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SAFE SEX : "if required"......

June 15 2013

i have been wondering for a while, what does "sometimes" and "if required" means, in the "Safe Sex" category,in someone's profile?i am not being sarcastic here at all... but when is safe sex "not required" , in swinging ?i respect every one's own point of you, and choices...live and let live, i say...but just curious, what situation, in swinging, permits not playing safe?i am simply asking this... because in general...we are having sexual experiences with people we know very little about...i could perhaps imagine an arrangement, where all get tested...then play exclusively with each other only...i think...but how many couples, let's say, would choose to play with only ONE other couple, single guy/girl...and how could you ever completely trust that the people, you have made this arrangement with , didn't slip up ?for us personally...safe sex is paramount...but that is just the choice WE made...and we respect other's choices just the same...we love exploring our sexuality , and live life to the fullest...bring it on, baby!but would never imagine taking chances and playing Russian roulette with our lives...so i was just very curious, what other people were thinking about this topic...when you put "if required" , or "sometimes" , for "Safe Sex" , on your profile...what does that mean to you? by no means I intend to be judgemental here...we are all free to live our lives as we please...i am just genuinely curious, how people decide, when, and with whom is it safe to be "not safe" ?do they have to meet certain requirements first? or do you just make a call based on your perception of the person?and if you do choose to trust a chosen playmate...and not use protection...why do you do it?in what way does this enriches your sexual experience, that makes it worthwhile to you, to take a chance?as i said, i am simply genuinely curious...and mean no offence at all to anyone or anyone's choices....

Comments

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    I used to assume the same things you are asking about. But then some couples explained choosing that option by saying that they don't use protection when having sex with each other, but get the condoms out when it's time to swap. And some said they choose not to use condoms for oral, but would for intercourse. Still, seeing it on a couple's profile makes me hesitate. However, my main concern is single guys saying "sometimes" for safe sex on their profile. Now that's and instant no.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    It isn't a no always though.... Did notice some friends of ours with a If required in this section. Although I assume that someone with this will Only use a condom when asked to otherwise they don't. Assumption on my par though.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    That turn up to the door, dick in hand when you say, did you bring a condom?   that blank look hits their face.   I been with a couple, where the guy tried to go there with me, without a condom. His wife did not seem to mind, but I did, Even if your fingering and you go from one woman to the other, oral one to the other in group situations, then there is a risk.   safe sex is no sex at all.   So best thing is to just have a ton of condoms. Meet the people that say only when required if you are interested, and just tell em to slip one on.   In the heat of the moment, sometimes there can be a slip of the dick so you have to make sure its on well before that stage. sometimes guys will go soft trying to put it on, that's just bad luck and you have to start again and be quick when its up.   even with happy married people that do not swing, shit can happen. Its called life.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    I said "Sometimes", not "If required".   One gent who I recently had in my bed (as part of a threesome) needed a gentle reminder to put a condom on. The other person was as taken aback as I was when I told them afterwards. I just checked the guy's profile, and it does indeed say "Sometimes". Can't believe that slipped by me. Won't happen again. Sorry OP, to get back to your topic: There have been couples on the forums who were quite open about the fact they would only play with others who were "clean" and chose never to use condoms. I remember one woman even claiming that AIDS wasn't real and just some made-up illness. Indeed, each to their own.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    I don't get the difference? If required or sometimes is the same thing isn't it?

  • DonnaBrett

    DonnaBrett

    12 years ago

    We have just had this issue come up again. A couple who in all other aspects seemed on the same page as us but then we saw they said "If Required"...we did politely ask their interpretation because it seems some people don't understand the question. They said they do practice safe sex but sometimes in a group situation condoms 'get in the way' so then they'd rather not use them. For us, that's an instant deal breaker. People who say as Ms Direct said above "But then some couples explained choosing that option by saying that they don't use protection when having sex with each other, but get the condoms out when it's time to swap" don't understand the question in our view. The stats questions should only apply to what you do with playmates in a swinging situation not what you do with your own partner when alone. If you play with someone and they use condoms because you require them to but with the last 10 people they haven't used them...then they are a high risk. We have played with people who used to play safe but now only if required. Unfortunately as fantastic as they are and regardless of the friends we've become we won't play with them again. Yes ...we all know about the risks of oral and all that stuff but this question is for intercourse. It would very interesting to hear the opinions of people who don't play safe and their reasoning behind it? Because from where we sit, there is no reason for condom free fucking with casual playmates. The question on the stats should read "Do you practice safe sex for intercourse?" there should ONLY be two available responses...YES or NO.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    If its not on.. It's not on! Majority of the population wouldn't even know if they had a STD. Especially where some lay dormant or don't show signs immediately or at all. Always use a condom.. Better to have one and not need it than to need it and not have one.. ;-)

  • jensta

    jensta

    12 years ago

    No Raincoat ... you don't get Wet

  • Mischeviouslad

    Mischeviouslad

    12 years ago

    I require it. DG

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Quoting 'Meeka100'I don't get the difference? If required or sometimes is the same thing isn't it? I read "If reguired" as: depends on what we're doing, and "Sometimes" as: I will try without and see if you'll let me get away with it. Thoughts?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Like I said I assume "if required" means they will only put a condom on if someone asks them to. And if no one asks they will have sex happily with out condoms. So my thoughts. Clearly it is subject to interpretation so always best to ask the person! :)

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    I see what you mean. Hmmm maybe my interpretation is too cynical?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    We are constantly amazed that people say safe sex only but then wont use a condom for oral, wtf .   I think Chlamydia is the only STI you wont get from oral . Herpes is easily transmitted even with a condom.   Play safe have STI checks, then you know where you stand.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    We strongly believe in the "No glove, No love" ruling, and if you don't like it, we don't want to meet you. We've heard it all, "I'm allergic to latex, My man doesn't like the feeling if a condom, I only play bareback, I like the feeling of a mans raw cock in me" and so on? In this lifestyle you don't know what the people you play with have been involved in, regardless of what they may say. There seems to be allot of people in the swinging lifestyle who like to "Risk it." Each to their own, as we're not out there to make friends with the Grim Reaper..Only clean and respectful people who have no issues Tarping up!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    ...with a single guy from here, who's reply was, to my question about safe sex...(as his profile said "if required")..." i always use condoms with singles and bar pick-ups, etc...but not with couples, cause they are safe..."when i pointed out to him, that they can't be that safe, if they are playing unprotected with a single guy...who would obviously it seemed would also play unprotected with other couples too...not mentioning that who's to say the couple don't have other guys on the go as well... whom they also play unprotected with...etc...before you know, you fucked half of the RHP community without a condom, so to speak!he didn't take my reasoning kindly...and took offence, i think....oh,well...but seriously...without sounding condescending....how can someone be so naive?as " Luvnya69" put it...whatever rocks your boat...but to me it just seems strange, that people would take such risks...

  • xFunlovingx

    xFunlovingx

    12 years ago

    I met a guy about a month ago and we have played a couple of times, I would slip the condom on with no problem or resistance from him! He text me last week asking if we can go "condomless" ... I was seriously like WTF? He then said "Well I know that I am clean and I can tell that you are clean too, so why not?" ... I was gobsmacked as we had only known each other a month! I cleared it up straight away with him though..my reply? "Sorry I am not allowed on the pill medically and am not protected against pregnancies and am too old to raise babies again" His reply? "Oh shit, ok..condoms all the time then, cool"! Why do men assume that all women are on contraceptives? Not only do they have to look out for diseases, but I hear paying child support for 18 years is really no fun at all! xFunlovingx

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Wonder how many here would have sex with someone that has HIV/AIDS even if they had a condom on? Would you give them a blow job without a condom or lick their pussy without a dental dam? Would you kiss a person with HIV? Would you even consider casual contact with someone with HIV/AIDS? Who carries dental dams or gloves?Who would happily have sex with a condom on knowing that they had an STI? Would you tell the other person you even had an STI?Who has had an STI check in the last year?So strange that so many are so passionate and singled minded about the use of condoms for preventative sex yet very few even consider there use during oral sex, or a wide variety of non penetrative sex.Condoms reduce risk but are not SAFE sex. Everyone should know this. SAFE SEX is impossible there is always risk!We should have at least a national STI check month. All active people should get tested. This would reduce the risk greatly for all condoms or not.Lets see if I get attacked again for my view that safe sex is impossible.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    "preventative" should be "penetrative" opps sorry.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Missed your post... Good to see that there are some with common sense. With you all the way slm114. Now I have to remember to look right, left, then right again when crossing the road to the swingers party. Does make it risky being blind and all.. LOL

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    My last test was at the end of January and I will probably have another test next month. And I had chlamydia! Yeah!!!!! NOT. Pretty sure I got it from an orgy I had attended considering the symptoms started within 24 hours. And yes I used a condom with the one person I had full sex with.... sounds wierd but I am convinced I got it from someones hand. Just my bad luck considering I was probably the person who had the least sexual activity in the whole bloody place! Bollocks!! I have also had the clap a few years ago but I stupidly was sleeping with a person without condoms..... then I met the other woman he was sleeping with. Big mistake on my part and I paid for it. Wont do that again. Gawd....... there goes my popularity.

  • QLDtwo4fun

    QLDtwo4fun

    12 years ago

    It's changing it between partners.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Quoting 'Blindman67' Condoms reduce risk but are not SAFE sex. Everyone should know this. SAFE SEX is impossible there is always risk! We should have at least a national STI check month. All active people should get tested. This would reduce the risk greatly for all condoms or not. When put you put it this way, you totally get my vote.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Folks its too easy If you don't agree with "if required " just move on. We are not interested in your lectures, Your sexual activities we may object to as well being way to risky for us.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Three months ago. Urine, blood, vagina and throat swabs, the works. Next one is planned for July.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    I don't get throat swabs I don't think? I can't actually remember. I definitely don't get vagina swabs. Are they standard tests?

  • subgal_gc

    subgal_gc

    12 years ago

    I get urine and blood tests thou have had vaginal swabs done on occasion (with my annual pap smear). My last one was only a few months ago and came back clear. I get tested at least twice a year (unless I have any concerns like a broken condom). Condoms are a must for me unless I am in a committed monogamous relationship and we have both passed STI checks. So until then while I am not a fan of condoms I will continue to insist on using them with my partners. Too risky otherwise!!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Quoting 'Meeka100'I don't get throat swabs I don't think? I can't actually remember. I definitely don't get vagina swabs. Are they standard tests? Chlamydia can be found in your throat, hence the oral swab. A vaginal swap tests for Chlamydia and Gonorrhea (though a urine sample may be sufficient) and more. Bloods will be taken for Hep A, B, C, HIV, Syphilis and some other nasties. The GP even tested me for measles while she was at it. (p.s. The only thing that came back positive was my attitude.)

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Flaps crossed my is the same. LOL Subgal, I used chocolate flavoured condoms last weekend. They were actually good........ I think I had to have a suck just to make sure.

  • subgal_gc

    subgal_gc

    12 years ago

    I have always been a little dubious about the favoured ones but chocolate now that sounds tempting. Can you remember what brand they were as might have to give them a try with my next lucky partner (please let that be sooner rather than later) ;-)

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Kiwi fruit and Banana are nice to - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    Meeka. We like you for your mind, awesome photo's and proactive attitude... not you history or bad luck. We have stated on our profile that we are not interested in those that have anything besides always. Unbelievable how many flirts and messages we get from those who don't play safe. Occasionally when we politely decline to get involved with one of these oh so responsible people we cop a screenful of abuse back. About 30.% of they time they claim they didn't know it was set to unfafe. One notable exception was a really nice gentleman and he was a gentleman in the old sense of the word who had sometimes because he reserved the right to not use condoms if he was in a long term mutually exclusive relationship and both had been tested. In the end the only person responsible for health is you. Just make sure you can live with the consequences of you decisions. Mark and vixen- Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

    but you already knew that. Mmmm chocolate flavoured condoms .... beats the taste of normal condoms any day. I'd still lick a leg in rubber though ... My last test (blood and urine)... 2 months ago.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    12 years ago

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    What if the group members didn't get tested? Would the males have to switch condoms at supersonic speed before entering the next member, and the women replace their dams between cunnilingus partners? How would you sanitise your mouths?I went to school with a girl who was on the pill and they used a condom and she still got pregnant. Fucking funny as!I hate condoms with a passion. They stink, make me itch, make little zia sting into the next day, feel awful, look ridiculous. (Remember the movie cone heads?) *Before anyone recommends brands of contraceptives to me, let me stop you here. I've tried 'em all.In saying this, I always ask people first if they have anything. I'm clean and I want to stay clean. I've never even had a cold-sore. You can tell people are hiding something by their tone of voice and facial expressions. Or it could be written all over their skin.I chose if required because there wasn't a fuck off frangas option.