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Ladies, How Important Is It

June 24 2015

to receive orgasm through intercourse? I ask this question after reading some current posts about the use of condoms. Obviously for the vast majority of women 'it's not on if it's not on.' Now, if your male partner does the right thing and wears one but finds he is unable to keep his erection, would you be happy to achieve orgasm another way without penetration, or if he can't slip it in, is the game over? As this is a real problem for some men, trite diagnosies and prognosies from backporch psychologists are not needed.

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  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    its not a race , but i dont play the game to come second 😝 - Posted from rhpmobile

  • AnnieWhichway

    AnnieWhichway

    9 years ago

    Auntie Annie signing off and going off to my couch which happens to be on my back porch. Pffft....

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    They're two different questions, OP. Do I think it's important to receive orgasm through intercourse? No, and I don't always come from just intercourse anyway. As a matter of fact, sex can be just as satisfying for me if I don't come at all. Is it important for me to be fucked? Absolutely. I'll go without if there's a reason to, but it'll be grudgingly. I just don't find sex as satisfying if I don't get to have a cock (or two :-p) inside me. Just my thoughts.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Reminds me of an article in the paper on the weekend, titled "Getting on and still getting it on: a guide to older singles, dating and sex", and quote: "with men in their 50s one man in two has some erectile dysfunction. By the 60s the numbers hit 60 per cent, 70 per cent for 70-year-olds. These are big numbers which means that lovemaking in this age group can often be a very bumpy road. Making matters worse is men often don't want to talk about the problem." So is a pretty common issue for a portion of the community, regardless of condom use. I can't speak from experience, but I do know I've had dalliances where there has been no penetration - but that was about power play, rather then necessity. It's a hard question for me to answer, as it would depend on many factors.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Some of us just LOVE the intimacy. If a guy gives of 'himself with gentle honesty' who cares about orgasm or 'performance' ... A man with heart is soooo amazing and, sadly, rare. 😘 - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    even if I orgasm clitorally first .... and never happens if I don't receive oral long enough to orgasm....but that's just me. As they say, some can and some can't. For me the tongue is more important than the cock. But oral first then intercourse is a very wet winner....(btw for me size does matter .. sorry its just how it is for me). LG

  • ruby_blossum

    ruby_blossum

    9 years ago

    ...and most of them will make me happy. Happy ....not sated. To me, that is all just foreplay Penetrative sex....YES PLEASE. I appreciated being told before a meet if a man has erectile dysfunction.Then the choice to meet or stay home and play with toys is my choice.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Quoting 'HennaJay' Reminds me of an article in the paper on the weekend, titled "Getting on and still getting it on: a guide to older singles, dating and sex", and quote: "with men in their 50s one man in two has some erectile dysfunction. By the 60s the numbers hit 60 per cent, 70 per cent for 70-year-olds. These are big numbers which means that lovemaking in this age group can often be a very bumpy road. Making matters worse is men often don't want to talk about the problem." So is a pretty common issue for a portion of the community, regardless of condom use. I can't speak from experience, but I do know I've had dalliances where there has been no penetration - but that was about power play, rather then necessity. It's a hard question for me to answer, as it would depend on many factors. Some guys , and most I hook up with are young, just can't keep an erection with a condom on, it doesn't happen often, and not to any of my current friends on my friends list, to be fair to them, this has been a while ago, but on a few occasions, I encountered guys who can't have had much experience with condoms, perhaps they had permanent partners, perhaps they still have, who knows, either that or performance anxiety, but it was hopeless, no matter how many times they went hard, they went soft during the process of trying to wear a condom, one guy was so anxious about it, he was rushing to try to get it on, but he was one of those guys who had let himself get out of shape, had been a gym junkie, had an injury, was not at that point in the greatest shape, carrying extra weight, it all affects the physical performance, I don't care what anyone says, fit guys rarely have problems with that, young or older. But I did find it really off putting and hard work for me. To answer your question more specifically, I hardly ever orgasm through penetration, unless the guy has quite a bit of size to make me squirt, depending on the angle, I'll go on top, sometimes backwards to work with the angle, but size has to be there, or doggy, again with size, can make me squirt. However, the best and most satisfying for me is oral pleasure followed by vigorous fingering, flicking motion (not in and out guys, you'll hurt the woman internally) which then releases the orgasm and within a few minutes, at least for me and my company, we should be swimming around in my ejaculate, huge, rivers of the stuff expel from my body, so no, penetration isn't important for that. However, penetration for me is another whole experience, who doesn't love that, getting taken by a strong man, fuck yeah, it feels amazing, and I come close to clit orgasm sometimes (much more intense orgasm I do solo), but even if I don't, I don't care, it's incredible and wouldn't be the same without that

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    and then was addressing the op, apologies for any confusion

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    To please and be pleased. I think being open to options, exploring and just having fun enjoying each other leads to great pleasure.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    I think I'm on the other side of the fence here, I don't see the lack of an erection (or a more serious erectile dysfunction issue) as an impediment to having a satisfying sex life for either party. Granted it would be difficult in a one off hook up situation, but with the right sex partner who understands the situation there are work arounds that leave everyone happily gasping. Penetration whilst enjoyable doesn't need to be the objective, but rather the bonus if it happens. Great sex starts in the mind, it's in the look & the touch, the buildup and the anticipation. Just because a man can't attain or maintain an erection, doesn't mean that he doesn't enjoy sexual intimacy, being touched, kissed, teased & aroused. It doesn't mean that he can't bring you to orgasm in so many gorgeously mind blowing ways. And it certainly doesn't make him any less of a man. It makes him a brave man who through communication finds a way to have his sexuality fulfilled. And since we're talking a male/female scenario in this instance it also takes a woman who doesn't take it as a personal affront but rather a small part of an otherwise fabulous sex life. To me penetration is not important, connection is.

  • Mischeviouslad

    Mischeviouslad

    9 years ago

    Quoting 'amilucky'As this is a real problem for some men, trite diagnosies and prognosies from backporch psychologists are not needed. Did you expect Dr Phil in here?Seriously..... odd. Anyhoooooo....... seems to me ..... yes, one of those totally offensive penis-wielding men types who aren't allowed to answer you .... .... that the women I've spoken to love-love-love the absolute connectivity of climax during penetration..... but as the statistics apparently suggest that only 30% or less women do enjoy vaginal climaxes..... the number who are enjoying that are low. So the question would be relevant to 3/10 ... which is a limited and potentially limiting audience to answer your question. So.... you could rephrase as either... a) Would those women who do have penetrative orgasms...... prefer..... to climax during penetration?orb) would those women prefer to climax vaginally......at all. Who would answer no?! DG

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Erectile dysfunction is no big deal if it is acknowledged,the problem is when it is not..it leads to confusion and to the woman sometimes blaming herself,not being attractive enough yadda,yadda..there is a lot of pressure on both parties sometimes when you have decided to have sex for the first time..both are often way out of their comfort zones..it's a secure man who can initiate the conversation..ignoring the potential problem and hoping for the best is not a good option...xxFreya

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    if i was involved in a anything other than a mutual, serious loving relationship with a Close Friend & Partner,....then yes, it would be a deal breaker. I mean,....if a guy & I were about to have sex & I said "oh, btw, my puss is closed for the night due to nerves/anxiety etc,...I hope you dont mind if we have non-penetrative sex?! We can still orgasm manually though"!!! I guarantee 'he' wouldn't be impressed! Same for me. And if i was a guy who had erectile dysfunction -Id be making damn certain I could get & keep an erection -ie: the Viagra would be in my wallet, before heading out on a date. I mean, why would you stuff up a sex date by arriving at the sex stage and not being able to achieve & maintain an erection? (& I mean a proper one, not a semi!) - due to known erectile dysfunction (& not a one-off). Just my opinion. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • Mr_MrsAraps

    Mr_MrsAraps

    9 years ago

    Was thinking along the same lines at DG in that roughly 75% of women can't come from penetration alone. That makes no mention of the women with lesbian or bi female partners then there is likely not to be cock there anyway and just as much orgasms and satisfying sexy as women with hetro partners. I would also be seeing what is the guys reaction. Does he get an attack of the sads and whinge or does he say I can still use oral, toys etc and make a big effort to get their partner off in other ways. Also by not making your having a hard dick central to a successful encounter with using oral and toys then it releases the pressure on the guy which can be a self fulfilling prophecy. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • Mr_MrsAraps

    Mr_MrsAraps

    9 years ago

    I respect you putting your view forward but I don't get it. If the woman couldn't lubricate or have vaginosis (common issues for women) and she says I give awesome blow jobs how about it .... If I as guy said "I'm going now cause it's a sex date cause it rules out penetration" ..... I think if you asked women if this happened to them, I reckon 9/10 women would say I'm acting like a huge tool. So does that mean the woman that had the vaginosis or lubracation issues or the guy with erection issues should never be allowed to have a one night stand if that's what he/she wants ?? Sorry, I don't get it ??? Cheers, W - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Nice to see new contributors to these discussions, I've only just begun to be affected by ED there are some interesting side effects with the "med" solution, Duration, not an issues, I can go for hours, (with breaks) Satisfaction; my partners, although normally bound, are more than happy with the duration, Me: not so, lasting sooo long, great for the ego; oral is just not getting me across the line and there's an increased effort to orgasm through penetration. Any suggestions. gratefully appreciated, its Cialis not Viagra

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    I apologise for being what may seem to some as harsh. Its just that I know what works for me. You & others will have differing opinions & experiences to me & I do respect those variations & choices. I have always been very patient, compassionate & understanding over the years, but honestly?! Im just no longer prepared to work so damned hard at something that shouldnt be, more-often-than-not, more of a chore than a pleasure. Im on limited time now. At 50, my body clock & functions are fast approaching the wind-down stage . I no longer have the luxury of time, that you or younger lovers have (for I was a late "starter"). I avoid any potential "walk-out", disasters now by following a couple of "personal guidelines," & 'screening' that enable me to choose what works best for me. I dont try to foist or force anything on anyone else, they are always free to walk away from me. One of the things I do ,out of respect for not only myself, but a prospective lover, is I always make certain that "everything functions" as it should. If that requires always having lube by the bed or a medical issue seen to first, then so be it. I dont think expecting the same degree of courtesy from a potential lover is too much to ask. I dont make a big deal out of any of it but if my discreet & private "screening" hasnt satisfied me completely, then I politely avoid reaching the date or intimacy stage. I dont ask anything more of anyone else than I expect of myself. Im not a hypocrite. I didnt say anywhere in my post, that any of my preferences regarding the issue at hand, ought, must or should be a universal standard . If you recall, I did however say that "it was just my opinion". Nor did i say or even suggest that those guys & girls who do want or choose one-night stands SHOULDN'T indulge in them. The business of others is just that...none of my business! Only you know how you arrived at that conclusion?? With regards to the lubrication issue , I head that off at the pass by always making sure I have lube available, always! (Abit like Id be making sure,... if i was a guy who needed extra help to get/keep an erection, then Id always have the Viagra available). Nothing a minor degree of self-awareness, mindfulness & consideration cant resolve or prepare for. I don't see the problem with acknowledging & working through issues. Instead of just whining & (trying) to lay guilt trips on others as a way of avoiding confronting & dealing with that 'elephant in the room' (thanks Stir 😋). I cant take responsibility for others' shortcomings or issues. Nor would I dream of expecting anyone else to take on my responsibilities. That's just being lazy & evasive in my view. Regards the vaginal problem you mentioned ,..that is a medical & health problem that I dont have , however I do take care of my sexual health. Ive rambled on enough now lol. Cheers - KK xx - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    It is still very much called Viagra . Cialis & Viagra are different drugs actually. Both used to treat erectile dysfunction. There are some important differences between the two, not the least of which is differing active ingredients. Have a google :) - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    I agree with all you wrote too. KK 😙😎 - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Oops,..correction. ..the "Elephant in the room" is your quote, sorry 😣 KK xx - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Quoting 'Tradie006' Any suggestions. gratefully appreciated, its Cialis not Viagra Did you mean you're taking Cialis, not Viagra? Someone put Cialis in my drink once as a joke. Just gave me a smashing headache. I'd like to hear about the differences from guys who've tried both.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Quoting 'Meander' Quoting 'Tradie006' Any suggestions. gratefully appreciated, its Cialis not Viagra Did you mean you're taking Cialis, not Viagra? Someone put Cialis in my drink once as a joke. Just gave me a smashing headache. I'd like to hear about the differences from guys who've tried both. The blue one just gave me a killer headache and hot flushing - maybe I would've had a killer hard-on if I hadn't just wanted to chop my head off to make the headache go away. The yellow one isn't as likely to give the headache, but it has made my temperature shoot high - again, not exactly conducive to wanting to do anything when you feel like you're running a temperature. Never tried Levitra, but they're all PDE5 inhibitors so the (side) effects will largely be the same.