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Karma
February 01 2016
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RHP User
9 years ago
People saying things like ''karma will get them'' annoys me as well, as it just doesn't happen that way. My theory is that (most) humans don't deal well with things they don't understand, and they have a need to believe that there is some type of order and 'justice' in the world. They need to believe that it's not all just a crapshoot with good and bad things happening randomly to anyone, anytime, regardless of the type of person they are. I think people misuse the concept of karma almost as a survival mechanism....as a way to try and make sense in their minds out of what is often a very nonsensical and cruel world.
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RHP User
9 years ago
That's not to say that I don't believe that your own actions and behaviour have no influence on your life, obviously they do, but the idea of karma meting out cosmic justice is a fantasy.
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Katkat
9 years ago
I do believe in karma & they always come angel in disguise might not get the same treatment or only worst I guess. That's why you should always do good deeds as saying, but everything happens for a reason. One day you're in top of the world next you're under its a life cycle you go through just gotta keep it up & be good. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
9 years ago
I much prefer "you reap what you sow" "You made your bed, lie in it " Etc. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
9 years ago
I used to believe the myth about karma. I still believe that certain things in our lives were meant to happen but if someone does something bad to me I learn from it and move on. Lifes too short to be bitter is something Ive come to realise lately.
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RHP User
9 years ago
It seems to me that most of what comes from the eastern world, westeners like to make their own versions of and generally fuck it up. I feel karma is a little like this. I don't really think our western world has much of an idea about how life truly works (in the natural way) and the proof is in how we bugger up nearly everything we touch. If karma does exist I feel it is more about positive drives positive and negative drives negative.
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MsSuperFoxy
9 years ago
The self-determination and accountability of the individual soul rests on its capacity for "free choice". This is exercised only in the human form. Whilst in lower species, the atman takes no moral decisions but is instead bound by instinct. Therefore, although all species of life are subject to the reactions of past activities, such karma is generated only while in the human form. Human life alone is a life of responsibility. The Bhagavad-gita categorises karma, listing three kinds of human actions: (1) Karma: those which elevate, (2) Vikarma: those which degrade and (3) Akarma: those which create neither good nor bad reactions and thus lead to liberation. Ms Foxy
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RHP User
9 years ago
you will. Luck_Dragon is all over it.
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RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'TisonlyI' It seems to me that most of what comes from the eastern world, westeners like to make their own versions of and generally fuck it up. whereas the mystical East is in harmony with everything? like the tiger hunted to extinction so you can put a little dust in your tea for virility or whatever. People are good at changing stuff, and there are more ways you can change stuff and it be a bad result than change it in a good way. I don't think many people actively set out to do evil - I doubt very much that even within the upper ranks of the SS, or the female ministers who tricked all the Rwandan women into a stadium so they could be slaughtered... they probably weren't cackling with evil intent - they had the world view that these other people were a problem and by getting rid of them things would be better in the long run.
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RHP User
9 years ago
that piss me off :)Karma is one of them when it is used in the sense this one was used...IF it is the one I THINK it was.. I did reply to it there and then..As KIS says.. "Who decides in the REALITY of the perceived wrong-doing.. and therefore the doling out of suitable punishment" JUST because "Person A" says he/she was done wrong.. does NOT mean he/she genuinely WAS...THEREFORE.. me consoling him/her by saying Karma will GET the wrongdoer, is BS..Karma COULD mean ..."Accept this action has appears to have disturbed your personal agenda - NOW, lay it to rest, get over it, get on with life, OTHERWISE you personally will have a prick of a time continually dwelling on the past"Karma accepted..Life goes on..Lessons learnt..Wisdom imparted.. No Dirty washing to air..Everyone happy..PERFECT outcome...Sometimes I scare myself....
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RHP User
9 years ago
Karma is a very complicated system which like many spiritual beliefs has been diluted by Westerners into what I consider to be a stupid superstition...if karma was like instant noodles then of course the perpetrators of evil would instantly get their comeuppance..clearly this is not the case...the belief in karma does however excert some form of social control but karma good or bad,yep there is good karma too. ... It can take many lifetimes to ripen..there is incomplete karma,ripening karma,and ways to negate negative karma ...this is just my simplistic understanding of the laws of karma...as for every thing happens for a reason...this notion makes me grind my teeth...tell that to a starving child in Africa...there are just reasons WHY things happen..xxFreya
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inspirit
9 years ago
You scare me too. Pink horses indeed. 👅 - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
9 years ago
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RHP User
9 years ago
I believe if you do wrong by someone and they smack you in the mouth you probably deserved it, but if you're bigger and hit harder then you'll probably get away with it anyhow. People like to make up all these myths about karma and heaven and all this other religious tripe to make themselves feel more important than they really are. In reality we're all just atom particles which will turn to dust when we're gone and what we do while we're alive is our own doing and not forced by some cosmic force which guides everyone along a certain path. Thus, most of the people who I think of as assholes usually have a better life as they simply don't care about anybody but themselves and their own gratification and so don't have to worry what everyone else thinks. They take what they want, when they want to and to hell with the consequences. Very rarely does karma pay a visit. People with bad intentions usually come out on top in the big bad world, as they simply don't care about how their actions affect others. People like to paint pretty pictures and post inspirational quotes but in the long run I've found people who just do what they please without any regard for others seem to have more fun. Mr3.
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RHP User
9 years ago
I can't think of karma without having Lo Fidelity Allstars - Battleflag looping in the background of my thoughts.
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RHP User
9 years ago
karma is.....oh never mind - Posted from rhpmobile
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PatchworkGirl
9 years ago
Cavey, I love your definition of karma. Freya, I'm now singing Culture Club, thanks! As for me - sometimes people's actions have impacts on their future. Sometimes they don't, not in ways that we can see publicly anyway. And sometimes, more often than not I suspect, people who call on karma to take care of people they despise usually do so from the comfort of their own armchairs without any real understanding of the situation. - Posted from rhpmobile
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PatchworkGirl
9 years ago
Cavey, I love your definition of karma. Freya, I'm now singing Culture Club, thanks! As for me - sometimes people's actions have impacts on their future. Sometimes they don't, not in ways that we can see publicly anyway. And sometimes, more often than not I suspect, people who call on karma to take care of people they despise usually do so from the comfort of their own armchairs without any real understanding of the situation. - Posted from rhpmobile
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PatchworkGirl
9 years ago
Cavey, I love your definition of karma. Freya, I'm now singing Culture Club, thanks! As for me - sometimes people's actions have impacts on their future. Sometimes they don't, not in ways that we can see publicly anyway. And sometimes, more often than not I suspect, people who call on karma to take care of people they despise usually do so from the comfort of their own armchairs without any real understanding of the situation. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
9 years ago
I don't believe in Karma, or that things happen for a reason. I think we say that to others and to ourselves to give comfort in situations that happen to us or during scenarios we cant control. We born, we live, we die My own belief system is to be the best person you can be on your journey. Be kind to those that you meet on the way, do not pass judgement until you have lived ones life and be able to look yourself in the mirror at the end of the day and be ok with the person who looks back. That's my simple philosophy and it works for me So to the person who broke into my car last Saturday night causing significant damage and cost to me and pinching a small tin of coin containing like $17 bucks, will karma "get" you ? doubt it. You have to live with yourself and your actions, not me. I'm just glad I'm not like you.
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RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'Huntress108' I do believe in karma & they always come angel in disguise might not get the same treatment or only worst I guess. That's why you should always do good deeds as saying, but everything happens for a reason. One day you're in top of the world next you're under its a life cycle you go through just gotta keep it up & be good. - Posted from rhpmobile So the afore-mentioned child-with-cancer example? What's the reason for that? What bad deeds could that child possibly have done to deserve that? I believe in treating people well and acting with the best of intentions too, but saying that bad things only happen to people who do bad things is a load of horseshit.
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Mischeviouslad
9 years ago
People tend to cite karma as a form of longer trm retribution .... like, "they'll get theirs in the end". Totally misses the point, really.
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RHP User
9 years ago
Truth is, no one knows for sure. - Posted from rhpmobile
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MrMechanic
9 years ago
When we get to the point we are dissecting the content of facestalk posts in here I suggests its a sign things are going the shit. As for Karma, a lot of voodoo dressed up as religion is simply writing made in observance of human nature and used in religion.Karma is real enough, but its just based on statistics and the fact that people who are devious will after so many acts eventually bring themselves undone.It catches up with them because the more recidivist they are the more confident they become in their devious ways and conversely complacent and are less careful, and then its only a matter of time before the give themselves a serious uppercut.They get lazier the more they do it and don't so such a good job of covering their tracks because they've always gotten away with it in the past, eventually it fails, its just statistical probability. Death doesn't mean someone is the victim of Karma, but someone who suffers the fate of Karma may end up dead.There a 1000 ways to die as they say.
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RHP User
9 years ago
I do believe in fate and karma 'sorting things out' in the sense that there is a higher power at play than we mere humans understand. What goes around, comes back around! Peace! - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
9 years ago
Karma is something I've looked at as being about myself rather than other people. .I feel like wishing bad karma on anyone IS bad karma. .And it's not a point scoring system..Peachy
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RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'PeachyPearL' Karma is something I've looked at as being about myself rather than other people. .I feel like wishing bad karma on anyone IS bad karma. .And it's not a point scoring system..Peachy That's exactly the point
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RHP User
9 years ago
From what I've read there is a difference between Buddhist Karma and Hindu Karma (as well as other various religions). The Buddhist definition that I prefer is that "Karma is the will behind all volitional action. Those actions have consequences and you reap what you sow". So put it another way, you are free to do whatever you choose, but you are never free from the consequences of those actions. The problem with "good or bad" Karma is that the notion of good and evil in Buddhism is subject and not universal. From what I've read so far there is only skillful and unskillful action. Hindu Karma is closer to the reference most westerners think of about Karma where I think Lord Vishnu meters out punishment for the things you do and seems more of a mechanism to control peoples actions as well as try to explain random actions that are, well, random. But as the Buddha said, don't believe it just because someone tells you, find out for yourself.
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RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'Probity' When we get to the point we are dissecting the content of facestalk posts in here I suggests its a sign things are going the shit. As for Karma, a lot of voodoo dressed up as religion is simply writing made in observance of human nature and used in religion.Karma is real enough, but its just based on statistics and the fact that people who are devious will after so many acts eventually bring themselves undone.It catches up with them because the more recidivist they are the more confident they become in their devious ways and conversely complacent and are less careful, and then its only a matter of time before the give themselves a serious uppercut.They get lazier the more they do it and don't so such a good job of covering their tracks because they've always gotten away with it in the past, eventually it fails, its just statistical probability. Death doesn't mean someone is the victim of Karma, but someone who suffers the fate of Karma may end up dead.There a 1000 ways to die as they say. You still found it an interesting enough topic to write an entire paragraph on?
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RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'Probity' When we get to the point we are dissecting the content of facestalk posts in here I suggests its a sign things are going the shit. you still commented with a rather lengthy spiel on the topic. As you have been on most topics, despite making it very clear how disdainful you are of these forums and those who contribute to them. You must be very bored at the moment.
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MrMechanic
9 years ago
Quoting 'Keepitsimple72' You still found it an interesting enough topic to write an entire paragraph on? The origin of the topic (FB) has little to do with the topic itself.I made two separate comments on both.
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MrMechanic
9 years ago
Quoting 'Luck_Dragon' Quoting 'Probity' When we get to the point we are dissecting the content of facestalk posts in here I suggests its a sign things are going the shit. you still commented with a rather lengthy spiel on the topic. As you have been on most topics, despite making it very clear how disdainful you are of these forums and those who contribute to them. You must be very bored at the moment. Quoting what you said "despite making it very clear how disdainful you are of these forums and those who contribute to them" I never said that, nor inferred it in anyway and for you to suggest I did is simply mischievous of you.So is there something you'd like the get off your chest. ?
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RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'Probity' Quoting 'Keepitsimple72' You still found it an interesting enough topic to write an entire paragraph on? The origin of the topic (FB) has little to do with the topic itself.I made two separate comments on both. Either a topic is worthy of discussion or it isn't. Whether I see it on facebook or read it in The Times, it's irrelevant if it's interesting to people and generates discussion. Scoffing at the source while still finding the topic discussion worthy smacks of snobbery in my opinion.
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RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'Probity' I never said that, nor inferred it in anyway and for you to suggest I did is simply mischievous of you.So is there something you'd like the get off your chest. ? You've been inferring it in many of your comments since you started posting here, and insulting the OP's inspiration for this topic was just another in a long line.
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Mischeviouslad
9 years ago
Ignore it and hopefully the lack of attention it seeks will make it go away.
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MrMechanic
9 years ago
Quoting 'Luck_Dragon' Quoting 'Probity' I never said that, nor inferred it in anyway and for you to suggest I did is simply mischievous of you.So is there something you'd like the get off your chest. ? You've been inferring it in many of your comments since you started posting here, and insulting the OP's inspiration for this topic was just another in a long line. Again nothing of the sort, you're just being dishonestly mischievous.
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MrMechanic
9 years ago
Quoting 'Keepitsimple72' Quoting 'Probity' Quoting 'Keepitsimple72' You still found it an interesting enough topic to write an entire paragraph on? The origin of the topic (FB) has little to do with the topic itself.I made two separate comments on both. Either a topic is worthy of discussion or it isn't. Whether I see it on facebook or read it in The Times, it's irrelevant if it's interesting to people and generates discussion. Scoffing at the source while still finding the topic discussion worthy smacks of snobbery in my opinion. That's right, 2 separate comments, one about facestalk that had nothing to so with the topic of Karma I choose to post about..In if I want to comment on both in one post I don't have to explain why to you or anyone else's. okey dokey.
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MrMechanic
9 years ago
Quoting 'Mischeviouslad' Ignore it and hopefully the lack of attention it seeks will make it go away. Who was that cheap shot directed at ?
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RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'Kokoflamingo' I used to believe the myth about karma. I still believe that certain things in our lives were meant to happen but if someone does something bad to me I learn from it and move on. Lifes too short to be bitter is something Ive come to realise lately. well said...although knowing that truth and living by it is too separate things...i try my hardest to learn from a lesson and move on...but i often find myself stuck:(
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RHP User
9 years ago
Is that the energy you put into the world, will surround you. So when I'm happy, energetic and smiling, people smile, I laugh a lot and achieve many things. If I'm grumpy when feeling low my day drags, I bump my head and crash into shit. I have to work harder on these days to be happy, but my positivity always gets me through the day! I do agree that karma is a personal thing. What other people do cannot affect my karma, nor I theirs. Only I control how I feel, how I react, and my happiness. KIS I understand your question about cancer kids. I guess my only suggestion is to do what you can to help without dwelling on the why. There will always be sadness in our world, letting it define you is just plain silly.
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RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'Luck_Dragon' People saying things like ''karma will get them'' annoys me as well, as it just doesn't happen that way. My theory is that (most) humans don't deal well with things they don't understand, and they have a need to believe that there is some type of order and 'justice' in the world. They need to believe that it's not all just a crapshoot with good and bad things happening randomly to anyone, anytime, regardless of the type of person they are. I think people misuse the concept of karma almost as a survival mechanism....as a way to try and make sense in their minds out of what is often a very nonsensical and cruel world.
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AnnieJames
9 years ago
Quoting 'ChiChi05' I don't believe in Karma, or that things happen for a reason. I think we say that to others and to ourselves to give comfort in situations that happen to us or during scenarios we cant control. We born, we live, we die My own belief system is to be the best person you can be on your journey. Be kind to those that you meet on the way, do not pass judgement until you have lived ones life and be able to look yourself in the mirror at the end of the day and be ok with the person who looks back. That's my simple philosophy and it works for me So to the person who broke into my car last Saturday night causing significant damage and cost to me and pinching a small tin of coin containing like $17 bucks, will karma "get" you ? doubt it. You have to live with yourself and your actions, not me. I'm just glad I'm not like you.
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