M31
Strangers and No protection
March 21 2019
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RHP User
6 years ago
Sexual health is No 1. You don’t know who else everyone you sleep with, is involved with and then their lovers. Etc. Who says her ex didn’t cheat on her? All way to risky. I always have regular testing, new relationships only with protection, if more, both get tested. It’s NOT worth the hassle. Someone who cannot respect your boundaries,also not worth the hassle. What other boundaries will they overstep next?
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RHP User
6 years ago
Also, oral wise. I wouldn't want to but do you avoid oral sex with strangers? I mean it's part of the whole foreplay thing so you cant really skip it.. I mean you can but that's no fun lol. I'm just cautious when someone says they don't want protection... Means they could have done the same to another in the past and gotten an STD.
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RHP User
6 years ago
Why you are here then looking looking for a root????
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RHP User
6 years ago
^what do you mean why am I on here? Lol. I have condoms? Haha
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RHP User
6 years ago
Sorry I never used them Only once about 40 years ago and end up left inside her when we were finished 🤔
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FeistyFatty
6 years ago
Ignore the old troll OP. Run a mile from this woman. Its never acceptable to have unprotected sex with casual partners. Once a person even mentions "bareback" to me... red flag..... i immediately start fading out. Oral sex is a risk we all take i guess, but its also an option for you to NOT give. Good luck to you x
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PassionFreaks
6 years ago
Results of health tests are only good if you plan on having sex in the doctors office, once you walk out the door they're worth squat. You may want to play Russian roulette with your health but people in this lifestyle take their sexual health very seriously.
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EarthQueen
6 years ago
Who does like condoms? Nobody. Who wants to catch an STD Nobody She should respect your choice and not push you to change your mind. You don’t know her history . But, at least she’s been up front , so you know her thoughts on it. As for oral ... here’s the double standard... I wouldn’t give a BJ with a condom and I would strongly appreciate reciprocation.
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RHP User
6 years ago
hahahaQuoting 'luvu2' Sorry I never used them Only once about 40 years ago and end up left inside her when we were finished 🤔
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RHP User
6 years ago
Quoting 'PassionFreaks' Results of health tests are only good if you plan on having sex in the doctors office, once you walk out the door they're worth squat. You may want to play Russian roulette with your health but people in this lifestyle take their sexual health very seriously. Yea that's true. It's only tempting as I've never tried but I don't want to play russian roulette at all lol. And I'm not sure I understand your headline. STDs and getting a girl pregnant is everything that concerns me about unprotected sex...what else is there?? lol. An I take it general consensus is oral is usually pretty safe?
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MsSuperFoxy
6 years ago
What if she wants me to cum in her...that is you choice. Do expect consequences. When someone says they don't want protection (prior meeting)...it is a red Flag! If I had these conversations with someone prior to meeting them, it would turn me right off. It is too much, over the top pushing boundaries. I mean you are over thinking things without meeting her. That alone would do my head in. Ms Foxy PS Pity condoms do not come in body bag size for Trolls. ;)
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RHP User
6 years ago
Its not worth it. Herpes is rife in Perth atm, thats another thing you dont want to catch. Ive been chatting to guys and then they say they dont wear condoms....then its tattie bye. No one likes the dratted things but we do respect our health
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AnnieWhichway
6 years ago
Quoting 'luvu2' Why you are here then looking looking for a root???? Why are you here.?
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Rlee552
6 years ago
There are plenty of government websites that can give you definitive medical advice on the risks associated with unprotected sex and also the risks associated with oral. TBH, do not ask the question of us. We cannot give you reassurance and this is not something you take a poll on to work out. Please, please research it. It scares me when you ask the question that the general consensus is oral sex is okay? I am not scared about whether oral sex is okay or not, I am scared you are relying on the consensus to form a view.
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RHP User
6 years ago
I've done my research but was also after what people generally consider to be ok to do as I don't know if I'm going over the top by considering not doing oral. I know there's risks associated with it all and I suppose you can get to know the person a bit and go with your instinct but I think it's best to at least keep the condom on. And that seems to be general consensus as well.
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RHP User
6 years ago
Was mainly asking the question if you get your casual partners to provide evidence of sex health check ups. Seems there's not much point in that anyway as they take 2 weeks to provide a result so they are 2 weeks old anyway...and best to avoid no protection altogether
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AnnieWhichway
6 years ago
With the now nearly untreatable forms of superbugs of gonnoreah and syphilis, there are many reasons for protection. Death in a very unpleasant way is now a reality. I know someone that came back from Asia with one of these. 6 months in care, many of those in a mental stupor. He was lucky to make a complete recovery. In coming years, the sexual lifestyle is going to change drastically.
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MsSuperFoxy
6 years ago
If you are that anxious and concerned go out but your own condoms, dental dams, and get tested. That way you have your own supplies. Ms Foxy PS buy a raincoat, snorkel, wet suit, find and goggles too. Like a boy scout - Be prepared, just in case the flood gates open. 😂☔
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MsSuperFoxy
6 years ago
You do realize not all the responsibility lays with you. The lady has to be accountable for her part too. She's a "MILF", so she should know better and be aware of the risks etc. If she hates condoms, that is not your issue. That's hers. Ms Foxy
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The_Antichrist
6 years ago
Here’s how I see it.... I’m responsible for MY health... They are responsible for THEIRS.... If I WANT a particular outcome that’s not compatible with THEIR health, than WE as a couple aren’t compatible.. And vice versa...
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EarthQueen
6 years ago
Ty I thought you looked familiar. I remember your post from last year😉. So now you’re amongst it, echo x 10 what has been said above. There’s no excuses not to wear one and believe me , I’ve heard a few.
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RHP User
6 years ago
seriosuly not worth it to not be protected, especially with a stranger, essentially 😇
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RHP User
6 years ago
There is plenty of info out there and enough to turn you off wanting sex at all. However be responsible for your own sexual health. Have your tests minimum yearly or every 3 months if your really active. Use protection and to hell with anyone else who doesn't care for there own health.
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RHP User
6 years ago
Trust no one! Trust yourself only. Especially on this site
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Deep_Love
6 years ago
I can't imagine any woman wanting unprotected sex with a stranger.... You could be chatting to a fake profile OP, have you spoken on the phone or just exchanged messages? There's every chance that you're chatting to a dude. Let us know how this plays out ....
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House_of_Fun
6 years ago
Quoting 'Ty6417' She is just out of a long relationship and she says she is clean. Thing is...How do I know...Can't trust a stranger? What if she wants me to cum in her...what if I do and she secretly wants me to so she can make babies hahaha.Also, oral wise. I wouldn't want to but do you avoid oral sex with strangers? I mean it's part of the whole foreplay thing so you cant really skip it.. I mean you can but that's no fun lol. You don't know your bed partners' histories or motives, and I personally think there is nothing wrong with assuming all of them could have STIs (and are fertile as all hell and trying to have your babies), and making your decisions accordingly. I choose to have unprotected oral sex for example, and therefore ask my lovers to disclose how many other people they are having sex with. Does it actually make a difference though, even if they totally honest? Unlikely, but should I catch something, it will be my responsibility. Shakespeare said it: “Love all, trust a few, do wrong to none.”
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The_Antichrist
6 years ago
Btw...would you feel more protected with a couple of mates at the front door??
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RHP User
6 years ago
Quoting 'AnnieWhichway' With the now nearly untreatable forms of superbugs of gonnoreah and syphilis, there are many reasons for protection. Death in a very unpleasant way is now a reality. I know someone that came back from Asia with one of these. 6 months in care, many of those in a mental stupor. He was lucky to make a complete recovery. In coming years, the sexual lifestyle is going to change drastically. Well I am obviously worried about stuff other than HIV, I just mentioned HIV as I thought that was the only permanent disease..but wow did not know it could get that bad. Definitely not taking the condom off haha
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RHP User
6 years ago
Quoting 'EarthQueen' Ty I thought you looked familiar. I remember your post from last year😉. So now you’re amongst it, echo x 10 what has been said above. There’s no excuses not to wear one and believe me , I’ve heard a few. Haha yeah it's me. Still not getting enough though lol.
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RHP User
6 years ago
Quoting 'Deep_Love' I can't imagine any woman wanting unprotected sex with a stranger.... You could be chatting to a fake profile OP, have you spoken on the phone or just exchanged messages? There's every chance that you're chatting to a dude. Let us know how this plays out .... Yeah that's the sad thing. So many fakes I don't understand why they do it lol. But she has offered to talk on phone before we meet. Will have to see how this plays out.
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RHP User
6 years ago
Quoting 'Solitary' Quoting 'Ty6417' She is just out of a long relationship and she says she is clean. Thing is...How do I know...Can't trust a stranger? What if she wants me to cum in her...what if I do and she secretly wants me to so she can make babies hahaha.Also, oral wise. I wouldn't want to but do you avoid oral sex with strangers? I mean it's part of the whole foreplay thing so you cant really skip it.. I mean you can but that's no fun lol. You don't know your bed partners' histories or motives, and I personally think there is nothing wrong with assuming all of them could have STIs (and are fertile as all hell and trying to have your babies), and making your decisions accordingly. I choose to have unprotected oral sex for example, and therefore ask my lovers to disclose how many other people they are having sex with. Does it actually make a difference though, even if they totally honest? Unlikely, but should I catch something, it will be my responsibility. Shakespeare said it: “Love all, trust a few, do wrong to none.” Agree with what you have said and I take the same approach
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RHP User
6 years ago
Quoting 'The_Antichrist' Btw...would you feel more protected with a couple of mates at the front door?? Haha not really. My friends can't fight but I can haha. And yes I know you weren't being literal. I have decided to keep the tool wrapped as I was doing before and if she doesn't like that she can go fuck someone else.
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RHP User
6 years ago
I was eighteen a century ago:) more or less,I lived in a shared house in Fitzroy Melbourne .Someone pinned a note on my door"Take the advice of one who knows and tie your nightie to your toes" Really the only safe sex is onanism ,even then you should wash your hands thoroughly :) Hugs Q
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AnnieWhichway
6 years ago
It's not all doom and gloom. Life is full of risks and one has to balance risk/ happiness/enjoyment. Sti checks are a good start but should be used with building trust in a partner. My own philosophy is built on that and treating partners with respect and trust. To give my partners respect l would never have more than 1 long-term playmate without protection. I'm up front about it so that my unprotected playmate knows that they are the only one. This let's them know l expect the same. Off course it's choosing a person that you can trust. It's not bullet proof but in 40 years I've only had 1 sti
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RHP User
6 years ago
...a rabid pit bull in heat? The dumbass that fucked her without protection. Forget about selling cute puppies and wait until your wanger falls off then you'll sure as hell know from grief. ʗɱ
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Lunchbox73
6 years ago
Don't cum inside a woman unless you're prepared to have her child and the financial responsibility for them. I've known a few guys who have been "trapped" like this. My advice would be insist on condoms until you can establish the trust worthiness of the relationship. Even then you're obviously still taking a risk, but then again risk taking is life. If you're just having casual sex it's just not worth it. I guess the most important question is have you talked to her about it? That is the first step you should take.
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technologic
6 years ago
Good to hear so many in support of safe sex. With regards to oral - I have herpes and I would be incredibly uncomfortable if someone I barely knew went down on me. Like I would prefer to go without unless they're very aware of the risks involved and I felt confident that they would take responsibility for any ramifications. Likewise, I would never go down on another partner without protection and if they didn't want any oral with protection then that's just no oral. Period. How is it possibly safe sex if you perform ANY unprotected oral?? Seriously, think about it. Oral HPV is a big thing and a common cause for oral cancer in men (Google it). And then why do you think gonorrhea has become an antibiotic resistant super bug? - Oral fucking gonorrhea. Because people don't usually think about testing for STDs in their mouths do they? We really need to stop seeing safe oral sex as such a terribly unsexy thing. Sexiness is all in the mind afterall. I think a partner that prioritises their health (at the same time their partners' too) and plays responsibly is very attractive. Plenty of other things to do without needing to resort to oral and a partner that is creative that way is incredibly sexy. OP, I haven't read your profile but the mere fact that you're asking this question and show concern about safe sex is already a very sexy. Please don't EVER risk your health for the sake of peer pressure ("no one does safe oral") or for fear of rejection. Anyone who rejects you for wanting safe sex was never worth your time in the first place. Thank you for posting this question! X
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technologic
6 years ago
Forgot to sign off - Ms T
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RHP User
6 years ago
Quoting 'Lunchbox73' Don't cum inside a woman unless you're prepared to have her child and the financial responsibility for them. I've known a few guys who have been "trapped" like this. My advice would be insist on condoms until you can establish the trust worthiness of the relationship. Even then you're obviously still taking a risk, but then again risk taking is life. If you're just having casual sex it's just not worth it. I guess the most important question is have you talked to her about it? That is the first step you should take. Yeah true. Last thing I need right now would be kids lol. I mean I'd love to be a Dad..even always wanted to be a young father..but the way things are going that aint happening haha. And even i was conceived with my mother on the pill. So I know even that shit doesn't work..though could have improved over the years? lol But agree totally agree with everyone. Condoms always if you're not in a committed relationship.
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RHP User
6 years ago
Quoting 'technologic' Good to hear so many in support of safe sex. With regards to oral - I have herpes and I would be incredibly uncomfortable if someone I barely knew went down on me. Like I would prefer to go without unless they're very aware of the risks involved and I felt confident that they would take responsibility for any ramifications. Likewise, I would never go down on another partner without protection and if they didn't want any oral with protection then that's just no oral. Period. How is it possibly safe sex if you perform ANY unprotected oral?? Seriously, think about it. Oral HPV is a big thing and a common cause for oral cancer in men (Google it). And then why do you think gonorrhea has become an antibiotic resistant super bug? - Oral fucking gonorrhea. Because people don't usually think about testing for STDs in their mouths do they? We really need to stop seeing safe oral sex as such a terribly unsexy thing. Sexiness is all in the mind afterall. I think a partner that prioritises their health (at the same time their partners' too) and plays responsibly is very attractive. Plenty of other things to do without needing to resort to oral and a partner that is creative that way is incredibly sexy. OP, I haven't read your profile but the mere fact that you're asking this question and show concern about safe sex is already a very sexy. Please don't EVER risk your health for the sake of peer pressure ("no one does safe oral") or for fear of rejection. Anyone who rejects you for wanting safe sex was never worth your time in the first place. Thank you for posting this question! X Sorry to hear about the STD hope it clears up! I guess my main concern now would be oral. It would be odd to use a dental dam lol. Plus I don't think it would be that enjoyable for either and to be honest I need the practice as I haven't done much of it.
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RHP User
6 years ago
when NO ONE used protection...SOME of my mob paid for that.. MIGHTILY.. walk confidently and easily.. but carry a big stick..Just in case ;)
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technologic
6 years ago
😂😂... There's not really any 'clearing up' for herpes. Well apparently for some people it does but no one really knows because you can be asymptomatic and still pass it on. You might want to read up and familiarise yourself a bit with the more popular STDs...I know I regretted not educating myself about STDs in general when I was diagnosed with HSV so that I could've at least taken more precautions. Assuming others (even people whom you were very close with) will be responsible adults (for their own health even) and freely disclose that kind of information was incredibly naive... 🙄
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RHP User
6 years ago
Holy shit I did not know that. That sucks sorry to hear :( I genuinely thought all except hiv/aids could be cured. I read up on it more and you can even get Hsv from kissing!? Wtf? How can you actually have casual sex with anyone😂😂 And if you don't mind me asking, did you contract it from oral or non oral sex?
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RHP User
6 years ago
And when I say how can you have casual sex I mean how can anyone have casual sex. Wasnt directed at you :) haha.
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technologic
6 years ago
I don't know specifically how I contracted it. That's the 'magic' of herpes. Then there was the issue of properly diagnosing it as well because I didn't manage to get it tested in time (ideally when the sores are full blown) and when I did I think the results came out negative?? Then many years later when I asked a doctor to do a blood test for the antibodies the doctor basically blew off my request because she said "What's the point? You can't cure it and most people have it anyway." 😒 Btw, it's not part of the standard STD test when you go get screened. You have to specifically request for it. It's a bit of a mixed opinion in the medical world about whether it should be tested or not because apparently the results don't really tell you 'anything'... Anyhoo.. I think in comparison to most other STDs (even the curable ones), herpes is relatively benign as some of the curable ones can cause permanent damage if not caught early (check out syphilis). HSV also encourages you to live healthier as you tend to get more outbreaks when you're run down. 😜 Of course it's still not something you'd want to catch if you can avoid it, but not the worst thing to catch IMHO. And I'm now being careful about not catching something else or passing it on carelessly.. - Ms T
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RHP User
6 years ago
Quoting 'technologic' I don't know specifically how I contracted it. That's the 'magic' of herpes. Then there was the issue of properly diagnosing it as well because I didn't manage to get it tested in time (ideally when the sores are full blown) and when I did I think the results came out negative?? Then many years later when I asked a doctor to do a blood test for the antibodies the doctor basically blew off my request because she said "What's the point? You can't cure it and most people have it anyway." 😒 Btw, it's not part of the standard STD test when you go get screened. You have to specifically request for it. It's a bit of a mixed opinion in the medical world about whether it should be tested or not because apparently the results don't really tell you 'anything'... Anyhoo.. I think in comparison to most other STDs (even the curable ones), herpes is relatively benign as some of the curable ones can cause permanent damage if not caught early (check out syphilis). HSV also encourages you to live healthier as you tend to get more outbreaks when you're run down. 😜 Of course it's still not something you'd want to catch if you can avoid it, but not the worst thing to catch IMHO. And I'm now being careful about not catching something else or passing it on carelessly.. - Ms T Interesting. Thanks for the education. Scary to think heaps of people have the virus dormant though lol even if the effects aren't major. Good to hear it's encouraged a healthier lifestyle :p BTW, are all STD tests done through blood testing? Just curious...
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technologic
6 years ago
If you don't have any active symptoms I guess blood test is the only way.
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EarthQueen
6 years ago
I have used the sexual health clinic at the local hospital and as well as bloods I have also had swabs done of every orifice. Super thorough and also they have counselling available (which I used because of an assault ) and it was very good. I would recommend the service, it was better than any doctors clinic I have been to and is free. Their knowledge on sexual health was extensive and cleared up a lot of questions for me. You probably have one nearby in Sydney if you are ever in need.
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Sensualdays
6 years ago
I think your comments and questions are reflective of your age group. Not sure how old the woman in question is, but many of the older generation weren’t brought up to use them, whereas your generation has been brought up to. I have 2 sons roughly your age and I have had this discussion with them. I always use them, but I do find that a lot of men my age don’t want to. My advice is to use them. As you have said, you don’t want an unwanted pregnancy or any STD’s
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Chillymofo
6 years ago
Quoting 'luvu2' Sorry I never used them Only once about 40 years ago and end up left inside her when we were finished 🤔 Maybe the condom was too big for ya mate and thats why it fell ofThey do come in smaller sizes now!they should be a nice snug fit better to be safe than sorry!
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AnnieWhichway
6 years ago
Quoting 'technologic' If you don't have any active symptoms I guess blood test is the only way. As was explained to me when l questioned Doc about not including the herpes test in my sit check, if type 1(oral) infected the genital are a, the virus does not survive. Likewise if type 2( genital) has infected the oral area, it also does not survive. However, both circumstances produce anti bodies in your bloods which give a positive result even though you do not carry the virus.So the tests can be irrelant and misleading. Only what was said and is confirmed by some googling. Just makes the jungle a bit thicker out there.....
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RHP User
6 years ago
Very interesting. Sounds like it's safe to eat pussy? :p
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thecatsmeowaus
6 years ago
And she’s probably saying this to every guy she’s chatting to at the same time as with you. So when you do end up sleeping with her guess what? You’re sleeping with the 5 other guys she’s barebacked with and then the 20 woman those guys each have slept with etc etc. Safe sex is an absolute with us!
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RHP User
6 years ago
Hi sensual days, check your inbox, I sent you a message a while back and not had a response. You definitely take my fancy and I’m keen to connect. X Lee
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johnny_oddsocks
6 years ago
Why not both get sti tested at the same time? And then be sure neither sees anyone else inbetween. It's not expensive. If she is as keen as you, and interested in no barrier sex she will. Then it comes down to honesty about herpes and if there other partners in the mix. I'd only consider fluid bonding in a real poly situation myself. Sure, there are always risks but if you check all the boxes, and you catch something it will be from being unlucky and not from being stupid. For me, even if she tested neg for everything, that condom will still be on. The whole "dont like them" is a cop out. YOU need to figure out what YOU are ok with. We can tell you what we think or do but that wont help you. Its not easy figuring it out either, esp if you have a partner to consider as well.
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wildcrazyloving
6 years ago
I have found that a lot of general GP's are not thoroughly educated on the risks associated with unprotected oral.. If engaging in unprotected oral, you need to insist on a throat swab for gonorrhea and chlamydia. A bottom swab should also be completed if you receive oral in that area. HPV related cancer is worrisome.. It can be contracted even with the use of condoms. So us women need to ensure we also have regular pap-smears. "The vaccine does not protect against all HPV types- so they will not prevent all cases of cervical cancer.' www.cdc.gov Foreplay is your opportunity to do perform a health check on your partner. As you begin to tease, subtly check for warts, cuts, odours, rashes, yellow/green discharge. Keeping in mind that STI's can also be asymptomatic. For thorough knowledge and testing visit a sexual health clinic. Sexy protected oral trick: Place unwrapped condom in an easily accessible location (e.g. hidden in your underwear), have your partner lay on back while you straddle their thigh, kiss down body, subtly retrieve and prepare condom (can be done behind your back), flick hair to cover your face as your kisses make their way to genital region, place condom on with mouth. NOTE: The thought of unprotected oral can concern some people, so prior to engaging in activity, whisper something to the effect off " I have a very sexy, safe trick for you to enjoy".
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Acucullophiliac
5 years ago
Not worth it. I've only ever gone bareback with partners after we have both been fully tested for stis. But even doing this is no guarantee of being safe, as if they cheat and pick something up they can pass it along. Also, many ppl don't know this, but some stis are only tested for if symptoms show up, meaning that a full sti check coming back clear does not actually mean that u both actually have nothing transmittable. Personally I'd never go without protection with anyone apart from a serious relationship. I've only been with 4 partners bb. It's not worth it. Just imagine ending up with something and having to disclose before having sex with someone. That doesn't sound very sexy does it? But if u think it's worth fukking a stranger with no condom, then go for it.
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RHP User
5 years ago
In a nutshell, if you've ever had a coldsore or swapped germs with someone who has you'll test positive for "herpes" thats why the herpes blood test is next to useless. The only test for herpes that is reliable is if you already have the genital sores and they are swabbed. If you want reliable advice on sexual health your GP may not be the best option, family planning or sexual health clinics run out of the public hospitals is much more reliable.
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