump off the ropes etc. I had this happen once. She just lay there, didn't do anything. As far as acrobatics and trapeze work goes, she was a starfish, but I was amazing 😂. Meander, I'm sure you don't get too many knock backs, but maybe she just wasn't that into you. What about him. Was he into you, and out of you, and in, and out, & in & out & in & out & in & out in out in out in out??? 😍

  • chevtrek

    chevtrek

    9 years ago

    But I have had sex better than with my partner so nolonger believe sex and love are the same thing butmore sex is used to express love. Quoting 'morganaschild' If there is no spiritual or intellectual connection then it's dud all the way... Did dud and Diddly dud c'est la vie lol lol 😂😂😂😂😂 - Posted from rhpmobile

  • Rainmaker007

    Rainmaker007

    9 years ago

    From being starfish,poor hygiene,bad kissing,squeezing sensitive parts too hard...etc - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    A starfish is a woman who just lies there with her arms and legs spread, not doing much of anything. See the resemblance? ;-)

  • Twisted_Mister

    Twisted_Mister

    9 years ago

    Ever so slightly off topic.... Waaaay back in the day when I was a baggy-arse private in an infantry battalion, sometimes we got rostered to work in officers' mess on weekend mornings. Serve them breakfast and so on. Aside from hunting around outside for cane toads to throw on the hot plate alongside the officers' bacon and eggs to infuse them with cane toad juice which would hopefully bring on some gastro, part of our job was to deliver their mail to them at the dining table, which was sitting in pigeon holes in another room. To my delight, I got to not only serve my own platoon commander (who was an obnoxious twit two years younger than I was) toad-drenched bacon, but also his mail - which on this day was a bunch of dead flowers. The card read: 'Dear John. Dead flowers for a dead root. Susan.' Me: 'Your mail, Sir.' Him: (looks at flowers, reads card) 'Private, did you read this card?' Me: 'Of course not, Sir.' Him: 'Very well. That will be all.' Me: 'Yes Sir.' One of the best days of all time. He was sick for a week afterwards. Wait - what were we talking about? - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Never a dud, stinky sometimes, too talky other times, too rough, too quiet, too picky, too slutty, too pricey, and too cheap... mmm... too busy, too dull, too dumb and oh god.. too smart. Too demanding too many instructions, too still "yo wake up!" too sleepy, too drug fucked, too drunk, not drunk enough, too ugly, two big tits, too tight, too loose. Too dry, too hairy, too prickly, too butch, too feminine, too gay, too straight, too weird, too foul mouthed, too kinky, too normal, too white, too lazy, too fat, too skinny, too perfect, too nice, too desperate, too married... Well you get the picture, but I live in hope that I will get a dud some day, it will be a welcome change.

  • him_and_me

    him_and_me

    9 years ago

    Was meant to distinguish my opinion from others MicheviousLad. I was meant to suggest that assuming there was passion and mutual attraction and excitement, then I can't imagine how someone would be....less than ideal (i'll use that term rather than "dud". Hopefully that sounds. better Meander 😉). It wasn't meant to suggest this works for me....but other things don't. I think I've been really lucky with partners so far as they've all been generous lovers and fun to be around making for an overall pleasureable experience. I think the idea of being disinterested would be evident prior to making it to playtime and maybe that is just part of an internal screening process that goes on. TM - If I ever recieve a card and dead flowers from now on...I'll vow not to open the card and simply remain blissfully unaware 😊 - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    For me there is nothing worse than an semi-catatonic bed-space abuser! There are quite a few women out there who are so complacent in the bedroom it makes me wonder why they bother. Yep - women can be total dud roots.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Are usually submissives in bed and usually like to be 'taken', if that makes sense? - Posted from rhpmobile

  • onepurpose2010

    onepurpose2010

    9 years ago

    Dear All, there are no dud roots, just dud arousal...

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    In many cases, if the passion and attraction is there, the sex is usually always pretty good. The "duds" I've known have all been from the "you'll do" list.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    What a stupid question lol of course they can - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Yup... it is all about attitude... having enthusiasm. Sure there are turnoffs physical... but it is the approach... the mind... that glint in the eye that excites me... and gets me lost in the moment... that look of lust and connection.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Yes for sure..from just lying there to not wanting to try and make it any better.. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Quoting 'jaybaby77' Someone who isn't into it... or very insecure which means she doesnt let you appreciate her body. - Posted from rhpmobile This is another common reason some women are shit in the sack. A friend of mine suffers badly with this, she is too self-conscious to ever get on top, so it's missionary or doggie positions only, and she almost never has an orgasm. She is a ball of tightly-wound insecurities that make her practically paralysed in the bedroom. Certain that any wrong angle she shows may have her bf running for the exit. It's really sad because she's physically gorgeous and he loves the shit out of her. Yet, back when she was single and not invested in her partner, she was free, uninhibited and fucking wildfire in bed. So how's that for a conundrum, the moment you CARE about someone, you become too insecure to love/fuck them fully.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    There's no such thing as a "dud root" (horrible term btw) or even a bad kisser for that matter. It simply is a matter of compatibility. If they're a dud root for you, chances are the feeling is mutual. Focus on the chemistry and the compatibility will take its course. If it's not there, accept it or move on. Mr CountryCpl ✌ - Posted from rhpmobile

  • hardnslow

    hardnslow

    9 years ago

    Yes I have been unlucky enough to find a couple, I was married to one for a long long time and thought it was normal till I joined RHP and met a girl on here that changed my whole outlook on sex. They say you cant teach an old dog new tricks try me lol. She used to just lay there or on her side and lift a leg. Self service was far easier I only needed tissues for me not for 2.

  • nytewyng

    nytewyng

    9 years ago

    Quoting 'TequilaCouple' From hygiene to being uninterested and just 'laying there'. Teeth while giving a bj..., etc. - Posted from rhpmobile I think the "dud root effect" comes into play through lack of confidence/experience, not taking feedback on board, poor hygiene and a closed mind.I used to go out with a young woman who wouldn't go down on me, but also had an unfortunate smell and taste that made it impossible for me to initiate the oral enjoyment. I was honest to the point of brutal bluntness to no avail. Needless to say, we went our separate ways shortly after. Another ex gf used to go down on me like it was a chicken drumstick after 3 weeks of no food! Too many teeth and raw skin on the johnson isn't conducive to wanting any kind of sexual contact. Thankfully, she took it on board and it was awesome after that! I've found that the women that I have met from RHP do not fall into the "dud root" category. Thanks OP for this topic!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Commonly known as a starfish! Lol - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Absolutely...I've had a few. Most frustrating is the lack of stamina, im gearing up for at least a 5 hour marathon and she's done in 2mins...very annoying.... - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    I have been with more dud males than females lol. By far haha. But had one chick "dud root" worst. few years back. When she was going down on me she started biting me hard. Left teeth mark i had to say what r u doing stop please almost right away. Omg then she cried worst ever. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • Dimeshreds

    Dimeshreds

    9 years ago

    I have had a girlfriend that was a starfish and it was always awkward, she was so charismatic outside of the bedroom then she just lay on her back and wait for it to be over during sex, I was doing any and everything to try to bring some fun out of her but she complained about every other position other than on her back. It is too hard, I cant hold this position, my shoulder hurts (Doggy) Mood killer! I had a girl who wanted to talk overly dirty and bite me all the time, I didn't like that so it was no good for me. I felt like I was being attacked! Mood killer! I had a girl praise the size of my dick saying it is the biggest she has ever seen and then once I got it in she couldn't stop self deprecating vocally that she was a slut and she shouldn't be doing this. Mood killer!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    I think that sometimes two people just are not made for each other

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Re the old saying.."it takes two to tango"..theres nothing worse than either person,male or female..just laying there n grunting n saying ..that was nice dear...how was it for you... after trying to excite the other...its just not meant to happen n the main reason Ive never married....both people can only eat caviar n crayfish for so long before tiring of it...??

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    If she's not into hand or blow jobs then I'm thinking what am I doing here as a living, breathing dildo? Very hard to get excited about that! - Posted from rhpmobile

  • boxestotick

    boxestotick

    9 years ago

    Yep.... She just lay there with no input. Even though the sex is consensual it doesn't feel right. Pull out, pack up and go home. Works both ways ladies. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Had two in a row just because a women might be enjoying that little bit extra does not mean they should lie there like they are in a coma bores the shit out of me so yes women can be a dudd root - Posted from rhpmobile

  • joanne1991

    joanne1991

    9 years ago

    Oh my god I've been there and done that not because I'm lazy or a dud root but because he was good at what he was doing it's not always for any reason but my partner was spectacular in what he did and I was enjoying it immensely

  • makoman22

    makoman22

    9 years ago

    Definitely ,more often it's because of her inaction rather than lack of experience.i have talked to some of these women about it and a common point was they didn't want to give the impression that they were over sexed nymphos.if you spend the time though,it's fun watching them let loose

  • Jus4fun32

    Jus4fun32

    9 years ago

    I hear you..poor choices make it a rush. May the poor choices disappear from. Our lives and may we never wish we were back home in our beds.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Become a dud root if the male wont reciprocate. Selfish prick left me hanging. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • OkeyDoke45

    OkeyDoke45

    9 years ago

    A couple of weeks ago I had the bewildering experience of a woman actively pursuing me on a night out. That in itself is bewildering as it almost never happens, but what was worse was when we got home and down to business. She wanted no foreplay, just took her clothes off and lay back on the bed - her arms ramrod stiff at her sides, her head tilted back with her eyes closed. Legs akimbo. Not to be too crude about it, the only indication that she was actually excited was the wetness between her legs. I really should not have gone through with it. It was terrible, absolutely terrible. You would think that, having pursued me quite aggressively earlier, that she would have shown at least some enthusiasm. What was worse, once it was all done and dusted, she then refused to leave and lay in bed trying to get me going again. I really did not know what the hell was going on. I ended up leaving my own unit and just wandering the streets hoping she would leave (she did). It freaked me out for the rest of the day, totally. To top it all off, she now wants to be my FB. Oh. My. God.

  • Naughtydouble

    Naughtydouble

    9 years ago

    Generally speaking we can all be dud roots INSPIRE THE MIND teach listen and learn we can always improve 😆😆

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Given the situation both men or women can have poor performance for various reasons. But if you are consenting to sexual interactions atleast behave like you want to be there. Was with a couple that pursued me for both hubby & wife but once things got hot & heavy she became ummm well stagnant. Thought perhaps she just wasn't that into me, which is fine, but then when her hubby joined in she still didn't fire up....guess she wasnt into him either.lol - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    I have that problem with my current root. Just boring as bat crap. I can't wait to finish and get onto something else more interesting. A few nights ago, she came in all fired up, stripped down and ready to go. I told her to get a shower and don't bother coming back. Too many lazy, starfish dude roots from her. I don't have the interest in her anymore. Now, let's see what sort of comments I get in reply... :)

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    If you are going to troll at least sort out how old you are..I am glad your friend is getting some dude roots,sounds like that might be a nice change...there ya go,was that what you were looking for? xxFreya

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    If someone has a dud profile I'll never find out if they're a dud root also. I just go "next". Simples.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Yes, yes they can. Generally when they don't let themselves enjoy it.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Of course they can! Enjoyment comes out of sex from just that, enjoyment. Many times even after a lovely date with a mental connection it can seem like sex is clinical, the obligatory ending to the evening. It should be about mutually having fun and adventure; exploring their bodies, kinks and pleasures which takes 2 (or more!) to tango! I've had to fake it from time to time but here on RHP we all share the mutual enjoyment!! :D

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Most people, men and women, are dud roots by my standards. Maybe I have high standards, but that's only respective of YOUR standards. To me, my standards are very normal. Think of it this way: to an AFL player, how good are my footy skills? Pretty bloody pathetic. Sex is very similar in that regards. Some people, who take sex seriously rather than just an excuse to get themselves off, focus on improving their skills to be a far better sexual being. Most of my stories of "duds" are from the first few years of exploration. However, now that I'm very confident in what I'm looking for and what makes me tick, I find that I don't have duds anymore at all. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • MsJonesy

    MsJonesy

    9 years ago

    Quoting 'CaptS' Most people, men and women, are dud roots by my standards. Maybe I have high standards, but that's only respective of YOUR standards. To me, my standards are very normal. Think of it this way: to an AFL player, how good are my footy skills? Pretty bloody pathetic. Sex is very similar in that regards. Some people, who take sex seriously rather than just an excuse to get themselves off, focus on improving their skills to be a far better sexual being. Most of my stories of "duds" are from the first few years of exploration. However, now that I'm very confident in what I'm looking for and what makes me tick, I find that I don't have duds anymore at all. - Posted from rhpmobile Is good on you CaptS....for expressing yourself so eloquently. Doesn't mean I agree with you, just complimenting your writing style. Perhaps I can add that I can lend you a flak jacket..... because I have a feeling you are going to need it. Although I don't know if they are of any help with an implosion.

  • Chillymofo

    Chillymofo

    9 years ago

    on so many levels as already mentioned above.I remember one in particular, where 10mins into it, i asked if everything was ok"I really don't have to do anything except lay here"So i let her just lay there - i went back to the party!

  • Mischeviouslad

    Mischeviouslad

    9 years ago

    Mate.... Im glad you're confident... and in some respects I agree with you. Sex is no different to any other topic in that we're not born with any inherent knowledge or skill. It must be learned. However..... for the most part sexual activity is a 'sport' of two people. Maybe, you should ask them if you were a dud. Its often a case of perspectives.... and connectivity DG

  • nibblemebi

    nibblemebi

    9 years ago

    What if the woman is focusing on letting go and fully relaxing so she can achieve orgasm? A lot of women miss out because they're too busy being the porn star that their partners expect them to be! Obviously it's only one part of the play, but I do "STARFISH" on occasion to get into the zone so I can achieve the best gushing orgasm I can! (From receiving oral mostly but at times I will get lost in the complete bliss that being pounded can bring... I'm far from quiet about it though, so maybe a loud moany starfish? hahaha) The orgasm is 50/50 mind and body stimulation boys.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Quoting 'TongueCramps' Just as easy for the women as the men to be duds this is so true .