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Drug and disease free

December 04 2016

I see this caveat a lot in profiles, however it's a pretty broad term and it can mean different things to different people. Drugs - is it the act of the drug use itself or the effects of the drugs, or both? Is it just illegal drugs (bearing in mind that legal drugs including alcohol can cause just as many if not more issues)? What about prescription drugs that some people need to take for health conditions, some of which can have fairly serious physical and / or psychological side effects? Disease - are they referring just to STIs or to other diseases as well? Are they talking about just those diseases that can't be cured as such? What about mental disease/ illness? What does the term mean to you? Particularly interested to hear from people who do use the term in their profile.

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  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    so.. I am going to fire it up then sit back and see what happens here ..

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    ...it sounds like a request, that's all. Like "I prefer blonde's." And I assume they're talking about recreational drugs and STI's. But better said than left unsaid.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    For me Drug free means not using recreational drugs. Disease free is STI free.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    To my way of thinking it's "communicable/contagious" diseases - which also rules out the clinically stupid, because prolonged close contact with that stuff definitely makes me feel bleh As for "drugs" - I really don't care unless they're getting fucked up around me and it's antisocial. When I think "drugs I don't want to be around" it's more for the disease risk (if I think of intravenous users) or the whole Big Lurch style "rip your chest open and devour your heart" on PCP. (Though thinking objectively, it is really probably the stereotype of the injecting junkie, or the incredibly dopey/messed up/paranoid jittery/etc person who fried their brain that I don't want to be around - the stereotype isn't "high functioning neurosurgeon who overdoses one too many hookers to keep it quiet" - hell, that guy knows how to party hard) I've got nothing against someone who likes to pop or snort something so long as they're a pleasant person to be around while on whatever they took - at least someone on E just wants to tell me how much they love everything, they don't stink like wine/beer. I wouldn't want to be around a heavy pot smoker because I don't like breathing smoke.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    Just snorted my coffee reading your comment does that count? :p I assume when people say they drug free or 'only drug free guys' on their profile, they are referring to illicit drugs. I wonder how many have thought about abusers of prescription meds like narcotics or even over the counter codeine? I take Ritalin which is a Methylphenidate aka stimulant. Does that mean I'm not drug free to people? I take it for ADHD and it's prescribed to me. Does that make it acceptable to the 'drug free' fans, I would I be viewed by some along the same lines as a speed user? Abuse of drugs used intravenously is something that brings thoughts of a higher risk on contagion. But I'm ok with people who aren't completely 'drug free' as long as it doesn't dampen my experience with them. Maybe save your Coke snorting until after our session 😉 Diseases - I assume refers to STI's. I do wonder whether people who have made those statements on their profile have regular checks - not just swabs but full bloods, and understand the incubation period of each disease. Along with the real facts such as HIV usually takes up to three months to show in testing from exposure to the virus and may take up to six. Does this mean they have not had any sexual contact with another person for six months prior to making the statement to add credit to their claim? I also wonder whether they ask anyone they kiss or share a drink with (including Phil at the office Christmas party) whether they have ever suffered with cold sore before making contact with their lips? I'm interested to see where this thread goes......

  • Missb4u

    Missb4u

    8 years ago

    In people's profiles I am making an assumption that they are referring to STI and recreational drugs. I also make the assumption that they mean free of these things at the time of meeting them. So I don't take it as being never had an STI or never having done drugs. I will be interested to see other people's responses though.

  • DynamicCouple36

    DynamicCouple36

    8 years ago

    Drug free, for us , means illicit drugs. However any addictive drugs would apply in our opinion. What we don't want, is to come into close contact with a person that might be addicted to drugs (be it illicit, prescription or whatever) as there are associated risks, behavioural etc with drug abuse/addiction. They do alter ones state of mind and we would prefer to avoid contact with such types. Disease free, for us, means all communicable,infectious & contagious diseases. STI's /STD's fit into the above category. What we don't want is to come into close contact with a person who may be infected, which would then put us at risk of being infected. We take our health and well being seriously. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    Well I have read that herpies1 can be transmitted from mouth to genitals during oral, so its not a matter of coffee cup cold sores. Thats why herpies1 are lumped into the same catagorie as an STI, because it can be transmitted through sexual contact. Plus the fact that they can be small blisters inside the mouth, not a large cold sore on the outter lip.and still transmitted after they arent seen any more. So should ppl get a choice in deciding for themselves? I would personally like to be given the choice of deciding whether I want to kiss someone or let them go down on me. My friend went to thailand and fucked a woman. Started getting a recuring eye infection. Ended up it was herpies2. Probably rubbed his eye during sex. Thats just what he assumes is how he caught it. On the flip side, I have read that ppl can have a long term sexual relationship with a person with Herpies and never contract it. I dont have the disclaimer on my profile. I just figure its really russian roulette. Ppl will down grade some things to suit themselves. So my view on having the the disclaimer is yes that is what I want too. But its as useless as having the Sydney University disclaimer on your profile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    I use the disease free reference meaning anything communicable and particularly STIs.I dont have any, have never had any, and dont want any. While I realise putting it in is kind of superfluous, I feel it gives people an idea of who I am and what I want, they can then take that as they wish.Mental illness is not included in this in my opinion....whats the point, as it would apply to everyone

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    Quoting 'Koolgrey' ...it sounds like a request, that's all. Like "I prefer blonde's." And I assume they're talking about recreational drugs and STI's. But better said than left unsaid. I don't have a problem with people stating it, and I'm aware that it's a request. I'm just interested in how people define it because it can be interpreted in different ways. Even if it's just STIs, there are many STIs that are perfectly treatable so I'm wondering how far people take that request. Even if it's just recreational drugs, do they also mean someone who takes a little something every now and then, or just hardcore IV users. So, I think it's a valid and interested topic.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    That leads me to think of another question, which is why is there such huge stigma and shame around STIs compared to other communicable diseases, even among people who are generally more open minded about sex and its associated consequences. I'd also be very interested to understand more about the reasons behind that, but that's another topic.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    Does recreational also mean illegal? What about legal substances like alcohol? There are a lot of people who have an alcohol addiction or problems controlling their drinking, a lot more than those who have problems with illegal substances. (Yes, I'm aware that I'm being picky / pedantic but I'm doing it on purpose to stimulate some debate )

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    The Australian alcohol and drug foundations uses the following definitions to describe drug use: These are some of the different categories of drug use. Experimental use: a person tries a drug once or twice out of curiosity. Recreational use: a person chooses to use a drug for enjoyment, particularly to enhance a mood or social occasion. Situational use: a drug is used to cope with the demands of particular situations. Intensive use or 'bingeing': a person consumes a heavy amount of drugs over a short period of time, and/or uses continuously over a number of days or weeks. Dependent use: a person becomes dependent on a drug after prolonged or heavy use over time. They feel a need to take the drug consistently in order to feel normal or to avoid uncomfortable withdrawal symptoms. Tha main categories listed are depressants, stimulants and hallucinogens. Caffeine is listed as a stimulant and alcohol a depressant. The list of drugs people abuse is huge and includes Apspirin, ibuprofen and inhalants such as Nitrous oxide, glue, liquid paper and felt tip pens. So all of you sharpie sniffers - watch out 😉

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    I was an intensive drug user last weekend in Sydney when I binged on alcohol (which is a rarity for me)

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    I am a cynic about many things I often wonder if in fact the reverse is true.How many people read profiles and believe every word ...and really as far as ""disease " goes,you are only as certain as your last test. Q

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    ...to add to your musings around Herpes...carriers fall into two 'risk of spreading' types...symptomatic and asymptomatic....symptomatic are only contagious when a lesion/blister is present (no risk of spreading when not having an outbreak)...asymptomatic can spread at any time, irrespective of outbreak/blister in evidence....the process is called shedding; it's not the liquid so much as cells that are invisible to the eye....as a side-bar to your in-mouth but not visible herpes blisters, in my youth a had the good fortune to contract genital warts from a girl whose colony was internal...my cock couldn't feel them but my fingers did and a very embarrassed admission followed...she gave me my very own resident crop and getting the little buggers burned off my cock was very unpleasant...we are talking 35+ years ago when medicine was a more primitive art...took about 3 repeats to get the lot.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    At first, I thought this topic was clear cut. But I do agree with @S_OntheLoose, it's the anti-socialness. I don't put drug/disease free on my profile because I have other things I need to get to lol. I'd rather ask in person and actually feel whether they are lying through their teeth about it. Go with your gut. If they seem shady, then say no. Drugs... there is no telling what drugs will do to someone because of the inconsistencies in the drugs. Unregulated and illicit drugs can be dangerous. 10 yrs ago I try E, and I was like a happy drunk all night but it's more difficult for your body to recover because your body over exerts itself. I'll just stick to alcohol if I really need it. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    Most dating sites have the option to tick in your profile drinker or smoker.so that covers the legal drugs. But that also comes down to how truthful someone wishes to be, many smokers have non smoking. Reason being... They can throw their net further. Would be the same with the nondisclosure of sti or saying they use protection, then they refuse, or a heavy drinker who ticks the "light drinker" box.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    Quoting 'Ride2nite'10 yrs ago I try E, and I was like a happy drunk all night but it's more difficult for your body to recover because your body over exerts itself. I'll just stick to alcohol if I really need it. interesting, I felt the opposite. I've only tried it a couple of times (hypothetically, in Second Life, allegedly) but I'd prefer that to booze. It was cheaper, and a much "cleaner" feeling afterwards, none of the worn out feeling the next day. I don't recall much jaw clenching/tooth grinding of "my friends" while taking it, so that could lend itself to the cleaner feeling after I feel like a bag of E amongst RHP folks could be a verrrrrry bad bad thing, you might as well just label the bag 'orgy'.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    Quoting 'Willow_1' Most dating sites have the option to tick in your profile drinker or smoker.so that covers the legal drugs. I guess I'm mainly highlighting that both the terms 'disease' and 'drug' aren't really as straightforward as they might initially seem...although I'm one of those annoying people that can find something complicated in just about anything

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    I guess that's the difference. You don't know exactly what you're taking (unless you've cooked it or grown it yourself) and the unpredictability scares people, along with the judgment of type of person who would risk it. It's not like someone who snorted Coke six months ago is going to pass it onto some they get sexually active with. It's the 'type' of person who engages in risk taking behaviour people are usually judging. Again it would be nice to hear from more who have it on their profiles. Is popping an E considered along the same lines and the accountant who needs 12 panaedine to get through his day? What about people who spray a bit Brauer's calming relief spray under their tongues a few times a day? Is it that people who use illicit drugs are more likely to be less cautious with protection, a worry about instability, a moral issue, or something else? LD - I get it and love that you've made a thread that gets people thinking.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    ...i see that phrase about "no drugs", i assume they're referring to recreational use of drugs, but not necessarily illegal ones. I also assume they're referring to those who are abusing drugs....using them outside of their prescribed boundaries. I make a few assumptions..

  • sweetgem

    sweetgem

    8 years ago

    I don't use that term in my profile, nor on regular basis in conversations, or so lightly when I need to use the term, because I don't believe that many people would be honest and tell me the truth of what they have/carry. In a way, it's sort of like believing in people who tell me that they are single, but how do I know for real in the early day? 🤔 What the term means to me, at the first glance of men's profiles, is people are saying that they don't use illegal drugs such as, cocane, ice, etc. for the "drugs" part, and that they don't carry any STIs nor HIV AIDS in the "diseases" part. That's how I interpret the term D&D free. But that's just my interpretation, not anyone else's :) - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    Anyone got a whizz fizz?? Fuck that shits awesome man :p - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    Do you snort it? So is drinking 2 litres of red cordial straight.....someone once told me 😉

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    There is a correlation between the absence of pubic hair and STI's.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    The truth is not one person seeking a root is gong to say I have an std andi take drugs. Hardly any guys turn up with a Condom and I would like a dollar for every guy that has tried to stick his dick in with the words it fine I am safe. Your only as good as your results if you have not had sex for over three months due to incubation times. All a test does is confirme your worst fears or make you go whew! People lick and suck and finger and probe and unless your in a hazmat suit in this game you play Russian roulette with your pink bits. People lie alllllll the time. A lot if men can't stay hard with a condom. Women here do gang bangs without them. Drugs... I had someone who I thought was a friend steal painkillers that I had after an operation. Smokes are a drug, booze is a drug. You expect by putting that as a condition to meet that your going to get honesty? If do get off this sight , your naive and need a wake up call. It's an adult, get your end away with anyone site. Don't piss into the wind. Or whistle in the dark. Use protection all the time but it may not always keep you std free. People with HIV are on this site and would not tell you. Why would they? They would never get laid if they told the truth. The woman in the tryst. - Posted from rhpmobile