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Many actual swingers? Or just bi-wives?
April 04 2010
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RHP User
15 years ago
Your not alone guys.My wife and I quite often get together with couples - girls or men. She is not bi and always states this up front. However she will play with woman , and does get off from time to time with the right one,It doesn't take away from the situation and she does not " fake it " with the other woman. It does seem to be the accepted for the girls to have a play as part of the nights events - when truth be known she would prefer to be having one or two cocks all nite Personally I prefer to mix the night up with all areas covered , apart from the MM ...so far. I dont think you should just be fuckin the other girl all nite , and visa versa.....anyway thats just us hey S&M
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RHP User
15 years ago
We are and do full swap shame we are just too old for you guys .. but if you look long and hard there must be some real people out there.. good luck with your hunt..hehe N&B
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RHP User
15 years ago
If that has been your overwhelming experience of swinging then that really sucks. I often see couples though where one or other partner is left feeling as useful as an ashtray on a motorcycle. It works the same way if you are the only bi person in a straight crowd. Can you imagine how extremely frustrating it can be for a bisexual man to be standing around with the other guys at a gangbang? ,,, lolz.. sometimes Im not sure if Im bisexual or just too impatient to be straight!! hehe Hugs Stalky
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RHP User
15 years ago
We do full swaps and mrs scc biBut you are right a lot of couples don't want to do full swaps. When we first got into swinging we started with an open relationship and did most of our playing apart. At first we found it hard to finds couples who did full swaps but now we have found lots (well enough) of couples who do full swaps, we have also found a lot of couples that say they don't do a full swap at first however once comfortable they do. It is all about looking and being open about what you want and clear to others about that. I just read your profile and maybe you have changed it because of the expectation of bi play however making judgements on what other people classify as "swingers" does not get you off to a good start. And of course you are right a straight female in the swinging scene is less common then bi or bi curious but keep looking and you will find what you are looking for.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Yes' I hear what you are saying and totally agree.. We are stll waiting to find a happy straight couple who are just as happy to socialise as well as a sexy romp between the sheets if all happy. Having read alot of posts here in the forums' its not too hard to read between the lines when its a bi or her only senario. As much as we would love to visit a club ' we are a reluctant because we feel we would be a lil outta our depth with the bi expectation. It's about time the straight couples got some co operation on this matter for a change... In one of our posts' I mentioned that RHP should give the straight couples a heading of our own... That would save everyone a whole lot of wasted time and messages.. C'MON RHP... Theres a need thats being ignored here..
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Ice_Fire
15 years ago
We are fairly new to this whole scene and so far we have learned that swinging means different things to different people. We have changed our rules on things along the way as we meet and chat with other couples and learn what has worked and what doesn't for them then we go home and chat some more about it and go with what works for us.For example when we first joined RHP we said we would only play together but we found it really hard to find couples to play with (have to get the dynamic for all 4 right) and we have kids so time away was hard too so we decided to try individual fun which works nicely for us.We have had fmf threesomes where i have played with the lady as well and it was comfortable and fun but that doesn't make me bi and i find i am attracted to a person rather than a gender so i am happy to be open to the idea with the right person but by the same token i am totally fine to be with a couple where the other lady is straight and respect their boundaries after all that is what it is all about fun for all.I think the key is to be clear about what your rules for play are and to be open to other couples rules, some don't allow kissing, some want to swap for foreplay but have their own partner for sex some want all in the same room some want to be in separate rooms, for us we have our own rules too but generally we are open to suggestions and willing to try new things if it works GREAT if it doesn't we just don't do that again.As always where sex is concerned communication is the key and fun is the aim of the game, so like stalky said just be patient and things will happen.Good luck (oh and you could always look us up if you like we will do a swap ) have funMrs GC xx
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RHP User
15 years ago
Lol Stalky! Too impatient to be straight....I like that :P Most of the couples we have come across that do not full swap have their reasons and that is fine. It is not what we are looking for and we are upfront about that straight away, however we have met some great (non full swap people) and enjoy sharing a drink or playing a game of pool at CI with them, our even online chat. Sexuality is a funny old thing and there seem to be so many shades of grey. At various stages my profile has gone from experimental to bi then back to not sure. Bi social is not something I would call myself because to me it implies that ff play is just a show put on for those watching. I enjoy foreplay with women, and it really depends on how horny I am at the time and how well the woman and I get along as to how much I will want to play with her. I would be more than happy playing with a couple where the woman is straight because at the end of the day I prefer men...I read your profile and I noticed you also said you would like a couple with few rules. The only rules we really have are that we do not play apart and we will never promise separate room play, it really depends on circumstances...(We have done it once and I have not found myself in a situation since where I would want to) Andy would love nothing more than to play with a straight woman. When we first started playing he often felt surplus to requirement. As though couples wanted a female and had settled on a couple, and he did not like me getting all the attention, understandable when for is it is about both of us. We find now this happens less and less but the idea that a woman really wanted just him, I am certain would be right up his alley! xx Salina
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RHP User
15 years ago
Lol Stalky! Too impatient to be straight....I like that :P Most of the couples we have come across that do not full swap have their reasons and that is fine. It is not what we are looking for and we are upfront about that straight away, however we have met some great (non full swap people) and enjoy sharing a drink or playing a game of pool at CI with them, our even online chat. Sexuality is a funny old thing and there seem to be so many shades of grey. At various stages my profile has gone from experimental to bi then back to not sure. Bi social is not something I would call myself because to me it implies that ff play is just a show put on for those watching. I enjoy foreplay with women, and it really depends on how horny I am at the time and how well the woman and I get along as to how much I will want to play with her. I would be more than happy playing with a couple where the woman is straight because at the end of the day I prefer men...I read your profile and I noticed you also said you would like a couple with few rules. The only rules we really have are that we do not play apart and we will never promise separate room play, it really depends on circumstances...(We have done it once and I have not found myself in a situation since where I would want to) Andy would love nothing more than to play with a straight woman. When we first started playing he often felt surplus to requirement. As though couples wanted a female and had settled on a couple, and he did not like me getting all the attention, understandable when for is it is about both of us. We find now this happens less and less but the idea that a woman really wanted just him, I am certain would be right up his alley! xx Salina
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RHP User
15 years ago
Yeah, I understand everybody is entitled to do things the way they want ... and I guess the word "swinger" has taken on a life of its own ... it used to have a more specific meaning.It's more this website and people profiles ... just doesn't make things clear so you waste a lot of time and get a lot of rejection and other weirdness (some people are obviously too scared to just say "no thanks"). Besides, the whole way these sites are setup is flawed, IMO. You start flirting and conversing with people, but usually based on very limited information and pictures ... and then you get to see their PG, and talk a little and realise you're not attracted (or vice versa) ... and then its all uncomfortable. This is probably why we find swingers clubs more fun. Body language actually communicates an enormous amount of information. But you don't tend to find couples you can have long-term friendships with at clubs. On here, you feel like a piece of meat ... just another object on Ebay.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Yeah. I hate that when guys come on to me because they want me to shag their wife. :p So many games couples play! What chance do we have Trish? Hugs Gaz
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RHP User
15 years ago
We are a straight couple and have hit the same problem....but dont care their loss. Swinging without swapping partners ....Is not swinging This Bi girl stuff, can be just a wish on the males part...insecurity of being actually able to swap partners. And yes we get just as much of run around when we go after a single. Just hang in there and you meet compatable couples. Another problem is saying too much on these forums, we have had the reponse you guys are too experianced for us, after reading your posts! Cheers
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Ice_Fire
15 years ago
Yes it is frustrating when you get asked for face pics, you provide and then they don't reply quite rude really especially when they claim to be looking for friends as well as playmates (if that were true they wouldn't care too much how attractive you are)And really how hard is it to say 'thanks you look nice but i don't think you are what we are looking for'? we are all grown ups here if people dont respond well to your rejection you can always block them in future, we don't tend to take it personally if someone says 'no thanks' but do get a little put off by a no reply.We are yet to experience the club scene ourselves but from what we have heard i think long term friendships are unlikely to be found there.I guess it is all just a numbers game, best of luck
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RHP User
15 years ago
I was discussing this thread with mr sexycountrycpl and he reminded me of the time I asked a couple at a swingers event (a private party) 'why did they come when they only wanted play with each other' - their answer was that liked being watched and they liked watching real people have sex. After they answered I thought 'okay fair enough i get that'' although I did not say that to them I may have pulled some sort of facial expression to that meaning though, but maybe makes me seem really rude to the couple i.e. I was questioning why they attended swinging events. So what I have learnt is that people get into swinging for all sorts of reasons, all of them just as valid (well expect for being talking into it -but that said I am yet to met a couple that I thought that to be the case).When we first got into swinging I liked full swap most of all but now I like all in play situations - more action more interest more touching just more fun. That said I love a full swap.... when I can hear my husband pleasing another women in another room it gets me very excited. This is an interesting thread ... don;t let it be hijacked
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Mr_MrsJones
15 years ago
It is interesting to get people's spin on various things. Since we started this we have met all sorts of people and done a lot of things that we never imagined in the first place. I have to say that I (lady) like the FF thing but I am not attracted to every female that I come accross. I also have to say that at the end of the day I have a strong preference for a penis or two over a vagina. I also don't like playing with women who are merely performing for their husband's benefit. If I want to play with a girl it is because I want to please her not her husband. The most important thing for us is that everyone is included and I feel really uncomfortable in situations where the other couple are both interested in me and lord is left out. I would rather a straight couple and everyone be happy than that!!!!!!!!
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RHP User
15 years ago
Hey guys, Most forum threads seem to get of course, but this is a word of confidence to you both anyway.... We have encountered identical problems in the past and still do currently in some regards, due to our "Straightness" and lack of flexibility within the bisexual realms - typically the female gender! While we have persisted and found quite a network of friends, it still seemed like a very hard bridge to cross in the beginning. We found it slowly got easier, the more people we met and the more people realised our situation. BTW you have an extremely hot profile, we often come to QLD and we would loveee to hit you up! Keep chugging, there is plenty of folk like us out there! xxx Mr & Mrs Shy!
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RHP User
15 years ago
I have been pondering this forum for a few days, and have come to the conclusion that while you can be a straight swinging couple, sometimes it can be too run of the mill. Mr F and I have played with a straight couples, and we do the full swap, this not a problem, but if you prefer separate rooms, and straight sex only, it ends up being vanilla sex for 2 only. We find it is always best for us when we can participate with each other as a group. Mrs F
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RHP User
15 years ago
I think the issue they are having is that they play with a couple to find that suddenly the other female doesn't want to play with Mrhotwifemikki at all, and he is left high and dry. Just cos a couple are both straight doesn't mean it has to be a straight swap but far too many couples really only want bifemale play and because the single girl is apparently as rare as a unicorn, sometimes couples will hook up with another couple in the hope of playing with the mrs only and they leave mr out. It is not nice and those couples should be more upfront to begin with.
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RHP User
15 years ago
We are a couple with a bi wife - but that is just being honest about our sexuality, it doesn't mean she expects bi action when we meet other couples, and yes we like to swap partners. Our only limitations really, are that we will only swing in the same room, and that is because we enjoy watching ach other get off, as well as enjoying what we are getting up to ourselves.The beauty of sites like RHP is that there are people for everybody - you just have to be honest when you set out as to what you are wanting :)
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