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Gone girl
October 21 2014
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MsJonesy
10 years ago
Are you serious? You think that is an acceptable way to describe people? Mods... you have completely failed in your duties. You have been all over the place closing threads and deleting comments left right and centre, yet you feel that this forum, which describes people as "completely fucking nuts" and "a crazy person" is acceptable. Really?
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RHP User
10 years ago
Almost every second profile reads they want someone who is normal or isn't crazy. There must be a lot out there, just not sure what you consider crazy. I have never met anyone I would consider crazy. I have certainly met people who have been depressed, moody, tired, hormonal, overstimulated but I wouldn't call them crazy. I have been called crazy in a good way and probably a bad way too (amongst other things) and that is cool, just don't call me normal!
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RHP User
10 years ago
There have been similar threads, but worded more subtly. I think one was titled Stranger Danger. But about the same thing, recognising the signs that someone is not going to behave in an acceptable manner so to say. I just think its a subject that we should be aware of, recognising the signs and making sure we distance ourselves from someone who could make trouble for us. Maybe the choice of words could have been better, but when we have questions such as "Whats the biggest thing youve shoved up your arse" and "Is my child kinky" then we can hardly be outraged on the forums? As I said before, if something offends me personally, I just dont post an answer.
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RHP User
10 years ago
Have any of you seen the movie?
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RHP User
10 years ago
The character is a psychopath. Educate yourself - and try practicing a bit of compassion. Yes psychopaths can commit awful acts. Their brain function is completely different from that of a non-psycopath. That means they're not 'nuts', they're simply different. Different in the same way that people have different abilities (and disabilities), different skin colours, different genetic conditions etc. Different as in, out of their control. Calling people with mental health issues 'nuts' is offensive. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'Simplelife123' Have any of you seen the movie? I haven't but I would like to, where can I see it?
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RHP User
10 years ago
There's a difference between something that's personally offensive and something that's publicly offensive. Labeling people with mental health issues as crazy had been understood to be publicly offensive for a very long time. Lots of times people say 'it was just a joke' or 'I didn't mean it that way'. However not intending something (eg to be offensive to people with mental health issues) doesn't make it OK, it just makes it careless. In a world full of discrimination and victimization, we all have a responsibility to deliberately intend NOT to be offensive. As others have said, there's value in talking about experiences, sharing lessons and learning how to see signs of different things that might be at play in a relationship. But a forum dedicated to stories of 'crazies' is akin to a forum discussing 'niggers', 'retards', 'fags' and so on. It's not on. Choose your words people. And your intention. After all, no-one else is responsible for the messages you put out into the world. And if you choose to put ugly or careless messages out there, don't act surprised when people let you know what they think about that ugliness. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
10 years ago
Once you see it you will Know what I'm talking about
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'Simplelife123' Once you see it you will Know what I'm talking about At the cinema? I will google it!
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RHP User
10 years ago
it is at the cinema. Anyone want a date?
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RHP User
10 years ago
a little nuts sometimes according to some who dont care to get to know me and make gross assumptions and judgments.
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RHP User
10 years ago
I went on my own sad as it sounded, had popcorn to myself though
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RHP User
10 years ago
not something to wish for .........a psychopath.........
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RHP User
10 years ago
In reference to this movie, and to other movies, like play Misty for Me, or the one with Glen Close the boil the bunny moments. I think that movie was based on an actual event as well, I have not seen it yet so do not spoil it for us. I think people are nuts. We all say that at times, what a nut job, or he she is as crazy as a loon. this does not men that we go around putting people with mental health issues down. I think most of us have suffered from mental health issues at least once or twice in our lives. what he is saying is about people that damage other people, that do things that society would say is not a norm. Like putting paint stripper over a x lovers car. Or stalking people, we should say that behavior is nuts etc. I have met a few in my time on this earth and one or two scared the shit out of me. Including one that came into my office said he would shot me and everyone in it....I don't know about you guys but I kinda thought he might be a bit nuts. I really do not want RHP forums to be an exchange of cooking tips to tell the truth. Its bad enough out there in norm land that we have to tip toe around every issue , god forbid it happens in as something as liberal as a sex site.
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RHP User
10 years ago
Sorry but I have to agree with Kissk. The ABC, through all of its various media, has been promoting public awareness of mental health over the last week. And then we see the inflammatory descriptions above which seek to demonise people with mental health problems, and invites us to hold them up for ridicule. It is just wrong. This is completely different from care and safety, or topics of dubious morality. This is an invitation to engage in ostracising people because of their illnesses. As if their irrational behaviour is their fault rather than the product of a medical condition over which they have no control and which blights their life much more than the people they come in contact with.
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RHP User
10 years ago
Well i did meet one crazy boy for 24 hours , we meet and we had great time together...and never did i saw him mental for a second, till i had to say good bye and asked him to leave coz i have other things to do , and so he kissed me good bye,and left ...an hour later he sent me txt and asked me if i would like to see him again and i said "yes when i have time " and he for some reason got mad at me, he didnt like the sounding of my replied perhaps or maybe he was expecting something else something more with my wording ,i dont know ... until now still puzzled by it ( yet genuinly, i was actually planning to see him again ) ..but things went bit weird and aggressive he started sending me crazy and even threatning txts for the next 2 weeks , wtf !...and i got angry my self but then realized no point to retaliate and just went quiet never answered his txts again , and gradually he dissapeared but few months later he tried to contact me again asked me out ,i scratched my head in disbelief and thinking is this for real?!...but yes it was real , he asked me out again after all that , what a crazy Mofo.. i never replied back to him for sure.
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RHP User
10 years ago
I would go with you, but the damned distance........
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RHP User
10 years ago
Yes, I saw the movie and loved it. I agree with KissK however, that is no way to talk about real people.
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RHP User
10 years ago
First time in a long time that I actually said WOW ... loved the suspense. Luckily I have never met anyone anywhere near unbalanced as the character in this film. Great film though... loved it.
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RHP User
10 years ago
and there will always be movies and TV shows about people who supposedly lose the plot. Seems a strange topic to put up here. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
10 years ago
The OP was in context.... I've messaged simple needs about an issue that I've had in the past with a person That in my opinion IS fucking crazy.... - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
10 years ago
As I said, he could have chosen his words more carefully, but these things do happen....I still have a phone stalker, who texts me at all times of night, keeps changing his number, and sends me photos of his faeces. Do I call him fucking crazy? You bet I do.
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RHP User
10 years ago
Can you get instant posting already? None of your posts were there when I wrote mine. To (sort of) answer the OP: I work with many people with severe mental health issues, as well as emotional damage from being abused etc. Yes, some of them do things in relationships that defy all logic, from being extremely clingy to beating their partner and anything in between. I had a client once who wanted to marry me and bought me flowers for Valentine''s Day worth well over 200 dollars. That was rather unsettling. In the news this week: A woman who got stuck in the chimney of a guy who she met online and was stalking. A scary idea and a reason men won't know where I live (not even the suburb) until I get a sense of who they are.
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RHP User
10 years ago
to be offended also. Everything is offensive these days, I believe in free speech, if it is offensive to me, then I don't acknowledge it. I find it offensive that people are so offendable but I bet people won't stop because I don't like it. I love an argument as much as the next person but as far as names and labels, I don't really care...sticks and stones as far as I am concerned. I am not sure why people let it get to them so much. I don't think the OP intended his post to be offensive and I also think it is a valid post.
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RHP User
10 years ago
What instead of crazy arse woman the OP had said fat arse woman? It's just not respectful to describe humans in derogatory terms in my opinion. OP, did you really intend for your post to be offensive as ralf says? Going by your previous ones I find that hard to believe.
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RHP User
10 years ago
he would be correct. Some people don't like fat people and that is their perogative. I can't speak on behalf of all fat women but only myself. I don't have to like it if he called me a fat arse either personally or generally but it is the truth and he is entitled to his opinion as is everyone else. I agree that there are a lot of not very nice terms out there and some are used to try and hurt people but you are responsible for how you act in response to it. I also said that I DON'T think his post was mean't to be offensive. I think he was just making reference to people to do illogical things that don't make much sense. It happens, I have been stalked by a psychologist who should know better. I actually asked if if he has to be a little bit crazy to diagnose it, his reply...yep, a little bit, and that is coming from someone who works in the industry.
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'ralf74' I also said that I DON'T think his post was mean't to be offensive. My apologies, I totally misread that.
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'ralf74' to be offended also. Everything is offensive these days, I believe in free speech, if it is offensive to me, then I don't acknowledge it. I find it offensive that people are so offendable but I bet people won't stop because I don't like it. I love an argument as much as the next person but as far as names and labels, I don't really care...sticks and stones as far as I am concerned. I am not sure why people let it get to them so much. just basically means that the government can't arrest you for what you say, it doesn't make people immune from criticism from others for what they say. As for why some people don't like the labelling...when you are someone who has a condition/s that often receive the 'fucking nuts' type labels (e.g. schizophrenia, bipolar, personality disorders), it can have a significant effect on your sense of self esteem and self worth, make you feel ostracised, worthless, vulnerable, and just generally even more shitty about yourself on top of the fact that your condition is often already doing a pretty good job of doing that anyway. The stigma and labelling is actually often harder to deal with, and negatively affects people in more ways than the condition itself. It is also one of the main reasons that people who have an undiagnosed condition and who really need help, don't seek that help. We're not talking about some kinky fetishes here, we're talking about very serious health conditions that affect every aspect of people's lives in incredibly significant ways, and that are responsible for many people taking their own lives (contrary to popular belief people with mental health conditions as a whole don't pose a greater risk to others compared to those without, and they are much more likely to harm themselves than anyone else. Unfortunately though that type of story doesn't resonate with people like the 'deadly psychopath' trope does, so the myths continue). I don't have any issue with people talking about negative experiences they've had with others, and yes we all know that we need to exercise caution when meeting people and that there are some types of people we'd prefer to stay away from (whether they may have a mental illness or not). However, it's perfectly possible to do that without resorting to the derogatory labels and stereotyping that just perpetuates the stigma associated with mental illness.
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RHP User
10 years ago
I would be locked up every day if the government was monitoring what I say and I am not going to apologise for that. I don't go out of my way to offend people and I think the intent is far worse than the words. If you can get through life with never offending anyone you are either a liar or a saint. I could understand if the OP was calling someone crazy directly but it was nothing of the sort. It was a general quip to set the tone of his post, not a shot at anyone in particular.
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'Burning_Love' There's a difference between something that's personally offensive and something that's publicly offensive. Labeling people with mental health issues as crazy had been understood to be publicly offensive for a very long time. Lots of times people say 'it was just a joke' or 'I didn't mean it that way'. However not intending something (eg to be offensive to people with mental health issues) doesn't make it OK, it just makes it careless. In a world full of discrimination and victimization, we all have a responsibility to deliberately intend NOT to be offensive. As others have said, there's value in talking about experiences, sharing lessons and learning how to see signs of different things that might be at play in a relationship. But a forum dedicated to stories of 'crazies' is akin to a forum discussing 'niggers', 'retards', 'fags' and so on. It's not on. Choose your words people. And your intention. After all, no-one else is responsible for the messages you put out into the world. And if you choose to put ugly or careless messages out there, don't act surprised when people let you know what they think about that ugliness. - Posted from rhpmobile define crazy? the other words you refer to are words that bigots use. I am crazy some days, and my husband will tell me to my face. I know I do crazy things, like go swimming when the waves are to big. I think he is talking about DOING crazy things. The character in the story, is supposed to ACT crazy, so how do you direct a person in a film? Say can you be a little( insert political correct) but not to much as we do not want to offend anyone. this is NOT about bashing people with mental health issues. We have plenty of posts on mental health and I have not seen a single person say something offense on any of those threads. I have had depression anxiety and several family members no longer here because of mental health problems. I did not find the post offensive at all. Because I read the intent, between the lines of what he was trying to say. I have had the crazy people around me and I defend my right to say in my bloody opinion they were behaving in a dangerous way. You do not have to have a mental health problem to do crazy things think ridding a bike in bali, for starters. And stalking is a big one on here. Normal every day people can go off the rails and start stalking others if they do not get what they want. Shall I then say, there there luv, thats ok you can have my undies of the line and wank into them cause I know your not well? Me thinks Not. I just think we should be able to say a few things without being thought of as a bigot.
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RHP User
10 years ago
In any conversation? EVER? Or anything else derogatory in your life about anyone else? like she is a bitch? he is an arsehole? she is fat? she is too skinny? I like black guys? I like small cocks, that guy is a limp dick or a small cock? lets go for rag head, or faggot or slut or the list goes on and on and on and on. We need to look at the topic as in CONTENT and the spirit of what he is saying. I bit like the law, there is the letter of the Law and there is the spirit of the Law, sometimes judgments get weighted on that. I have a pile of stones over here....will all the pious please step forward and take one look in the mirror and aim. Ralf you are a breath of fresh air. I am like meander, I worked with lots of folk with mental health issues and I cannot for the life of me link that to this topic and make it a mental health bashing topic. But each to their own, we all see things differently.
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RHP User
10 years ago
Ralf if heard/saw something offensive you dont say anything? That is not right, being apathetic is not a good thing. I have been labelled a bitch many times for speaking up, for example when I recently suggested to someone that I was uncomfortable with a question another poster suggested that I should just shut up and not comment. I suppose it would make this forum all peaches and roses which is attractive to some, but I don't see why I should be silenced. Although I do agree that we go overboard with the political correctness.
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RHP User
10 years ago
I prefer to ask, What is Normal? Define Normal? You can't.... I work in the disability/mental health sector and after doing so for 8 years, only have the above question. I could spend a little bit of time with every single person no matter who they are and see some part of what you wish to define as crazy in them. It just so happens that that part of a persons genetics, sometimes takes over more than is socially acceptable.
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Single_Guy4U
10 years ago
that has agreed to go out with me has to be a little crazy
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RHP User
10 years ago
Wow, OP, a few feathers have been ruffled with your post, but its what keeps the forums interesting. Now I have to go and see this movie....
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RHP User
10 years ago
in the film was either a psychopath or a sociopath..They have no empathy for others...an empathy bypass in fact...I disliked the film,I was bored and found both of the main characters very unattractive...their behaviour towards each other and others was appalling....
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RHP User
10 years ago
a person with a mental illness or it can mean,according to the Urbane dictionary....People who are random,hyper,creative and flat out fun to hang out with........ Or...Dictionary.com...Informal.intensely enthusiastic
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'Meeka100' Ralf if heard/saw something offensive you dont say anything? That is not right, being apathetic is not a good thing. I have been labelled a bitch many times for speaking up, for example when I recently suggested to someone that I was uncomfortable with a question another poster suggested that I should just shut up and not comment. I suppose it would make this forum all peaches and roses which is attractive to some, but I don't see why I should be silenced. Although I do agree that we go overboard with the political correctness. and if I happen to disagree, I will say so but I don't find disagreeing and being offended as the same thing and although I don't agree with some of the posts here, I still believe they are entitled to say what they think. I have been called all sorts of names for one reason or another but if I took it all on board, I would be, um what is the word I am looking for....maybe a little bit crazy. I can laugh off other people's attempts to insult me because I believe in myself, who I am and what I stand for so I really don't see the need to get all worked up about it. At the other end of the spectrum, some people admire your forthrightness so who says who has to change? We are all right and we are all wrong, depends on who is listening to the perspective. I can even admire the arguments of people I do disagree with, I think those I didn't agree with had very good points to make and I also think they are very compassionate people because of their views.
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Insomnian
10 years ago
I don't post very often in these forums, mainly because fairly often this sort of thing happens, someone makes a comment or references a term and bingo, people jump on their high horses about this that and everything else. We are all equal here, supposedly all adults, so how about acting like it. If you had read the book " Gone Girl" or recently just seen the movie, you'd understand what the OP meant. The fact people are soo eager to take offence rather then stop and think for a second and actually ask for clarification shows somewhat of their own temperament. To the OP, nice thread, and yeah I've known some bat shit crazy woman in my time, and by that I mean bat shit crazy as in off their rockers. Now for all that want to get their knickers in a twist about it, go for it. If however you wish to stop and think about my terminology and realise it was in no way reference any mental disorder but how I saw the people, then you may have just learnt to think I tiny bit further outside the box then before you started reading my overly long post.
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RHP User
10 years ago
it looks like I don't have a date to see the movie. I will definitely work on that though as I want to see it now!
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Seachange
10 years ago
On a work break in Sydney back tomo. Free Monday! Will see it with you after we look for toys!!!!! haha talk offline ciao
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RHP User
10 years ago
This thread is a sick fucking joke !! It's fucking crazy !! It's driving me nuts !! Im going bonkers !! You have all gone mad !! Get off your high fucking horses !! - Posted from rhpmobile
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twowithnolimits
10 years ago
@bigocean You must be fucking crazy too LOL I see very few of you actually discussed the topic of the OP which was personal experiences, having helped some on here i know there are very negative experiences out there btw since we are all being soo pedantic and pc the woman in the film is a psychopath not a sociopath i do hope you all have the resilience to accept that minor technical correction...... (why is it when people ignore a topic in order to champion their cause i feel compelled to comment, is it perhaps because i too am a little bit............)
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RHP User
10 years ago
Nailed it
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'twowithnolimits' the woman in the film is a psychopath not a sociopath i do hope you all have the resilience to accept that minor technical correction...... Quoting 'Burning_Love'The character is a psychopath. Educate yourself Twowithnolimits, I thought that was settled on page one? LeVieux was the only one asking the "either or" question.
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abcplus1
10 years ago
Woman followed us (moved) to 3 different cities when we were young to be near hubby (which was her ex), would drop by with presents for his birthday and vowed not to give up till there was a ring on his finger......... Lost touch with her eventually, but it took a few years :-0
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RHP User
10 years ago
Why is it that people can go so over the top with politically correct nonsense and be offended instead of just wondering whether what someone says meant to offend anyone, whether carelessly said or not. Instead of looking for ways to be offended or angry, if you don't know or doubt that it was their intention to cause harm or offence, what is the point in getting angry about it? Instead of saying people should pick their words more carefully, perhaps more people should just try being tolerant. Besides, I think you would be hard pressed to find someone who actually has a real problem with people suffering from mental health so why do people want to look for it? Instead of maybe realizing that a simplified or generalised beginning was a way of prompting another question in a casual way. MR
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RHP User
10 years ago
Yes ! - Posted from rhpmobile
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MsSuperFoxy
10 years ago
My review on the movie...from my point of view is.... well.......maybe a little different to what others have said and it's got nothing to do with main character. Without giving the plot away and not wanting to spoil it for those not see yet...Closure is very very important. Foxy
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'SuperFoxxxy' My review on the movie...from my point of view is.... well.......maybe a little different to what others have said and it's got nothing to do with main character. Without giving the plot away and not wanting to spoil it for those not see yet...Closure is very very important. Foxy Totally agree with you Foxy.
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Seachange
10 years ago
You ladies bloody spoilt the movie for me! Haha. Kidding aside i am really intrigued to see the movie now that it has generated such controversy on the forum! Whisper to my ears the ending. .. do they live happily ever after? Lol. Hope to see the movie next week. Oi Ralf I'll buy the mega popcorn bucket and we can both hide behind it on the scary bits.
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RHP User
10 years ago
I may just have a date already :)
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MsSuperFoxy
10 years ago
It's goes for over 2hrs long... So take plenty of popcorn and water!!. Oh did anyone take note if bloopers in the movie?? LOL Foxy
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RHP User
10 years ago
Some big bloopers and a lot of little ones. Can't name them though without giving too much away.
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RHP User
10 years ago
I am yet to see the movie but have heard it was great and not predictable - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
10 years ago
This thread sure makes an interesting read.Thank Dog for diversity...end of story
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RHP User
10 years ago
Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned... Valerie Trieweiller'the ex lover of the President of France Francoise Hollande who dumped her for a younger woman,has published a memoir of her time as First Lady..Thank You For This Moment.Apparently it is a bitter,rage filled armory of poison darts which has plunged the French Presidency into a crisis....in her column in the Australian magazine,Nikki Gemmell compares Valerie to Amy the protagonist in Gone Girl,she goes on to say"Amy,Valerie,the world is currently transfixed by their female complexity.Are these women feminist heroines audaciously acting out revenge on their errant fallible men who expected them to be good,obedient ,pliant,conforming to the gender stereotype? Or are they just hugely damaging to the female cause....I thought that this was an interesting and different point of view.
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RHP User
10 years ago
you will realise that the OP is totally justified in his words!! aren't people always complaining that no one creates original threads? Damned if you do etc..... There have been times in my own life when I could only have been described by anyone as crazy/completely fucking nuts! ....thankfully, although I've met some wankers (not to be taken literally, of course, otherwise I suspect we're all guilty!) I'm yet to meet anyone on a scale that comes anywhere near that of the film....hopefully I never will! Of course, now I've seen the movie, I've gotta read the damn book! ;-)
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RHP User
10 years ago
I went stalker on a guy I fell for once. I did a lot of out of character things . I made a fake profile (on another site lol) and started taking to him. I wanted to see what he thought of me. It wasnt very flattering. He talked about things we had done and cancelled dates with me to met an imaginary girl . Who of course would cancel last minute all the time. Am I proud of it. No . I dont even know why I did it. Its affected my mental health . Even today . But mental health issues arent something to be ashamed of. It needs to be spoken about more and not shunned . Any discussion is vaild and maybe those of us with a lived experience can help inform and educate othere who make comments that are not meant to be hurtful but fuelled by a lack of appropriate language . - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
10 years ago
Is a much better film...not predictable at all and Nicole Kidman is brilliant xxFreya
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