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Make Love, Not Porn (or Porn:Sex as Movies:Life)

June 17 2012

Interesting TEDTalkSummary: This speaker says that porn has fucked up our perceptions of sex, especially sexual expectations/norms. Porn world: Men love cumming on women's faces and women love it when men cum on their faces.Real world: Some men like it and some don't. Some women like it and some women don't. Porn world: Women don't have pubes.Real world: Some women like to be hairless, others prefer groomed and others go au naturale. Men also prefer different styles.Porn world: Women cum all the time in positions where nothing is going near the clit.Real world: There has to be some rhythmic pressure on the clit to make a woman cum. Porn world: All women love anal sexReal world: Guys, take a poll. How do you feel about someone sticking their dick up your ass? Some are into it and others aren't. Other major areas: gagging/choking women while they give blowjobs, dirty talk, how to get a woman turned on, etc. Being totally honest with yourself, how much does porn guide your sex? Positively? Negatively? How has it impacted your sexual expectations? Have you actively thought about what you do during sex and whether or not it brings you pleasure in any way?

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  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    When I see those black guys pumping out several litres of cum I realise what a hopeless lover I am and that there is no way I will ever be able to measure up to what the modern woman expects from a real man.Just here for the reading, the rest would be underwhelming.

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    I think as we mature we definitely have a greater understanding of porn and that is just another form of entertainment that like other movies and tv shows require preparation and rehearsal. I do think porn which is a lot of people's first experience (even though only visual) of sex can warp ones sense of what is 'normal' and can cause unrealistic expectations. All this said porn is a wonderful medium to advance ones erotic experiences through often displaying things that may not often be discussed unless watched. We are in no way against porn the old saying of 'monkey see, monkey do' without doing some research can definitely cause harm when it comes to trying to reinact what people see in porn.

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    To answer the question posed porn has definitely affected our relationship positively!!

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    I don't watch porn , I've probably seen about 4 movies ever! It just doesn't turn me on ! I am fairly assertive in bed, Id probably sit up and stop everything if you tried to spit on me or gag me too much . Most men I've been with arent that imaginative actually :) they could probably do with watching more porn !

  • RHP

    RHP User

    13 years ago

    I dont watch much porn.....I love my fantasy much more....when I write it out.......also I dont like to even think about anal sex I find it yukky. And I think all men should ask there mothers for good advise how to satisfy a women not the fathers. When you read some reports on womens orgasms.....so many women never had one and so many men think they are the best.........and when this type of males have sex with an honest women they say you must be frigid my wife always had an orgasm......ya mate ya. Its also not in the male to speak about sex with mates, except to tell them they had an awesome fuck, not like we women we talk about the ins and outs. What a shame, men should sit down with each other and exchange expierences....they would learn alot from this. Ok. its not always the mens fault.....sorry fellas, dont shoot me....its the womens too for not saying something. I did this with my sons......and both are great lovers.....I believe.....and when there is anything they want to know we talk about it. I dont cum with vaginal penetration but give me a good tongue and I fly.....and kisses ohh so much kisses. Also I say something to the male, should I like it, or should I dont like it. how else should the poor boy know when I dont voice it. PORN IS GOOD FOR MALES WHO HAVE NO OUTLET FOR SEX BUT ITS BAD BECAUSE THIS IS NOT WHAT MOST WOMEN WANT. Thats my input ....from a female.

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    I dont watch much porn either..but my mind has scenes going through it often enough..at the end of the day i still have to be able to produce it myself..if that makes sense ??

  • QLDtwo4fun

    QLDtwo4fun

    13 years ago

    We are not big porn users, we like to see people enjoying themselves, but most of the porn we have seen, in our opinion, is: badly acted and doesn't look like they are really enjoying themselves; has too many fake breasts and overly tidy labia. There are some exeptions. Given time experience and confidence people will find out what they like and just not do the things they don't enjoy. We do agree that porn images will be messing up young people's ideas about sex, particularly the appearance of female genitalia. Even our local glossy free newspaper carries adds for female genital cosmetic surgery. There must be teenage boys out there who will get quite a shock when they see a pussy with hair and labia minor that protrude past the labia major. And I can't imagine what these images are doing to young women's confidence and sense about their own body image. Oh by the way powerminx there doesn't always 'need to be some rhythmic pressure on the clit to make women cum'. Women's bodies have a few sensitive spots that make them cum, find and using them is great fun.

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    I think it does affect everyone, whether you watch it or not. It has an effect on what people consider as expected, and also has an effect on people's fantasies. Personally, yes I've tried things that I've seen on porn. For the record, cumming on someone's face isn't really any fun. There are other thigns that have been though ;) But you always need to apply common sense. To assume that a woman is just going to cum just because you're ramming her, and that she automatically loves anal sex and will swallow, is all bloody stupid. You still actually need to communicate with your partner and remember they're a person as well.

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    Though all of you are over 40 so your sex life most likely existed before the internet porn boom. I started watching porn before I even thought of sex as desirable (thank you, health teacher for showing a full on childbirth to 10 year olds). I've noticed that exes have tried to pull some porn shit on me and failed. Oddly enough, the two younger guys I fooled around with last year seemed to have the best porn-free sexual imaginations. 23 and 24, skilled, adventurous with zero evidence of mainstream porn viewership? Rare gems.

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    Do you squirt? Do you do anal? Do you want me to fist you? Do you wanna have a threesome? How many times can you come? Can I f**ck your titties? Do you have a friend who can join us? Do you want me to lick you,all night? Can I cum over now? Whats ya name ...again?

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    Quoting 'DeliciousCplBris'"Most men I've been with arent that imaginative actually :) they could probably do with watching more porn !"Look at this woman ! What more inspiration do you need !You are so in the wrong state !

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    I agree with the thread. It seems like more women are trying to become 'a pornstar' in bed. Some of them becomes very submissive and possibly will let you do anything. It is hot when you are very horny and just want to F** the shit out of her, but it doesn't really do it for me if I want to make love.   If you watch a lot of Pierre Woodman series you will be able to tell how submissive a women can be; and it surprises me greatly.   If you want to watch a good porn try X-Art. Their series are very much like making love.   Also don't forget that porn is a movie, a lot of things in it are fake. I have guy friends who only watch amateur videos and doo not watch produced porn at all.

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    By Pierre Woodman series I am referring to the Private Castings only.

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    It really worries me that porn is destroying what it is that nature intended for man and woman to enjoy in a normal and natural way...Does'nt matter if your young or old, if you're not careful or are easily impressionable' porn will twist your mind in such a way you will lose sense of what is real and what is not.It must be disturbing for females these days to go out with a guy with the thought in her mind that it is expected she give a blowjob, or expected that she let him cum in her mouth or any where on her body he feels like.. OR for a guy to be expected to perform like a Olympic athlete and have a dick the size of a large cucumber.. all unrealistic expectations bought about by actors that similate what we perceive as good sex. ?There has been some porn I've enjoyed' ( we all have that lil something that visually does it for us ) but I learnt a long time ago to by pass all that constant crap of face cumming, anal , fisting , etc etc.. However' give me a story with serious seduction and some sneaky visuals and I love it... One recent rainy Sunday' my gf and I watched a old movie called "Mandingo' set in the the american south with slaves and white masters etc.. anyway' the wife of the white master gets it on with 'mandingo' a black slave guy.. Dont get to see much' but when he lays her down and pulls her big ankle length dress up over her waist, then with camera on her face only' he starts to enter her.. obviously hung, she bites her lip and winches in pain then finally they make love... WELL' that turned us both on.. didnt see anything much ' but what they did show was enough for the mind.. By all means' porn is here to stay, but you control it' instead of the other way around... If you're addicted to it , do something about it... Jay

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    50zcool, I can't speak for all women, but I would probably not enjoy litres of semen. The amount of semen is irrelevant, but again, porn gives the impression that the quantity matters. Considering the rise in anal bleaching, labiaplasty for cosmetic reasons, etc., my guess is that porn stars are now setting the standard in this department. Even if you don't watch porn, a partner likely does and may give you the impression that you don't measure up.

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    I keep telling guys that porn is entertainment and not an instructional video.Porn is sexy but not sensual.

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    Am I alone in the fact I watch the stuff I don't actually do?I'm quite dominant and aggressive in bed, when the urge is there, but I don't like watching it on video. In fact, I do almost nothing I watch on the internet. Nothing wrong with fucking like a pornstar if everyone's happy.

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    Quoting 'MistressT'I keep telling guys that porn is entertainment and not an instructional video. Porn is sexy but not sensual. It's generally a basic formula, designed for the (male) masses to jerk off to. Not that that's a bad thing... For the porn companies they have a pretty big market (masturbating males - not exactly a niche!!). Unfortunately a lot of the same masses it is designed to appeal to think it contains secret instructions on how to please a woman - that's kinda arse about face (which kinda sounds like a porn fetish in itself!) . I love the idea of porn directed by a woman, moreso the idea of a woman directing a porno AND me at the same time. I'm not bad at following directions after all! ;-)

  • 2andmore4fun

    2andmore4fun

    13 years ago

    How about the other side of the thread? Is society (or more so the governing bodies) diminshing the fantasy of porn?   Look at recent news about the industry in California - all performers must now by law use condoms for intercourse with all partners. Apparently the industry is packing up and moving to Nevada or another adjacent state. While the health of all performers is important, watching porn is a fantasy outlet for raw fucking without condoms.   And all that focus on flying cum shots and covering girls faces, some time ago I learned that the average amount of cum in one ejaculation is how a 1970's band named themselves... 10cc.   Well that sheds a new meaning on Rubber Bullets or that tropical Dreadlock Holiday...

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    For me I do not watch alot of porn. so porn doesn't guide my sexual needs. I have watched a little porn and find it quiet amusing. I think I do a better job!!! lol I do like to make love but making love is for a specaail man and oneself! Quoting '50zcool'When I see those black guys pumping out several litres of cum I realise what a hopeless lover I am and that there is no way I will ever be able to measure up to what the modern woman expects from a real man. Just here for the reading, the rest would be underwhelming.

  • RHP

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    13 years ago

    I think I'd better remove my tongue from my cheek now.Oh dear !

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    Quoting 'Jean_Girard' Quoting 'MistressT'I keep telling guys that porn is entertainment and not an instructional video. Porn is sexy but not sensual. It's generally a basic formula, designed for the (male) masses to jerk off to. Not that that's a bad thing... For the porn companies they have a pretty big market (masturbating males - not exactly a niche!!). Unfortunately a lot of the same masses it is designed to appeal to think it contains secret instructions on how to please a woman - that's kinda arse about face (which kinda sounds like a porn fetish in itself!) . I love the idea of porn directed by a woman, moreso the idea of a woman directing a porno AND me at the same time. I'm not bad at following directions after all! I would be happy to direct a porno if you would like to be the star. Not sure if you would be happy though.....

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    And I'm not talking Sylvia Saint!Not me though - I'm a massive wanker. Some may have guessed. I'm in that narrow band that hit their mid-teens riiiiiight as the internet was becoming a thing. My word. There were few things more torturous than waiting for images to load on a 28.8k modem.Then there was file sharing. Then there was high-speed broadband.I think at various points in my life the only thing that held me back from being qualified as a porn addict was that it didn't destroy any relationships, nor detract from other aspects of my life. But geez, I think I passed the frequency test.I digress though, and that's perhaps a confession for another topic.I'm in two minds about the stuff. On the one hand, most vanilla content does nothing for me. The senseless, monotonous, formulaic pounding with boobed up screamers leaves me cold. Worse still, I really hate the misogynistic content of most mainstream American porn - the choking, the slapping, the spitting etc. It's violent and it's disgusting. I understand in *real* powerplay it's a mutual respect thing that's totally absent from porn. Blech.However, as a teen in the late 1990s I had seen loads of porn (mostly pics, videos weren't really practical then I don't think) before my first time. It didn't hold me back. In fact, in some ways it kind of helped. I've said in a previous thread my first time was fantastic, and my girlfriend at the time had no idea I was a virgin until I told her months later. She seemed to enjoy herself. Maybe it gave me confidence? I wonder if it was because my 'education' was in pictures, so I had to use my imagination to fill in the gaps*.Overall, it's opened my eyes to a lot of things that I probably wouldn't be exposed to, and normalised a lot of practices for me. Blowjobs and going down on a lady are the norm. Bisexuality and anal aren't far off (although the latter in very trusting relationships only). I think I've definitely taken a lot of ideas from porn, and rejected most of the stuff I know is unrealistic or abusive. So I can't speak for anyone else, but for me I know I hold several conflicting positions on it**.N.D.*That was an awesome and tacky unintentional pun.**Almost a second one!

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    I have to say I started watching porn really young which has corrupted to me as to what i want. Ill be honest i thought that Porn was the way to make a woman happy, then it clicked that that this porn is made for men and doesnt really represent women properly. Took my time to learn but learnt :-).But there is fem porn now, which is quite interesting a very different dynamic from Porn made for me :-).But now with all this cam action who needs porn... Amateur is always better :-)

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    ...and I get it.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    I love watching porn. Does it influence what I do sexually? Nope! Not one bit. Try pulling my hair or slapping my arse and see what happens. I do tend to ruin the porn for any man watching it with me as I critique the action fairly well. It appears to me that people seem to search more and more for that "kink" or that "fetish". The general populace has become somewhat jaded by the simple pleasure of sex. We are now constantly seeking the new as far as sex goes, something to titilate, tease, and stir our loins. Along with the internet and the technological age, porn has become more freely available and accessible. Gone are the days of grubby little school boys pouring over the penthouse or playboy that someone filched from his bachelor uncles house over the weekend. It is acting boys,...it is not real. It is for entertainment only. There is no way in this wide world a woman is gonna be yelling "Oh yeah. Oh yeah" while giving her all to a man or men and getting absolutely no stimulation back in return.

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    I find that it's the other way around for me.My sexual experiences guide my porn viewership, (yes powerminxx, I'm over 40).I don't enjoy watching porn that seems unnatural or fake/forced; like pulling out to ejaculate on someones face, extreme bondage (light restraint is fine!) choking, violence, sadism. I'd much rather watch something that I think I could realistically be in a position to participate in (or did enjoy in my youth)

  • RHP

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    12 years ago

    Quoting 'Hesione' Do you squirt? Do you do anal? Do you want me to fist you? Do you wanna have a threesome? How many times can you come? Can I f**ck your titties? Do you have a friend who can join us? Do you want me to lick you,all night? Can I cum over now? Whats ya name ...again? Ha Ha Great answer Its amazing how modern males are having their sex ed from porn. I blame the christian lobby for trying to ban or restrict what can be taught in school. My mother took all her children to family planning seminars for our sex ed and was quite informative after. She explained how the female reacted to various stimulation. She also mentioned that we should be in a caring relationship. Good idea but.... I have learnt over the years that most good sex happens between the ears. Clitorial stimulaion is GREAT amd I love getting a woman to squirm under me/ on me/ with me. Mike

  • inspirit

    inspirit

    12 years ago

    Quoting 'kinkisthenewpink' Porn is designed purely for the camera, it has nothing at all to do with good sex or good techniques.  Couldn't agree more however kinky kinky porn is my favourite which has positivley guided me to explore my boundaries.