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Honesty or a beautiful lie? Which would you choose?

April 05 2013

Now before I start I realize that I will sound like a jerk further on so I would like to apologize for this now.On this site there are a wide variety of people, we have single straight men and women, we have single bi-sexual men and women, there are single homosexual men and women, there are straight hetero-sexual couples, there are bi-sexual hetero couples, there are homo-sexual same sex couples, and bi-sexual same sex couples, and finally there are straight, bi-sexual and homo-sexual transgender persons, as well as women and men who play around with their partners position and those that play around without their partners knowing.Now lets say for example, "you are a women, you have come to this site cause you are unfulfilled by your partner and need something, or someone else extra in your life. Lets say you meet someone on this site (this swinger site filled with people on here for sex), and you organize to meet with this person. On the day of when the meet is to happen, this person confesses that they had slept with someone else the previous night, why did they confess you may ask, they had no need to, you and this person are not in a relationship, you and this person have never met in person, only exchanged a few emails, and some text messages, so why are they confessing?You ask, they reply cause they wanted to be honest, but this isn't good enough for you, no this person has cheated on you, you're upset, they have betrayed your trust, despite never having met, despite never sleeping together, despite the fact that you are married and were about to cheat on your partner with this person."So I ask, this example is very extreme I know, but would you rather have someone you are planning to be intimate with be honest with you, or would you like the beautiful lie that surrounds these types of websites? The lie that cheating, and random sexual encounters don't regularly occur, and that everyone you meet this is their first encounter on a site like this.

Comments

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    None of my business and if I were you OP I would not have said anything. I also think that woman was overreacting and had invested too much feeling into a first meeting for something which was supposed to be a casual friendship. Lucky escape I would say. Run Forrest run

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    I am not sure OP why you were compelled to tell her this.....I think ,don't ask don't tell when it comes to NSA sexual encounters is best.However,as Meeka has said maybe you dodged a bullet,An extreme over reaction on her part me thinks.....and more than a little hypocritical if she is married.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    This is a bowl of fruit and NUTS! I shit you not , some people get invested in a person before they even meet them all that texting and ohh those emails and the long talks on the phone and the pictures   and there ya go down the rabbit hole its not Fucking REAL people untill your fucking in da flesh till then its all smoke and mirrors and ohhh he loves me ohhh he/she is the perfect one   blah blah blah....fantasy land takes on a whole new dimention with internet so called relationships   hope you like boiled bunny .... and like meeka said run forrest run

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    onemore thing did ya fuck her anyway lol

  • uneventful

    uneventful

    12 years ago

    Over reaction by her... Keep it to your self by you....- Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Exit, stage left. If you'd have said that to me I would have squealed, squirmed in my seat and asked for details! (oh dear, I'm a sticky beak)

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Assuming this is a real world example (always stranger than fiction)... There might be cause to reflect on your own language here. "Confess" Not tell, brag, let slip, or share - confess. It implies you knew in advance that an undue expectation had been built up. Moreover, it implies complicity in this expectation. Which happens - you want to make it special, you get caught up in it, the thrill of the chase... but, just because she's married (and perhaps even more *because* she is married and unhappy), don't assume it's just a game. If my quick reading of your statement is even half right, it might be wise to assess your approach or motives, as perhaps you, too, want more than a shag? Just a thought or two... - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    This surely cannot be a real example? If it is the world is more fucked up than I imagined. As Tuscan said it would seem that people get attached rather prematurely. All the build up and contact...artificial and synthetic as it often is...sometimes creates the illusion of pre-love.....however, like pre-cum this should be simply licked away and ignored as it is simply an indication of what is to follow. Danny

  • Mischeviouslad

    Mischeviouslad

    12 years ago

    Parts of this world are fucked up, and some, significantly more than others. I give you credit for contemplating if a shag.... is worth it. So many guys seem incapable of that form of evaluation when there's an opportunity to get off. So, as weird as the topic subject seems to be..... points to you for thinking with the big head. DG

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Great responses by everyone!! I agree with you all... TR, you're always so spot on and sensible and funny too. Personally I love to hear about my friend's escapades. Such a turn on. And Messo is right too, it does sound like you sort of knew she would react in some way. Great to see you back posting gorgeous Danny. Xx

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Yes this example actually happened, no the confession wasn't bragging, or under the pretense that this women had strong feelings towards me, it was a response to what seemed like a playful text.It went something like this (sorry I deleted the conversation, I will keep it as accurate as possible):Me: Would you like me to trim downstairs for you?Woman: You can if you want. You're scaring me now, how long has it been since someone has seen it? ;)Me: I trim it regularly anyway, and somewhat recent ;)Woman: Last night? :)Me: Maybe ;)Woman: What?Me: I may have been lucky at the party last night :)Woman: Ok forget about it thenAnd then after that is when I was harassed about the morality of sleeping around by her, when she is in fact married and doing this without her partners knowledge or blessing.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Quoting 'tuscanred' This is a bowl of fruit and NUTS! I shit you not , some people get invested in a person before they even meet them all that texting and ohh those emails and the long talks on the phone and the pictures  I know a few people who fantasize about the guy they are talking to, what he will say and do, how the sexual experience will be like, etc. It is all in their heads and they feel unfulfilled when reality hits them. I commend you wanting to be honest. I try not to lie but I do not divulge information if not asked. Perhaps that is something you should think about unless you wanted a way out when you met.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Would the answer she gave do you any justification? Look at it on 2 fronts 1) Why would she tell you? is she expecting something/ or worst, your judgement?2) What answer were you expecting from asking her the question? and would it matter?We humans are interesting when emotions take front stage. Honesty is numero uno, prying is not and neither is irrelevant information (like ones ex).How one reacts.... is art form.BREATHE.... grasshopper ;)

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Quoting 'michael709'Yes this example actually happened, no the confession wasn't bragging, or under the pretense that this women had strong feelings towards me, it was a response to what seemed like a playful text. It went something like this (sorry I deleted the conversation, I will keep it as accurate as possible): Me: Would you like me to trim downstairs for you? Woman: You can if you want. You're scaring me now, how long has it been since someone has seen it? ;) Me: I trim it regularly anyway, and somewhat recent ;) Woman: Last night? :) Me: Maybe ;) Woman: What? Me: I may have been lucky at the party last night :) Woman: Ok forget about it then And then after that is when I was harassed about the morality of sleeping around by her, when she is in fact married and doing this without her partners knowledge or blessing. I MAY have got lucky last night Like i MAY have fallen over and landed cock first in a woman And I may have accidently rolled her over and got the first hole from the neck and I MAY have tried to get up and her mouth MAY have wrapped around my cock   I MAY be a born again virgin puts hand to ear...yep I can hear my hymen growing back

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Quoting 'michael709' Yes this example actually happened, no the confession wasn't bragging, or under the pretense that this women had strong feelings towards me, it was a response to what seemed like a playful text.It went something like this (sorry I deleted the conversation, I will keep it as accurate as possible):Me: Would you like me to trim downstairs for you?Woman: You can if you want. You're scaring me now, how long has it been since someone has seen it? ;)Me: I trim it regularly anyway, and somewhat recent ;)Woman: Last night? :)Me: Maybe ;)Woman: What?Me: I may have been lucky at the party last night :)Woman: Ok forget about it thenAnd then after that is when I was harassed about the morality of sleeping around by her, when she is in fact married and doing this without her partners knowledge or blessing. Ok OP - Why on earth, if you haven't meet this woman, ask on (the First Meet and Greet) to trim downstairs for her for??If a guy said that to me, just prior to meeting for first time...I'd be thinking "WTF What has this guy got in mind??"...That it's self is a turn off and I would cancel..You scared the crap out of her because of your thrill...and then you went on to inform her that the last time someone saw "downstairs" was last night.....and then informed her "You "MAY" of been lucky at the Party last night"..Sorry OP - you just dug your own grave and gave a bad impression of yourself...You turned her off because you were being too eager...sorry I don't know any women that would be turned on by that.As meeka put it......RUN FOREST RUN.But then again...I am a Meet and Greet sort of gal.FOXY

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Quoting 'SuperFox'I'd be thinking "WTF What has this guy got in mind??"...That it's self is a turn off and I would cancel..You scared the crap out of her because of your thrill...and then you went on to inform her that the last time someone saw "downstairs" was last night.....and then informed her "You "MAY" of been lucky at the Party last night"..Sorry OP - you just dug your own grave and gave a bad impression of yourself...You turned her off because you were being too eager...sorry I don't know any women that would be turned on by that.FOXYOk, just to make sure I understand this. Do people here have sex on the second meet instead of the first meet? I am thinking he wanted to make it enjoyable for the lady after they met and decided to proceed. Still, I have to agree with Foxy about telling her you were with someone the night before. It happened to me once and I really didn't need to know that she just had sex before messaging me. I think all of us want to feel special, not a product on a conveyor belt.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    OP, your profile says you're 24. I generalise, but assuming it's accurate, sleeping around is the whole point of your 20s. Unless this woman had any indication of exclusivity she's living in some kind of fairy tale. And I'm guessing - seeing as you were planning to meet the first time and have sex the first time on the same night - that she had no reason to assume exclusivity. It's not uncommon for women to get attached, to pout when a man who we're interested in shares his attention around, to place unreasonable demands and expectations on him. But it's an ugly, petulant and childish thing to do. Older women - and I generalise again - tend to have a bit more perspective on these things but we can all do it. In the casual conversation you describe your honesty seems refreshing and natural. Stay decent and don't get sucked into juvenile behaviour by women ;)

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    As others have said...keep it to yourself, everyone wants to think they are a little special at least (even if only for a few hours)...what happens at a party...stays at the party

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Have learnt over the years that the best policy is to not offer more than is asked for unless it is really appropriate. That way you don't have to dig yourself out of a hole which we would all land in at one time or another if we followed ye old "honesty is the best policy" motto.   If asked, tell the truth... if not asked don't tell anything because the truth can hurt.   (Then again I may be called a liar by omission)

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    I've learnt, in life, not just here. Few people actually want the truth and even fewer will thank you for it if you offer it. Many prefer to lie to themselves and therefore everyone around them. It may not be intentional, but rarely do you come across an individual who is actually self aware enough to know when they are misleading themselves. If you can't be honest with yourself, you can't possibly be honest with anyone else.   As for sharing the details of other playmeets. Don't ask and i won't tell. If you ask...I WILL be honest.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Quoting 'zu7bcv' Ok, just to make sure I understand this. Do people here have sex on the second meet instead of the first meet? Absolutely, I rarely have sex with someone the first time I meet them. The only exceptions I've made so far were for men that live interstate and came to see me, or vice versa. And I completely agree with Karynb's statement: Don't ask and I won't tell. If you ask...I WILL be honest.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    People really do have a second meeting?       TR one hit wonder

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    We didn't have sex on our first date. Oh wait, we did. Just not with each other.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    I am a very honest a d polite person I also can tell a tiny lie to save someone's feelings I can have a fiery temper if provoked But that can be used in very good ways too Mmmwwaaahhh U big sexy man xxx

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Quoting 'tuscanred' People really do have a second meeting?       TR one hit wonder I am sure that they will always cherish that one meeting and judge every new meet else against that. You will become a gold standard TR. It is a pity they can't download you on iTunes and play it back whenever they want

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Quoting 'Ms_Devious' Absolutely, I rarely have sex with someone the first time I meet them. The only exceptions I've made so far were for men that live interstate and came to see me, or vice versa. And I completely agree with Karynb's statement: Don't ask and I won't tell. If you ask...I WILL be honest. Good to know that the first meet is just a vanilla meet and greet. Don't want to make any faux pas when meeting with anyone. From the movie Don Juan DeMarco.Donna Ana: Very well, my love. I will accept that I'm not the first if you will tell me, with the same... honesty, how many others there have been.Don Juan: <voiceover> This would have been a very good time for me to lie. But truth is a terrible habit.Don Juan: Including you... there have been... exactly... one... thousand, five hundred and two.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Lies and Deceit are bad......very very bad. Even a little white lie is a lie....very very bad.LOL A good SPANKING for those who have been very very bad.... FOXY

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Quoting 'zu7bcv' Quoting 'SuperFox'I'd be thinking "WTF What has this guy got in mind??"...That it's self is a turn off and I would cancel..You scared the crap out of her because of your thrill...and then you went on to inform her that the last time someone saw "downstairs" was last night.....and then informed her "You "MAY" of been lucky at the Party last night"..Sorry OP - you just dug your own grave and gave a bad impression of yourself...You turned her off because you were being too eager...sorry I don't know any women that would be turned on by that.FOXYOk, just to make sure I understand this. Do people here have sex on the second meet instead of the first meet? I am thinking he wanted to make it enjoyable for the lady after they met and decided to proceed. Still, I have to agree with Foxy about telling her you were with someone the night before. It happened to me once and I really didn't need to know that she just had sex before messaging me. I think all of us want to feel special, not a product on a conveyor belt.i think you hit the nail on the head there...we all know that this is a swinging site...and we all know that the people we meet play with others too...she was wrong giving you a hard time..and i think your honesty is very honourable...but at the same time... i completely understand why she didn't want to sleep with you anymore...knowing you are meeting me, with the desire/intention, to get down and dirty.... while you still have someone else's juices dripping off your chin...would not make me feel particulary special either....what is the answer then, you may ask...?in my opinion...as soon as the original comment "slipped out" through your texting...and she asked you to ellaborate...you had to be honest...but you also lost her instantly....there was no way for you, to come out on top from the situation, i think...

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Quoting 'zu7bcv' Quoting 'tuscanred' People really do have a second meeting?       TR one hit wonder I am sure that they will always cherish that one meeting and judge every new meet else against that. You will become a gold standard TR. It is a pity they can't download you on iTunes and play it back whenever they want It would say...........beeeeeeeeeeeee afraid beeeeeeeeeeeevery affraid

  • Cheekyarses

    Cheekyarses

    12 years ago

    People we often tell you what you want to hear.... 'You are the only one I chat too' 'You are the sexiest person I've met in a long time' 'Ive met alot of ppl on here, but you are special' They are just a few lines that so many ppl say to keep you interested, keep you thinking that you are a special person to them.... Some ppl will be honest in saying these things, but alot won't! Only you have the choice to tell ppl what you want them to know! Whether it be the truth or a lie! I prefer honesty as I tend to be able to spot a dishonest n lying person a mile away..... But this is a sex sight! 98% of us are on here because we want to experience sex with others.....

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    My RHP friends will tell you I'm utterly vanilla.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    None of my business what they do the night before, the same morning or even an hour before. If we are only hooking up for sex I am not about to tell them all the nitty gritty. I only want sex.. not to get married and have his babies!!!- Posted from rhpmobile