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Pants on fire!

June 01 2013

Liars. There are many, both on here and in real life, and we have have all come across them. In my job I get lied to by my patients on a daily basis and I think I'm reasonably good at knowing when someone is being less than truthful. But I have also believed many stories that turned out to be lies later on. I want to know how you can tell someone is lying to you directly. Face to face, on the phone or in writing. What are the give-aways for you? What verbal and non-verbal clues do you look for? Do you think you are a good liar (if you wanted to be)?

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  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    But that has gotten me in trouble before, it also has a lot to do with whether you want to believe the lies- Posted from rhpmobile

  • Paradisepair

    Paradisepair

    12 years ago

    I can't say what exactly sets it off, I just get overcome by a feeling of... 'Yeah...right...'

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    whilst ever people have something to hide, want to avoid conflict or fear judgement, tell you want they think you want to hear or get a particular result they are going to lie unfortunately - and it shits me to tears, disappoints me or just hurts my feelings.I think I have a pretty good detector and listen to it, other times I'm a bit slow even when it's screaming "abort abort abort" with flashing red lights.I tend not to get the Single=Married men liars as I am very open about being attached myself with the full consent of my partner. So married men generally fess up very quickly.If I get a strong feeling that something isn't quite right but I can't pinpoint why, I'm pretty good at the mind fuck or can be like a dog with a bone if it's important enough for me to get to the truth. I have 2 teenagers, so I've honed these skills very well.Inflection of voice, eyes not wanting to connect, trying to change the subject, no direct answers, dodgy body language...and I will probe, analyse and pull apart each word of their answer like slow torture.It really is easier to just tell the damn truth.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    I forgot to answer the last bit.I can't lie, nor would I ever want to. I'm a straight shooter and pride myself on my honesty.I have been known to soften the blow, but I think that comes more down to sensitivity. ie shopping trip with a friend - "does my bum look big in this"and instead of saying "yeah, yeah it does" I may say "You know what, I think we can do better" or "you've got an awesome arse, but that skirt is poorly cut and just not flattering....damn those sweat shops"

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    because a little lie can be a very good thing...sometimes telling the awful truth can cause someone a lot of pain. We all lie,sometimes it is what we don't say as well as what we say,as Father Bob would say,the sins of omission as well as commission. The good liars are easy to pick my dear,they are the ones with cold hearts and fish eye stares but they can also charm the pants right off of you,so I always wear my teflon knickers,that way they are less likely to melt.

  • sweetgem

    sweetgem

    12 years ago

    I can tell if someone is lying or not regardless of the forms of communication. Liars usually don't remember exactly what they have said or done after a while, so I always look for the inconsistency and/or words that they use in the things they say or tell. For example, a few months back I was chatting to a guy from RHP for a while, never met in real life because timing was always bad. Then one day, I happened to come across his profile, clicked into it and found that I could not access his PG anymore. So I send him an email and a text message to say hello, but never heard from the guy again. Hence, I took it as a "I'm no longer interested" message and left him alone. But guess what, over a month later, he sent me a text pretended that nothing had happened and expected me to get excited for hearing from him again! I did reply to the guy's text to say I was not interested because he had ignored my messages a few times. He wrote back to say his account got hacked and Admin deleted all of his messages on RHP! So he never received any of my messages on RHP! I nearly asked the guy if Admin had access to his text messages on his phone as well! Lol Liars are disrespectful, pathetic, and stupid, yet tend to think they are so smart and can fool people around! I admit, I do tell white lies when I needed to, but I cannot be a good liar (in a bad negative way), because I don't believe in it and don't wanna dig my own grave 😎- Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    I too believe that I am very good at "picking people", ie, everything from personalities to liars. In person, voice or with writing, I can sense it immediately. The words they choose, or the lack of words, inflection, look, its very easy generally. I think, that perhaps some people overlook the warning bells, or "abort abort abort" message you are receiving, simply de to attraction.

  • Cheekyarses

    Cheekyarses

    12 years ago

    Miss poppins - I'm with you in this topic! Lie to me once - shame on you Lie to me twice - shame on me

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    I have known people that everything that comes out of there mouth is bs and that is both men and women. Soon as they dont look you in the eye is always a dead give away and i agree with cheeky arses, great quote.

  • wingman2014

    wingman2014

    12 years ago

    So I don't bother lying. It's too much hard work ...and for what? A good liar has to have a very good memory cos you just dig a bigger hole for your self the longer you go on. Much easier to just be up front .- Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Does honesty exist?   I have been lied to so much over the years that now rather than trying to figure out if I am being lied to I just assume its all lies :(

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    I think my instincts have never failed me. I've failed my instincts though :( Times when I just knew that something about a person's story didn't stack up but I've given them the benefit of the doubt again and again, second guessing myself, telling myself I was being hard on them, but in the end discovering they'd been lying all along. Most recently it happened with a woman from here who I'd become friends with. She concocted a variety of stories and lied repeatedly. When I caught her out and confronted her she continued to lie. I don't understand it at all, but I learned my lesson again. Trust your instincts, always.

  • On_Safari

    On_Safari

    12 years ago

    Unless I'm completely open and honest. As for bullshit detector. If it sounds too good to be true, listen. Like Ms D said, if you're gut is screaming this is wrong LISTEN!!!! The stories after a while don't enmesh, there are .... inconsistencies. Regardless of the heart wanting something different don't wipe your gut and innate sense that it's NOT RIGHT. Being in love with a lie kills. Especially when you knew in your body it was dangerous and "too good to be true." Then you discover, you've been a willing victim, an inexhaustible resource until base instinct took over. No. I won't be a willing victim. Would sooner fuck you off now and not give you a seconds thought. I don't do liars well.- Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Detect a lie - 1.They look downward to the left or right before responding. 2,They touch their nose and then make it look like it was itchy anyway. 3. Their ears may turn redder than usual, making them feel one of their ears with their fingers. 4.They cover their mouth with their hand briefly before speaking (Sub-conscious gesture to remind their mouth that something/detail/info should not come out of their mouth). 5.Evasive tangent in the conversation (delay tactic) 6. Inappropriate agitation or sharp dismissal.."The Truth should never hurt"

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    There are a lot of them out there and you may never suspect anything if the person is a good liar. Rarely does a professional liar make mistakes but they all do eventually. I agree with Mr & Mrs P...a gut feeling is a good detector.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    No sure if I am good at detecting lies. People that always tell tall stories, or always have to top everyone else's comments with a more wild story always gain my suspicion. Oily car salesman type characters are suspect too I think. I was just discussing this last night, about how green a lot of us are when we first join RHP, me included! The first few weeks are an eye opener that is for sure. I wonder how many people think that I talk BS about some of my nights out and things I get up too. Seriously, I don't even really say all of it either as for most people it would seem like things that only happen in pornos and are contrived or just things that don't happen in real life. Oh well.... suppose you just have to know me.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    I tell white lies to save people's feelings. I feel uncomfortable being rude to people... there is no need for it. You are not going to like everyone, that doesn't mean you can carry on like a pork chop. And yeah, I have probably told a friend or two that their arse didn't look big in that. Oops am I bad?As for big lies.......... no I don't like to lie at all and I hate being lied to.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    I have seen a few times over the past few months or so, women taking other women's written word as the absolute truth on this forum and as a result of this a number of people have been hurt. Unfortunately with this medium you have to take a lot of things with a grain of salt, particularly if they are talking badly about other people. We have to be very mindful that there are two sides to every story. Also, sometimes it is easy to mouth off and let off a bit of steam by having a joke or a whinge about things, or people... but you need to remember that sometimes people take the written word too literally. That maybe what I am writing as a bit of a joke someone else will take as absolute truth. I have been bitten by this myself recently. I will not make that mistake again. Sometimes people have their own reality.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    "Trust me". Thanks for all your replies. I fully agree with the gut feeling. Also when someone answers a yes/no question with anything but those words. I'm a great liar, but only for a day or so. Then forget what I said. I will say that I mainly lie to mess with annoying people though.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    are the ones that we tell ourselves daily

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Quoting 'Meeka100'I have seen a few times over the past few months or so, women taking other women's written word as the absolute truth on this forum and as a result of this a number of people have been hurt. I definitely learned a lesson there! Some people are very good liars, so I will always make sure I get both sides of the story before I pass judgement.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Quoting 'Three_Wise_Words'I think my instincts have never failed me. I've failed my instincts though :( Times when I just knew that something about a person's story didn't stack up but I've given them the benefit of the doubt again and again, second guessing myself, telling myself I was being hard on them, but in the end discovering they'd been lying all along. Most recently it happened with a woman from here who I'd become friends with. She concocted a variety of stories and lied repeatedly. When I caught her out and confronted her she continued to lie. I don't understand it at all, but I learned my lesson again. Trust your instincts, always. I think we have all failed our instincts at times, only to realise later that we knew along we were right. Hindsight vision is always 20/20. The best we can do is learn. I think instinct is highly underrated, which is a shame.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    I have found that I can't lie. When I lie my face gives it away and I break out in a big crimson blush all over my face. So I only tell the truth. I wish the blush factor worked on everyone as I trust too easily.   Ms NC2147

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Which is to say I have about $US1 to my name.As for lying, I'm terrible at it, and probably just as bad at picking it in others. I just get really uncomfortable in a lie, and the only time I bother to think someone else is doing it is if I think what they're saying is implausible. So no thanks, I don't want to buy a bridge, but I do believe you when you say you've been busy, and you can't do Tuesday because you're meeting your friend for dinner, and your sister is in town Saturday, and you have a cold the next weekend, and...Hey. Waidamminut...

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    My memory is awful so I know it would be just too much hard work trying to spin stories and keep up with it all. Truth be told, my BS detector isn't that good either. I do get vibes from people though and tend to stay away from prickly types or 'me me me' people. Oh well, I'll just float around in my bubble and gravitate towards those with a warm fuzzy vibe ... BUT .... do you include lying by omission? That's a toughie in this scene ...

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    you don't fib even a teensy bit Neptune dear?Afteral you are not wearing any pants today.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Everyone lies, 10 times a day on average according to the Reader's Digest mag. I'm terrible at knowing when people are lying, been taken so many times, I count my lucky stars that on the other hand, there is some magic in my life that I AM lucky and things have worked out well enough, mostly, in my opinion at least, lol. So, to know when someone is lying... take two completely different people, have them saying completely different things... one of them has to be lying. I have my moments for lyng but mostly, I'm not good at it and I don't like to. I'm just not that good at maintaining deception.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    I have another one of those jobs where many many people lie to you. Thing is they are generally better off with the truth. I generally go with my gut feeling, whether it is face to face, phone or in writing. But boy have I been wrong a few times lol

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Now I have seen you state a few times now that you are poor.... Is this the same thing as you saying you are a virgin?? Which I believed by the way. So tell us the real truth. You are a trust fund baby aren't you? Have squillions in trust just waiting for you to turn 30. :p

  • RHP

    RHP User

    6 years ago

    Quoting 'JayJay_66' Does honesty exist? I have been lied to so much over the years that now rather than trying to figure out if I am being lied to I just assume its all lies :( Me too.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    6 years ago

    This is an old thread! I still don't have the ability to maintain deception... 🍑