T63
Health and safety
March 11 2020
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RHP User
5 years ago
My short answer is no, now here the rest of it, lol.. The Prime Minister and his cronies said yesterday that most people who get the virus won’t know or won’t get sick enough to even visit a doctor, although in extreme cases where the person is particularly old or sick they may die, so I’m not worried about it. I’ve just had surgery and will be returning to work on Friday but I’ve hardly missed a beat so far, not much stops me from anything, lol. I’m not sure what exactly is going on but it seems that the virus isn’t that bad at all, we don’t even get told to self isolate for the flu and we sure as hell don’t shut half the country down because of it, so I can only assume something else is going on...it is hard not to get swept up in the panic sometimes but the facts just aren’t supporting the theories about this one so I don’t really get it. At this point conspiracy theories are starting to look a lot more believable by the day, the people of the world were starting to reject China, them buying up everything and stripping Hong Kong of their human rights, now all of a sudden we need to stay in our homes and isolate ourselves from everyone and all the other news about how rotten the Chinese regime is has gone away. Nothing to see here people.... Ms Phoenix.
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86Jasindy
5 years ago
They could certainly lure me with a spare packet of tp 🤣 In all seriousness, it's blown out big time. Normally, it wouldn't bother us, however my mother lives in our house at the moment. She has terminal cancer and getting sick can be the end of her life 😥. This current situation means we are all vigilant with hand washing, public places we visit. We haven't stocked up on any items and more than we usually would, I generally have many cans, pasta bottled sauce etc in the cupboards anyhow. Oh, and tp? We ordered it online from who gives a crap and a box of 48 was on our doorstep the next morning.
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AnnieWhichway
5 years ago
There was some difficulty in getting this topic approved so please do not mention/name individual events. I felt that there was a need to provide a place where we could discuss the upcoming difficult period for this lifestyle and the health and safety of those within it.
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RHP User
5 years ago
You've changed your name. The 20's are certainly off to a roaring start. I think protection and isolation are some good strategies that will help us all through. I wait in hopeful anticipation for the vaccine. I am not part of the lifestyle I just like certain forum topics, so I don't have to think about altering my behaviour. In answer to your question though, yes I think it would be prudent for people to screen a little harder and ask questions. I also think people will not say they've travelled overseas, or have had a cough or fever if they think they may be on for sex. On the other hand, I also think that most people, in their essence, are decent and would probably not put themselves out there if they are feeling unwell.
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Kokoflamingo
5 years ago
But not enough right now to cancel social nights out. Here in Perth someone who tested positive attended a concert while she awaited the results. A few hundred people were at that same concert. Selfish action, yes...... will they all become ill? I dont think so. (Im more worried about all the guys who have told me they dont wear condoms.) Its early days yet. I just hope it doesnt become the "media" predicted pandemic that is causing all the hysteria.Or all our lives will be greatly affected
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86Jasindy
5 years ago
I was just walking my dogs and realised I hasn't answered your original question! In relation to meeting others/ other couples, I don't think it would stop us, however we may not be keen for meeting in a crowded public place. I just saw this post is related to a particular upcoming event? Not sure... depends just how busy it is meant to be
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RHP User
5 years ago
I’m currently reporting to you from my epicentre...I’ve got my spare room chockablock with toilet paper, I’ve got sanitiser on tap... No idea what the fuck I’m gonna est as I’ve spent all my savings on bog rolls but I’m guessing I’ll be good and won’t contract anything.... Mr dragon
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countrytouch82
5 years ago
In short, no. Not sure if there's anything affecting our community as opposed to the general community? As for meeting up and going out in general, the same risks always apply. Catching an illness, getting sick from food you eat, having a car accident on the way there, being involved in some random crime. On the long weekend I went to a rodeo, went to an airshow, went out with friends for lunch. If there's a meet and greet I'll come along.
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countrytouch82
5 years ago
Going out is also to still try and find that special person. If there's any reason to restrict going out, at least it would be nice to restrict it with someone else present ;)
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AnnieWhichway
5 years ago
Quoting 'countrytouch82' In short, no. Not sure if there's anything affecting our community as opposed to the general community? As for meeting up and going out in general, the same risks always apply. Catching an illness, getting sick from food you eat, having a car accident on the way there, being involved in some random crime. On the long weekend I went to a rodeo, went to an airshow, went out with friends for lunch. If there's a meet and greet I'll come along. It seems most times l attend a "gathering" l end up with a cold/flu due to saliva exchange. So yes CT, there is a difference unless at your general community gatherings you kiss or fuck a number of others.....
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RHP User
5 years ago
The media are drumming up clickbait and the government are trying to make up ground over there totally inept handling of the bushfires. This is not a zombie apocalypse it’s a bad flu, yes the elderly and the immune compromised are vulnerable but they have always been vulnerable. Seems the biggest issue is the education system. Critical thinking is at an all time low.
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boobsandbusted
5 years ago
Nope , just going on with life as usual and in general trying to avoid unwell, and stupid people ,I had a bit of a cold a couple of weeks ago , as much as we wanted to go to a party ,we didn’t put of general consideration of others , just as we would any other time ,hopefully most do the same Mr b
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non_such
5 years ago
There was a piece in the paper discussing the risks of swingers parties during the pandemic.. And a friend of mine in Hong Kong says the sex workers are having a tough time. So i guess we have to stay at home and jerk off, except that there's no tissues or hand sanitizer.... What would Tom Hanks do?
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non_such
5 years ago
...but their website says they've sold out.
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Sawadee
5 years ago
We never went on that hysterical shopping binge . BUT ' its hard not to get caught up in it completely . Regardless ' you still need the necessities ' so you go to the shop and see all the shelves empty and feel the need to at least grab something .. ? Just in case ? Today the virus was declared a world pandemic , so you just can't dismiss this as a over reaction. I'm still trying to get my head around everything that's happening and cant help but think there's a possible bigger picture . I'm aware of the conspiracy theories between the US and China and wonder what's really what ? But I won't go there... As far as meeting anyone ? I definately dont see it as a priority and if l did , we would prefer to meet at a low key venue for their safety and ours. Tom Hanks and his wife were reported as contracting the virus on the Gold Coast today ... So it's not fussy who it infects.
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Mischeviouslad
5 years ago
Most people practice a strange mix of personal preference V hypocrisy We will SAY we practice good hygiene, and then through naivety or our own choosing, we do the opposite Classic and simplest example in here.... someone says theyre all about safe sex at all times.... but they post a dogging or glory hole topic where having sex with total strangers is given no second thought Or, as i saw earlier today..... parents clean their kids hands with hand sanitizer...... but let them lick a train seat So ill summarise..... everything is fine, until you get an offer you choose not to refuse
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boobsandbusted
5 years ago
Get in ,get it early, get over it ,get on top of the heap rhem sit back and relax ,lol Mr b
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AnnieWhichway
5 years ago
Quoting 'usebi' The media are drumming up clickbait and the government are trying to make up ground over there totally inept handling of the bushfires. This is not a zombie apocalypse it’s a bad flu, yes the elderly and the immune compromised are vulnerable but they have always been vulnerable. Seems the biggest issue is the education system. Critical thinking is at an all time low. Makes sense. Shutting down entire borders just because of a media frenzy and a bad flu......More like governments know a little more than what the media knows. Anyway, the latest is being sent home from work if you have any cold/ flu symptoms and not permitted to return unless you have a medical clearance. However, you won't be tested unless you have been in the high risk category of being overseas or close proximity of a confirmed case. But you will have to wait several hours to be told to fuck off from the testing station. So good luck with that if you get a cold.Mind you, it should be standard policy to be sent home if you have a cold even in normal times.
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RHP User
5 years ago
Is if after all is said and done and the governments of the world are seen to be crying wolf will the public cooperate when we have a really nasty health threat ?
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RHP User
5 years ago
Local transmission is happening now in Australia so, if you have a respiratory illness AND it can't be explained by other causal factors AND you are in an area of local transmission then you are a SUSPECT CASE. Technically therefore you should be screened for COVID-19.
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AnnieWhichway
5 years ago
Yes new name for the sake of a change. Albeit temporarily. I'm an Altered Carbon tragic....and Mr Kovacs is running around in here somewhere
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sw1ng3rz
5 years ago
Working retail puts you in the mix of everyone and everything they bring in with them... but as far as meet ups go, I would hope would be the same as normal. If we are sick etc we will be honest with the other party and hope that they appreciate that honesty and being respectful enough that we don’t want them to get sick too instead of thinking we are blowing them off. I think a little more understanding if plans change is possibly needed cause we definitely wouldn’t appreciate turning up to a meet when someone was sick. Things come up, people get sick, plans change, not everyone needs to be written off if they are being cautious and considerate.
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SpicyKale
5 years ago
Mr Dragon, don't worry about not having money for food.... loo paper has become the new bit coin, you'll be able to retire on it😉 Still can't work out why Kimberly Clark's share price has fallen 5%🤷♂️ My guess is no one will be buying again for a year! As to the OPs question, we've just spent a couple of weeks traveling around NSW. A lot of time in tourist traps, Darling harbour, Circular quay, using trains and ferries, stayed in Chatswood etc... I'm not sure if we'd change our regular patterns at this stage, but time might prove us wrong. I can't see the difference between this and things like SARS, swine flu, influenza, or anything else, unless we aren't being told everything 🤷♂️ Can you just imagine what an outbreak on a swingers cruise would be like!
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NewVicCpl
5 years ago
Venues are closing in the US... There is a news article out today confirming some LA swinger venues have closed up for safety reasons with more to follow on.
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relaxedevenings1
5 years ago
The point is to flatten the curve (decrease the speed at which it spreads through the community). While healthy younger people have a relatively low risk of mortality or requiring significant medical intervention older (above 60) and people with pre-existing medical conditions have much greater risk. So reducing communal activities is more/just as much about protecting those groups of people rather just yourselves. About 5-10% of cases require intensive care. If too many people get infected too quickly our hospitals will run out of ICU beds (as what is happening in Italy at the moment) and the mortality rate will go up. Given the virus seems to be now spreading in the community and in some cases without being able to trace the source of infection, it’s probably now that greater public health measures (social distancing etc) are required.
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Kt_Kcouple
5 years ago
Relaxedevenings1 well said!! Covid 19 is not a government conspiracy but a real pandemic with 10x the mortality of flu and set to infect 60% of the population What we don’t want is. ‘Tidal wave’ of new cases which will overwhelm the health system (like in Italy where patients over 65 are being left untreated due to lack of resources ventilators, drs etc). Social isolation will be crucial to flatten the curve and have a more gradual increase in cases.. Still ok to meet up with small groups with sensible precautions, but clubs and big events not a great idea!
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AnnieWhichway
5 years ago
was intended to ask if with consideration of the situation would it change your intention of attending large events , namely S&S this month. Well that choice will be off the table with the government's decision to ban gatherings of more than 500 people. Although listed to attend, l had decided to avoid due to having a compromised immunity system as well as being an old bitch. I've also withdrawn from all meets/dates. Fun times......
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AnnieWhichway
5 years ago
was intended to ask if with consideration of the situation would it change your intention of attending large events , namely S&S this month. Well that choice will be off the table with the government's decision to ban gatherings of more than 500 people. Although listed to attend, l had decided to avoid due to having a compromised immunity system as well as being an old bitch. I've also withdrawn from all meets/dates. Fun times......
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AnnieWhichway
5 years ago
Oops.
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SpicyKale
5 years ago
Annie, a lot seems to have happened in a couple of days! A large event, with lots of strangers (and not so) getting very close and personal... probably worth a miss this year. Unless you can dress a face mask up to look like something from "eyes wide shut" 😬
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PassionFreaks
5 years ago
We will be heading to Melbourne irrespective of the latest developments. If SnS is going ahead it will be our choice to go, and yes we will go. If the event is cancelled because of external pressures or negative publicity, that’s different. In no way could we hold the organisers accountable for that. I have a personal friend who’s been working on the live virus 🦠 since January, she is currently still unconcerned.... Mr PF
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PassionFreaks
5 years ago
Annie, I agree with your choice for SnS, that’s logical given your situation. I have a co-worker who has an immunodeficient partner. They’ve essentially been told if she gets it she will die. We gave our crews the option two days ago not to attend a job where a person who has tested positive. Interesting times indeed.
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countrytouch82
5 years ago
I thought masks looking like Bane's from Batman might be kinda cool... As for groups of people above 500, some writings call it a "ban", others call it advice. Some community events like markets etc especially outdoor ones, might likely have more than 500. I think the difference in sports matches etc is continuously being in close contact to others for more extended periods. More likely transmission than random passing with most often no touching. And high numbers being people coming and going over a course of time. An outdoor concert I have a ticket to soon, was listed as still going ahead, a few hours ago. It still may change. But will have to keep an eye on the situation closely, if it's up to me to decide to go.
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SpicyKale
5 years ago
CT, like your thinking! Just don't want to risk looking like Michael Jackson😳 We were in Katoomba yesterday and their jazz 'n blues festival has been canceled this weekend, can't imagine it was a massive event. At the rate things are moving it'll be interesting to see what next week brings.
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AnnieWhichway
5 years ago
A hazmat suit with the crutch and tits cut out.....could be a thing for a few Wonder if the virus is in the squirt fluid? If it does, could eclipse the Japanese reactors. No one could go down the basement for 300 years
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RHP User
5 years ago
Apparently we are being urged to reconsider attending events with 500 or more people.. Lol like that’s going to make a scrap of difference when 1 person can infect an A380 full of people... Seems utterly ridiculous.... Mr dragon.... PS....Spicy...I tried to buy a new Colorado with a family pack of quilton.....needless to say, I don’t have a new Ute 😂😂
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RHP User
5 years ago
Quoting 'Dragon_Phoenix' Apparently we are being urged to reconsider attending events with 500 or more people.. Lol like that’s going to make a scrap of difference when 1 person can infect an A380 full of people... Seems utterly ridiculous.... Mr dragon.... It's not just a matter of the total number of people that end up infected. It's also the rate at which they get infected which measures like cancelling large gatherings are trying to address. If a whole heap of people get infected at around the same time, that puts overwhelming pressure on health facilities who then end up unable to cope - both with the infection and with all the other sick and injured people who are still presenting as well. Trying to slow that rate of infection is called 'flattening the curve'. The other thing to consider is even if you are healthy and getting the virus wouldn't likely affect you much, you are still ending up as another potential source of infection for someone who is much more vulnerable (the elderly, immuno-compromised etc.). So that's the other rationale for cancelling events and large gatherings, social distancing, self-isolation etc.
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MsSuperFoxy
5 years ago
Stating, government employees can not leave the country. 😕 Ms Foxy
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AnnieWhichway
5 years ago
A "Fax". Are they still going? There are people here who wouldn't know what they are
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MsSuperFoxy
5 years ago
That's kinda funny! You are right.....yes, still going at my work. We are very much behind the times. Lol! A Co worker on my team was planning on getting married overseas. He has had to reschedule and the wedding planner company has gone bust too. He's still taken his leave, but can not travel. Ms Foxy
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Lullah
5 years ago
but relevant. Safety related --- Those here that know anyone living in an abusive environment who may end up in home isolation with their abuser/s, please keep in touch via the net if you are able to. I am aware that they will be very closely monitored more so than usual under the circumstances so obviously caution when communicating is vital. I have no doubt that any positive communication will help to make a difference to their day. :-)
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Dirtyandfriendly
5 years ago
I was briefed at work on the risks and a friend of mine who's a doctor just said make sure you take precautions. He said you may have small symptoms, but can get worse and not even know it. He said if you get a shortness of breath with it its serious. It's not just for yourself it's for others. Elderly and those with weak immune systems are at higher risk. I'm a diabetic and recieved an email in being prepared. I'm pretty fit so I should be fine. Reducing spreading it should be considered a priority.
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RHP User
5 years ago
Honestly, you're all idiots. Do some scientific reading and maybe you'll learn something. The whole attitude "I'm not in the risk category so I don't give a fuck" is the reason why Italy is collapsing. If everyone gets sick at the same time our hospitals will be DECIMATED. Our health professionals will not be able to save everyone. It will be a matter of prioritising who gets medical treatment and who dies. The effects on our economy are going to be huge. You may not be a high risk but what about your parents, grandparents, friends undergoing chemotherapy or other immunocompromised people..? Just because you aren't high risk doesn't mean you can't spread this highly contagious disease to people who may actually die from this. Instead of thinking about how many blow jobs you can get in one weekend how about thinking of the bigger picture here. If you break your leg or have a car accident and end up at the hospital and there aren't any beds or doctors available to treat you, who becomes the high risk person then?
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RHP User
5 years ago
Azdaja... Ahhh that makes sense....Thanks... Mr dragon
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funinsun5150
5 years ago
Relaxedevenings hit it exactly. Decreasing mass gatherings allows a slower progression across the community. For purposes of finite ICU resources this is imperative . No health professional wants to have to choose who gets ventilated but if too many cases present at the critical end of the disease process it will (and has) come to that. Most will have minor illness but you then have potential to affect many of whom a significant number may be quite sick. A friend tried to explain it like compounding interest. One thing to remember Your symptoms may be mild but the virus is the same The person you pass it to may not experience Mild symptoms just because you did. It will depend on their immune system comorbidities. It could come down to recent sleep. I hate the idea of stopping events but understanding how our health system could be impacted goes a long way to accepting it. Less about me and I. More about the greater good for all Remember also Self quarantine relies on intelligence and honesty. Sending kids to school or partner to work while you self quarantine displays neither of these traits
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RHP User
5 years ago
Looks like Townsville has its first official case. Was only a matter of time.
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MsJonesy
5 years ago
lock lips - or anything else for that matter - with anyone for the forseeable future. I'll still have some social outings with folk who I know don't fall into any of the high risk categories. I'm more concerned about the possibility of it entering my workplace as there are a couple of high risk factors that need to be monitored. I have been making gentle suggestions about making plans for a shutdown to the two people next up the chain of command, but they don't seem to be conducive to doing preplanning. I really do think it is a case of when, not if, compulsory lockdown occurs due to the nature of the industry I work in.
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DonnaBrett
5 years ago
This is how the Zombie Apocalypse will start hahaha
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RHP User
5 years ago
Today is Saturday 14th March. I got back from Bali a few days ago. There was no quarantine, no temperature testing, no health related questions on departure or arrival. I'm convinced its another storm in a teacup, but time will tell. I'm living my life the same as usual, i.e. without an oversupply of toilet paper.
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MsSuperFoxy
5 years ago
That's pure evil! Outbreaking news!!!! 😂 Ms Foxy
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RHP User
5 years ago
Short and long answer NO
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SpicyKale
5 years ago
I noticed the playpen in Melbourne has cancelled upcoming events until things are clearer. I wonder how many others will follow?
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RHP User
5 years ago
hey what are you doing tonight , or now
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RHP User
5 years ago
where are you?
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RHP User
5 years ago
I am immunocompromised and to make matters worse am actually undergoing some treatment at the moment leaving me even more susceptible to literally anything. I am mindful of my own practices, and I know I am no risk to anybody else, most of my current infections or problems are self attacking. However there are so many dishonest and manipulative people out there that I think I would probably have to feel v comfortable with someone now before engaging in any casual sex
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ontheprowl
5 years ago
Short answer is absolutely yes. I’m not risking my or anyone else’s health and causing a strain on our health system for a cheeky orgasm with a stranger. That can wait for as long as it has to as far as I’m concerned. My vagina isn’t going anywhere, it can wait.
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Kokoflamingo
5 years ago
I attended a Meet and Greet singles night. People were talking about the virus but otherwise having a really good time. I wonder if there is something they are not telling us as there have been some extreme measures put in place and meanwhile perfectly healthy people are still going about their business as usual
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vanillanot
5 years ago
There’s a huge percentage that we’re all going to get it like the common cold or flu so no life as per normal with us.. enjoy life with it’s clothed or naked.
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boobsandbusted
5 years ago
Vanillanot that was my same thinking early on ,until it was explained to me ,it’s not about just getting it it’s about the speed the whole county gets it and the impact on hospitals and medical facility’s they can cope with a steady flow over a prolonged period ,not a massive tidal wave at once , Mr b
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Casanov
5 years ago
For people who said the virus it is just a tentative to kill China trades and power, you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. I am Italian and the virus already caused thousands of victims back home and it will cause many more thousands. Beside that, the whole country has shut down. No work, no school, no leisure. If you have the same light attitude toward this virus, we are going to be in the same situation here. Italy is 24 hours away from china. Australian is much closer. It is a miracle it did not spread further here.
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AnnieWhichway
5 years ago
Scientific forecasts are 1 in 4 to be infected. So with a population of just under 8 billion, 2 billion infected. A mortality rate of at least 3% means 60 million deaths. People with attitudes of storm in a teacup, media frenzy will only speed the infection. Attitudes of she'll be right doesn't cut it and perhaps people that lose grandparents, parents can maybe reflect on that when it's too late. Sure, young are generally not under mortality threat but there are deaths in younger age brackets so those with the attitude can still be a statistic. Its time like this the fuckwits step up to be noticed
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sxc370
5 years ago
Got to love that fax technology. Especially now you need an ata for a fax line because of VOIP
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sxc370
5 years ago
Miss_falconer I wish I could like your post mpre than once Math don't lie. Puts it into perspective doesn't it.
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AnnieWhichway
5 years ago
And from The Lancet- infectious diseasese -: "Re-estimated mortality rates by dividing the number of " on a given day by the number of patients with confirmed COVID-19 infection 14 days before. On this basis, using WHO data on the cumulative number of deaths to March 1, 2020, mortality rates would be 5·6% (95% CI 5·4–5·8) for China and 15·2% (12·5–17·9) outside of China. Global mortality rates over time using a 14-day delay estimate are shown in the figure, with a curve that levels off to a rate of 5·7% (5·5–5·9), converging with the current WHO estimates. Estimates will increase if a longer delay between onset of illness and death is considered. A recent time-delay adjusted estimation indicates that mortality rate of COVID-19 could be as high as 20% in Wuhan, the epicentre of the outbreak. These findings show that the current figures might underestimate the potential threat of COVID-19 in symptomatic patients." So mortality rates will be somewhere between 3 and 20% With that, between 60 and 400 million souls
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EarthQueen
5 years ago
It's not just about me But everyone else I come into contact with especially those who are more vulnerable. . I'd rather take it seriously because we don't really have the ICU beds to deal with it if it takes the path it has in Italy . They are basically having to prioritise who lives or dies and that's not just Corona patients . It's any people that need ICU including stroke, heart attacks , accidents . I will not attend big events and avoid non essential events till we see what happens. Just because I think it's the smart and caring thing to do for my fellow man till we actually see how it plays out. Let's see how we go in the next few weeks. Hopefully we can slow the rate of infection. I wouldn't date now even if I was single and inclined too. Turns out pandemics are a bit of a mojo killer for me. I'm more focused on my family and friends right now.
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badboyhere
5 years ago
I actually was thinking of creating a topic like this but with everything going on did not even have the time to log onto RHP. My family and I have had a very unique experience with this. So what happened in the last two - three months to me and my family leading up to this week? In December I saw a segment where Ray Dalio (one of the most famous investment billionaires that nobody has heard about) came out and said that there was an issue in China with this "Coronavirus in China" and this could mean big issues for the world economies and world markets. So after he said he was concerned I listened and sold most of my shares and invested into Silver and Gold bullion. Fortunately this has proven to be a very wise decision. Then came the first COVID-19 cases outside of China, then all of a sudden, places like Italy, South Korea and Iran had bigger numbers of people being infected than China on a daily basis. Then there was the rise in cases in most Western nations including Australia. I started laughing at people filling up their trolleys at the supermarkets, watching people fighting over the last tin of baked beans and toilet rolls. I thought "what a bunch of idiots". Then came the market crashes around the world. Businesses including the one I work for started to come up with "Contingency Plans" just in case their workforce needed to be isolated, which was I thought prudent, but would there be some reality to this. Then came more market crashes. I started to think that the chances of a member of my immediate family contracting COVID-19 was less than 1 in 10, and I had a feeling of "not us, it won't happen". Then I found out that one person in my workplace (which I am not permitted to advise) contracted COVID-19 last week, and all those that were around this person across a certain time that they had been in contact with this person, were advised by my employer and QLD Health to self isolate and be tested. No results at this stage. Then my family had the news 2 days ago that one of the instructors at my sons martial arts in the North of brisbane had also contracted COVID-19, and all families that had immediate contact with this person were also requested to be isolated. Fortunately not my son at that time. Now we had 2 people that through 6 degrees of separation (or less), had contracted the disease. This was starting to get too close to home. I now adjusted the changes of one of my family, my wife, my son or I, from contracting COVID-19 up from 1 in 10 to 5 in 10 or from a 90% chance to a 50% chance. I now am starting to worry as I really did not think that this would get this close, and now there was a very real risk that one of us could contract it. How will this affect my family if one of us gets this? Based on the experience we have already seen from the cases we have had some relationship with, we would all have to self isolate for a minimum of 14 days. My wife is a casual employee, and so if she had to self isolate, she would have to forgo all wages for that period, and receive the government hand out which would not even pay for groceries. My wife would also have to advise her workplace and others that she has had "close" contact with would also have to self isolate putting them at financial risk as they also are casual. My son would stay home from school and before and after school care. We would be obliged to notify all parties and they would need to inform all families in close contact with my son and they would need to self isolate and be tested. Would they close? Who knows. If it was determined that one or all of us had COVID-19, depending on the seriousness we would be house or hospital isolated until cleared, which could take weeks or months to recover, (on that basis we did recover if it was picked up early enough). We would need outside help to deliver supplies to our house and drop off at our front door. We would be fully isolated from the world and the rest of our family. Fortunately technology could keep us in contact with the rest of our family, however for their safety they would need to stay away. What have my family and I done to prepare? We have talked and planned, even with my 5 year old son as he has started to ask difficult questions, particularly about his martial arts classes. We have started to stock up on some essential items, tinned food, frozen food, but only enough to cover for 2 weeks so as not to get too far ahead of the trend. No we did not buy toilet rolls ....lol. Based on our experience I would suggest not to panic, but to plan and start to prepare. Our two experiences have been far too close to home and we are taking all advice from QLD Health and our employers and my sons school, and doing all of the necessary actions to prevent infection. This also means that my wife and I have agreed that we have stopped all of our sexual activities with others. When things return to some normality, we will return, but for now, no way. I ask for all not to take this for granted......Learn from our experience, as we did not prepare until now and have been very fortunate not to have been one of the new cases......so far.
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RHP User
5 years ago
I have still gone to meets and am still meeting people. Yeah, I am a bit more nervous than usual but I am always careful about hygiene anyway. I try not to let fear stop me from enjoying life, sometimes I jet my gut feelings stop me, but not fear.
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Justlovetohavefu
5 years ago
Essential oils guys n gals they have been used for decade's and used to be more valuable than gold Its what all the pharmaceutical companies dont want you to know
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RHP User
5 years ago
I didn't follow the first pages. But it's great to see some great arguments put forward and discussed in the last couple. Peachy
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ElectricDreamers
5 years ago
Thanks for this thread. Yes cancelled plans to fly down to S&S. No casual hookups. No unnecessary trips outside. We work from home anyway, so that's a plus. We have too many vulnerable people in our lives to put a bit of slap and tickle, or a night on the town ahead of their well-being. I lost a loved one to HIV. People can die from making bad choices around sex, I couldn't live with myself if a hookup resulted in someone I love catching corona. If we are all over reacting then good, we will be saving heaps on future shops but if we're not then at least I'll know that I did my best to not be part of the problem.
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AnnieWhichway
5 years ago
I'm a bit flabbergasted that with all that is going on, there are a few people that are more concerned with the thing between their legs than doing their part for humanity in a crisis. Foregoing random sex with strangers may save some lives. Certainly, the search for Nobel candidates can bypass the swingers scene this year.....
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analysis
5 years ago
If you are out at a meet and greet you are heading out essentially “without protection”, and you are relying on the knowledge and common sense of the people ( you may not know) who are out with you to exclude themselves from the meet if they are sick, returned from overseas or have been in close contact with a covid case What’s your trust level? Given the age bracket of most online, you may chose to reduce your risks of catching it to protect your parents, grandparents, or loved ones, friends on chemotherapy or renal dialysis or who may have had a transplant, and not only to protect yourself If you practice safe sex because you are not confident about what you are getting into, how would you apply this principle to a meet n greet?
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Kokoflamingo
5 years ago
I went to a social meet and greet. People are still going out socially. Out for drinks, dinner, birthday celebrations etc. I work in retail and am in contact with many people each day. One of them might have the virus. In the UK they are imposing a 4 month isolation period on people over 70. This to me is akin to a cull. Many of these people are not lucky enough to have families to make sure they are ok. People will die alone in their homes. People still have to work.......unless the government is compensating for loss of wages during isolation periods? There just isnt a perfect solution. By the way.....mad cow disease, bird flu, swine flu and now this all have one thing in common. Eating less animals could prevent these hybrid diseases.
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RHP User
5 years ago
Personally I don’t have sex with random strangers so that’s not a problem for me but I do work in customer service so I’m WAY more likely to help spread it that way, even though we are taking precautions. I don’t think the death rate is anywhere near 3% either. They’ve done the most widespread testing in South Korea where they have over 8000 cases and 75 deaths, that’s not even 1%. Their critical cases are 1% so even if all of them die it’ll only take the death rate up to 2%. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but that’s pretty much all we have right now, no-one knows if the information we're being fed is accurate so as far as I’m concerned we should continue to operate like we always have in the presence of influenza. If anyone wants to hate on me for that so be it 🤷🏼♀️ The upside is that (apparently) you can’t catch coronavirus twice so once it’s done it’s done. We just need to hope they don’t pass legislation that basically forces us into isolation forever because let’s face it, there was a revolution starting and isolation was the only way they were going to stop it, as soon as the people are free again all those problems will come back 10 fold due to the economic crisis it’s caused. So either way it seems we’re heading for some kind of doom and gloom, all we can do is wait and see...and wash our hands regularly! Ms Phoenix.
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MsSuperFoxy
5 years ago
I made the decision to cancel/postpone as it is not worth the risk. Not only that, I believe it is a very wise decision. Plus my health and safety is really important to me right now. Ms Foxy
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RHP User
5 years ago
At first I was a bit cynical about the warnings from various quarters but I totally get the flatten the curve strategy, it’s very clever and I hope for the elderly and the vulnerable it works out. The bushfires showed us some amazing people, looks like covid is showing us the worst. There are people out there who would spread aids so this won’t bother those types. People are strange.
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The_Phoenix
5 years ago
We’ve cancelled our trip to Melbourne, smartest thing we could do given the escalating situation. Might go camping by ourselves somewhere remote or just stay home altogether. My mum actually came into contact with one P Diddy Dutton 4 days before he was confirmed positive with COVID-19 My nephews schools is holding quarantined patients from the local hospital in their chapel. Even with 6degrees of separation this virus is reaching out. Stay safe and sanitize! Phoenix.
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TheCoastCouple
5 years ago
Just received cancellation from S&S. We cancelled our trip earlier today with Jetstar giving money back as a voucher and Airbnb providing a full refund. It is a shame, but you gotta do what you gotta do.
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RHP User
5 years ago
Quoting 'Dragon_Phoenix' Personally I don’t have sex with random strangers so that’s not a problem for me but I do work in customer service so I’m WAY more likely to help spread it that way, even though we are taking precautions. I don’t think the death rate is anywhere near 3% either. I am exploring what you say here from what I've seen and how numbers are changing so quickly. Currently, I have the worldometer based on stats by WHO as 3.4% for the fatality rate. They’ve done the most widespread testing in South Korea where they have over 8000 cases and 75 deaths, that’s not even 1%. Their critical cases are 1% so even if all of them die it’ll only take the death rate up to 2%. Curiously, I watched a video about South Korea vs Italy last night (thanks to hubby). It mentioned how Sth Korea was in a high state of preparedness after a scare in the years previous. That is part of why they have done so well compared to Italy who wan't ready and did not respond well at all and have (according to worldometer's stats) about 7% mortality rate. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but that’s pretty much all we have right now, no-one knows if the information we're being fed is accurate so as far as I’m concerned we should continue to operate like we always have in the presence of influenza. If anyone wants to hate on me for that so be it 🤷🏼♀️ I'm not going to hate you for having an opinion... But I am for minimising contact which should have been done ages ago to reduce the spread which (along with easily available testing) is part of what South Korea's very successful approach consisted of. The upside is that (apparently) you can’t catch coronavirus twice so once it’s done it’s done. There have been several cases of reinfection reported. :-(We just need to hope they don’t pass legislation that basically forces us into isolation forever because let’s face it, there was a revolution starting and isolation was the only way they were going to stop it, as soon as the people are free again all those problems will come back 10 fold due to the economic crisis it’s caused. So either way it seems we’re heading for some kind of doom and gloom, all we can do is wait and see...and wash our hands regularly! This is going to change the world as we know it. I only hope our countries learn enough from this to adapt for the future, and change the employment situation so people can afford to self-isolate to help stop spreading infection. Ms Phoenix. Peachy, we have been blessed we believe in preparedness to be able to avoid panic buying.
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ruby_blossum
5 years ago
"Be careful who you take home this weekend... You may end up with them for a fortnight." Yes, ok. ...its meant to be a funny little meme and its nice to see some humour still out there during a time that changes, not day to day but it seems hour to hour. Everything that is a domino effect of the corona virus is beyond my control in the bigger picture... I can still take as much care as I can about me so I wont be very social for a little while.
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RHP User
5 years ago
Winter is coming, and with it the White Walkers.
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RHP User
5 years ago
Peachy, thank you for your detailed dissection of my comment, it doesn’t change where I stand on the matter but it’s always interesting to read other people’s opinions. Ms Phoenix.
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RHP User
5 years ago
We buy toilet paper. The yanks Guns and ammo. Yippee I Aye mother fuckers.
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AnnieWhichway
5 years ago
All circumstantial. No one is right or wrong. Best practise may be as low as 1%. USA is running at about 2%. Italy 7% Iran.....who knows, they are just doing mass graves and not counting as per spy satellite imaging
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nightingale8
5 years ago
Today I found out the NSW Health Minister’s name is Brad Hazzard. He’s literally a Health Hazzard 😆 Stay home and enjoy polishing your bottoms.
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RHP User
5 years ago
No offence is meant. It's not meant personally at all. Your post interested me because of what I've come across so I wanted to add what I knew of in the way of reporting. Nothing to do with having an opinion but sharing news that seems believable, as it came from WHO, that rounded out what you had to say. My opinion is that it seems believable and it's interesting that I watched that clip comparing Korea, who you mentioned in your numbers, to Italy. Korea happens to have the lowest mortality rate compared to Italy that has the highest. Korea was more prepared after the MERS issue they had in 2015. What I got out of that is that our actions very much make a difference. I'm not arguing your 'opinion' at all which you are entitled to. 👍 My on topic opinion is that no, I won't be meeting people. I'm someone with a compromised immune system, so that makes sense as well being a loner at the best of times who happens to be pretty well prepared though we'll struggle if hubby can't get to work for any reason. Pretty much the same as the majority of the population. Look after yourselves everyone, avoid catching it... AND spreading it! 🍑
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ClassicLady
5 years ago
Guys - I know this is not what any of us want to hear but now is a time to think of the greater good - for the sake of the whole Australian community. COVID-19 is NOT the same as the flu. We don’t have a vaccine or cure yet and it spreads with the slightest of touch - exponentially through the community. You my not die of it but in the 5 or so days before you show symptoms you may pass it on to others and indirectly cause the death of elderly and other immune-compromised people. On the ABC tonight they were saying that Australia could be on the same trajectory as Europe and the US, just starting a little later. But there is time to flatten the curve to give the health system a chance to meet demand - if we all, as a community, act early and practice social distancing. Now is not the time to go all anti-establishment. Now is the time to band together. Our generations have not known war or a Great Depression. We’ve enjoyed the affluence that been built on the hard work of the generation who are now at risk. Please let’s not act like spoilt selfish brats ... Surely we creative wild people can find other ways to get our kicks for a while? Let’s share ideas ... Maybe it’s time for small closed trusted groups,stories, texts, videos and well encrypted online raunch sessions?
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usrightnow_Again
5 years ago
Miss_F., nice name change, I have a falconer ring, perhaps there's a joke in there somewhere. 😃 Important thread, thanks for putting it up. For health reasons, we withdrew from meets in 2017, perhaps we'll go back one day. For those active in the scene at the moment, I'd truly exercise significant caution. I wouldn't be attending group meetings, pubs, clubs or events. For me, my immune system is compromised, so I'm exercising extreme caution, however, even if I wasn't unwell, I wouldn't personally do any of the above at present, that would include one on one, or other new relationships of three or four, poly, for probably six months minimum. But that is me, I'm a cautious person who has read a great deal of material on the subject. . For those that are Still quite casual about this, feel it's a conspiracy or media beat-up, you are wrong to think that way and that thinking will endanger the lives of people like me, members of my immediate family, people who have contributed to this thread and so many others in the community. It's time to think of the community, our place in that community and the vulnerable members of that community. With Australia's largely casual approach to this crisis, many will die, many will lose their jobs, unfortunately, we missed the window to do our best. Look after yourselves, look after eachother. Mr. urn. .
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ClassicLady
5 years ago
In case I offended, my “spoilt brat” comment was as much aimed at myself as anyone else as I try to work the issues ...
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Kokoflamingo
5 years ago
The chatroom and a glass of wine will be my " nights out " for the next couple of weeks :) ....meanwhile my parents face a 4 month isolation period back in the UK. I think this is extreme. My parents and many of their friends lead active and very social lives. Its akin to imprisonment. Why not 4 months for everyone? " Because the elderly are more at risk" doesnt warranty this length of isolation.
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RHP User
5 years ago
Your not wrong there. We are new to the scene, great timing at least we get to meet people on here and meet up over time in this community 😁. Take care everyone and stay safe. Anyone interested in getting to know us please make us both welcome. 💋
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RHP_Editor
5 years ago
Hi all, to ensure our members have the most up-to-date and accurate information we are restricting forum posts discussing COVID-19 and instead directing members to the official government COVID-19 response information site. We appreciate everyone’s input here, but in line with the above policy this thread will now be capped. For more information on COVID-19 please visit - https://www.health.gov.au/
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