Real opinions on sacred sex, tantra the kama sutra etc

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  RHP User

  11 years ago

  Wrap it in as much easten mumbo philosophy as you like but you are missing out on the point of the tantra thing. It is adaptive and does not have to be rooted in spirituality. In the past we used spirituality to explain concepts that we did not understand. It was also laymans speak for the masses to consume. I for one will not read another book about how to achi

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  RHP User

  11 years ago

  it is very much old age ,from Hinduism to Tibetan Buddhism, thousands of years in fact...Buddhism is hundreds of years older than Christianity....and Shakyamuni Buddha was a Hindu Prince.Tantric sex is just part of the whole system of Yoga Tantras,which means transformation. I am more than a little cynical about people who style themselves ''expert'' in matters of spirituality and sex...and the offering of ''free lessons''.

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  RHP User

  11 years ago

  I forgot to say,that mine is a ''real''opinion based on being a student of Tibetan Buddhism for over twenty years both here and in the U.S.A.

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  RHP User

  11 years ago

  People get fixated on the sexual aspect of Tantra (etc) and not the true spiritual element. I'm all for finding ways to make the concepts and experiences accessible to the mainstream in an ethical and benevolent way though, given not everyone is going to immerse themselves in it for years but most everyone could benefit from learning something about it. Please don't write another 'how to pick up hot chicks' or 'how to make every woman squirt/cum 100 times/whatever' guide. Please. I'm curious about how much you've actually read, studied and practiced the things you talk about. Mostly I'm curious about whether you see them as brag-worthy sexual talents or whether you've been humbled by a journey of personal discovery and deepening. Humility is underrated in this world. - Posted from rhpmobile

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  RHP User

  11 years ago

  In my opinion there are already some pretty fantastic modern-day guides on the subject. My fave is anything by David Deida. Not strictly Tantra/Kama Sutra etc, but more about masculine/feminine energy, polarity and the dynamics between. Understand that and the depth of connection you have with a partner can change dramatically. When that changes so can (does, often) the sexual connection. DD is not the only great author on this by far, but he's the one I'd recommend to any man who wanted to explore such things. - Posted from rhpmobile

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  RHP User

  11 years ago

  thanks for your comments i appreciate them and am interested in hearing your opinions. I especially appreciate your comments and cynicism about self styled experts on sex and spirituality. i am comfortable with my knowledge base the respect i am giving to the subject and my intent. i am in actual fact creating a completely non denominational and spiritually/ religiously neutral product that in the spirit of yoga and tantric sex. A partner meditation is is only a small part of that process very much in the "white" tantra sphere and i fully acknowledge that it is modern contemporary neo tantra and not traditional tantra, My background is more in injury rehabilitation, corrective exercise and traditional chinese medicine i come at sacred sex with more of a Taoist background then tantra. I have in order to create a non denominational product spent the past 3 years researching not just Hindu and buddhist traditions. i have a pretty good handle on 16 major world religions and talked to many different faiths and participated in many different events to expand and weave my consciousness which of course is what tantra means. The chapter on partner meditations is titled Great Shags From History in which i go deal more with the physical aspects rather then the spiritual of partner meditation, breathing, Pc muscle contraction, creating a circuit, muscle relaxation, thought release etc.I am genuinely interested in hearing yours and others opinions/ objections so i can find the right fit. i am basically looking for feed back on what sacred sex means to regular "punters " so to speak

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  RHP User

  11 years ago

  thanks for your comments. In answer to your most important question i can really only answer with a question.How can you not be humbled and also angered by what you read. I mean these are enormous bodies of work on the mind body spirit from authors who have spent entire lifetimes mastering . i get angered when i see it dismissed as eastern mumbo jumbo by some, and rub n tug joints offerering "tantra" just so they can charge a bit more. its not a brag thing at all for me in fact that is why i jumped on here because i am trying to get some new perspectives it is something i keep quiet about normally and i am worried that because of it i am losing touch with my intention in the first place produce something that opens it up to the mainstream for working class for tired, busy couples. even teenagers, a quantum leap up from porn as an education tool more respectful of its traditions then those how to make her squirt articles, but not too intellectual and philosophical that most turn away because they find it awkward. i should point out that i am not even writing a book on sacred sex it is very small part of a book which the greater focus is on mental health challenges depression mood disorders etc but because the chapters are 7 chapters are loosely linked to the Chakras the chapter on the second chapter relates to partner meditationsin answer to how much have i read studied and put into practice i have been

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  RHP User

  11 years ago

  In my view, regardless of which way you spin it, people have to be willing to go deep to transform. It's cliched, but you have to do the work and you have to start by wanting to be a better version of yourself. I think that's the reality check a lot of mainstream punters need - I see everyone (broad generalisation) blaming everyone else for their discontent when it almost always (many traditions would simply say always) starts within. When people get completely up in arms by what a random stranger says here on the forums, or pissed off when someone's always late for catch-ups, or hurt when ... you get the gist ..., then what chance is there that they'll be genuinely interested in the self-enquiry necessary for whatever healing or growth you're offering. They're too busy pointing fingers. That's the barrier you face in getting your message across, I think. Good luck, I'm intrigued to know more. - Posted from rhpmobile

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  11 years ago

  thanks again yeah agreed on both fronts and i deal with it later in the next chapter how to make friends with your shadow instead of projecting it outward and wasting energy trying to change externals when your right when you have more control over within. I guess the way i am aiming to get into the psyche enough for them to go deep is humour i will post one of the first paragraphs from my manuscript i am happy to take the piss a bit to break down resistances In the days long before high speed internet and the virtual world of rumpypumpy.com sexual experiences. Our illustrious forefathers from cultures which studied and cultivated the secrets of sexual union through ancient meditative and sensual focused rituals from which Manly Man meditators are shortly about to learn. These great shags in the desert, the jungle, in India, Asia and throughout the ancient world who having thoroughly satisfied their partners not merely just for procreation but through exotic ritual, postures and practices to come together with their partner on more than just a purely physical level cried out in protest. “We have no internet, no smart phones, no Facebook in which to celebrate our joyous connection to the divine, the source of creation to share the celebration that comes with the union of the two unifying principles that govern the laws of the universe equal yet apposing opposite forces masculine and feminine Omni present and all loving all giving life force that from all creation unfolds.” These cries of protest were met with “Well why don’t you just carve it into that rock over there” And with that began the alternative tale of loving heartfelt sex as a meditation reserved for those who wish to be more then get in get off get out. This is the Tale of Great Shag In Many Lifetimes. A light hearted look at modern sacred sex rituals or more accurately sacred sensuality rituals, tuning into the sensuality of breath and the connection during lovemaking to enhance your lovemaking repertoire. This is for all those that want to shag properly and by that I mean without the ego driven goal orientated bump and grind to orgasm where the mental chatter becomes one of don’t blow it too quick. Understanding visualization and partner meditation techniques that follow emphasize that sexual pleasure is not a performance to be achieved it is a happiness to be shared. By understanding how to move energy away from the lower energy centers and to the heart center it also delays the urgency to ejaculate extending and prolonging lovemaking. It also allows you to learn how to become as one with your partner breathing together and focusing energy and attention on the connection unlike the usual four “people” you and your thoughts and them and their thoughts.

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  RHP User

  11 years ago

  I found this lovely quote...a friend recently gave me some little affirmation cards...all quotes from the Buddha...this is todaysNo one saves us but ourselvesNo one can and no one mayWe ourselves must walk the path.Good luck with your project OP....xR

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  RHP User

  11 years ago

  Considering Tantra & Taoism have their explanations in energy and energetic structures you cannot see, to reach the audience you are seeking, I would imagine you would have to keep explanations in the experiential realms, such as what it may feel like to them. Sacred sex is about connectedness to ones own body, to its sensations, to your emotional space, to your partner, and responding to their experience. That can surely be demystified out of a spiritual context into a practical one to do progressive work and deepen the connections mentioned. For men, I think a contextual shift from sexuality to sensuality would be a basic foundation from which to build. Also, and understanding that to go deeper, the layers of armour might have to get peeled off, as Sun_Missed has mentioned, at least for the duration of the session. Linking it to chakras and mental health, of course you have survival & security as base chakra issues, and emotional, sexual and creative energies in the second chakra. How do these play out in emotional and mental health? What exercises, advice or suggestions can you give for people to feel secure within themselves and access feelings of security, playfulness, creativity, awe and wonder in regards to sexuality? My suggestion would again would be a foundational/contextual shift of sex, sexuality, and sensuality. The term sacredness to me brings associations of reverence, humility, inspiration, awe, amazement & appreciation, from the level of sacredness being inclusive of myself in the picture, and my place in the scheme of it all. Refer back to Sun_Kissed here: "whether you've been humbled by a journey of personal discovery and deepening". Wow. Well put.

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  RHP User

  11 years ago

  Is if you want to use a lot of words and weave a detailed thread, be sure you're an exceptional writer and story-teller. Otherwise, keep things simple and easily digestible. - Posted from rhpmobile

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