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Manorexia

June 18 2014

I know a lot of men in my age group go to the gym to get 'big'. And their reasoning is generally to look good to the opposite sex. Not so much to live a healthy lifestyle. In fact I would almost argue - eating twice your recommended calories with zero cardio, is detrimental to your health. But anyway, that is not the point I want to get at. Obviously having a body like Brad Pitt's from fight club - is going to get you a lot of attention. But is it the great body that gets the girl you fancy back to your place, or is it the confidence that you get from having that body? Obviously appearances matter, but I think being able to present yourself confidently and having a little bit of cheekiness on the side is the deal breaker. Thoughts? Would be great to hear from both sexes. Note: Don't have anything against gym fanatics. And obviously not all of you do it to look ridiculously good looking.

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  • JessicaRabbit

    JessicaRabbit

    11 years ago

    I work out because it makes me feel sexy, so in turn I feel more confident. I don't think it's just confidence that improves the chances of getting lucky though - it's also about looking good! I also think that a fit body shows that someone takes pride in their appearance which is always a good thing. I think it's more attractive to look at. I'm not a huge fan of massive muscly guys, but slim toned bodies (on both men and women) work for me! Jess xx

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    The type of body you talk about doesn't do anything for me. Six-packs are actually a turn-off for me, as I've found I tend not to have much in common with guys (and gals) sporting them. just not big on strenuous exercise, because frankly I'm too lazy. Confidence is hot though, regardless of physique.

  • MsSuperFoxy

    MsSuperFoxy

    11 years ago

    Perfect imperfections are a huge turn on... PFFFFT to those with a perfect 6pack and perfect gym body. SHHHHHHHHH *OP, come a little closer and let me whisper something in your ear* Those with a fabulous smokin hot bodies, most of the time (I've found) is... they are complete wankers and dickheads! It's true. They have the most awful attitudes with very unattractive personalities. Some of the gym junkies and pics on here, sorry but I just want to poke with a pin to let some of that hot air. Foxy

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    I have looked past Mr perfect body, to Mr cheeky grin (with the not so perfect body)standing just behind and off to the side......... Yes, I enjoy a nice body (or two) however, if they don't have that spark in their eye, then forget everything else.........

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    I have to say i am addicted to handsome young men with fit bodies , but fit bodies without mental stimulations , so dead boring , and thank God i got one now and he keeps me happy.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Ok, This is a very interesting topic, and I am going to speak truthfully about personal experience. I honestly consider myself to have quite a vibrant personality, to those who actually bother to know me. I'm easy to talk to, light-hearted, love to joke around, and quite articulate...I mean, I spent two years as a breakfast announcer on Radio, so personality wise, I really think I have what it takes. However, from my late teens to my early 20's, I was not very popular with women. Yes, they all told me I was a great guy, lots of fun etc, but at the end of the day - overlooked as a sexual partner...to some other (clearly better looking) male. So I decided, since my family business is in the health and fitness industry, I should start making changes to myself. So I started training in my early 20's, and since then Ive put on about 15 kg of pure muscle...and let me tell you, as a person who has DONE the journey...having a good body makes a MASSIVE difference. All of the sudden, girls started to 'notice' my personality. But this only happened after I started training...and my friends are having similiar results after joining a gym. Girls are FOREVER harping on about how they want a nice guy, funny, respectful, blah blah blah. None of those qualities were recognized in me until I had a ripped physique. It's sad, but totally TRUE!!!! And I can happily say that I am still relatively humble about it, I dont talk myself up, I don't post endless photos of myself in the gym on facebook, I don't see myself as better than the next guy who doesn't train...none of that crap. I just remained the same, but got a better body. And my sex-life went through the roof...soooo...it's hard to argue that girls, despite what they say, are just as visual as guys. And I've found the only women who are intimidated by a guy with a good physique are those who refuse to set foot in a gym...

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    ...To assume that a person with a good body MUST have no intelligence, is an extremely short-sighted stereotype.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    The infamous jessica rabbit.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Hey to make my point come across clearly. Appearance and mutual attraction is a requirement. But it is just the initial babystep - without a personality or flare, you won't be seducing anyone. Imo the best form of seduction is laughter. Make someone forget about the crap in their life and let the lose themselves in the moment. Fun times :)

  • JessicaRabbit

    JessicaRabbit

    11 years ago

    Quoting 'SuperFoxxxy'Those with a fabulous smokin hot bodies, most of the time (I've found) is... they are complete wankers and dickheads! It's true. They have the most awful attitudes with very unattractive personalities. Some of the gym junkies and pics on here, sorry but I just want to poke with a pin to let some of that hot air. Foxy I think this is complete rubbish. Taking pride in how you look and wanting to be healthy and fit does not make you a lousy human being. It also doesn't mean that you're full of yourself. Sure there's those who will buy into their hype, but they'd be idiots whether they had hot bodies or not. As Tigeroo said - ridiculous stereotype. Doesn't matter how fit you are, if you have a shit personality, I won't want anything to do with you.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Quoting 'Tigeroo' All of the sudden, girls started to 'notice' my personality. But this only happened after I started training. (...)I've found the only women who are intimidated by a guy with a good physique are those who refuse to set foot in a gym... 1. There's a difference between girls and women.2. You talkin' to me?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Quoting 'Bigmamma1' I have looked past Mr perfect body, to Mr cheeky grin (with the not so perfect body)standing just behind and off to the side......... Yes, I enjoy a nice body (or two) however, if they don't have that spark in their eye, then forget everything else......... 100 % agree. If they don't have that naughty charming glint in their eyes, my pussy stays as dry as the Sahara Desert I am afraid. Doesn't matter how nice their body is.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    To Tigeroo and the wider RHP audience. I know this may be a generalisation but sometimes I feel that people in their 20's are more concerned with looks and appearances than compared to older people say in their 40s +. Possibly a deep genetic code telling us to procreate with the strongest partner? Although I bet Tigeroo will say it was older women as well that ignored him... but I think my point still has some merit. Anyway Mr Tigeroo. Hubba hubba you have a lovely body and no doubt a fantastic personality so I am sure you are indeed, a very popular man. Damn if I was only 10 years younger.

  • Violetincredible

    Violetincredible

    11 years ago

    I'm a sucker for a hot body (not necessarily muscly, I also like the toned yoga/skater types) and intelligence in the same package ... Hmm and a few other features :p I like people who look after themselves- bodies and brains :) because I do that and I feel like I can relate to them. Xxviolet

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Quoting 'Meeka100' Although I bet Tigeroo will say it was older women as well that ignored him... but I think my point still has some merit. Meeka, to be honest, you're wrong there! Older women respond to me much better, and there are 3 perfect examples on this very thread. I believe it's because I communicate pretty well and can make conversations flow, and I know as women mature they do look for these qualities more and more. From my RHP experiences, I must say some of the best times I've had have been with women 8+ years older than me, and also the messages I get from women in their 30s and especially 40s are much more sincere, polite, respectful and kind but without being too boring. Some of the responses I get from women in their 20s are very short, vague, and often rude without merit. All three women In my Subject I have exchanged a few messages with, and have all been absolute darlings, encouraging me to make more posts on here recently, so thanks a lot girls xo

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Tigeroo, I meant before your body transformation. Just trying to offer a reason why younger woman may be more interested in looks rather than personality. But I think the nice guy comes back into play once they start looking for a Daddy for their future kids. I think. And I am sure all of us "older" ladies are very nice to you. hehehe.

  • On_Safari

    On_Safari

    11 years ago

    BUT speaking as an older woman who has been approached by the ripped younger guy....honestly I question "Why me?" and then "What in hell would I do with THAT naked?!?!" Lol (shakes head) I think the younger ripped guy just intimidates me if it's on an "attraction level", any other level you're all just men/boys and it's been a long time since one of those scared me. I haven't cone across one yet that actually follows through on meeting me sooooooo I guess I needn't be worried. 😉 lol Jessica Rabbit that's one SIZZLING HOT profile pic!!! 😍😍😍😍 WOW!!!!! ~ Indy

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    I don't have the perfect athletic body, thanks to age and kids and a delay in looking after myself.... I do workout hard at the gym because it makes me feel better about myself and gives me confidence.... It may or may not make me sexy to the opposite sex but it makes me FEEL sexy and to me that attitude can be what attracts people - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    I appreciate a nice, toned body as much as the next girl (ahem, woman ), although I'm not into the bulked up look and prefer a leaner, more natural shape when it comes to men. Yes if I find a guy very physically attractive then there's a high probability that I'll fuck him....but it's his non-physical traits that will determine whether I fuck him more than once.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Quoting 'Tigeroo' All of the sudden, girls started to 'notice' my personality. But this only happened after I started training...and my friends are having similiar results after joining a gym. Girls are FOREVER harping on about how they want a nice guy, funny, respectful, blah blah blah. None of those qualities were recognized in me until I had a ripped physique. It's sad, but totally TRUE!!!! do you think this may have at least partly been due to the fact that improving your physique also improved your confidence and willingness to put yourself out there?

  • Lovinit28andKC72

    Lovinit28andKC72

    11 years ago

    But I can't think about anything but your new profile pic miss rabbit, that's smoking hot.....😍 Bloody hell Indy, if you don't know what to do with them, throw them on my side of your bed. I'm sure I'd be able to work something out or have a lot of fun trying......😍 Shit now back to the question, geez sorry OP..... I love a good guy, if he happens to be hot and ripped than that's a bonus. We all like eye candy, but most of us would prefer a complete package. No good going to all that trouble to have a great body and look good, if they're just going to be dickheads. Personality is an attractive quality in anyone, can make mr average, smoking hot in an instant.... Far nicer than mr looks good with no personality......💋

  • On_Safari

    On_Safari

    11 years ago

    There were three (four, five or six) in the bed and the ripped one said "Roll over, roll over! So they all rolled over and one fell into you...👻" LMAO come on I'm working under pressure here.....😝

  • MsSuperFoxy

    MsSuperFoxy

    11 years ago

    I'm talking about those steroid over sized type gym junkies. Those with huge muscly bodies with small pin heads. It's actually weird to look at in my eyes....it is unattractive to see a body not in proportioned with their heads. I really do want to pin them with a pin. I work with a few people who are over addicted to the gyms and yes their attitude really sticks that it makes me sick how they talk on and on and on an on about training at the gym, drinking those power muscle drinks, how much weights they lift, the competitions they enter etc etc. It's all about them and how much bigger their bodies and how get their muscles grow and not only that they go on how the women love watching them. Just too cocky for me..I'm afraid. I mean it's boring listening to them talk - their whole attitudes are off putting and in fact people do run from them at work. And yes I have seen a few pics on here too of what I am talking about. There is pride in appearance then there is over the top ego driven to have the perfect muscled body. I don't mind someone who goes to the gym to look good and feel great, however it's ones whole attitude that really appeals to me. Foxy

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Quoting 'Lovinit28' But I can't think about anything but your new profile pic miss rabbit, that's smoking hot.....😍

  • Hottie1

    Hottie1

    11 years ago

    I love it when people spend time on making themselves look and feel good. I do 2 personal training sessions a week and walk between 30 - 50 kms per week (powerwalking not incidental walking). try as I might the only thing that will remove my mummy tummy and stretch marks is my scheduled tummy tuck. I am fit but do not look ripped. I am intimidated (it's a me thing) by perfect bodies that have the ripped look. I don't message RHPers with profiles showing buff bodies not because I don't admire them but I don't feel I look like I take care of myself and don't look 'obviously' fit. Just sharing M xx

  • Circe

    Circe

    11 years ago

    I love a good bod! Sorry, I'm totally shallow... I like them to have a good bod, a good head on their shoulders, a sweet smile, oodles of charm, a kind heart and a hard cock... That's not too much to ask for is it?? There are lots out there.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Whilst I understand the comments of Tigeroo and Ms Rabbit (I also concur on the great new profile pic), I am somewhat concerned by the remarks that an accentuated physique equated to either greater confidence in oneself or one's pulling power. Narcissism is a personality trait which we all possess in varying degrees. It involves the imposition of the ego over the self image. Despite its popular connection with vanity, its underlying nature is a sense of inadequacy in the core self and the belief that it needs to be built up to compensate for this inadequacy. Taken to its extreme, it becomes a personality disorder. The remark that women did not pay attention to me until I got a ripped body is a typically narcissistic remark, that is, I acquire a special quality, that special quality drew envy/attention/praise from others and that envy/attention/praise made me a better person than before I had that special quality. Whilst it is important to be healthy generally, like all things, physical development can be taken to an extreme. Furthermore the belief that a man/woman is only attractive with the physical attribute means that they firstly do not develop their emotional intelligence in being empathetic to others who are not physically fit, and secondly develops a sense of entitlement which means they become resentful towards people who do not lavish envy/attention/praise on the special quality which they have taken so much effort to acquire. In short, although the person may look aesthetically pleasing in isolation, their obsession with the way they look and the abnormal weight which they give to ephemeral differences mean they are not necessarily the best choice for someone to hook up with.

  • Paradisepair

    Paradisepair

    11 years ago

    I've met douchebag buff guys and sensitive super hot, nice and friendly buff guys, and obviously better with a nice personality but it's a real turn on for me.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Love the responses. Especially one in particular. Not going to say which. But ladies watch out. Especially the older ones XD

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Especially those in their 30s and 40s. Puke*

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    No puking at women in their 30s and 40s. Just the lack of subtlety in the post :)

  • JessicaRabbit

    JessicaRabbit

    11 years ago

    Extremists in any form are not sexy! And thank you muchly Indy and Lovinit *blushes* :D Jess Xx - Posted from rhpmobile

  • d_MidnightRunner

    d_MidnightRunner

    11 years ago

    Quoting 'Tigeroo' Ok, This is a very interesting topic, and I am going to speak truthfully about personal experience. I honestly consider myself to have quite a vibrant personality, to those who actually bother to know me. I'm easy to talk to, light-hearted, love to joke around, and quite articulate...I mean, I spent two years as a breakfast announcer on Radio, so personality wise, I really think I have what it takes. However, from my late teens to my early 20's, I was not very popular with women. Yes, they all told me I was a great guy, lots of fun etc, but at the end of the day - overlooked as a sexual partner...to some other (clearly better looking) male. So I decided, since my family business is in the health and fitness industry, I should start making changes to myself. So I started training in my early 20's, and since then Ive put on about 15 kg of pure muscle...and let me tell you, as a person who has DONE the journey...having a good body makes a MASSIVE difference. All of the sudden, girls started to 'notice' my personality. But this only happened after I started training...and my friends are having similiar results after joining a gym. Girls are FOREVER harping on about how they want a nice guy, funny, respectful, blah blah blah. None of those qualities were recognized in me until I had a ripped physique. It's sad, but totally TRUE!!!! And I can happily say that I am still relatively humble about it, I dont talk myself up, I don't post endless photos of myself in the gym on facebook, I don't see myself as better than the next guy who doesn't train...none of that crap. I just remained the same, but got a better body. And my sex-life went through the roof...soooo...it's hard to argue that girls, despite what they say, are just as visual as guys. And I've found the only women who are intimidated by a guy with a good physique are those who refuse to set foot in a gym... Wow Tiger, I can relate to the above so strongly, except for the sex life going through the roof part - I'm still waiting for that to happen haha. In addition to the points you've made, I've only in last year started shaving my head and leaving a bit of shadow on my face and despite the fact I've had women I already knew say "they don't like it" I get more female attention than ever. This is especially true once I start talking and the "personality" as you said, which has always been there comes out. I think it's time for some neck tatts and face piercings too, really throw them for a loop!!!! Haha

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    I must be at the wrong gym. The guys travel in packs here, and spend more time primping themselves in the mirror as they lift weight I am surprised they stop and look around long enough to notice anyone else without their mates help ...I would rather the guy running on the treadmill that sends you that cheeky smile as they watch me trip over yet another piece of gym equipment. I go to the gym to help take care of myself. I know I will never be trim taut and terrific but it does boost my own confidence and in turn pays off in spades. Ms S - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    I was fortunate to have a solid build, which meant I didn't need to do anything very heavy to develop muscle. BUT (a BIG BUT), unfortunately I had to work harder as I got older... Then, when I decided to tone things down at about 40... I found I had to watch my weight every minute, because of it. I played Rugby League into my 30's and after that, had to make sure I did just a couple of short workouts at the gym (and some swimming and walking) to make sure I didn't turn into a 'blob'... As I aged, I got the right advise from a physiotherapist, as to how to bring my muscle mass down to 'average' without it turning into 'flab'. Fortunately it worked well as I was in good hands (an ex boxer) and I had the presence of mind to get the advice. Most of all and IMPORTANTLY, I wasn't foolish enough to think I'd be able to keep that body into my 50's without ridiculous amounts of exercise (and testosterone, which drops markedly after you get to 45 - 50). But it can be done sensibly... You just have to learn to accept that you have to make changes to your lifestyle and body when it's time. Aging gracefully and realizing you can't look like a 30 yo anymore is very important. It also makes it possible to perform like a 30 yo where and when it counts to someone important (your partner), because you're not spending all your energy and testosterone trying to look 30 and having none left for the 'important stuff'... Why anyone would want to create a body that you have to end up taking care of for the rest of your life, beats me completely, (as when you begin to get older, it takes so much more to maintain. I also believe that women prefer a well maintained but not full of lumps and bumps (not t mention the 'pimple on a pumpkin' syndrome... Heads don't grow... The contents just get smaller...

  • OPNmarriagecpl

    OPNmarriagecpl

    11 years ago

    For myself (Mrs), I have no attraction whatsoever to men/women with 6 packs and super toned bodies. I am exceedingly attracted to an older (over 30) man who is big/bulked up from the gym. Just what pleases my eyes and hands 😈 - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Quoting 'SimpleNeeds2' Whilst I understand the comments of Tigeroo and Ms Rabbit (I also concur on the great new profile pic), I am somewhat concerned by the remarks that an accentuated physique equated to either greater confidence in oneself or one's pulling power. Narcissism is a personality trait which we all possess in varying degrees. It involves the imposition of the ego over the self image. Despite its popular connection with vanity, its underlying nature is a sense of inadequacy in the core self and the belief that it needs to be built up to compensate for this inadequacy. Taken to its extreme, it becomes a personality disorder. The remark that women did not pay attention to me until I got a ripped body is a typically narcissistic remark, that is, I acquire a special quality, that special quality drew envy/attention/praise from others and that envy/attention/praise made me a better person than before I had that special quality. Whilst it is important to be healthy generally, like all things, physical development can be taken to an extreme. Furthermore the belief that a man/woman is only attractive with the physical attribute means that they firstly do not develop their emotional intelligence in being empathetic to others who are not physically fit, and secondly develops a sense of entitlement which means they become resentful towards people who do not lavish envy/attention/praise on the special quality which they have taken so much effort to acquire. In short, although the person may look aesthetically pleasing in isolation, their obsession with the way they look and the abnormal weight which they give to ephemeral differences mean they are not necessarily the best choice for someone to hook up with. This is a very interesting comment and you make some good points. I would add, however, that it is our society today which is playing a large part in the focus on physical looks and attractiveness as a measure of a person's worth. This is true for both sexes. You don't have to look far to see how physical beauty is lauded and praised; rarely do we see the same amount of attention given to people who may not meet our definition of good looking, but who have great intelligence, compassion, or other worthy non-physical traits. It's no wonder that many people - younger in particular - often strive so hard these days to achieve the 'perfect' body and / or face, and equate that physical attractiveness with confidence and success. This is why the trend these days for women to be told that they are all beautiful, along with campaigns such as the Dove one, actually don't sit all that well with me. Yes I believe that all women should be comfortable with how they look, regardless of whether they meet the societal ideal of beauty. But these campaigns and messages actually just keep reinforcing the focus on physical appearance as the main measure of how someone should feel about themselves and their worth to society as a whole. There are nowhere near enough messages that focus on making women (and men) see their worth in and obtain confidence from their non-physical traits - intelligence, generosity, empathy, etc. etc. It seems that these things are only brought into the conversation when the person has already been 'legitimised' through their physical appearance, a phenomenon which is aptly shown in Tigeroo's example. Just my thoughts, don't expect all to agree with me, and yes I do admit that my opinion is biased by my own experiences, as all opinions are.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    But appearance is what we all see first and the only thing we have to make assumptions or judgements about whether you are attracted to someone else in the first instance. Why do people need to have external reinforcements that they are attractive? If you are brought up with the belief that you matter and are attractive, etc, etc, then maybe we wouldn't be so worried about what others think.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    The guys getting their gear seized these days aren't the old roid freaks, but the new wave of gym junkies looking for the body perfect and need to cheat to get there. 5000 in 2010/11 to 10,000 in 2012/13 is a pretty big spike in anyone's books. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Quoting 'Meeka100' But appearance is what we all see first and the only thing we have to make assumptions or judgements about whether you are attracted to someone else in the first instance. I know, I'm not discounting the role of physical attraction when choosing people to sleep with or form a relationship with. I'm talking in more general terms, particularly in relation to the wider influences on people such as the media, and these days particularly social media.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    cognescenti You have poor taste posting this title.. It's a real illness and not something to refer to as a tool to try and make a point which you didn't even make by using it" Manorexia " try looking up a word before using it willy nilly...... Ignorance... I disagree strongly with alot of you.. Especially the people spouting about six packs and people having no brains because they have good bodies, honestly what a joke.. We both have great bodies and never go to the gym ever! we eat right and do it for us and no one else and on that note never expect the same from anyone.. Oh and PS just because some of you obviously have body issues doesn't mean you have to attack those that you think look good but prefer to attack rather then admire. Accept people for the person they are not the body they have good, bad, fit, fat who cares.. Judge not lest ye be judged..

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Example " PFFFFT to those with a perfect 6pack and perfect gym body." Haters....

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Im good either way, i walk lots and try and take care of myself also, eating properly etc. banging hard bod is great coupled sith intelligence and a sweet perdonality i know alot of guys like that and they are great friends with the luckiest gals. But I also dont mind a man who's cuddly, but not fat asses (ewwww) in a waysome are unable to get rid of the fatty tissue as they may not be well as in diabetes etc i know wat a shallow woman but im just giving my opinion tis all Cuddly, muscley all good with me! So as for those who judge the muscley boys before you get to know them they do have a brain with a great personality.......yes there is the odd wanker, just steer clear, simple!!!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    If guys just stopped acting like dickheads, and pretending to be something they're not, they might find that women are attracted to the genuine side of a man. Don't bullshit yourself through life, cause in the end it will catch up with you... Works both ways. If a woman just wants a dick to play with, they should just go out and buy a good vibrator, at least they're not going to be disappointed, and you continuously hear women complain that they are missing a man in their life. Quality over quantity... Anytime :-) Many people are shallow, (both men and women) when it comes to looks, however I find a woman with a beautiful personality as attractive, if not more, than just having a good body. Living healthy is good,looking good is too, however... If you don't have mental stimulus, why bother ?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    I never had any attention from any members of the opposite sex until I was 19 and had been doing my apprenticeship for a year. I went from being a tall thin nerd who reads and plays computer games to being a tall fairly well built nerd who reads and plays computer games and while i really didnt notice the changes ( I have never been terribly social ) all of a sudden girls started paying attention to me. I have stepped into a gym maybe once or twice in my life and really have no intention of starting if it takes me away from what I am reading lol. I have found that while I have always had a cheeky quirky personality women were only willing to pay attention to it when i got a little easier on the eye and I cannot blame them as I am more likely to choose an unknown book or game if the art on the front cover is appealling....possibly a bad analogy but you know what I mean :D

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Well coming from my own personal experience I'd say it's the body lol. As a larger man I can tell you confidence will get u only so far most of the time. I wasn't always this big and was quite popular with the women when I was a smaller size, and my personality has remained the same. Luckily for me I'm married to a wonderful woman, but wihtout her I'd be experiencing a drought of epic proportions lol. In fact, now she wants to start exploring we're gonna have to get to the gym just to get a look in in maybe a year fromm now.... But on another note, I work with a lot of these young guys who pump protein shakes down and work out daily (though don't work as they're too tired from the gym the night before), and I've never seen such vanity in all my life. Its actually quite sickening tbh. Anyways, there's my two cents worth. Not sour grapes, just facts. I needed to get to the gym anyway, now I have an incentive (I've already lost 9 kilos), but if I ever turn onto one of these guys I seriously hope my wife leaves me for someone who's got time to admire her and not just himself in the mirror lol

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Luckdragon, I agree with you comments although I would add that the problem of the measure of success/attractiveness is not just the physical appearance. After reading your response, I recalled what were the winning ways when I was in my 20's which was in Uni and early professional career. The main source of attraction was the perception of wealth or likelihood of wealth. So the law and med students did better at pulling the girls than the engineers (who are laughing now after the mining boom) because those degrees were seen as a better platform for future success. There were then the wankers who talked themselves up to push ahead at work in our early careers. These people were often classic narcissists. Narcissism is not limited to physical aspects. It extends to all aspects of life. However, in an environment such as RHP where money/social status is not available as a means of differentiation, the physical will be emphasised. I should clarify that I am not against people getting and staying fit. The problem is when it becomes an obsession because the person needs it to validate their own sense of worth in the world. I would also heartily agree with Only1's comments that it gets harder after you pass 30. This is often a huge problem for narcissists as their reliance on physical perfection as en emotional crutch means they suffer crises of confidence as their musculature becomes harder to maintain. This is the crux of my point that an over reliance on a 6 pack to impress the girls rather than a well rounded personality with a modicum of physical fitness is the danger.

  • Dryphuz

    Dryphuz

    10 years ago

    but i don't miss my six pack. I used to play a lot of volleyball and with my broad torso my chest was... for lack of a better word... heroic. I liked what i looked like in a mirror. I had a six pack to go with it, but now that I've softened out a bit both are gone. Having had big pecks i now have man boobs instead. I keep trying to convince myself to start doing daily push ups to get my pecks back, but i really don't care about my six pack. Now i've never been a fitness junkie and I'm not even ashamed of my moobs, i just miss what i used to look like. I don't dislike what i look like in a mirror its just not as impressive. I think too many peoples self respect is tied up in body image. Its obvious and well publicized that women suffer from this, but no one talks about the fact that men are probably just as badly affected, although silently so.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    the start of any relationship starts with sexual attraction its like window shopping if you don't like what's in the window you wont go inside as was mentioned earlier if you like what you see you will more than likely fuck it but if all that comes out of it is dribble you probably wont go back I'm a pretty active guy I go to cross fit 3 times a week I don't do it to look good I do it because it makes me feel good after each work out but the main reason I do it is for work I lift heavy things all day and I work alone the core strength that cross fit gives helps with supporting my back. BLAH BLAH yak yak the thing is if you have a great body you are over the biggest hurdle I did an experiment on another site just to test this theory I took the same profile I have here and put it up on another site with some models body with his head cut off wow what a difference I was popular pity my conscience stepped in so I took it down it was fun while it lasted

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    I totally agree with superfoxxxy! Most men I have met from rhp that fit the description of "gym junkies" tend to look very delicious but there's nothing more unattractive then boring conversation or how many sets they do to get that big.. I love a to see a man that is fit and attractive but also has something intelligent to say :) - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    You are spot on. Shame we haven't met yet ;-) - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    I do a lot of sport and hit the gym on & off for periods of time if I need to make sure i'ready for any particular sporting event because i'm competetive & its fun. I can talk(boy can I talk!) so i've never seen the need to try to look like Arnie to show off. I'm much more inclined to be proud of my full head of hair. lol Anyone can get big but once you're bald, you're bald! :P

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    I just like people who take pride in their appearance. That doesn't mean they have to be muscly and huge. After having kids I want to keep as healthy as possible and I enjoy it as it helps me release stress due to other factors of my life. My thing is teeth. You need to have a nice clean pair of choppers!

  • Smilingwithfun

    Smilingwithfun

    10 years ago

    Gotta love the responses. If you post then you will get responses, shallow or not, as some call them. Is a point of view or a life experience shallow?, I think not. Yes, did the gym thing when younger. Can see both sides of the responses here. Now as a couple of early posters mentioned, would prefer to possess the sparkle in the eye.

  • Antzy

    Antzy

    10 years ago

    Or averaged or large bodied men, I'm just not attracted to... Sorry :(. I like an athletic man... If you have a six pack it's even better! It's very shallow, however, attraction for me needs to be primal and I need to look at you and desire you physically, after the physical view, I also need to admire your mind for me to engage any further... That's just me though... I love natural primal instincts...

  • gazpacho

    gazpacho

    10 years ago

    Obviously, a guy with a sportsman like body, from gym or whatever he does to get it, is enhanced by a sharp mind and a happy disposition.... But you're going to check out his gluteus (or whatever) first. Hugs Gasp.

  • Chillymofo

    Chillymofo

    10 years ago

    We have had a few Gym built guys come in to do a few days labouring for us in the pastBy smoko they are usually spent.There is a difference in muscles gained from 1-2 hours in the gym everyday, and muscles gained from spending all day lifting timber frames, hardwood bearers, lugging wheel barrows full of cement and so on.It's called StaminaIm not a big built bloke, but i have often surprised bigger guys by lifting much heavier and more awkward types of weightsAt 6 foot and 76kg - not much fat on this racehorse!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Like others have said. I'm 44 and not getting younger. I value more than a body. I love sexy and I don't care if there are a few extra pounds added to a frame. I think I'd be intimidated now with a 6 pack. I've fucked a few guys with the requisite 6 packs and it wasn't anything special. A generalisation yes. Some guys think that's all they need to pick up chicks. Sorry, they are wrong!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Personality counts for everything.....:-) I hav to agree wiv jess n tiger n laugh at superfoxxy who sounds to quick to judge others and can't get past herself...health n fitness is the fountain of youth.its..no secret jus the hard road that is less travelled by most.. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Quoting 'whitehotfunxx' cognescenti You have poor taste posting this title.. It's a real illness and not something to refer to as a tool to try and make a point which you didn't even make by using it" Manorexia " try looking up a word before using it willy nilly...... Ignorance... I disagree strongly with alot of you.. Especially the people spouting about six packs and people having no brains because they have good bodies, honestly what a joke.. Sure, anorexia in men is a terrible illness. That's quite obviously not what the OP was talking about. The term Maneroxia in the Urban Dictionary (which you would have found instantly if YOU had looked it up) is also defined as: "A psychological disorder among males where one's self-image is over-inflated to include greater height, weight, strength, intelligence or genital endowment, contrary to one's actual physical appearance, sexual or mental capacity." No person on this forum has mentioned anything about brains, and only a few have mentioned bad attitudes in men who appear overly into their looks. A lot of us have said we either don't find ripped bodies physically attractive; whether that is because they intimidate us, make us feel out of shape ourselves, or we just don't like the look.(I don't find moustaches or dyed hair on men attractive either, that does not make me a hater.) We are all entitled to our opinions (including you of course), that's what makes these forums interesting. Now why don't you tell me how you've never judged a fat person, because you would never assume their obesity is likely due to laziness and a lack of self-control, hmmm?

  • MsSuperFoxy

    MsSuperFoxy

    10 years ago

    Quoting 'Dave03201480' Personality counts for everything.....:-) I hav to agree wiv jess n tiger n laugh at superfoxxy who sounds to quick to judge others and can't get past herself...health n fitness is the fountain of youth.its..no secret jus the hard road that is less travelled by most.. - Posted from rhpmobile Just because I will not support those whose gym life has taken over their them (addicted to gyms) and they put their health at risk, take substances (like muscle drinks, and other substances), don't eat proper meals and all they talk about is gym this and gym that - they just want to get bigger and bigger - their whole attitude is unhealthy and yet you say I can't get past myself and post in a open forum that I don't agree with. So tell me...do you agree with those who are unhealthy who puts their health at risk, take substances to get bigger and bigger and with poor attitudes, like mentioned in my above statement?? I know what's important to me, and seriously I don't want to be around men nor people like that especially those who take substances to get bigger and bigger...I choose not to. It's my choice and I'm not appealed or attracted to these men. Foxy

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    To be fair, that's really not what you said in your first post. Either own what you said or admit you were wrong.

  • MsSuperFoxy

    MsSuperFoxy

    10 years ago

    I do take ownership in my first post....not once have I said I didn't. I just don't believe there is such a thing as the perfect body. Is having a body like Brad Pit going to get women's' attention, and having a perfect 6 pack or perfect gym body?? Nah I don't think so... To me those who think that..to me are complete wankers and dickheads! They do have awful attitudes...especially those who are over the top addicts who go to the gym. There's nothing wrong with me saying that...after all it is an open forum as you say. There are those who do agree with me, and get what I am saying. Foxy

  • MsSuperFoxy

    MsSuperFoxy

    10 years ago

    I remember I was out to dinner with a man (who was a regular gym health junkie) whom I was seeing for a while. We ordered San cow bow from the menu. The poor man couldn't eat anything from the menu in case it interfered with his training and eating regime. To watch a grown man pull out the inside of the lettuce leaves out and force himself to just eat just the leaves actually brought tears to his eyes!! I was like a deer in headlights! Needless to say, there was no common interests after that. Foxy

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    To be honest foxy you would have to ask.brad pitt that ? And I'm guessing you haven't so it goes back to you making assumptions. I'm have empathy for your past experiences but please don't stereotype and stay positive...u attract people into ur life based on ur own personality take a look at ur own life first before making judgement. Let it go for more peace n flow... - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    I like to keep fit and can sometimes get a bit to big and being 6'3 it can be intimidating to women and sometimes men lol. I try to keep that in check because I honestly think if you have a decent physique and add a little muscle that is what most women want ... Guys are more interested in the size of other guys muscles TBH - Posted from rhpmobile

  • MsSuperFoxy

    MsSuperFoxy

    10 years ago

    Thanks for you lovely advice. As for assumptions and sterotyping..naaaaah don't think so, as they say "like attracts like". :) Foxy

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Many people that go to gym also do detrimental things to their insides by taking substances. I see heaps leave the gym and spark a ciggie, we used to sell synthetic cannabis and many would buy that, plus all the steriods and protein shakes full of chemicals. They can't exactly claim it is all about fitness and health when they have no real regard for their inner health. When I went to China, I was on a tour with an American family who pretty much lived off redbull all day, even the kids drank it. They loved the gym and I even babysat their kids while they went. We ended up seeing some chinese doctors who actually told the guy who was only in his 30's that he looked like a strong man on the outside but he was like an old man on the inside. They couldn't get any Redbull because they got to the tour late and we left before they could find anywhere to get any. We ended up giving them some coffee sachets and panadol because they were having serious withdrawals from it. That isn't healthy.