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May 09 2017

Why do so many forum topics degenerate into such nastiness? What motivates this kind of behaviour? Why is it that some of us can't accept that there will always be people who hold views that are contrary to their own? Let alone realise that differing views are not necessarily a bad thing? Maybe RHP should offer anger therapy???

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  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    it's not that I mind people having different views, its just that their views are inherently wrong and must be cleansed with fire.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    Quoting 'S_OnTheLoose' it's not that I mind people having different views, its just that their views are inherently wrong and must be cleansed with fire. Calling all the RHP Firemen with their big hoses to assist putting those hot flames out....

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    I think Sheriff Quick Draw McGraw and his Deputy Baba Looey might come in handy to take control of the situation or try to mediate with the people...well maybe.... and to direct the RHP Firemen with their hoses.....

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    Not going to bite.... ;) Just sit back and wait and watch.... :) KH

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    Bring it on I say. Just imagine how boring it would be without intense emotion and real feelings. I love a good spat lol even more when it's not me, which is rare 😄

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    I'd never have my phone ten paces away, it's glued to my hand 😘📱

  • AnnieWhichway

    AnnieWhichway

    8 years ago

    And if I singled you out and hinted your views were pretty much fucked up, your personality was narcissistic. And you had no empathy for anyone, what are going to do? Wish em a happy day...........

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    Opinions are like orgasms, mine are important, and I don't care if you have one Ok, I'm kidding (ish), just heard this line recently and have been waiting for a time to use it. I have stuff to actually say on this, but this thread looks like it might go wonky, wonder if I my fingering of buttons would be worthwhile.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    I actually think wishing an antagonist a good day would be a good thing (plus be beneficial for my empathy deficit). :)

  • inspirit

    inspirit

    8 years ago

    Not that I to do much of that..... Because some people can't express their views without coming across as twatzillas. (In written form) I've been known to take things out of context in the past. I tend to think we all do at times. Oh shit, I just thinked.... Oops. It is hard to express oneself in written form. There are positive ways to write such as not using the words should or but...... IMO. However, I think the the only motivation behind a person's nastiness towards another, is deep seated demons. .....and some days people are just having a bad day and unintentionally take it out on others. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • inspirit

    inspirit

    8 years ago

    You demon you. 😜 - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    Some posters could take the statement 'the sky is blue' and turn it into a political statement against everyone of their core beliefs and let fly. As I mentioned in another thread I go with Voltaires 'I disagree with what you say, but will defend to the death your right to say it'. Unfortunately generation Snowflakes 'there's an offence under every word' has been taken up by those who you'd hope would be at an age to be more pragmatic and accepting of different viewpoints. Threads where they don't involve a personal attack by the end of the second page would make a nice change of pace. Some stepping away from the keyboard / phone instead of digging by other posters by name wouldn't kill anyone and would make it better for all of us who don't so many threads derailed. [/End lecture] - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    if you feel you must, go ahead 😜

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    With reference some threads, It's hardly need said, But I'll say nonetheless, By the deeds of gormless, Free speech cops a knock on the head.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    It might be considered, If unmolested or hindered, Fair speech and discussion, Needs no repercussion, That ever sees threads rescinded.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    Often they'll say, That crime doesn't pay, Yet it doesn't make sense, Between pillar and fence - There's no post at the end of the day.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    I could easily go on (If not set upon), By limerick indeed - As much as I need, 'til the sun and the cows they be gone!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    From the paddocks the bovine, Will know the right time, 'Cause those of that ilk, Know when to milk, At home they will be - divine.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    And the sun you will see, At night it does flee, And if I am wrong, I'm sure it not long, 'Til censure of posts by me.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    Has anyone been watching real housewives of Sydney? OMFG is all I can say, but there are similarities to here. Real singles of RHP. 😂

  • DynamicCouple36

    DynamicCouple36

    8 years ago

    Is that things can easily be taken out of context / one can misinterpret what's written, and not be certain if it was sarcastic, serious or just tongue in cheek. One can't see the emotion behind the writer. Add insecurity, jealousy, egos (and a whole lot of other human traits) to the mix, one one is potentially playing with fire. The "cyberworld" of social media is rife with it We have seen it within the chatrooms of this site and other swingers sites, the chatrooms of vanilla sites (remember IRC?) going way back to 1996/7 (when we first started chatting using MIRC) and on many FaceBook pages, and any "cyber platform" where a large mixture of people (and cyber warriors) with different backgrounds, upbringings, values, attitudes,beliefs and opinions are to be found. Not to mention keyboard warriors. We have a stalker on here (the male of an alleged couple) who we blocked years ago. He has been banned for posting in these forum posts. Despite this, he appears to be obsessed with our posts and spends a lot of time "collecting" them, and compiling them into an electronic dossier of sorts, to be used to fuel his obsession, hatred of, and anger towards us. Perhaps because we have an opinion different to his. Perhaps because we air our opinions openly in a politically incorrect manner (call a spade a spade ), perhaps because we were not interested in swapping nude pics .... we just can't be sure what tipped the apple cart. We don't even know how to search back and find all our old posts on here, but said stalker certainly does, and we have been told that he often copies & pastes (with a little editing) some of our past posts, into some groups on a popular social media platform. A few regular posters on these RHP forums belong to some of the same groups we are referring to, they use the social media platform as an opportunity to moan, bitch about , back bite & stab, many of the "formites" on here, as on the other platform there is no moderation of posts like on here. Where are we going with this long winded post? We believe that these social media platforms bring out the keyboard warriors in all of us. It's so easy to vent and express ones opinion, in the heat of the moment. There are many angry, insecure & frustrated people out there. They have a need to join secret pages (on the well known social media platform) and continue to sow their hatred, anger & ultimately their poison. We have a good laugh at it, as in all sincerity, it's a make believe world and the reality of our real lives are very different to the personas & profiles portrayed on these sites. Males posing as couples posing as females are just one example. The trick is to just shrug ones shoulders, laugh at it , like water off a ducks back. We have done so with our "cyber stalker", who clearly has mental health & obsession problems. He can only try to get at us, through these sites, and so we laugh it off. It's not real and has no real life , physical or tangible bearing on our day to day living. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    ''If you haven’t anything nice to say about anyone, come sit by me.'' These words have been credited to Alice Roosevelt Longworth who was the daughter of President Teddy Roosevelt and a long-time Washington socialite known for adroit remarks. So old axiomatic sayings are timeless.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    The Backfire Effect (google it) - people feel very threatened by facts and beliefs that differ to what they believe and react accordingly Clashes of strong personalities Misunderstandings Mob mentality Relative safety and anonymity of insulting / abusing someone over the internet Narcissism People having a bad day Personal vendettas The fact that many regular posters know each other in real life which spills out on the forum in both good and bad ways etc. etc. etc.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    When shown a reflection, A hypocrite's perplexion, We ought not confuse, Their foot-stamping abuse, With feelings of compunction.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    A knot in the panty, A rollicking tanty, Amusing it is, To see what a tizz, Thread censure a flight of fancy.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    Yes, all of that, and coffee, not enough coffee for me is danger Will Robinson 😊 Actually the forum is quiet this morning, except for me of course, chatting away to myself 😏

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    Most of us are attention whores, me included. And there are multitudinous ways of generating that attention, trolling, faux offence, extreme pc, over sensitivity, know all syndome, Napoleon complexes and of course my speciality, bitterness and entitlement ! And let's not forget the experts where "x" is the unknown factor and "spurt" is a drip under pressure. I have decided to do my best not to engage in this crap, I will contribute to "serious" topics while they stay on point otherwise it's just wisecracks and the odd like. Ok, to be brutally honest I just find any gender discussion here pointless unless you agree with everything from the female perspective, any male viewpoint is just shouted down and discredited with the usual slogans and catchcrys. So no more from me.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    The safe anonymous place where people can say things to one another that they'd never dare say face to face. A cowards paradise - Posted from rhpmobile

  • DynamicCouple36

    DynamicCouple36

    8 years ago

    We do agree with what you have written . Makes good sense. :) - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    With comments so snide, Pers'nalities collide With a bang and a flash, Posts turn to ash For retort that the first can't abide.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    A delicate petal When tested of mettle Will shrink and retreat; Can't think on her feet, Incapable of sound rebuttal.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    How many ways Via lim'rick forays Can one demonstrate The pace and the rate? This game is fun that I plays!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    If I could care less, Might I confess, Despite filth and muck, I don't give a fuck, But I'd rather employ finesse.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    OK touch, I will.. ;) I think it's a case of a little bit of this, a little bit of that, a little be of the other, a little bit of .. I have no clue. But some of my thoughts Self-control - often people have had to keep it together for work, friends, family, etc., and then by the time they get onto Pie, it's all gone, so don't have a much of a control switch left Frustrations - This site can irk people out in their attempts to connect, the forums are a place to vent those frustrations Anonymity - some people don't know, don't have to know, the people on the other side. So venting at them has lil impact on themselves Tone - we lose a lot in text, and it is easier to be misinterpreted, or fail to really take time to work out what someone means Narrowness - of our view of others. Some here know a lot about other people, and can see where and why someone has acted the way they have. Others don't. Easy to see Person - Behaviour, and lay that behaviour squarely on the person, rather than on the backdrop of what is going on for that person. Empathy - maybe some just lack it. Or have filled their quota by other aspects of life Threats - people see questioning or debate about their point of view as a threat, and will flight (skedaddle) or fight (booyah, let's have an all in) Box - maybe some people find themselves typecast, eg as the outcast, the person who stirs the pot, the whatever, then feel they need to behave in a way that aligns themselves with that view. Blah - some people just genuinely dislike another poster, or a few others, and will never seen any positivity in their posts, but joyfully jump on any slight difficulty, or issue with that post. So it just creates a cycle of negativity. Self-awareness - or should I say lack of. Meh - some people just troll, because they so trolly

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    Thanks, but I meant your erotic reference to fingering your keyboard 😊 Does it for me, you should hold classes and teach guys how to do that 😍

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    Nods for your comment as well, I can identify with most of those lol 😀

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    Well fuck me, touch. That just illustrates at least one of my points. Inability to understand what another is talking about. Derp. I'd be worried if I was erotically rubbing my buttons in this thread. I'm a lil bit of a monster, but not that kind of monster. PS. I write my smut elsewhere, and as I said in another thread, I sometimes lack an ability to communicate well, so wouldhave to resort to interpretive dance. Shall I try to teach others, with this method? I'd need some serious tequila action to do that.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    I feel people think a bit too personal at times. I do love the differing opinions, ideas and conversations but I want to abuse sometimes when I see it getting personal. Last time I was here I loved being involved in the forums but had to leave the site as at times they become a breeding ground for hatred against what others believe and get ridiculously nasty considering it is just words and only that. I try to keep my humour and certain comments light as I know someone will take it the wrong way. Love to stir the pot usually but I se enough of that is going on without me joining in. Cheers and good topic. Wonder how long it will last without a shit storm

  • inspirit

    inspirit

    8 years ago

    Are you not studying stuff. 😂 - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    Quoting 'inspirit' Are you not studying stuff. 😂 - Posted from rhpmobile As to my study, The water's not muddy. I shall resume action With little distraction Ensuring my marks are not cruddy.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    ...I blame it on the wine. ''Red red wine you make me feel so fineYou keep me rocking all of the timeRed red wine you make me feel so grandI feel a million dollars when you're just in my hand'' That's the reason I'm sticking to...as to why I prefer good Scotch!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    Ppl associate a differing opinion as that person saying they are wrong. But, fail to see there are many views...none necessarily right or wrong, just different. Also, some ppl need to remember to respond rather than react. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    Keyboard Warriors - Cause talking crap in person is far too dangerous!!!!! :))

  • MsJonesy

    MsJonesy

    8 years ago

    Around full moon 🤔

  • MsJonesy

    MsJonesy

    8 years ago

    Around full moon 🤔

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    Had some dangerous situations in life have you mate? 😃

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    For my use of lim'rick, Reputation might stick. So don't indicate 'Likes', Lest the haters bear Pikes And associate you with a prick!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    I have this written under religious beliefs on Facebook, but it's quite relevant to this thread... Everyone else has the right to hold my beliefs. If you believe otherwise, I respect your right to be wrong. :p - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    I shouldn't have started, but... For newbies they probably don't really understand why so many topics go all wobbly, and why some formites react so ... reactive ,to other posters, and posts. So, probably should add History - some posters have been around for ... a far while, so there is a big back story. I couldn't even guess at some of the stuff that has gone on. But that history impacts how people react to other forumites today. Glimpse - What happens in messages, at meets, with friends, with lovers fucking other forumites, and just general fuck ups., etc., etc., it can spill onto the forums. Again, it can look way out of proportion to people who don't have any clue what is going on. But, the forums can be a mere glimpse into the back story Pfft - some people seem to only feel good about themselves when they point out the faults and fragilities of others. Probably a few 'positive' types that seem to only point out 'negatives' in others - which just looks a bit naff, and then they get called on it, then point even harder at the negative. So everyone just jumps on a big negative pointy thingy. Point / Point back / OMG POINT / OMG POINT AND STABBY IN THE EYE (or back). Or something like that. (I've bored myself now - I'll skedaddle)

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    Quoting 'PepperRose' History - some posters have been around for ... a far while, so there is a big back story. I couldn't even guess at some of the stuff that has gone on. But that history impacts how people react to other forumites today. when I first started posting on here, and I was so confused at some of the interactions that went on between people who obviously had significant history, be that good or bad. Now here I am almost 5 years later and I'm one of those posters with history, both good and bad. I really do have a love hate relationship with this forum. I've learned so much over the years, and met some absolutely wonderful people through it, people I am so happy to be able to call friends. But....it can also be a toxic place and if you're not careful you can get so caught up in negative crap, then you look back later and wonder why the hell you thought that was so important and worth getting into an argument over. I know very well the type of personality I have, and although I've become somewhat better at managing my interactions on here over the years, I still sometimes slip back into old habits and let the side of me with the quick temper and reactive impulsivity get the better of me. I generally know that on the days when I'm having a shitty time of it and am pissed off with the world, that I should stay away from the forum, but again I'm not always one for doing what I know I should and so my 'get me into trouble' brain ends up posting something that normally my 'nope don't even go there' brain would stop me from posting. I know that even just my normal posting style can come across as rather blunt, and my straightforward way of saying what I think can just rub people the wrong way. I'm not one for using flowery language to try and sugar coat what I say, and I have a love of sarcasm and satire that I think gets lost in translation quite often. All of that, together with my general opinions and views (the whole lefty SJW thing), has meant I've clashed with lots of people in my time here. I've been thinking about all of this, and have realised that although there's always positives and negatives for me about this place, at the moment the negatives are outweighing the positives. So, I'm restricting my posting to nice, safe topics which shouldn't go south and get canned (although on here you can never be too sure ;-) ) There have been quite a few of these 'why do so many topics end up in shitfights?' discussions on here over the years. I think we've seen that there's lots of reasons for it and in the end you'll never completely stop the arguments and clashes, humans are too complicated and, well, human for that. If anything there seem to be cycles...everything will be pretty peaceful for awhile, then all hell will break loose, then a topic like this gets posted and everyone calms down, back to peace, and on it goes. I think the key for individuals is to know when you need a break and to step away from the keyboard, I know that's what I'm still working on. Just remind yourself that it's not worth getting too tangled up in the webs on here (unless they are the nice kind of webs with friendly fellow spiders).

  • Lovinit28andKC72

    Lovinit28andKC72

    8 years ago

    Most humans are arseholes, I think animals are much nicer, but they can't type now can they...🤔

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    Quoting 'Lovinit28andKC72' Most humans are arseholes, I think animals are much nicer, but they can't type now can they...🤔 I understand what you are saying, coming here from a single man with dog :) (Other vacancies still exist of course!) Although in his early years, his more misbehaving years if you will, when he had chewed up certain things of value, I learnt the valuable life lesson that you can be angry and frustrated with someone/something and still love them. As long as you take ownership of your own emotions. Dogs are just being dogs, they don't do anything to deliberately antagonise you, unlike humans :P But I understand how people may end up being crazy cat ladies, or crazy errr... dog gentlemen? P.S. I tried to get my dog to type, but he just wrote jmfgoet5uy89vn ; oiklmnf4;hf4. I'll translate that as "woof".

  • precious142

    precious142

    8 years ago

    Quoting 'rubi_rose' Quoting 'S_OnTheLoose' it's not that I mind people having different views, its just that their views are inherently wrong and must be cleansed with fire. Calling all the RHP Firemen with their big hoses to assist putting those hot flames out.... That the RHP firemen are on duty......the forums seem to be a hidey hole for many pyromaniacs, who love to sit back after striking a light and watch their handiwork take over the room....... And to those posters who are having a bad day - go open a bottle of wine or take a zanox... It is NOT ok to unload your nastiness on here in the guise of a "bad day"..... I personally have met quite a few RHPers who are too scared to make any comment in here, and others who used to post but now choose to stay clear of the forums because of all the nasty crap that they have copped previously Very sad....and not a good look for RHP either. Just sayin'.......

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    Some love to play the victim, but troll and muck stir when it suits them 😉 I on the other hand, enjoy the good, the bad and the ugly 😁 Who cares if it's not perfect peaches and cream, rainbows and moonbeams, cream coloured ponies and crisp apple streudels 😋

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    Fuck it, say what you want to say, when you want to say it, continue to post with passion and conviction 👍

  • PurePeony

    PurePeony

    8 years ago

    ..., being harmonious and agreeable, and the ability to live and let live / turn a blind eye when things don't go one's way, are qualities I admire. Most of the time, more male posters here tend to be objective and sadly, sometimes they get rudely and viciously attacked. Bloody senseless, all this hatred and vitriol! Generally, when someone says something you disagree with, one's reaction is an indicator of how balanced and centered one is. Does it really matter if someone has extreme rightist ideals whilst one is an extreme leftist or vice versa? We might not love someone else's stand or opinions, but there truly is no need to go for the jugular and put the person in a tight spot and create hatred amongst those directly involved and more get involved when they jump to their friend's aid. That's why I am determined to stay somewhat aloof because I resent the herd mentality and how clique-ish it gets in here. If there's that much energy and dogged determination, then it's best to work it off with some meaningful and rewarding physical activity like hmm.. SEX! =D Caesar Milan, the dog whisperer, cleverly encouraged dog owners to increase the activities of their hyperactive and destructive dogs, let them wear out their excess energy, and they'd have no more energy left to get into any mischief. Perhaps, combative and highly aggressive humans should follow the same recommendation - work off the high-strung energy! More sex! Hooray! What's really infantile is the business of running off to the nanny... oops, I meant Moderators, whenever someone encounters a post they dislike too much for their fragile hearts to bear. Or when someone takes it out on their target, and things get nasty and they decide to get a thread deleted. Seriously, if someone has written something nasty, leave it there for posterity to see! If you dare say it, then show the same courage in standing by what you've said! I've found this forum to have quite a few quarrelsome characters and I shall never forget how insolent a handful were towards me. I am weird, eccentric and funny sometimes IRL, and when I joked in here, I was accused of all sorts of nasty things and called nasty names. Seriously, who is anyone to impose their lofty views on others in here?! And to ridicule others? That's a truly low blow and very crass. And because they have a tight -arsed sense of humor and their panties are always in a knot doesn't mean that the rest of us are like that. Some folks here are so far removed from the level-headedness and sensibilities of the norm that they can only bask in their glorious identities and online personas. You can bet your bottom dollar that people who are truly happy usually don't bother to put others down or make them feel uneasy. They will derive pleasure from seeing other people happy as well. And the truly wise folks will always pick their battles and learn to look away and not take offence so easily. Volatile people won't go far in life because they'll offend more than appease; be fiery rather than reconciliatory; and burn bridges more than build bridges.

  • Seachange

    Seachange

    8 years ago

    Well said.

  • On_Safari

    On_Safari

    8 years ago

    Abound here and some really should "step away from the keyboard" and let others get a word in. Agree with much of what LD, Pepper and a few others have said. A healthy dose of debate is fine, when it deteriorates to name calling and outright nastiness perhaps that person should "rescue some wine from a bottle", kick back and concentrate on what's making them feel shitty and fix that. You're right Precious, many invariably do take vacations from posting or the site entirely....usually because of the tedious regularity here where things turn to shit. Still....there's an undeniable allure to this place or maybe it's the friendships forged from the fire that keep making you come back? S if you use your hose on me there could be trouble x and twisted I am not a feminist please don't tar all women even in jest with that brush ~ Indy

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    I posted about this recently and copped some flak but thats exactly what I expected. I think when some of the newbies post that we should remember we were all new once. I enjoy reading the forums but enjoyable stops when it starts getting nasty. Swearing doesnt look cool either. I stepped out because I felt myself getting drawn into the cycle of having a dig and trying to " get one up" in replies. I still like reading the forums but as soon as the crap starts I skip over to another post. Victim...nope, but some are victims of their own egos. It would be nice to have some tolerance for new and naive posters instead of shooting them down in flames.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    Quoting 'I_touch_myself2' Some love to play the victim, but troll and muck stir when it suits them 😉 I on the other hand, enjoy the good, the bad and the ugly 😁 Who cares if it's not perfect peaches and cream, rainbows and moonbeams, cream coloured ponies and crisp apple streudels 😋 What you said *love the visuals you created with your rainbows and ponies

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    Thanks touch :) Actually, your other comment did make a good point. Some heated debate and discussion isn't always a bad thing...if everyone thought the same it would be pretty batshit boring on here. I know I've actually learned things from taking part in and just reading some of the more heated discussions on here. It's when it gets really personal, when people post comments solely to get a negative reaction, and when all the factional fighting of this group against that group takes over, that it gets ugly and ridiculous. And yep, I've been involved in it and it's another thing I'm trying to stop myself doing, because in the end it's childish and pointless. There are people on here that don't like me, and whom I don't like, and that's fine. I'm happy to ignore them and would hope that they would be able to exercise some self-restraint and self insight into their own behaviour, and be mature enough to do the same. Nobody else on here is interested in or wants to hear about that one or two or five year old grudge that we might be holding against someone or some other group of people (well, ok, some are probably interested, popcorn and all that lol).

  • MsJonesy

    MsJonesy

    8 years ago

    Whether the clique brand which is sometimes slavishly applied is somewhat overdone. Is it not normal for there to be a group of people with the same views, just as it is normal for there to be a groip with an opposing view? Yes, the views can be articulated with vigour, bit it doesn't necessarily mean there is a clique at work.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    I definitely agree, I think people do get too caught up in the fact that there are groups of posters on here who share many of the same views and opinions. There are accusations of a 'pile on' etc., which are often unwarranted. Also, the accusations can be used as another means of being able to discount and delegitimise others' arguments. Humans are very good at doing mental gymnastics to find any way of proving to themselves that they are right and others are wrong (it's actually rarely that black and white but again the human brain is often not great with grey areas and ambiguity). It's when it moves from legitimate debate / voicing of opinions and facts / presenting arguments in a reasoned manner, to the slinging of insults and people having a go at others purely because of personal feelings, that I feel it becomes a problem.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    Quoting 'MsJonesy' Whether the clique brand which is sometimes slavishly applied is somewhat overdone. Is it not normal for there to be a group of people with the same views, just as it is normal for there to be a groip with an opposing view? Yes, the views can be articulated with vigour, bit it doesn't necessarily mean there is a clique at work. I think the perception of cliques arises due to occasions where it appears the matter at hand is not being discussed on it's own merits. Rather, it sometimes appears people with established friendships band together in defence of a position based on the personality(ies) involved. Specifically, usually when threads have derailed, it appears someone has either: - misread/misunderstood another's post; and/or - applied false/defective logic to the issue (including hypocrisy and sophistry); and/or - introduced errors of fact; and/or - has shifted from discussion of the issue itself to focus on attributes of the person/people with an opposing view. Some fail to recognise that to point out the flaws in an argued/debated position is not/ need not be viewed as a personal attack. It might instead be recognised as opportunity to refocus one's thinking more carefully on the actual topic and implications being discussed, thereby avoiding complete derailment. I do consciously try not to engage in personal attack (I will literally "give as good as I get"), but on occasion I have been goaded to a response that my provocateur(s) couldn't handle. There are times I have adopted a "push me - shove you" response; preferring to employ wit where possible. An appeal to savoir faire In order to clear the air; A gentle mnemonic - Perhaps it's demonic To ask "Can't you read? It's just there!"

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    Yes I agree, re fragile egos 😉

  • Seachange

    Seachange

    8 years ago

    😄

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    Copy and Paste from Google, Peachy How many forum members does it take to change a light bulb? 1 to change the light bulb and to post that the light bulb has been changed 14 to share similar experiences of changing light bulbs and how the light bulb could have been changed differently 7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs 1 to move it to the Lighting section 2 to argue then move it to the Electricals section 7 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about changing light bulbs 5 to flame the spell checkers 3 to correct spelling/grammar flames 6 to argue over whether it’s “lightbulb” or “light bulb” … another 6 to condemn those 6 as stupid 2 industry professionals to inform the group that the proper term is “lamp” 15 know-it-alls who claim they were in the industry, and that “light bulb” is perfectly correct 19 to post that this forum is not about light bulbs and to please take this discussion to a lightbulb forum 11 to defend the posting to this forum saying that we all use light bulbs and therefore the posts are relevant to this forum 36 to debate which method of changing light bulbs is superior, where to buy the best light bulbs, what brand of light bulbs work best for this technique and what brands are faulty 7 to post URL’s where one can see examples of different light bulbs 4 to post that the URL’s were posted incorrectly and then post the corrected URL’s 3 to post about links they found from the URL’s that are relevant to this group which makes light bulbs relevant to this group 13 to link all posts to date, quote them in their entirety including all headers and signatures, and add “Me too” 5 to post to the group that they will no longer post because they cannot handle the light bulb controversy 4 to say “didn’t we go through this already a short time ago?” 13 to say “do a Google search on light bulbs before posting questions about light bulbs” 1 forum lurker to respond to the original post 6 months from now and start it all over again. Absolutely spot on and true. Anyone who has been on any kind of forum/discussion board must have seen this before! Cat

  • Seachange

    Seachange

    8 years ago

    So funny. Thanks. Haha 😂

  • MsJonesy

    MsJonesy

    8 years ago

    But what about the 5 who claim the light bulb didn't want to be changed and how dare everyone else enforce their will on it 😂

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    MsJonesy, I can only imagine the expansions that could be committed on this awesome piece of writing by the mind guild of the RHP Fora. Lily. Hugs, Peachy

  • luvsilver

    luvsilver

    8 years ago

    We have been on RHP for quite some time.While I read the forums most days ,I (Mr Luvsilver) am generally the one that does the posting.There are two reasons for this.1) I am on RHP more than Mrs Luv2) Mrs luv is a very passionate person with things she either loves or believes in.A few years ago there was a thread on that involved one of her strong passions.There was a lot of heated debate going on(which is fine) but also some very pore attitudes to other peoples and there beliefs. Mrs Luv was stewing over some of the comments for a week and was really frustrated and a little upset. She has since kept away from the forums mostly .In regards to me.I am the type of person that doesn't really rock any boats be it in here or real life. Happy to have a drink in the back ground and watch the fire works rather than be the one trying to light them.So I do throw the odd comment in but I am a lover not a fighter-lol Mr Luvsilver

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    There is this perception that they have sex all the time, that they are like nymphomaniacs...............and then there is nothing much but talk......talk......dribble........dribble......sleep...sleep. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • OkeyDoke45

    OkeyDoke45

    8 years ago

    As mentioned by other posters here, I swore off the forums here about a month ago (oh yeah, that worked out well!)as I was tired of witnessing the same people forming into some kind of mob. I would actually go so far as to call them trolls - always under the bridge, always on guard, their noses turned to the air for anything offensive. Eventually, some poor sap (usually a bloke) posts something that is just what the offense/offence-seekers were looking for, and they're off. Usually the same culprits, and there they go, hacking and slashing. Other posters here deny that this occurs, but those same posters are actually members of said cabal, which I find quite amusing. I would say that most disputes on here arise along gender lines. There are some posts that probably are asking for it, but most aren't - they are simple errors of syntax or youthful/inexperienced ignorance. I swore off these forums after seeing a couple turn into an SJW orgy of thought-cleansing. One poor young dolt posted a topic on here asking what the go was with everything and how it all worked. He used three ill-advised words (which I won't repeat) and the earth was apparently tilted on its' axis. The ''how dare you'' carpet-bombing began. There were some that pointed out his bad choice of words gently, but most responses questioned the OP's validity as a human being. The overall tone of his question was innocent, but there were those three words. And that, apparently, is all that is required. I myself blundered into the pit of gnashing teeth about a year ago, when I dared to call RHP a sex site (which I still maintain that it is, by the way). There are some (and only some) on here that consider themselves some kind of moral arbiter, they have the final say and word and they will stop at nothing, including allegations of racism, to ensure that everyone here thinks and speaks as they wish them to. As others here have stated, some members are afraid to post here for fear of saying ''the wrong thing', but I would say to those people ''So what if you do? You may or may not have said something silly, or just something they don't like, but so? You don't have to apologize. What's the worst they can do?".

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    Quoting 'OkeyDoke45' As mentioned by other posters here, I swore off the forums here about a month ago (oh yeah, that worked out well!)as I was tired of witnessing the same people forming into some kind of mob. I would actually go so far as to call them trolls - always under the bridge, always on guard, their noses turned to the air for anything offensive. Eventually, some poor sap (usually a bloke) posts something that is just what the offense/offence-seekers were looking for, and they're off. Usually the same culprits, and there they go, hacking and slashing. Other posters here deny that this occurs, but those same posters are actually members of said cabal, which I find quite amusing. I would say that most disputes on here arise along gender lines. There are some posts that probably are asking for it, but most aren't - they are simple errors of syntax or youthful/inexperienced ignorance. I swore off these forums after seeing a couple turn into an SJW orgy of thought-cleansing. One poor young dolt posted a topic on here asking what the go was with everything and how it all worked. He used three ill-advised words (which I won't repeat) and the earth was apparently tilted on its' axis. The ''how dare you'' carpet-bombing began. There were some that pointed out his bad choice of words gently, but most responses questioned the OP's validity as a human being. The overall tone of his question was innocent, but there were those three words. And that, apparently, is all that is required. I myself blundered into the pit of gnashing teeth about a year ago, when I dared to call RHP a sex site (which I still maintain that it is, by the way). There are some (and only some) on here that consider themselves some kind of moral arbiter, they have the final say and word and they will stop at nothing, including allegations of racism, to ensure that everyone here thinks and speaks as they wish them to. As others here have stated, some members are afraid to post here for fear of saying ''the wrong thing', but I would say to those people ''So what if you do? You may or may not have said something silly, or just something they don't like, but so? You don't have to apologize. What's the worst they can do?". That is disturbingly accurate.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    Quoting 'OkeyDoke45' As mentioned by other posters here, I swore off the forums here about a month ago (oh yeah, that worked out well!)as I was tired of witnessing the same people forming into some kind of mob.ugh, that's exactly the sort of post I'd expect from someone with a display picture like THAT

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    I have half a dozen of so old keyboards here... free fro tossing... does that give me advantage?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    Quoting 'Mstr_Full' I have half a dozen of so old keyboards here... free fro tossing... does that give me advantage? I have a brilliant idea, we get your keyboards and hand them to forumites separated by the obligatory 10 paces, and let 'em rip! They have to stay at 10 paces apart though... I'm not sure they could handle that... Peachy

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    No, that'd be torture 😖 Be fun though wouldn't it? Tied to a chair with the keyboard 10 paces away, able to read forum posts but not comment 😧 I'm feeling hot and clammy, the withdrawal would be hell 😂😂😂

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    I have issues! But I think you're missing is that the keyboards wil be in your hands Touch. It is only your bodies that are 10 paces apart! It's an old Western thing. But hey, any way I can make you feel hot and clammy... Peachy

  • RHP

    RHP User

    7 years ago

    You can almost guarantee the trending topics that are getting lots of responses are people having a go at each other :-( It's fucking annoying starting to read an interesting thread and then someone reads too much into a response, someone takes something too seriously, someone gets offended by something minor, and it all degenerates into people saying things they'd never have the guts to say in person. Lighten up people! Everyone has an opinion, and if it doesn't match with yours, accept it and move on!!! Just because not everyone thinks the same as you doesn't mean they are wrong :-) Peace!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    7 years ago

    Things can and do get out of hand, but don't you think it would be a tad boring and generic without emotion? Even following heated exchanges with people, when the dust settles, it's all good. We are going to get intense with our opinions and interactions, yes it can spiral out of control, which is when the mods step in, but debate, heated or not, is healthy IMO I think people get a bit self righteous and expect perfect behavior all the time, not meaning you, I really like your and enjoy reading your comments. I don't expect people close to me to be perfect all the time, nor people on here, or myself for that matter. As humans, we have a license to fail on occasion or not so much fail, but just be human. As long as we have the ability to learn and grow from our interactions, pick up the pieces and move forward and not carry ongoing baggage, sorry can't think of a better word, then for me anyway, I find it interesting and fun. I like it atm I think there's a good mix of people, good cross section of people from all walks of life, lots of new posters 👍 If I scare anyone lol I'm really a big softy 😉 not as tough as I make out 😇