FredAndGinger2

FredAndGinger2

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Couples' Corner: new to Couples Dating

September 04 2017

* I stress - this is a conversation for genuine couples seeking couples. Please start your own thread if your response is not related to couples-couples and please be sensitive to those couples new to the scene * We're still at the beginning of this journey. We've been together for decades and deeply in love. We're here to meet similar professional and discreet (look up the meaning - https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/usage/discreet-or-discrete) couples, build a connection, enjoy a friendship and conversation that can't be had with vanilla friends. Sometimes, rarely, the connection is fantastic and it feels completely natural to take the 4-way friendship beyond a social setting. Those times can be very special. We call this Couples Dating. The first few times meeting another couple is nerve-wracking. After nearly two years we are comfortable but also excited to meet a new couple. Some couples we've met have been doing this for years and could help answer our questions and clear up our thoughts. Some couples have been swinging for much longer and were much more adventurous than us, and that's fine. Some couples we've met have been absolutely new. We were that nervous new couple not too long ago and we're only a few steps ahead of being new. And we're completely OK with where we are. It's great to go out for a nice dinner and drinks, have a chat, a laugh, dancing. A beach or country retreat, a hotel room or a dinner at home in front of a fireplace is awesome when you can share that with another like-minded couple (or a few more couples). Sometimes we've hit it off immediately and other times it's taken a few social meets to feel if the connection is there. We occasionally organise our own discreet couples social meets at a quiet bar in Melbourne for 10-15 similar couples that feel the same way. There are not many neutral setting social meets for couples-only so we feel this is a great way to 'dip a toe in' and meet in a very non-threatening setting. So to the couples: how have your early experiences been?

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  • mango69er

    mango69er

    7 years ago

    Gee. Another professional couple. Alot of people dont like that word professional. Just had a thread on that - Posted from rhpmobile

  • P69D69

    P69D69

    7 years ago

    Great post FredAndGinger2 We are new to the scene, by new well been on here over 12mths but have not found a connection. We have met 2 couples, didn't seem to click and nothing eventuated. We have attended two swingers parties and the first one was very full on, guys jumping from one woman to the next, the other party was more relaxing atmosphere but the attraction for any of the attendees wasn't there. We prefer to have a attraction and not be a wham bam thank you. We too are long term married, and are not going to jump in head first, we need to feel comfortable. Would love to be able to attend a quite bar where mutual like minded couples attend, pitty you and what you organise is in Melbourne, wish we could find one in Brisbane.

  • bearstogether

    bearstogether

    7 years ago

    We are new to this scene as well and slowly getting more involved. I will state Mrs won't do hard swap and as such we have been virtually attacked, and abused for this. It is a bit off putting as it seems its mostly male driven and the males aren't happy unless they can fuck someone else. Just my two cents worth - Posted from rhpmobile

  • DynamicCouple36

    DynamicCouple36

    7 years ago

    Nothing wrong with being a professional couple and or wanting to meet other professional couples. Plenty bogans and "tall poppy" haters on here. Fortunately we all have a choice . Different strokes for different folks. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • DynamicCouple36

    DynamicCouple36

    7 years ago

    We were newbies too, when we embarked on this "adventure" in early 2013. We too were nervous before meeting couples or going to a swingers club. It was a nice kind of nervous, butterflies, anticipation of doing something naughty & taboo. We saw it all at the swingers clubs and parties. But we soon outgrew the randomness and shallowness of it all and now prefer smaller, more intimate, private soirees. We prefer to make a connection now. On many levels. And to get to know the other couple. This , for us , means drinks and dinner, articulate intelligent conversations with professional, educated and well travelled people. People that share similar values, desires and preferences to us. People we can relate to and become good friends with. People who understand and respect any boundaries that there may be. We play only if and when it feels right and we all get along well together. This often takes several social get togethes. It's part of the fun. Building on the seduction, sexual tension and excitement. It's important for us, to never compromise. It's not about collecting notches on a bed post. Our best, real life friends, we have met through RHP. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • DynamicCouple36

    DynamicCouple36

    7 years ago

    Yep , on our experience very much male driven. And they (the male of a couple ) can become very pushy in the hunt for "pussy" - we have encountered that at swingers clubs / paid swingers parties. Which is why we now prefer private get togethers with friends. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • DynamicCouple36

    DynamicCouple36

    7 years ago

    On our experience should read in our experience - Posted from rhpmobile

  • Starlet1

    Starlet1

    7 years ago

    We have loved meeting new couples but have found something slightly smaller and intimate than massive formal parties is what we're seeking - your suggestion smaller meets with 10-15 couples is ideal. We like hearing other couples stories and experiences (while at the same time sharing toe-curling experiences 😉) It's an exciting journey that we are all on and we love meeting likeminded couples who are both here for the orgasms, the connections and to explore what makes us tick sexually in our relationships. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    7 years ago

    Because I consider H and I somewhat of a newbies still ... this is my first time posting and I still feel a little nervous about it.... When I first joined on RHP I poured over the forums looking advice to the "Newbies" so I thought maybe a little of our experience may help someone just like us....We have been really fortunate that the few hook ups we have had, have been really successful.... We have spent loads of time chatting between the four of us, we have invested in getting to know each other before meeting in person, we have shared photos and kept the lines of communication open.... There has been lots of fun and flirting, and grown up fun that we were looking for and at times didn't know we were missing.While I can only speak on behalf of myself I knew for me there had to be attraction to both the male and female part of the couple we were looking at meeting up with...Because of the relationship I have with H I knew I didn't have to rush into anything. I recognised that H and I may had different needs personally our objectives for what we desired were the same. This was my journey and I wasn't going to just give it up to just anybody, that said I had to work maybe harder than H to keep and open mind....I have to say that our very first meeting was one of the scariest experiences I have ever had... My personal grooming went from very proud 8/10 to 1000 plus OCD ritual.... I don't regret any of it... I was waxed, plucked, polished and primped... my little black dress was smokin and I wont lie... I looked bloody gorgeous... and the best part of the experience was that I did it all for me, this was my journey ....I went into the meeting hoping to meet a couple of great people but without any expectations... Face to face meetings are so different from chatting behind the keyboard ... Our first couple was a success for I believe a couple of reasons... I knew that they were not newbies and that was important to me, this couple really embraced us and really respected us as Newbies... I actually really felt for them as they knew that meeting us and knowing we were newbies was a huge responsibility and that they potentially set the tone for other meeting with other couples...I am really grateful to this couple. I wont lie I drank a little too much champagne before I left to meet them. I mean I was scared and rattled on so many levels... in my head I pulled out like a billion times and questioned myself why I was putting myself thru this.... IT WAS SO WORTH IT!!!!For us because we have a sense of the direction we want our journey to take ...we are always re establishing the boundaries. What might work for one couple may not work for another, staying open to change is always helpful...Thanks for letting me share :)Annie

  • RHP

    RHP User

    7 years ago

    though I do try 😉

  • totally_normal

    totally_normal

    7 years ago

    We are dipping our toes back in the waters after a break of more than 5 years. That was our old handle back in our previous reincarnation. We had some halariously disasterous experiences and we have been guilty of boring couples with these stories for hours ... we csnt help ourselves but it doesnt always lend itself to getting laid!! We have also had some spontaneously erotic experiences which don't translate as well into stories but are what draws us back I into the community We are now in a different city and country. We are older and have more life experience. Things have changed yet stay the same. As someone who has done on line dating as a single and a couple I truly beleive that no pressure no expectation first meetings as soon as you can arrange them is the way to go. People all have different ideas and expectations and asking for this type of meeting allows you to put your card's on the table and identify if there is an attraction. The law of averages says the more people you meet the more likely you are to meet people you get on with. The longer you message the bigger your expectation the more likely it is not going to be met. Being part of a couple means you never have to go home alone 😉 and no matter how the night goes you have someone talk it over with. If conversation gets sexy you may even go home and do more than just talk!! Dating and having relationships with other couples is not just about potentially shagging someone new. It is about sharing the experience with your partner and exploring new experiences with other broad minded couples. I am looking forward to meeting new couples and hopefully having more fun activity stories than horror stories. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • FredAndGinger2

    FredAndGinger2

    7 years ago

    Quoting 'HarrynAnnie' my little black dress was smokin and I wont lie... I looked bloody gorgeous... and the best part of the experience was that I did it all for me, this was my journey .... Thanks for sharing your experience Annie & Harry. The excitement and anticipation.. the escape from the daily grind.. having something great to get dressed for... making new friends.. having conversations you couldn't possibly have with your normal friends.. .. and to be doing this with your partner does make it very special. Great to hear from you! Hope to chat to you at a meet-up sometime!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    7 years ago

    We are open to finding a couple for this exact description you stated in your OP. The hard things seems to be finding a couple where we are both attracted to our potential matches - we have been approached a number of times when out on a Fri/Sat night and the main trouble seems to be finding a couple where we both feel are feeling that initial attraction. Is this something that is commonly experienced when looking for or are at least open to meeting a couple?

  • FredAndGinger2

    FredAndGinger2

    7 years ago

    @tallandsmall yes that's exactly how we feel too. It's difficult enough to get 2 person attraction! That's why we have found going to meet-ups works well. It's just a social chat and you get to meet a bunch of couples at the same time. Message me direct if yiu want to come along to a meet this weekend 9 Sep - Posted from rhpmobile

  • Paradisepair

    Paradisepair

    7 years ago

    But back when we started out we were much more proactive, I guess once we started to understand the dynamics of couples dating we decided we liked social opportunities more, although a great date is just that. Starting out we were still running the gamut of emotions, and were less skilled at reading the warning signs. We're pretty good these days about being able to see when a couple have their own issues and extracting ourselves from being caught in the middle. Your gatherings sound great.

  • DynamicCouple36

    DynamicCouple36

    7 years ago

    We were thinking about the whole debate (and furore) on another thread about the use of the words " we are a professional couple, seeking other professional couples " and how the use of the words "professional" caused such an angry and aggressive reaction from some people. When we say that we are seeking a professional couple, we are looking for a couple with the following attributes ( and perhaps professional is the wrong word to have used ?) : Classy, educated, sophisticated, well travelled, well versed, well groomed, intellectual and in good shape mentally & physically, people who can engage in an intelligent conversation with us. People who have discerning taste and high standards and who strive for excellence in everything that they do. These are the attributes that would attract us to another couple and we have grouped them all under the "professional" umbrella as it were. Again, it is just our preference ( and personal taste ) as to what attracts & stimulates us. Other people may be looking for different attributes with regards the type, and calibre of people that they prefer to associate with. There is no right or no wrong here. It's simply a matter of personal choice. And of course we are all entitled to have our own personal choice. That said, it's very hard to find a couple / situation where all 4 parties are attracted to one another at face value / first get together. Which is why we like to get to know them over several get togethers. Beauty is more than skin deep, and we have found that as we get to know people well, the attraction tends to grow, and develop, in a positive manner & direction. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • relaxedcouple

    relaxedcouple

    7 years ago

    O and I have been in this lifestyle for nearly a year but are still newbies. Only now one year in do we feel like we are starting to make connections. We have meet some really nice people, the connection has not always been there straight off the bat. We have been to large swinger events, and some or the regular smaller ones, but we have discovered that we really prefer to get to know people over a couple of meetings before we feel comfortable enough to play and enjoy ourselves. Some of the parties out there are really gear towards playing straight away. We still attend them though as it is much better meeting people in person than trying to judge them from a few profiles pics. It would be really awesome to to know of these privately organised get togethers or if there were particular bars around the city that you knew there was a good chance of running into fellow lifestylers, even if they were not couples you might play with or them with you conversation with likeminded people would be great. A - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    7 years ago

    Dynamic couple we love you're summery of the attributes of a professional couple. Agreed possibly not the best word... yet says so much. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • mango69er

    mango69er

    7 years ago

    Yes. As the rest of us who are not so called professionals . Dont have any of those . What a load of rubbish. Get off your high horse. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • Starlet1

    Starlet1

    7 years ago

    ...t concept of couples dating. We've made some fantastic friends in this world that have spilled over into our "real lives". We have gym friends, footy friends, work friends and now play friends 😉🤤🙂 - Posted from rhpmobile

  • sweetnsensual

    sweetnsensual

    7 years ago

    We have found a few great couples we have a connection to and several single girls Love catching up with them for dinner drinks and fun and often love chatting normally during the week We are pretty easy going I guess

  • FredAndGinger2

    FredAndGinger2

    7 years ago

    Quoting 'Nalaaivilo' ..we have discovered that we really prefer to get to know people over a couple of meetings before we feel comfortable enough to play and enjoy ourselves. Some of the parties out there are really gear towards playing straight away. Our experience has been the same as yours. Maybe we aren't real swingers, we're "swinger-curious"

  • P69D69

    P69D69

    7 years ago

    If thats the definition of professional, then good luck. Beware of the professionals. I don't even think Jesus could or would meet those standards, lol And I'm certain yourselves do not fill all those stated attributes. I believe professional is, people who can conduct themselves in a manner that is polite, respectful & considerate, dresses appropriately for the occassion and present clean in good hygiene. Does not require people who are Oxford University Graduates that wear Rolex watches, Armani suits, Calvin Klien underwear, Harry Winston Dimond butplug etc.

  • DynamicCouple36

    DynamicCouple36

    7 years ago

    We never said we were oxford graduates nor that we possessed all the atttibutes we listed. What we did however say is that they are the type of atttibutes we look for, in another couple, if we are going to find them attractive. It's our taste & preferences after all. We are all entitled to our preferences . We just don't enjoy thick skinned, unruly bogan types. Again our choice. Why compromise ? - Posted from rhpmobile

  • DynamicCouple36

    DynamicCouple36

    7 years ago

    We don't have templates portions / extracts within our profile wording. Lol - Posted from rhpmobile

  • P69D69

    P69D69

    7 years ago

    Yes agree we all have our attractions and dislikes. We can't stand rich stuck up rude ignorant drug dealers just as much as bogans who are drunken drug addicts with bad hygiene and no goal in life. Reason for our comment was just how you presented your comment, of which was open to many interpretations and appeared that your definition of professional could be perceived as extreme as per what we stated. And just maybe your interpretation really does not fit the term professional as you state yourself. Its all opinions and dare we say there are many interpretations. Apologies if we sounded like we were attacking your right of opinion. You are intitled to it as much as everyone has the right to criticize it. You make the statement public, then you have to be prepired for debate. Just remember, you can't read a book from its cover.

  • FredAndGinger2

    FredAndGinger2

    7 years ago

    Quoting 'PKDK69'your definition of professional could be perceived as extreme as per what we stated. And just maybe your interpretation really does not fit the term professional as you state yourself. Its all opinions and dare we say there are many interpretations. Apologies if we sounded like we were attacking your right of opinion. You are intitled to it as much as everyone has the right to criticize it. PKDK69 I feel you may have misinterpreted DC's comments. * Their definition was a replacement to describe their own preferences. In no way did they suggest this defines what a professional is * Everybody has a right to their own preferences. We can debate a statement such as a generalisation or an attack on somebody else but nobody has the right to criticise another person's (or couples) personal preferences. Where will that lead the discussion to? A: Somewhere where nobody wins and everybody is chastised. We've met some really great people and have had some really great experiences. Some people we consider to be very good friends now. The absolute highlight of our time here was an RHP event titled "Wine, Dine and Sixty-Nine Wine Tour". We met 10 other couples and we all stayed in a large ski chalet near Bright. We had great times and made great friends over food, wine, travelling and talk. Oh plus the Saturday night was epic and nervous Ginger and nervous I felt completely at ease and had the time of our life. That's what I'm talking about!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    7 years ago

    These poor bogans!!! LOL

  • happiestcpl

    happiestcpl

    7 years ago

    We've been very lucky and met some fantastic people whom we could also share some social fun with. Sex has always been good, but it was everything else that kept us in the scene (i.e getting dressed, the excitement of having a secret circle friends, freedom of conversation about things you'd never be able to talk with your 'normal' circle friends, knowing that you are exploring a couple to a degree that even their closest friends haven't, the convos with your partner after the meets etc). I think this thing is very healthy in many ways if done in the right way ( by 'right' we mean the way that would satisfy you - you find what's right for you after a brief trial-error period but after you frame it, it is absolutely amazing)

  • Starlet1

    Starlet1

    7 years ago

    We could not agree more. Has anyone else watched the Playboy TV series Swing? We found it a great resource for what 'normal' couples dating could be (albeit in a playboy mansion surrounded by sex games 😜😘) Our first concern getting into this lifestyle was what everyone else would be like - perverted droolers or respectable solid couples with a passion for hot fun sex. Fortunately we've met so many couples in the later category and have had an amazing time with them. Now we just need to befriend a couple with a playboy mansion and we're set 😝 - Posted from rhpmobile

  • sweetnsensual

    sweetnsensual

    7 years ago

    We don't have a mansion but a rooftop penthouse with city views!

  • Starlet1

    Starlet1

    7 years ago

    Just need to move to Sydney and we'll be bffs 😝 - Posted from rhpmobile