Oral Sex and Safe Sex

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  RHP User

  14 years ago

  And I cant wait to read the responses. Shouldnt a guy wear a condom for a head job if he is going to wear one for penertration? and as you said The guy then laid on his back and the TG rimmed him before she gave him anal using a condom. ???????

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  RHP User

  14 years ago

  from anyone to anyone is a risk in itself. . I'm not actually sure what a condom protects against that isn't potentially transmittable via unprotected oral sex, but I'd be interested to know the answer if anyone knows.

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  RHP User

  14 years ago

  We answered that question last year what we do, But got heaps from other RHP members so we would suggest the answers people give is a case of "Do what we say" We have a big question mark ....everything you get from unprotected sex viginal or anal penetration you can pretty much get from oral. But in terms of risk unprotected: we reckon highest being anal, viginal, then oral rating the lowest. Then toss in lifestyle choices of those you chose to play with....sure they can tell lies . and obviously at a party or club you cant get into the lifestyle choices so the highest level of protection is warranted vs for example a couple you have known for quite a while and no red lights have became apparent. Thats a indication of our way of handling. Also consider: The guy recieves oral unprotected does not give oral but he wears a condom for penertration, Who was the only person put at risk? .......Bit selfish isnt he!

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  RHP User

  14 years ago

  In virutually all types of intercourse be it oral, vaginal or anal...you can be exposed to any number of the same sorts of diseases that you would expect if you practise unprotected sex of any type, so no need to list them all. The chance of exposure will vary to some degree based on the practise of course but none the less...the potential still exists. One of the things that latex condoms will prevent is a blood-to-blood transfer of viruses again that we all know about but are surprsiningly fragile and subject to morbidity via even small changes in temperature or exposure to air. Condoms like the Lambskins are much more comfortable but only prevent pregnancy and not disease transfer...and certain forms of a virus or bacteria like e. coli are present in our bodies in various locations but become unfriendlies if they end up some where else. | Quoting 'irresponsibility' I'm not actually sure what a condom protects against that isn't potentially transmittable via unprotected oral sex So where do you draw the line? There probably is no 100% solution unless we all wear latex condoms and dental dams, but then are you really getting out of the experience what you want to in the first place? Maybe that is where nothing replaces getting to know you partner (or potential) and observing everything from that perspective and more so personal hygeine. Too, if we all agree that we are in the same game...it would not be unreasonable to expect that we look after ourselves with a regular health check no matter how careful with think we might have been and at least be sure that you aren't bringing something to the table that you would not want to be served to you by someone else. | No, I would not "take their word for it" as that is a very high risk practise in itself...but do look after myself regularly and if I had any doubt, would take myself out of the game until I was sure. | I guess safe sex means the responsibility for prevention lies in how well we look after ourselves before we loose ourselves completely in the moment and become.....overwhelmingly irresponsible?| I'd even drink a toast to that.

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  14 years ago

  Stalky will probably slam me for this but how many people really wear condoms or use dental dams when having oral sex?? In all seriousness? Sometimes I do wonder - why bother with condoms at all when you have sex. But of course I do. xxMeeka

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  14 years ago

  Chin up, Meeka. The folks that make them are using them too and are looking in to the whole "totally safe sex thing" so as long as you don't buy those cheap sex toys direct to your door from China (honest, Rero is a knock off...just like a Lorex watch) and never order Viagra from an online pharmacy in Mexico...you be fine. | Quoting 'Meeka100' Sometimes I do wonder - why bother with condoms at all when you have sex. Ansell is almost there and it's rumoured that they will launch a new crystal clear total body latex condom very soon. Just get naked with one or more friends, grab all your favourite toys and Viagra in one hand and roll the thing down from head to toe with the other....and go for glory. I know, that doesn't sound like that much fun either...but by next year they have promised to have one out that will be big enough for two so you can get in there and just shag each other senseless. Not completely safe...but at least you won't have to worry about the other people in the room. | Like they say, life's a bitch and then you die... | ...I think I will try to avoid that last part for while, thanks.

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  14 years ago

  Quoting 'Meeka100' Stalky will probably slam me for this but how many people really wear condoms or use dental dams when having oral sex?? In all seriousness? Sometimes I do wonder - why bother with condoms at all when you have sex. But of course I do. xxMeeka Dont worry about others, theirs go where I will not allow mine to go, But it sometimes complains stands up to me, so I strangle it and it spits and carries on then agrees and backs down and relises ....I know best for it!

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  14 years ago

  Sorry - but there is a glaring nomenclature error that needs clearing up (because it's potentially offensive). To Quote MistressT "A transgendered male had another male performing oral sex on her". Since you used the pronoun 'her' then I think you meant to say "a transgendered female"....not "male". A male to female transgender (M2F) is a WOMAN and the pronoun is 'she' A female to male transgender (F2M) is a MAN and the pronoun is 'he' Now that I've got that sorted!...in response to Meeka100 ....YESSSSS people DO use condoms and dental dams during oral sex!!! OMG - I wouldn't be caught dead doing those things unprotected. I've lived in Ethiopia - I've seen the horrifying reality of HIV. Also - for your information, I've met a couple of HIV positive guys on this and other sites. Although those guys do insist on having protected sex (oral and other), they DONT disclose to their partners their HIV status. I'm sure there are plenty of other guys on here who don't disclose and who don't insist on using protection. I also use dental dams when I'm going down on women (unless she's my girlfriend and been tested for everything). Sure, it feels like licking gladwrap, but I prefer it to swollen lymph glands, diarrhea, sever weight loss, fever, night sweats, blurred vision, skin lesions, mouth ulcers, Pneumocystis carinii pneumonia (PCP), lipdystrophy....you know, all the usual HIV horror. Not to mention all other STD's.

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  uneventful

  14 years ago

  Quoting 'JustEnough' Also consider: The guy recieves oral unprotected does not give oral but he wears a condom for penertration, Who was the only person put at risk? .......Bit selfish isnt he!. . . . The truth is .. THEY WERE BOTH AT RISK .... so not he was not being selfish ... . She could well have caught something from him during the unprotected oral sex ... BUT ... he could well have also caught something from her ... as some STI live in the throat .. CHLYMADIA is the main one ... so .. both were at equal risk ...

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  14 years ago

  As someone who spends a great deal of time treating clients for sexually transmitted infections, I can say that I have never treated anyone who has caught an infection from engaging in unprotected oral-genital sex. That's not to say it can't happen, because it certainly can, but personal experience tells me that such occurrences are rare.The "big three" that I generally have to treat clients for are chlamydia, gonorrhoea, and trichomoniasis. They are very common in the general populace, but left untreated can cause damage to the reproductive tract. You may not necessarily have symptoms, so regular sexual health check ups are important. However they are easily treated with a stat (once off) dose of antibiotics, so if detected (and treated) early aren't of any real concern.Something to note is the transmission of the herpes simplex virus, which can be transmitted even with condom use if the person is in a viral shedding stage. It's not completely the end of the world if you do contract it (as it is manageable should the worse happen), but it is certainly a damned nuisance you can do without. You can get immunised against Hepatitis B, so do so if you aren't already.Syphilis is easily treated with antibiotics, but is generally terminal if left untreated. However, the good thing is you'll certainly know you've got it, so there are no excuses for letting it get to the end (terminal) stage.HIV is of course always a concern, but even within my client group (that has contact with a population group that has a high rate of HIV) is it relatively rare. Anal sex without condoms is the highest risk sexual activity when it comes to contracting HIV. Oral sex (to females) is quite safe as vaginal juices contain almost no viral load, and saliva damages the virus. Oral sex (to males) does carry some risk, but it is relatively minor. The best way to safe guard yourself is condom use. Failing that, avoid brushing your teeth or flossing within two hours of performing oral sex, and prior to performing oral sex rinse your mouth out with a strong salt water solution. If you have any cuts, ulcers, or abrasions you will most definitely know about it. If it doesn't sting, then you are generally right to go! (obviously if it does sting, use protection, or engage in another form of activity). People with oral piercings also need to be particularly careful. Having a cold sore is also a no-no....and off the top of my head, that's about the gist of it really. Of course there are other nasties such as genital warts, but if on visual (and olfactory) inspection something isn't just quite right the easiest thing to do is to simply decline to be sexually involved with them. In my opinion it's much more preferable to risk offending somebody (by tactfully calling a halt to proceedings) than to put my own health and wellbeing at risk.

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  14 years ago

  Quoting 'ninjaxxx' Sorry - but there is a glaring nomenclature error that needs clearing up (because it's potentially offensive). To Quote MistressT "A transgendered male had another male performing oral sex on her". Since you used the pronoun 'her' then I think you meant to say "a transgendered female"....not "male". A male to female transgender (M2F) is a WOMAN and the pronoun is 'she' A female to male transgender (F2M) is a MAN and the pronoun is 'he' The phrase I used was "trangendered male". I used this to indicate that the person in question was dressed and made up to look like a female but was still essentially male by the fact that this person still had a penis and testes. Since this person was receiving fellatio from a male, I did not want to confuse the issue by using the pronoun "she" without indicating that the person was still in fact a male. Had I merely referred to this person as transgender without giving any indication of the original sex of the person it would have confused those individuals who do not know what the term "transgender" actually means. My phrasing was in no way offensive and men that transfer their gender to become women should be referred to as "she" which is what I did. Had the I used the term "transgendered female" then he would have to have been performing cunilingus which was not the case. Some of my clients are transgender so I do know what I am talking about.Anyone else confused?

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  RHP User

  14 years ago

  I had forgotten the trichomoniasis and didn't realise that vaginal fluid had a low viral count for HIV so thanks for the information. As a professional I cover everything in condoms and don' t exchange body fluid or let my clients have oral to genital contact. Maybe I am playing it waaaaay too safe but I would never forgive myself if I passed anything on to my partner.One question though - how easy/hard is it to contract hepatitis C? I always under the impression that it was easily sexually transmissible.

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  14 years ago

  Quoting 'MistressT'One question though - how easy/hard is it to contract hepatitis C? I always under the impression that it was easily sexually transmissible. Hepatitis C is primarily transmitted via the blood-to-blood route, as evidenced by intravenous drug users who share needles and other drug paraphernalia. Unsanitary tattooing, piercing, and dental equipment is also a leading cause of transmission.Sexual transmission can occur, but is quite rare. Usually in these cases it is trauma to genitals that causes the blood-to-blood contact to occur. Such trauma may be precipitated from the presence of another pre-existing STI (that may cause a sore or ulcer to be present), or from anal intercourse. This is because the rectum is not physiologically designed for intercourse, and as such the mucosa is easily damaged by the rigours of sex. So on that note it is highly advisable to always use a quality water based lubricant for anal (and vaginal) play, and plenty of it.

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  14 years ago

  The other post was an interesting read in self-absorbtion yet again, MT...and would put your experience well ahead of a princess that takes to erroneousy correct your grammer... | Quoting 'MistressT' Anyone else confused? Not all all but I think I may have found a sous chef-ette if I am every making a polymorphic fruit salad with the grapes peeled perfectly to decorate the the presentation of the dish. Doesn't matter if it tastes any good...looks are everything you now. | ...now then, is anal retentive the word I need? | | Fucking "Look at my Lycra" must not let blood circulate to the brain. Oh well.

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  14 years ago

  MOTOPETE !.This topic has come up on many many occasions , at least evry 6 months , which I must say is a good thing. Awarness is great!.The opening of a Fanny is about 2cm from the opening of an arse ! There is no magic barrier people ,no viral or bacterial "electric fence" between them and as Midnight has implied ecoli is hanging around in all sort of places. .The point is there are risks everywhere. Play it safe protect where you can. Wearing condoms is a great start ! Get checked and checked regularly. Sadly most GP's give some horrible sexual health info. Sexual health clinic run by government appear to be the best. .I am sure the two nut bags will now be running to google to expand thier bias base to ensure they feel "right" again ........its not the info its the message that is dangerous!Take care all.Brae

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  14 years ago

  I just happen to import those fantastic light reactive acrylics that the dentists use...you know the ones, where the seal and hold tight when you hit them with the blue light? Seriously...I have them here and it's kind of like a permanent little dental dam and what the hell, if you are brave you could make a condom that might outlast it's owner. Too just for fun...it is perfectly clear, maelable until it is hit with the light and you can make really fun little statues out of it. Kind of like bentonite clay...but this stuff doesn't smell.

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  14 years ago

  If I have offended any humans of any gender or any sexuality with either my original post or subsequent comments please accept my apologies as no offence was intended. I have friends and clients who are transgender so I do not need lessons in that regard.Thank you to those who have come to my defense and those who sent supportive messages.In trying to illustrate a point I seem to have stirred things up but not in the way I planned. Everything else aside, the topic I started was in regards to safe and unsafe sexual practices and it would be great to hear from more health professionals on the subject.

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  14 years ago

  I must say that I read the post you refer to and thought ......... Next ..........When I hear some one roll out "nomenclature" in the same forum that describes "perform mouth to anal" I also hear ra ra ra ra ra in their post ! Pleeeeeease !You'll live to offend others Tam and I should hope so ! Quoting 'MistressT' If I have offended any humans of any gender or any sexuality with either my original post or subsequent comments please accept my apologies as no offence was intended. I have friends and clients who are transgender so I do not need lessons in that regard.Thank you to those who have come to my defense and those who sent supportive messages.In trying to illustrate a point I seem to have stirred things up but not in the way I planned. Everything else aside, the topic I started was in regards to safe and unsafe sexual practices and it would be great to hear from more health professionals on the subject.

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