M39
Old School
January 23 2013
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RHP User
12 years ago
Persistence? After she has said no and given someone the cold shoulder. God single men are serial pests aren't they! 😜
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RHP User
12 years ago
Persistence? After she has said no and given someone the cold shoulder. God single men are serial pests aren't they! 😜
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RHP User
12 years ago
I think you're first paragraph is a little ambigious so to clarify... The forum post you're talking about was from the point of view of a male.... not a female... it was his opinion of women at nightclubs.... And to answer the question ... no... If i say no i mean no. Persistance = a pest. And i wont accept a drink or a dance to please any man or to not be rude... I can politely decline... Course if i'm interested, thats a different story. At 27, i wouldnt have thought discussing dating with an 80 year old would be leading to any tips... lovely to hear the old stories but.... nooooo we're in the 21st century my friend.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'Mischeviouslad' Remember, a woman is not rejecting YOU when she isnt interested.... because she doesnt know YOU.... she is rejecting your method of approach.... so theres no need to take it personally. But you CAN learn from it. Or she might be rejecting you based on your looks, of course :) 1) If I get groped in a crowded bar, I get pretty feisty. 2) If I get approached with courtesy, I respond with courtesy, including declining with a gracious smile. 3) If he flirts and I'm interested I will, as DG said, test him a little. Make him work for it just a little. Find out if there's substance beneath his moves. 4) If he flirts and I'm not interested, refer to point 2. 5) If he's crude or vulgar I frown and ignore. Not worth my effort either way. By and large, men don't have the manners or courtesy of the older eras, so I think the 'never decline a dance request' model is outdated. Too many serial pests that we'd prefer to avoid. A lot of women don't have attractive manners either, but I think courtesy and grace in the dating game goes a long way.
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RHP User
12 years ago
say no,that is usually what they mean.If you disregard this, then you will be perceived not just as a pest ,but a threat....very unattractive. Your 80 year old friend is a member of a generation of women who were socialized to be nice,compliant even,but this is the 21st century OP women actually get to have a choice,we no longer have to be nice ....not unless we want to be of course.
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RHP User
12 years ago
BALLS AND PERSISTENCE do not pay off....it's a Deal Breaker. Old school manners...I give a good whippin (when required)
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RHP User
12 years ago
The Pickup Artist...burn this book now
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'Freya13' The Pickup Artist...burn this book now Hell, I'll even buy the kerosene! Natural charm, charisma and conversational ability go along way with me - and a bit of confidence - as long as you don't come across as an arrogant dickhead.....which frankly, most guys in a nightclub do!I always think people are better off being their natural self - but sadly it appears a lot of men (and women too, don't get me wrong) are naturally dickheads.
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RHP User
12 years ago
...on time and leave an apple on her desk. Worse case basis in the old school way of things was that you might get a good mark for your efforts, if you get lucky she'll come to you and thank you for the apple.Seemed to work for Adam and Eve...just don't be a snake.
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inspirit
12 years ago
just tricking love a good stand off though..... play begins in the mind... right
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RHP User
12 years ago
I tend to find women like to test us men.If you ask to buy a lady a drink or to chat and she says" no,"its what is said next ,by you that will dictate your chances.I usually say "well i hope you have a great night,sorry to bother you and good luck"The amount of times women have come back in 1/2 and hour or so and asked "well where is my drink" is amazing.I can always have a good chuckle and can talk the ear of an elephant.I think most guys do me a favour in the way they act when rejected,some get aggressive and name call ect.IDK i think women can see men for who we are or in my case they just want a free drink haha .I try not to pressure women ,i let them make up their mind ,but tell them where i stand IE i would love to get to know you ,but will leave that up to you ,if you feel comfie with that..A women's input on this point would be nice
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RHP User
12 years ago
It takes less then a minute to work it it out. If you do not click and there is a stand off'ish stance forget it.People are either interest in you or not. Men and women are very much the same. You know straight away, if you don't then its not working. Back off, forget it.It is rare, but when it works, oh then go go go and enjoy. In my view at a club (pick up joint) if you are not naked, or interlocked within half an hour then there is no point wasting energy, or just become friends. Passion is instant and never hard work. The great lovers I have met where instant and easy (sorry don't mean it like "easy" in the slut type way) why waste time playing that game. We are made to tango, but we must be in step, and it must be easy to do. Gosh some women cant dance my way at all. So what, no one can have everyone.OP guess you have a little maturation to do before you can find that. And no such thing as a perfect pickup line. Just be your self. There is for the majority of us a tomorrow.
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Paradisepair
12 years ago
I will respond with friendliness but that doesn't mean they'll get anything but a conversation out of me.- Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
divorcing your partner was a no-no, you would both just stick it out because that's what society expected of you. I think understanding body language is enormously helpful in these situations, most women have it down to a tee. Speaking for myself I can usually tell when a bloke is interested in me by the way he is looking at me, and this is before he has even approached me, if I am interested I'll keep glancing back, but it's all in the way you are looking at him, sometimes when you notice someone looking at you, you will check them out a few times just to be sure, it's knowing the difference between the "Oh god no he is definitely looking at me, brace myself to give a nice thanks, but no thanks" and "Yes!! he's definitely interested yes, yes, yes!!" the latter is usually a long and lingering holding eye contact stare with a slight smile and plenty of them, the former is usually a quick not holding eye contact stare and then a considerable lengthy time between looks, sort of like you are trying to avoid their stare. Most men have no clue about reading body language, probably a biological thing as it seems to be pretty widespread, either that or it's the beer goggles fogging up. The above are right, to be persistent when told no is just annoying and can make a night unpleasant.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'SassyMissM' I think you're first paragraph is a little ambigious so to clarify... The forum post you're talking about was from the point of view of a male.... not a female... it was his opinion of women at nightclubs.... And to answer the question ... no... If i say no i mean no. Persistance = a pest. And i wont accept a drink or a dance to please any man or to not be rude... I can politely decline... Course if i'm interested, thats a different story. At 27, i wouldnt have thought discussing dating with an 80 year old would be leading to any tips... lovely to hear the old stories but.... nooooo we're in the 21st century my friend. Thanks for your input, I was assigned to talk to her about another subject- but being an 80 year old she enjoys tell old stories. Also, what's wrong with talking to an 80 year-old about dating? Because she's 80 and that makes she's less of a person?
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'Blindman67'The great lovers I have met where instant and easy (sorry don't mean it like "easy" in the slut type way) why waste time playing that game. We are made to tango, but we must be in step, and it must be easy to do. Gosh some women cant dance my way at all. So what, no one can have everyone.OP guess you have a little maturation to do before you can find that. And no such thing as a perfect pickup line. Just be your self. There is for the majority of us a tomorrow. I have met one or two women that I just got along naturally from the beginning, even without having to trying to get to know each other first. The first time we met was like we had known each other for years. Too bad I had to part with them. Being mature or not- I have done it.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Or it could just be another example of some of the games people play.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'Dieselnoi' Quoting 'SassyMissM' Thanks for your input, I was assigned to talk to her about another subject- but being an 80 year old she enjoys tell old stories. Also, what's wrong with talking to an 80 year-old about dating? Because she's 80 and that makes she's less of a person? OP you have taking what i said the wrong way and are putting words in my mouth now... A person's age does NOT make them less of a person - you said that not me.... And there is nothing wrong with talking to an 80 year old in fact i said they have some great stories to tell.... i said i doubted you would gain any helpful tips... times have changed
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'Freya13'The Pickup Artist...burn this book now Us ladies can actually see right through this crap.
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RHP User
12 years ago
If someone has gone to to the trouble of writing me a message on here I think it is just courtesy to reply.
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RHP User
12 years ago
I don't think anyone was saying based on her age that she doesn't count.(absolutely take my hat off to the older generation theres a lesson to be learnt right there in perseverance, strength and humbleness...) More to do with the era that she grew up in. Men and women were raised with different morals and values back then. Women were considered an 'old maid' and destined to be left on the shelf if they weren't married by 22. It stood to reason that you would quickly find someone, if he were a 'good bloke' and you knew he was going to be capable of looking after you and a family that was often enough. The same goes for men, if he thought the woman was lovely, homely and mother/domestic material then you would snap her up. These days we don't have to just settle for that, we can find someone who totally rocks our boat in all ways, and we have as long as we want to find it. I can't personally say that I've tested a man's intentions before, I'm either interested or I'm not, I do not go out of my way to be rude, and will have a conversation if prompted, however as someone so simply put it, that does not mean 'you are in' and that is where the all important previously mentioned body language comes in... learn to read the signals. In fact that's a whole' nother post. On a mission...
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Playful2looking
12 years ago
I am no good at picking up women; anyhow they are too heavy hurt ya back. I dont think night clubs are a good place to meet up with either sex. male or female. In my job I talk to 50 to 90 year old women every day. Most have a lot to say and are interesting some are boring and have chip on their shoulder.
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