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Mindfulness
January 25 2016
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RHP User
9 years ago
About staying in touch with friends 😊 When I think about them I send a message or give them a call. It's something that In the past got lost for me, when life got busy. Now I do it without fail at least once a week, Friends are important to me. 😊
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AnnieWhichway
9 years ago
"Mindfulness' is a hot topic in Western psychology: increasingly recognised as an effective way to reduce stress, increase self-awareness, enhance emotional intelligence, and effectively handle painful thoughts and feelings." Copied from the happinessstrap.com. I practice through Transcendental Meditation and was also taught by a phycologist via hypnosis. Inner peace achievable in times of stress and depression. Makes a difference when you get into a habit of practice but at times when i most need it, forget to do it.
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MsSuperFoxy
9 years ago
Mindfulness to me, is being fully mindful and respect of not just yourself, others too. Putting yourself in other people's shoes, observing the environment, smelling the surrounds, using your senses to pick up signals to be more thoughtful and kind to others and yourself. I believe if it's practiced daily it helps to keep things and daily living in perspective, reality and healthy mind living. Ms Foxy
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MrMechanic
9 years ago
A derivative of Buddhism some criticism of it. quoting Various scholars have criticized how mindfulness has been defined or represented in recent western psychology publications.These modern understandings depart significantly from the Buddha’s own account of mindfulness and authoritative commentators in the Theravada and Indian Mahayana traditions. The popularisation of mindfulness as a "commodity"has been criticised, being termed "McMindfulness" by some critics According to Safran, the popularity of mindfulness is the result of a marketing strategy: "McMindfulness is the marketing of a constructed dream; an idealized lifestyle; an identity makeover." According to Purser and Loy, mindfulness is not being used as a means to awaken to insight in the "unwholesome roots of greed, ill will and delusion," but reshaped into a "banal, therapeutic, self-help technique" that has the opposite effect of reinforcing those passions. While mindfulness is marketed as a means to reduce stress, in a Buddhist context it is part of an all-embracing ethical program to foster "wise action, social harmony, and compassion." The privatisation of mindfulness neglects the societal and organisational causes of stress and discomfort, instead propagating adaptation to these circumstances.According to Bhikkhu Bodhi, "[A]bsent a sharp social critique, Buddhist practices could easily be used to justify and stabilize the status quo, becoming a reinforcement of consumer capitalism." The popularity of this new brand of mindfulness has resulted in the commercialization of meditation through self-help books, guided meditation classes, and mindfulness retreats.
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social_suicide
9 years ago
So after the first round I did a bit reading and here is one opinion I found "A lot of atheists, humanists, and other nonbelievers are leery or dismissive of meditation and mindfulness. Some see it as an irretrievably religious or spiritual practice, and want no part in it" I had mistakenly confused humanism with mindfulness. Yes I'm an atheist which is maybe the reason "mindfulness" was not on my radar. mindfulness-based stress reduction (MBSR) seems to be a secular approach, this is what SS was referring too, "It’s commonly taught in medical settings, presented not as a method for spiritual enlightenment, but as a set of physical and mental techniques that can produce specific physical and mental effects". After some reading it seems that its very beneficial for the individual. Unfortunately "mindfulness" is beyond me, I have over the years tried and failed at meditation, I have stared at candles, used tapes, had temple bells quietly chiming, attempted the lotus position till my legs went numb, burnt herbs while being surrounded by crystals, oh and bought quite a few books on the subject. However if you could consider daydreaming a form of meditation then I'm a gold medalist contender for sure.
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social_suicide
9 years ago
Quoting 'SuperFoxxxy' Mindfulness to me, is being fully mindful and respect of not just yourself, others too. Putting yourself in other people's shoes, observing the environment, smelling the surrounds, using your senses to pick up signals to be more thoughtful and kind to others and yourself. I believe if it's practiced daily it helps to keep things and daily living in perspective, reality and healthy mind living. Ms Foxy Hey that's what I thought it was as well, looks we both confused humanism with mindfulness. I like our version even though its wrong.
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MsSuperFoxy
9 years ago
I like this bit.. ""wise action, social harmony, and compassion." 👍👍 Ms Foxy
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RHP User
9 years ago
Yes, I would consider daydreaming a form of meditation !
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Mctag9
9 years ago
To me Mindfulness is being in the moment, being aware of your immediate environment and its effect and feelings you are currently experiencing - Practicing mindfulness is being promoted to reduce the effects of Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) and to help ground yourself when you recognise the onset of an anxeity attack or similar.....
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MsSuperFoxy
9 years ago
Well I'll be... I've learnt something new today. So there is a difference between being "humanism and mindfulness. I always thought tho, mindfulness is still using the mind, no matter if being human or mindful. I do like our ideas too. Anything using the mind to enrich the soul is pretty good in my eyes. Ms Foxy
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RHP User
9 years ago
I recently attended an abstract art all day workshop... creating and splashing paint around without having to plan or think about it was a wonderful experience. Just following the shapes, contours and patterns that developed by themselves. It was free flowing and liberating. It created an inner joy for me and I found a new way of looking and appreciating my surroundings. OP I decided to do this workshop after being given some of those adult colouring in books you mentioned. Whether it was mindfulness or mindless I thoroughly enjoyed the experience. LG
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RHP User
9 years ago
I googled mindfulness vs mindful and the writing in the heading was the main message I received that I thought explained the differences we are seeing here. Cool. :-) .Damn Annie, I'm missing the ''Here you go Peaches", that was in your take 1, lol. Nah, thanks for reposting. :-D I don't think it's an easy practice to take on Annie, but yours is a fine description of a very difficult practice as you say. .Thanks for the encouragement Foxy. :-) And your post. I do tend to see the concept of mindfulness on a holistic level similar to you, I think. . Thanks Probity, I'm sure I looked at that wiki or a post very similar yesterday while I was trying to write a post on here. It reminds me some of the popular concept of karma. I question wishing bad karma on anyone because of the bad karma I feel like that should bring on me if I was wishing bad karma on anyone. When that idiot speeds by down the street, I pray he doesn't hurt anyone, including himself. The course I was doing and will attend a day course for this later this year with a woman who is apparently a pioneer of the mindfulness movement included looking back over old 'messages' we'd received from society and disputing those. It was an exciting concept to look beyond old messages and be able to let some of them go. I'm in a place now where I'm challenging as never before and life has never felt so complete. :-).Lol Social, I'd consider daydreaming a form of meditating for sure. Meditating in the form of sitting/laying with your eyes closed trying to keep a quiet mind is not for everyone, I know I had a hard time with it initially with the fear it raised as far as wanting to be aware of my surroundings and not of the dark thoughts wanting to raise their ugly heads while my mind was unprepared went. That was over 20 years ago, I can do it now though. Lol, I even got praise for my posture when previously I'd been told I looked too uptight. I don't see it on any level of religious experience though that was part of what was offered to me those 20 years ago, lol..I agree with you Foxy, "wise action, social harmony, and compassion". Beautiful, right. <3.And thanks to you too for reposting Summer. That was a beautiful post to read. For your post, I can imagine the clearing of clutter mentally, making space and peace in the mind, and the awareness of being a part of our surroundings. .Leo Girl, heya. Lol, and I do wonder if the mindlessness is part of the magic. And love that those colouring in books led you to such joy. How beautiful is it to return to a different experience of childhood. .On my own behalf, I was reading articles on meditating while washing dishes many moons ago, washing away the anger or whatever. I've taken a long time to appreciate that one. ;-).Curiously, I'm watching a "Walking Dead" episode that focuses on Aikido, a form of martial arts that means, not to kill. Season 6, episode 4. Thanks again everyone, Peachy.
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RHP User
9 years ago
is not digging your heels into my calfs while I'm fucking you missionary..... :p - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
9 years ago
I define that as being aware of the world around you, but not consciously. For me its about getting back in touch with those basic instincts we are born with. We are are born with those gut feelings but we learn to either tune them out or ignore them. I meditate regularly as part of the martial arts. This is basically to get back in tune with those gut feelings so if your gut is telling you something is wrong, you learn to listen. I look to achieve mindfulness by means of physical activity. Be it in the gym, going through kata (which is basically Tai Chi but can also be done at full speed and strength). Always feel 100% better when I am done
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RHP User
9 years ago
Do I get to wear spurs? no, no, wai! Why would we have baby cows in the bed. No, really, I don't care how suave you come across as, just no. :-Peachy
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RHP User
9 years ago
get em in, put em up....rawhide!!!!! :p - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
9 years ago
I like the idea of getting in tune with our instinct Themac. I feel like we have gone a long way from there as we 'progressed'. Peachy :-)
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MrMechanic
9 years ago
Ride em inRide em out
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RHP User
9 years ago
to me also means owning your own emotions. "you made me feel bad" Mindfulness means you ask "why did I choose to feel bad?" It means being aware of and owning your choices.
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RHP User
9 years ago
I agree with all of your above. It's all a part of accepting responsibility for what we do and say and how we feel..Easier said than done but quite freeing when you realise how much choice you actually have. Peachy
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RHP User
9 years ago
Sam Sargent, Our Wellbeing Expert,, explains why she prefers kind and nurturing intentions over New Year’s resolutions..While I love the idea of ‘new year’s resolutions’, I can’t help but be reminded about the concept of 'equanimity' that my meditation teacher shared with us..Equanimity means observing sensations without craving pleasant sensations and without aversion for unpleasant sensations. For example, after a few hours of sitting on your backside in meditation, pain may become present in your back. The idea behind this is that ‘nothing is permanent’ so to learn the art of equanimity will essentially prevent misery from arising..All those feelings throughout the body, whether they be pleasant or painful, will pass in time; and by practicing this idea of equanimity throughout the body helps us to apply it to our day-to-day life and living. That is, to not have cravings or aversions for any external things in our life so that we don’t set ourselves up for misery and disappointment. This idea also helps us to remain in the present moment so we’re not living in the past or hoping what the future may or may not hold..I must confess, the idea of equanimity has been a challenging one for me to grasp over the years. The thought that kept consuming me was “if we don’t crave the good stuff then aren’t we just being apathetic and not enjoying the good stuff?” Or, “if we don’t desire changes in our life and living, then aren’t we denying the very drive and creativity that pumps through our veins?”.After much pondering, stumbling, and more pondering I’ve come to this … that it’s all about being grateful for what is; being present so as to enjoy each moment and truly experience life while it is here and now..'What has this got to do with new year’s resolutions?', you might be wondering. Everything!.What if you used this new year as an opportunity to be grateful for what is? And in terms of resolutions, what if they were redefined as mindful intentions?.Perhaps it’s simply a matter of semantics, but I feel it is much deeper and powerful than that. When we set an intention based on the foundations for having gratitude for what is, we are doing so without the judgment that something is ‘wrong’ with us..For example, a common choice/demand/resolution at this time of year is to get fit or lose weight. But what if it was slightly tweaked to, “this year I intend to nurture my body with healthy food and movement each day”. Can you feel the difference in how one is a judgment and the other an invitation to be present, kind and nurturing to yourself?
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RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'PeachyPearL'For example, a common choice/demand/resolution at this time of year is to get fit or lose weight. But what if it was slightly tweaked to, “this year I intend to nurture my body with healthy food and movement each day”. Can you feel the difference in how one is a judgment and the other an invitation to be present, kind and nurturing to yourself? I'd say that the former is a statement of an end goal whereas the latter is a statement of a method, and that neither are inherently a "judgement". If "get fit" is a judgement and bad, then "nurture my body with healthy food" is equally a judgmental statement about the person's diet. The tweaked statement sounds like an invitation to listen to whale sounds, pan flutes and engage in wanky semantics, over whether stating that being all that I can be is an affirmation of potential greatness, or a negative judgement about unrealised potential in the current state.
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RHP User
9 years ago
I feel like the former (get fit/lose weight) is a judgement on the self that says "You are unfit / fat", where the latter (this year I intend to nurture my body with healthy food and movement each day) recognises that we care about the choices about what we put into and do with our bodies without shaming our body. .Peachy :-)
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RHP User
9 years ago
Could be seen as spiritual materialism,it's common amongst some so called "spiritual " people to blather on about what they do,Westerners love this,the collecting of courses,initiations etc. To me it means nothing.I spent over twenty- five years living and working in and around Tibetan Buddhist communities and did meet some truly amazing and humble people ...to me being mindful is being aware,being conscious of your thoughts and actions,being kind to yourself and others..there is no point in being any other way. It is possible to change your neural pathways by training yourself to think differently,to stop being attached to the negative emotions anger,jealousy,etc....xxFreya
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RHP User
9 years ago
Could be seen as spiritual materialism,it's common amongst some so called "spiritual " people to blather on about what they do,Westerners love this,the collecting of courses,initiations etc. .To me it means nothing.I spent over twenty- five years living and working in and around Tibetan Buddhist communities and did meet some truly amazing and humble people ....to me being mindful is being aware,being conscious of your thoughts and actions,being kind to yourself and others..there is no point in being any other way. It is possible to change your neural pathways by training yourself to think differently,to stop being attached to the negative emotions anger,jealousy,etc....xxFreya .I did learn that about neural pathways in another course I did in the last couple of years Freya. That is also an important aspect of the mindfulness course run by the lady I mentioned in my OP. Another one of those courses I've been doing since my first born was in primary school. I can't say I've ever noticed the attitude you're talking about in any of the courses I've attended over that time. Most people were there because of the pain in their lives/past. And most of the people who facilitated seemed to be there to see us leave a little bit better prepared to deal with the world than we were before. Peachy :-)
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RHP User
9 years ago
If you haven't already seen it. The film What the Bleep Do We Know ,is really worth a look.It was made in 2004 xxFreya
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RHP User
9 years ago
I wonder if you can train out hypocrisy or elitism ? Just thinking aloud.
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RHP User
9 years ago
I did find a write up about that movie, as well as watching the beginning of it. Which led me to also look into the differences between East vs West mindfulness and think I can safely agree, we do come from different places. .There's a guy called Springer who has a lot to say. I like his approach, as I understand it. Not disparaging of the Western approach but insistent it needs to be understood as different from the Eastern approach which is not necessarily our thing. My rough understanding of what I read. . Perhaps it’s simply a matter of semantics, but I feel it is much deeper and powerful than that. When we set an intention based on the foundations for having gratitude for what is, we are doing so without the judgment that something is ‘wrong’ with us.. And S, maybe his descriptive could be better phrased. But Part of what I liked about that write up is the above. It's not the be all and end all and not trying to put itself out to be. . Quoting '50wetfigs' Just thinking aloud. You know you could hurt yourself doing things like that, don't ya 50. Not like it matters, but how nice not to have to decide whether I should use a capital letter for your name when you haven't used a letter at all. It's the little things. Peachy
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RHP User
9 years ago
Mr Fifty to you Peaches. 😘
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RHP User
9 years ago
If you're going to be particular, I'm thinking it's Mr Figs. Peachy
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RHP User
9 years ago
I described myself as clay recently, and considering with mindfulness, it's all about journey, I feel even more now like that was the perfect description for me as a pot on Freya's thread. I am ever changing and resilient. I can dry out and crack up and yet, with enough tears still have the ability to be clay again. Peachy
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RHP User
9 years ago
The invention of the cay pot would have been the most significant invention ever.So many different purposes and uses.Clay can stay damp for a long time if treated in the right way.xxFreya
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RHP User
9 years ago
Thank you. Peachy 🍑💋
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