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How To Be Successful On This Site- For Men
March 11 2008
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RHP User
17 years ago
Well posted, I have only been on this site for a short while and have met (and by met I mean chatted to) a few nice people, one thing I find frustrating, is when people (and I am straight so I am referring to the women) put "looking for a play buddy, friend with benefits" and so on, but once you begin chatting with them, you find out they want a whole lot more??? This is a small annoyance, but an annoyance just the same. Any thoughts on this Lili? Are there people out there just looking for fun? Regards,
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RHP User
17 years ago
Wow Lili, You really took some time out to think about this. What you say is true but I really do think it comes down to women only wanting the best. Which is fair enough when you have so much to choose from. The reality is that it's pretty hard to even get a look in unless you look like like Brad Pitt. Personally I've given up looking on RHP and happy to read & reply to post likes this. Cheers.
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RHP User
17 years ago
playtime4uxx, It's always good to ask people what EXACTLY they mean by friends with benefits, fuck buddies, play friends, no strings attached, etc. To some people, those terms all mean the same thing and are interchangeable - to others, each one represents a different way of interacting with potential partners. Asking for clarification as soon as possible is also advisable. That way, you can possibly avoid disappointment later in the piece if/when you find out you both have different goals. ask them what their relationship boundaries are, what they're willing or not willing to do with you, . For example, person A just wants sex, this persons doesn't want any other interactions outside the bedroom or which ever place they happen to be fucking in, no calling/chatting/messaging unless it's to schedule a fuck, no talking about anything outside the context of sex, no socialising like dinner, movies etc. think of it like entering a business contract. of course, people being people might change their minds later on, and that's their prerogative. it's might not always be the case of them deceiving you. in that case, you can either re-negotiate or just leave. we all want fun, I doubt many people would be looking for a miserable or boring time, masochistic not included (even then a masochistic would be having fun being miserable in a twisted sort of way). however, not everyone has the same idea of what fun should be.
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RHP User
17 years ago
kooldude, Actually, it was another lady who took the time to write that guide, I just cut and pasted here. I wish I did write it though. Perhaps you're trying to contact the Angelina Jolies of this site....? Physical attractiveness does play a pretty big part, however I don't believe everyone is that shallow that that's ALL they take into consideration...ok...well maybe a lot of people out there do, especially the ones looking for pieces of meat they can get THEIR rocks off on. So you're not the poster boy for a calvin klein underwear ad...then play up the qualities you do have. I don't think it's the fact that you don't look like Brad Pitt that's working against you, but the content or the lack thereof in your profile itself. I too have given up looking for anything from this site though for different reasons. I do like sticking around for the community forums. l.
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RHP User
17 years ago
just wanted to say what a wonderful help you have been thank you take care god bless
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RHP User
17 years ago
I'm hearing you Lili, best to find out early, but I hate sounding rude by asking right away "what are you after/ looking for"?? But I might give it a try.... So Lili, what are YOU looking for ;) Take care
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RHP User
17 years ago
playtime4uxx, well i guess you don't have to go straight for the proverbial jugular when it comes to finding out the other's intentions, maybe just lead up to it pretty early on. what am I looking for...well it's changed over the years that I've been using sites such as these..... initially, it was to prove to myself that i can actually have sex without being traumatised by it (a long story, and not a particularly pleasant one). it was also convenient for me as I didn't have time to socialise since I was working full time and studying full time. Was I successful....yes...i did have a lot of sex, and no i didn't go into a catatonic shocked state or get hysterical. Did I enjoy it....no. Why? Too complicated to explain. Once the initial purpose was satisfied, then it changed to seeing if I could find people to make a favourite fantasy a reality. That pretty much bombed out. Until recently, it has changed to finding people for a friends with benefits situation. people who i'm comfortable enough with to lose control, who i look forward to seeing, instead of being indifferent to whether I see them again or not. By friends with benefits, to me that means strings. it's impossible to be a true friend with someone without strings. otherwise, it's just a charade where you're going through the motions until something better comes along. it means i'd like whoever i'm sleeping with to be involved in more than one facet of my life and i in theirs. and no, it doesn't mean i want it to end up in marriage. frankly, i've yet to meet a man I'd want for keeps, and I strongly doubt I ever will (too independent, too fickle, too emotionally guarded, and basically too damn lazy to chase). Ok....this is turning to another essay.....and not a very interesting one at that. These days, I'm not looking for anything in regards to rhp other than an entertaining read . Hmmm...I should have put that at the start! By the way playtime4uxx, where did you have that seaside photo taken in your profile....it looks gorgeous!
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RHP User
17 years ago
I don't find your story uninteresting at all, I would like to hear more, obviosly in a more private setting. If you are interested in chatting with me further read my profile carefully and see if you can work out the hidden "message" if not I will try and make it more obvious. I hope to hear from you ;) Regards,
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RHP User
17 years ago
Thanks Lili...I know that you got this info from another source but I found it to be very useful. I think if all the males on here could read this (i know lol) there would be a lot more happier people on here! As a woman on RHP, it has everything I have had a grievance with....Thanks Again.. Smiley xxx:)
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RHP User
17 years ago
As the male in Mars and Venus I met my Venus on another site like RHP. I had a single male profile up as did Venus. I think the go is be honest who you are and what you want. If you just want a quicky, according to the gals, looks like it will be solo unless you are very very2 lucky. If you want more then the truth will come out soon as you lose again if you stretch it. If you are after what I was after then that takes more work and a degree of luck. Plently of good pics in the general is a must and more ie face shots and yes....of course some hot pics in the PG as this is a sex lovers site. Take it as fast as you dare. And pay up as its expected that the guys pay now isnt it....hmmm.....we currently arent paid up but have been several times. I can see some of the gals arcking up right now lol....It not a mystery to me why there are more guys than gals but come on it cant be 10/1? If so where do the other girls hang out I wonder? If I find out I will make a post...now how much is that info worth I wonder....hmmm. It seems to be same on all these sites. I could say more but this would not be in subject. Mars
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RHP User
17 years ago
I've used dating sites and I've used sex sites, I've met a heap of women on dating sites, but none on sex sites. Using the exact same methods of introduction in both situations, and also using a more direct, confident up front approach. I'm intelligent, I like to think of myself as at least a reasonable conversationalist and I'm not bad looking (feel free to disillusion me on that). What am I doing wrong?
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RHP User
17 years ago
personally, i think this is a dating site....just the focus is on more down to earth matters. if you're interacting with another person, it is a kind of relationship, albeit in rhp case, usually a very brief one. here i feel more comfortable talking about my sexual preferences without freaking out anyone or giving anyone the wrong impression...how many of you dated someone only to find out you're completely incompatible in bed. while sex isn't the be and end all....i think it is one of the easier ways to forge an intimacy or bond between two people. while it is the modern age, and it is more permissible for a woman to be sexual/sensual...however, not everyone adheres to that open mindedness. sadly even here, a majority of men approach this site as a whore mart or a whores R us. that the women here are solely for their use, and like an object, shouldn't be allocated the same amount of respect to say...someone they met in a church group. i think basically that's what's working against you, the plethora of males before you who have just gone about things completely the wrong way, and now the women are wary. Yes, it is an adult site, but i've noticed very few act like one on here. a lot are like children that demand their treats now then throw a tantrum if they don't get their own way....or like to play games with unsuspecting people.
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RHP User
17 years ago
you said it all! however, your last post was a pipe dream this is fantasy, you can tease, grope have safe virtual sex with anyone here, but Meet!!!!! Not too often. Have met a few. and no doubt they will think same similar about me, "not what I thought" "different from Profile" bad luck thats life, and so is meeting someone, you wont know till that happens so I for one am happy, (although I am currently seeing someone so off books at present), just to meet and greet. use the system, be used by it! we can all be whoever we want in cyber world love all your posts aj
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RHP User
17 years ago
aj, basically people treat this site the way they like...if it's just a fantasy or a dream to them, then so be it, though it sucks completely for the people who get unwittingly caught up in other peoples fantasies. or if they want to treat this as an adult dating site, then fair enough. that's also their prerogative. i can't speak for anyone else, but personally for me, it's the latter. i wasn't here to cyber grope or have safe virtual sex, nor for the fantasy (though there was a fantasy that i would have liked to explore but the reality was just too difficult to organise). i was here to meet people, and meet people i did...I never saw the point in mis-representing myself since my goal was in meeting and doing that would just shoot myself in the foot...i'm not that stupid all the time, nor am i too much of a masochist! however, i have no control in how other people perceive me. but who does really...unless that particular audience member happens to be completely without a thought in their heads that they can't form their own opinions. it's also not the first time a persons desires cloud what the actual reality is...those of you who've had stalkers could probably attest to that. i'd like to think i'm pretty much the same offline as i am online (though I would admit i'm a lot crankier online than I am offline - too many internet dis inhibited dead beats tend to spoil ones good humour on occasions!)...at least i've been told so by the people i've met whenever the subject came up. but hey, that's just my say so...what am i to you all anyway other than a bunch of words on the screen...so take it or leave it as you will. yes to ME, this was dating site, since it's people i was having sex with, not just walking dildos. i'm not the kind of person who can divorce the orifice/body part from the person it's attached to...but the whole package where foreplay starts in the brain and definitely long before the clothes come off. that's not to say i was looking for the love of my life here, i'm too much of an emotional coward, love phobe and a control freak for that to ever happen. at least not till i can exorcise my demons. meanwhile, why not enjoy the mr. and miss "right nows".
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RHP User
17 years ago
Yeah I see what you're saying. I visited the chat rooms for a little bit, and it's like, 10 to 1 guys to girls (possibly a higher ratio than that). Then some girl jumps on webcam and starts doing whatever it is she's doing, and every guy is like "quick! Do something to make myself stand out". And so it ends up being a chat room full of guys making random compliments that really mean nothing to anyone... Let's just say that I won't be visiting the chat rooms too often... Anyway, thanks for your words on the screen Lili.
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RHP User
17 years ago
That's why I don't like to chat in the rooms much these days.......kinda over all the game playing and innuendo. Too many men only want to chat to those women on cam, unless of course they have sexy photos on their profile, they will usually be ignored. Then there's your those who stick with who they know in the room and ignore the new ones who come in wanting to be friendly and get to know some. Even msn is getting kinda boring to me now. Call me old fashioned, but I prefer having a nice friendly chat over the phone these days! Just in reference to what Lily mentioned above about how this site is viewed upon as a kind've "Whore Mart" to a lot of men, I think it's not much different than the whore you see in church. The only difference is, in church, they can get away with it, playing Christian, Catholic, whatever as it's their little secret. At least with a site like this, it's out in the open, not kept hidden away, (excluding the person's deepest, darkest secrets) with the opportunity to talk openly about subjects that the church are embarrassed to address in their sermons. Most of the regular women I see chatting away in the rooms seem to me to be the "un-whorish" type, whereas viewing a woman exposing everything to anyone on cam without taking the time to chat to anyone in the room looks to be more whorish.
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RHP User
17 years ago
Wow...you are so spot on and I have loved your posts...you should be mandatory reading for everyman on this site!
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RHP User
17 years ago
regarding photos....... photos of your car or motorbike should be shared with your mates...not women you're hoping to seduce
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RHP User
16 years ago
Just wanted to say thank you for posting this it is a big help
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RHP User
16 years ago
I decided to send this to every person who sent me a boring/canned message as part of the rejection letter....since i had received around 300 messages in a period of a week...I deemed it appropriate as well as time saving to do so. let's just say it didn't go down well at all. the vitriol i received....i think only my toenails would have been left...they did not take too kindly to unwanted advice at all... it's kind of fascinating to view a male ego in action... it's amazing how people think "hi how are you" as a well thought out message perfectly tailored to the person they're sending..or "hello, my name is... i like your profile...check out mine....if interested message back"....now multiply that by 300....it's very hard to be inspired to reciprocate an interest let alone want to take the time to read the profile. i can understand if someones profile is that minimal that you don't really know what to say to them. that would have been acceptable. i wouldn't know what to write to someone either who just says they're here for fun and have a gsoh....boring...
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RHP User
16 years ago
Hi casava, Having spent the last couple of weeks poking around this site, your last paragraph is very poignant. So many women have just one or two lines of text in their profile and it's so hard to find a way to connect with them when you know absolutely nothing of them. So addition to us guys having to somehow stand out from the rest of the slavering horde of desperados, we also have to struggle with women who won't give us a hint of where to start. I hate sounding like a form letter, but sometimes there's little option. That's why I particularly appreciated your profile - it was full, interesting and amusing.
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StookyAndChooky
16 years ago
While I have been lucky on this site, it is good to see a post that can really help others out that are having a few problems. Great work!
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RHP User
16 years ago
I may regret saying this, but i thought my profile was ok lol, but reading your well said post made me think twice. I must admit i have wondered for a long time what was wrong with my profile lol, as yes, i know what i am like, but portraying that to others.. hmm, different story. I always thought it was because women thought i was past my use by date lol, now it seems i have to look at my profile, and revamp... suggestions haha??? But must say, wow, well said, and yes i only just discovered this forum.. Thanks and well said once again..
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unrealGent7
16 years ago
I would have to totally support every point made in this forum thus far, especially that of Vizier. The shoe fits perfectly on the other foot. I would only like to add that those of you who recieve a message written with a little or considerable effort, a simple thanks but no thanks goes a long way. I completely understand the likely remarks of those that are less than gracious, but to be completely ignored repeatedly disheartens the best of us. Unreal Banana
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RHP User
16 years ago
I realy need to look at my profile and the reason why I am on this site and put it into writing. Girls have it easy. Thanks for your advice. s
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RHP User
16 years ago
Not really. Getting a lot of emails is like being bombarded with a plague of flys, really annoying and sometimes creepy/icky enough to make your skin crawl. Sometimes you accidently swallow one and it leaves a bad taste in your mouth. Occasionally you get to have the satisfaction of swatting one dead. Probably not that great a metaphor, but hopefully you get the picture. Basically, we have to wade through tonnes of the same old carbon copy messages from carbon copy profiles, with the rare occurrence of something interesting. A flood is just as bad as a drought.
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RHP User
16 years ago
hey thanks for the heads up what a great read hope it inproves ny chances
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RHP User
16 years ago
This is most probably the single most helpful forum post i have stumbled upon. I will now go back and try to look at my profile through the eyes of a woman and see how it turns out. thanks again
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RHP User
16 years ago
This should be posted to all areas and all men must read!!!! They honestly have no clue.....right down to the photos (yes we do notice the empty stubbies and unmade beds, jocks n socks all over the floor in these shots!!). They should not be allowed to sign up without reading....although on reflection it makes it very easy to choose the diamonds from the cubics and rhinestones!!
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RHP User
16 years ago
Great post, fantastic pointers and some interesting replies, but there is one thing that totally turns me off BIG TIME with some guys on this site.........lies to get through the front door ! Guys, yes it is primarily a sex site, but why fill the limited number of women's heads with crap just to get a look in ? The number of times I've struck up friendships over msn via this site to be told "I'm so over that site blah blah blah" you organise to meet them & they can't even be honest then ! Hey, if I'm not into you, I'll let you know - not jump into bed with you to ignore you 2 days later when you say hi lol........manners are a huge turn on, rudeness definately is not. No, I am definately NOT looking for a wedding ring, I just got rid of mine ! But have fun - HECK YES - but not with guys who want a one night stand - it is just not me. I'm a rare one, I like laughing & conversation, not heading for a bed 2 minutes after meeting.
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RHP User
16 years ago
kind of agree with the last post, am seriously finding the majority of men on here like to spin to win, such a turn off !
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RHP User
15 years ago
But 90% of the women wont even bother reading your profile if she doesn't think you are good looking. I have never heard of a woman say, oh I think hes great looking if only he put a funny annecdote in his profile.
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RHP User
15 years ago
trust me, 90% of people contacting you isn't all it's cracked up to be, it's a pain in the arse. unless you're here for a popularity contest. or just trying to get as many notches in your belt. i am one of those 10%, if the content is shit or mediocre, regardless of how hot the pic is, it's really unlikely i'll respond, and I definitely won't initiate a message. Yes i do use my precious one message per week quota on the odd occasion I find a profile interesting enough, it may not be because I'm interested in that person in the sexual sense.
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Goldenage
15 years ago
To be honest, women have it very easy on this site..........i've tried several different approaches on my profile and figure that I may as well leave it as is.I'm no player and have met a couple of fantastic women over the years but it's not as if they beat a path to my door.I know the ratio is so high with men dominating women on this site and I think it's unfortunate that a few bad apples upset it for all concerned, one wrong word in an email you you get branded for life by some.Biggest problem I think is the lack of honesty on both sides in the hope of jumping into the sack with some-one without doing a few hard yards first, after all how much fun can it be to just wham bam get up and go.Just my opinion from what i've observed over the years.
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RHP User
15 years ago
I don't think the ladies have it any easier, they just have a different set of problems to deal with than the guys. Flood or drought, both are just as bad. And you're right, lack of honesty is a problem. But that's the nature of the medium, it makes it easy for the people inclined to prevaricate. it does take a bit of work on both sides to weed out the undesirables. just be sensible, realistic, relatively honest and don't use this as the only option for meeting people.
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RHP User
15 years ago
interesting post, thanks. I am, i think, a nice guy. shy and very single. But i always am polite and respectful in my messages to women, and i dont even get a response. i really dont know what i am supposed to do. I am just myself with many interests etc, but its hard to try and get to know someone when they wont even talk to you. and unless women have some superpower that allows them to tell a mans worth in a mere message, i am not sure what i am to do then. but i do think that maybe some men can certainly be summed up by one message. I really am kinda lost and bewlidered by this all. i just dont understand why it is so hard to meet a girl and more importantly how to get a response in the first place.
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RHP User
15 years ago
you said women find it no easier. you are joking right? seriuosly any women can get laid . my ex proved that when i found all the email on her my old PC , she can get a fuk anytime. i have been trying all the dating and sex sites in asutralia, its cost me hundreds of dollars over the 2 years, and i cannot get sex, no on is interested no on ever responds to me. dont tell me women have it hard
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RHP User
15 years ago
Awesome topic and thanks for the advice. I'm implementing things as we speak!
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RHP User
15 years ago
Perhaps we can all take the time to update our Profiles & make them more personalised.I prefer an interesting read....... not the static comments RHP allows you to use.If a Guy's Profile is well written then I am tempted to respond with a Flirt (if I meet his criteria).Please Guys READ ALL THE PROFILE THOROUGHLY before sending Flirts or Messages!I prefer articulate Guys.......your profile conveys volumes about your ability to communicate!Personally, a well written Profile APPEALS more than a photo of your body etc.Thanks for this brilliant post...................................CiaoDom xoxox
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RHP User
15 years ago
Shhh... you are giving away far too much information with your post ;)Some of us rely on the antithesis of your points in order to make us look good!
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