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Educate Me :-)
August 29 2014
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Tall74nHard9
10 years ago
To my mind, education is a life-long thing. You start the minute you are born, and if you actually think about it and realize it, you learn 'til the day you die (well, hopefully most of us do ). It just is a never-ending process, and it involves all facets of life. You learn at school, you learn at a tertiary institution, you learn in all the different vocations you may try, and you learn life's lessons as you travel along the way. 'Formal' education is but one of the many ways we hopefully get educated in our journey of life, but as most of us know or will come to realize, there is just soooo much more to try and fit into it in the small amount of time we are all allocated here. Tall
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RHP User
10 years ago
I think these 2 things can be quite seperate I have a Bachelor Degree and without it I couldn't have the career I have, I graduated 16 years ago but have not stopped learning both in my work environment and personally. People put a high emphasis on "Education" but many successful people have not had extended formal education - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
10 years ago
I absolutely agree and it fits in here. But, I was more wondering if people got value out of their formal education, or if they rose above a lack of it, using those life lessons you mention, to excel anyway. Maybe like me, all that formal learning has been much of a muchness mixed in with life experiences.
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RHP User
10 years ago
I did okay at school, but was never an exceptional student. I've since discovered that I only really learn by being very interested in something, or by actually doing it, not being lectured about it. I did spend my teenage years working very hard on my own creative pursuits, outside school, which I knew from about 14 was what I wanted to spend my life doing. There was only one uni course I was interested in going on to do, and I got into it based on my extra curricular stuff, not my HSC. I got a BA at the end of that, but have never had to mention it to get a job in my field. I've successfully worked in my chosen area since graduating, and though I still have a lot of things I want to do that I haven't done, I've been pretty lucky in this regard. So my education has curtailed with my life nicely, but as another component of it, not really as a necessary accelerant of it. - Posted from rhpmobile
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madotara69
10 years ago
I needed to teach myself how too surf, ha ha, should have been at school, so they reckon. Then I fell in love Then my drum teacher told me too practice the most mundane exercises and explained that I was training my nerves too listen too my brain. When I paint, I disappear and it paints it's self. I learnt how to write from these forums and now that I can it has got so boring. Much liked it when no one could understand anything I wrote on this type writer. I have the intellectual capacity of a toasted crumpet and get away with bullshit mostly. But I excel in the love bit because it is easy. Well Tara is easy too love. Mado Mado Tara xx
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RHP User
10 years ago
I definitely got value out of my formal education I saw my degree when I was in grade 11 and decided that's what I wanted to do, my course intake was 25 students per year, it's a quite specialised field and not a lot of jobs out there. I love my job, (even on public holidays like today lol) it's different every day and I find it interesting :) - Posted from rhpmobile
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Violetincredible
10 years ago
I have a phd because people have never taken what I have to say and my opinions seriously. This way finally I have a voice in my field- so yes my formal education has definitely been important for me. Xxviolet
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OPNmarriagecpl
10 years ago
There was always such a great importance attached to education whilst we were growing up. We both attending private school for 12 years, graduated well. Both went off to University, hubby realising 2 years in that it wasn't for him do he went and started an electrical apprenticeship. I stated and completed my Bachelor degree and graduated with honours. When we moved overseas and I had my first child, started masters studies and completed. Now (7 years later) starting my second Masters in a slightly different area. Have always enjoyed studying and very proud of both our achievements. Hubby has found great success despite not having completed uni straight out of high school. He has found a very niche area and is currently completing a masters to assist him to further his successes. So win win for two different approaches to a career and learning. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
10 years ago
I'm doing my second degree now and it's a very different experience compared to the first time I went to uni. The first time I was straight out of high school, I had no life experience, I was very results-oriented and thought getting a less than very high mark was a disaster, I was in a serious relationship, and partly because of that relationship and some other reasons I didn't want to do what many of my peers were doing and move to a capital city for a more 'prestigious' course even though I had received an OP1 and could have got into just about anything. At that time the range of courses available at the uni up here were a lot more limited and I chose something that yeah I was interested in, but I just didn't have the life skills to make a very informed decision outside of that. I did finish with honours and even lined up a PhD, but it wasn't long before I realised another 3 years of research wasn't appealing and I just wanted some money, so I took the first full time job (reception and admin stuff) that came along. Long story short, I never worked in that first field I studied in (apart from some casual and part time stuff during the degree). Yes, the degree did help me in getting jobs anyway because there are more general skills you also get from a tertiary education, but after a few years I realised that for a few reasons it wasn't an area I wanted a career in. It's much different for me being at uni now, some good different and some not so good. I hate being poor again but I realised that if I didn't study something else I would be stuck in jobs I hated for the rest of my life. I'm studying a completely different area to the first time around and it's amazing how a few years life experience changes your perspective on so many things and enhances your critical thinking and problem solving abilities, which lecturers can try to teach but I think are things you really don't develop well as skills until you get into the 'real world' where things are almost never totally neat and tidy. So, for me the formal and informal education compliment each other in a big way and there have been important roles for both in my life.
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RHP User
10 years ago
I'm sufficiently educated. I probably need a further qualification to properly establish myself in a new field, but I'm not the most disciplined person so I'm avoiding it. I have strong critical thinking and problem-solving skills, which have defined my career. These have always come pretty natural to me but my education definitely refined and improved them. I have pretty good writing skills too, somewhat developed through Uni essay writing but mostly developed through business writing. I was the first person in my very large extended family to attend Uni. I'm so thankful for the sacrifices my Mum made, that allowed me to go. The most important education I've ever had is world travel. 25 years and dozens and dozens of countries later and I still crave the chance to learn about me, the planet and humanity through travel. There's a huge difference between intellect and education. I'm strongly attracted to men with huge intellects. I'm not fussed about their education level. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
10 years ago
I, as per millions of other uni qualified career folk, are no better, smarter,worthie or more successfulr than those without qualifications I judge a persons worth by their intrinsic qualities: honesty, kindness, forgiveness, genuiness of personality. - Posted from rhpmobile
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madotara69
10 years ago
Perhaps you should ask the left side of your brain these questions, become passionately curious, rather than knowing the know. Don't expect an sensible answer though. Just get lost in the question.
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Missb4u
10 years ago
My education continues everyday. I completed high school but years 11 and 12 were social events and schoolwork, homework and study didn't enter into my thoughts at the time. It was a time to party hard. I haven't done any formal study since. Education does not equate to intelligence though in my opinion. My sex education is sadly lacking hence being on rhp.
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Violetincredible
10 years ago
I think exploring your artistic side is the most important thing you could do. To me life is about creation, expression and exploration- any art form allows you to learn so much about yourself and who you are in that form. My dance has saved me so much money in therapy :/ Xxviolet
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RHP User
10 years ago
I have qualifications however those qualifications have not helped me in my artistic endeavours. Probably my school English has had the most impact as I use it in my writing. As for my singing, I've never had voice training and was warned off it by an Irish singer who said training spoils the natural voice and you should only get training if you want to sing opera. I started doodling when I had Ross River virus and my art has developed from there. I was hopeless at art when in high school and would never have imagined getting the reactions to my art that I do. I did do an art as therapy course and the woman gave us some pointers on construction that I've used when I was about 40. If you want to develop your creativity, just go for it Peachy. If you want to do a creative writing course or life drawing course, do it through adult ed so you don't have to pay the big bucks formal education costs. As for my qualifications, they helped my career, not my creativity and right now I make more from my creativity than I do from my qualifications. At my age, despite qualifications, its hard to get a job.
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RHP User
10 years ago
So many ways to look at my question/s. And that was the point as everyone's posts have made clear. . I enjoy hearing what everyone has to say, thank you all. The different takes and opinions. Which is why I ask questions. I'm getting to know you all better. And myself too. :-D
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Hottie1
10 years ago
I have studied and have my BA, dip Ed and my Masters. I have a strong work ethic, am dedicated, passionate and compassionate - these are my defining qualities though are not related to formal education. I was the only one in our families to have studied at university and did it because ' I was expected to fail and wouldn't need it to produce babies and be a good wife' ( world according to my father). My skills come from my experiences and I learn in daily basis 😊 I am married to the most highly intelligent, understanding, worldly, passionate and most generous man I know, he is my beautiful 'tradie'. He has this enormous capacity as a human being and his skill set wasn't learnt through study (tertiary). I think life and age help us learn things. Made I agree, a great love can teach us many things as well 😍 Mary xx
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Hottie1
10 years ago
Should have read Mado not made..... Xx
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Tall74nHard9
10 years ago
And that's the benefit also of having a few years up our sleeves - we can listen and understand to various opinions, generally without bias, for a better understanding of life as it applies to ourselves as well as others. Thanks for your 'likes'. Tall
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RHP User
10 years ago
The real lessons start after graduation.
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RHP User
10 years ago
I've got a degree and it definitely helped me get into my current job. It's not the job I envisaged myself doing when I started my degree, but I enjoy it and will probably be doing it until I retire (in 20 years or so). I think that there is too much pressure on teenagers to go to university these days, it isn't for everyone and some of the degrees you can get these days a laughable. Experience counts far more in many fields and as many people have said here, they've got on fine in life without a degree. I still think it was the right path for me but there is no pressure on my daughter to follow in my footsteps.
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