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August 12 2015

Raymond DartNicolas WadeDale Peterson What do these guys have in common? Well other than the fact that they are white, middle aged men fuelled by elitism, unacknowledged neo-colonial politics and sloppy thinking - these guys are the fully sick dudes that have successfully projected onto us their views on the origins & evolution of human behaviour. Raymond Dart - is the guy that in 1925 discovered the first fossil of a human ancestor in Africa. He described early humans as "carnivorous creatures, that seized living quarries by violence, battered them to death... slaking their ravenous thirst with the hot blood of victims and greedily devouring livid writhing flesh". So much intensity. Nicolas Wade is a sexy demon by night, new york times journalist by day. Do a google image search, but be sure to fortify the flood gates beforehand. "Warfare between pre-state societies was incessant, merciless and conducted with the general purpose, often achieved, of annihilating the opponent." His co-author, Dale Peterson agrees - saying we are but "the dazed survivors of a continuous, 5-million year habit of lethal aggression." Ok so to sum this up: We are inherently cunts. Not much we can do about it. And here is why - 1) Data drawn from primal ancestors - mainly from chimpanzees - with whom we shared a common ancestor about five million years ago ("5-million year habit of lethal aggression" great historian work Dale!)2) Anthropological history3) Archaelogical findings suggesting persistent warfare Alright - so I am writing this highly sarcastic to prove to you (very) quickly, that we aren't inherently evil. More importantly I am trying to point out that sometimes, just because we have universally accepted reasoning - doesn't mean we are right. Always challenge what you hear. 1) Primate evidenceFirstly - Using the chimpanzee to explain the origins of human war is the equivalent of saying "the devil made me do it". Now more importantly, our closest primate cousin isn't the chimpanzee. It's the Bonobo Ape, by a far stretch (as far as DNA and behavioural correlation goes). Bonobos do not rape or pillage + No war + No murder = No support for the primate origins of human war. Journalists and scientists often shun the Bonobo like the crazy cousin that sits in the back of your subconcious until someone says "Hey, remember Jake" and your like "Oh yeh, that dickhead". The Bonobo unapologetically practices polygamy and bisexuality. They live in communities very much similar to pre-colonial hunter gatherer societies. 2) & 3) Anthropological and Archaeological Evidence "The worldwide archaeological evidence shows that war was simply absent over the vast majority of human existence... but with a gradual worldwide population increase, the shift from universal nomadic foraging to settled communities, the development of agriculture, a transition from egalitarianism to hierarchical societies - and, very significantly the rise of state-level civilization five thousand to six thousand years ago - the archaeological record is clear and unambiguous: war developed, despots arose, violence proliferated, slavery flourished, and the social position of women deteriorated." Written by Doug Fry in War, Peace and Human Nature (2013), he argues civilization is the source of humans inclination towards war and violence as opposed to our DNA and biological evolution. To conclude, I will leave you with a quote from one very sexy dude, made during his acceptance speech for his Nobel prize for personified irony. War, in one form or another, appeared with the first man. At the dawn of history, its morality was not questioned; it was simply a fact, like drought or disease – the manner in which tribes and then civilizations sought power and settled their differences. Barrack Obama

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  • AnnieWhichway

    AnnieWhichway

    9 years ago

    err.........ummmmm.......... I'll move on then.....

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  • Missb4u

    Missb4u

    9 years ago

    was there even a question? Sorry I didn't even read it all just skimmed it. Rude of me I know so spank me 😊✋🏼

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  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    But you lost me at sexy white guys......thinks Jason Statham and Tom Hardy

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  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    to eight paragraphs before I stopped.

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  • AnnieWhichway

    AnnieWhichway

    9 years ago

    Quoting 'Kokoflamingo' But you lost me at sexy white guys......thinks Jason Statham and Tom Hardy Jason.................yes!

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  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    ............................Very genius ...........................................................Much wow

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  • MsJonesy

    MsJonesy

    9 years ago

    Back off Koko & Annie..... JASON IS ALL MINE!!!

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  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    I don't know that you would call skirmishes between tribes during the Ice Age as war exactly and possum we know that most history has been written by old white men and only some of it is based on facts that can be verified...I think the earliest recorded battle was around 7000 BC ...We do share more DNA with Bonobos..there is a woman in Germany if I recall rightly who is living with one and working on language with him...I am currently reading Herodotus,an easy read,he is the equivalent of todays gossip mags,he is known as the Father of History or the Father of lies...the films the 300 were based on his account of the Spartans victory over the Athenians ..in fact some of the dialogue is pure Herodotus..I love ancient history and I thank you for this post TD 😚xxFreya

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  • AnnieWhichway

    AnnieWhichway

    9 years ago

    Quoting 'kissk' Back off Koko & Annie..... JASON IS ALL MINE!!! Koko and I have a 3some organised with him. He doesn't know yet but bugger off........

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  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    For a moment I thought you meant Medeas hubby 😛😛xxFreya

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  • MsJonesy

    MsJonesy

    9 years ago

    I was distracted by the factions warring over Statham... Now what was your argument? If I have summarised properly (would you like to see my notes, they're a little like etchings only sexier) you argue that Dart, Wade and Peterson (and others) are incorrect as they are basing their evidence on the wrong primate and a couple of scrapes through some archaeological digs which show up some swords, a bit of burning and a couple of skeletons impaled on stakes/sticks/things that make a messy hole in you. Hello!!! Have they dug up the whole world and subjected the findings to the experts on Time Team??? If not, I don't accept their evidence!!! (extra exclamation and question marks just to annoy some folk hehehehe...oh and that 'hehehehe' also annoys the bejesus out of some folk). And what else would you like to add? Oh that's right - I get it now. Don't always accept what others say.Question, reason, deduce meaning for yourself.

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  • madotara69

    madotara69

    9 years ago

    Bonobo never stumbled onto a nice juicy char grilled steak. Cooked meat has a protein or a doovey lacky in that our brains developed intelligence. First thing to learn is too kill more efficiently. So how come Obama and yer sexy white guys failed to mention that. Carrot crunchers. Mado Mado Tara xx

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  • AnnieWhichway

    AnnieWhichway

    9 years ago

    Cutting edge of the debate over civilization as we don't know it.Who would have thought.RHP sex forum leading the world.WE are at the forefront people.......get on board

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  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    You wouldn't happen to be studying Anthropology, by chance? From where I'm sitting at my table, I can see the back of a large hardcover on my bookshelf and the 2 quotes on it: "War is the continuation of politics by other means" and "Whoever wishes for peace, let him prepare for war". Appropriate. I think War is a state of humankind...when was the last time there wasn't one somewhere?

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  • Mischeviouslad

    Mischeviouslad

    9 years ago

    When plagiarising other peoples work.... you should at least reference thm.

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  • Crackatini

    Crackatini

    9 years ago

    I read it - seems like a commentary on human evolution that belongs in Wickepedia. Call me old fashioned but I might just stick to posts about shagging :)

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  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    when the population of your 'country' is an extended family, how would you expect a pre-agricultural fossil record to show huge wars? 2 people of the tribe are killed in conflict with another tribe "holy fuck, that's half our hunters... run" - except now, that "half our soldiers" level is in the hundreds of thousands - Jimmy Loincloth didn't have a tribe of 20million people. You wouldn't have trench warfare style killing fields with the ground more corpse than mud. Armed conflict between those noble savages is a part of historical record, it just couldn't be waged at the same scale. Potato potato IMO . . It sounds like you're saying we're peaceful folk, and war sprung up in some relatively more recent social invention. If we can redefine war in smaller terms more appropriate for conflict between smaller tribal groups, each their own country... we had lots of'wars'. If we were live and let live hippies then there would either be plenty of Neanderthals left, or LOTS more Neanderthal genes in our genome - except there aren't, despite some interbreeding, as a bunch, modern humans exterminated them. . . War isn't 'evil'

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  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Love Freyas comment that most history is written by old white men. One of the reasons I take history with a grain of salt. If everyone in the world were interested in documenting historical records and/or had the capabilities history would be nothing like we see it today. Arguments for what is what and when such occurred would be very different and extremely varied as everyone sees thiongs from their point of view. Prime examples being the history of wars (generally written by the winners or from the perspective of each warring party). And my biggest historical teaching and readings that make me cringe, the history of Australia written by English white fellas (mmmm no bias there lol). Anyways interesting post OP and for those interested it should prove to be a good debatable thread

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  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Own all our media outlets. It is not just our history that is skewed.

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  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Bonobo's have a fascinating social culture. They use sex to resolve their issues and disagreements. When things get tense between the group, suddenly an orgy breaks out. They fuck instead of fight, and they have no regard for age or gender, everyone fucks everyone. This is how they maintain their bond as a group and the reason they are the most peaceful of all the great ape species. Makes you think doesn't it?

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  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    I mean, have you ever heard of a war between 2 vegan states? Maybe, just maybe, if we as humans believed we were inherently good as opposed to inherently evil and needing to crawl out way back into God's good books, we would subconsciously act in a way that reinforces this belief. Cue Kamahl quote here "Why are people so unkind???"

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  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    :-D Can someone please pass the bacon?

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  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Quoting 'Unrushed1' I mean, have you ever heard of a war between 2 vegan states?if I was making a throwaway comment about vegans being peaceful, I'd just say "PETA"

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  • madotara69

    madotara69

    9 years ago

    Quoting 'Unrushed1' I mean, have you ever heard of a war between 2 vegan states? Maybe, just maybe, if we as humans believed we were inherently good as opposed to inherently evil and needing to crawl out way back into God's good books, we would subconsciously act in a way that reinforces this belief. Cue Kamahl quote here "Why are people so unkind???" And one of the most memorable right here in the sand pit, incited affray by manipulative motivation, it was exhausting and can't be bothered quoting who for why for then for now, however I remember learning of Tim Minchin and something I read in doing so just happened when reading your post, pondered the question and..... kapoof!!!'If you just close your eyes and block your ears, to the accumulated knowledge of the last two thousand years, then morally, guess what, your off the hook and thank god because you only have to read one book'.

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  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    It was that Tim Minchin identifies as a feminist 😘xxFreya

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  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    There have been so many RHP wars, I've lost count.

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  • madotara69

    madotara69

    9 years ago

    Yes it was, though I have searched for a plethora of meanings from your written words, whether it be peace love or war. Like an angel on my shoulder Miss Freya, I also learnt the the true meaning of an "angel" is an "messenger" xx

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  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    I'm starting the Cult of the Bonobo, Pope Francis, all the Imams, Rabbis the Dalai Lama and Germaine Greer and Bronwyn Bishop are all invited to one big orgy of peace ! Does the UN have a spa ?

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  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    That was just an attempt at humor from a committed carnivore, though I do like PETAs recurrent themes of nudity.

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  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    This bit here is the most interesting part: "Written by Doug Fry in War, Peace and Human Nature (2013), he argues civilization is the source of humans inclination towards war and violence as opposed to our DNA and biological evolution." Civilization itself is responsible for war. Admittedly, the value placed on human life has overall increased through the passing ages. You know, they stopped using the iron maiden a while back now, and you are less likely to get hung from shackles should you get thrown in the slammer, but there are still some undercurrents of the war like nature of humans and advancing 'civilization'. Take technology for example. The mobile phone. Everyone has one these days, but it's first use was in the military. The Internet. Same thing. Splitting the atom. Yep. The atomic bomb. The forefront of scientific discovery and technological advancement seems to find its first application in military use. I don't want to get too cynical about such things, but the correlation is there nonetheless.

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