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Sugar Dating
January 12 2017
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MsJonesy
8 years ago
Sugar dating and sugar daddy are the same. In terms of etiquette, there's not much difference to standard ...other than being a sugar daddy means you need to have deep pockets and be willing to empty them often. So a date would mean dinner at an awfully nice restaurant, or drinks at an upmarket bar (at your expense, no dutch dates), and a sparkly gift/trinket is probably expected. If you intend to continue the fun elsewhere, it would be a 4 or 5 star hotel, at your expense. Better to ask those who seek that sort of friendship though, just to make sure you know exactly what you are getting into.
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RHP User
8 years ago
A normal date might be going to the movies and dinner. A sugar date might be going to the movies and dinner, in Hawaii, on your private jet :P
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RHP User
8 years ago
???? Is this just the same but without the calories? - Posted from rhpmobile
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MsSuperFoxy
8 years ago
Sugar Daddy/mumma is the person....Sugar Dating is going on so called "dates" (mutual agreement set up by all parties). It is known that there are people, like uni students, who will only "date" suggar daddies/mummas to support them through uni. All done with mutual agreement of what/what is not expected and followed through with. It's an arrangement as such. Ms Foxy
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MsSuperFoxy
8 years ago
If it's sugar coated... it's shithouse! 😛 Ms Foxy
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EarthQueen
8 years ago
Is dating with a financial benefit for the person being taken on the date. What this is, as in $ amount and what the date could involve would be discussed and mutually agreed before the date (as far as I understand). It could be a one off date or develop into an ongoing arrangement. SBS did an interesting show on it on Viceland channel a few weeks ago. Its probably still online.
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RHP User
8 years ago
Sugar date aka the oldest profession in the world. - Posted from rhpmobile
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Andremmo
8 years ago
I'm intrigued by the sugar dating category and wondering why it doesn't specify whether the male or the female is bringing the sugar. It's going to be uncomfortable when the bill is presented... Where's the equal opportunity police when you need 'em?
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RHP User
8 years ago
Sugar Dating... Sweet.. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
8 years ago
"What would a typical sugar date look like? Jules" Mrs Edelstein, Mrs Trump, and Mrs jagger. Et al.
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RHP User
8 years ago
Quoting 'that50zguy' "What would a typical sugar date look like? Jules" Mrs Edelstein, badly dressed and onlookers feel very embarrassed on your behalf?
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Mischeviouslad
8 years ago
Value, and worth. If you have to bribe others with your dollar value just to spend time in your presence .... how low must your self worth be?!! Guys in here do it.... offer dinners, flights and holidays, too. To me it really doesn't say much about what they think they have to offer others beyond what they can pay for. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
8 years ago
Yep, and plenty of women take them. Because if he offers it's ok right ?
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RHP User
8 years ago
It's a business transaction. You give me some sugar and I'll give you some Candy and we will both have fun. What's wrong with that really? Recently I heard about an app where men will fly you to exotic locations for a holiday. Usually they are in another country so you meet for the first time in the resort. Strange! I have money of my own and prefer experiences to fancy dinners. If I don't like the guy wouldn't it be boring sitting in a 5 star restaurant all night with him? Although if he gave yousome expensive jewelry... hmmm. Let me think on that. =)
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Katkat
8 years ago
I don't really think that's for me I could never do it, for me mutual attraction is a must. I got a message from an older man here before asking me to spend a weekend with him & he'll give me $2k I said no thanks not my thing I prefer to meet up first before anything happens before we click. Plus older men are not my thing at all not saying I don't like them just my preference with a man same age or younger as me so he can keep up to me haha 😂 - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
8 years ago
Where is the line between what is acceptable in the way of gifts,trips,etc and crossing that line to where it becomes ,,well an understanding that sexual favours will be given in exchange ? Does it depend on the nature of the relationship..is it different if the couple involved have a loving relationship to a couple who just have a sexual connection? Where indeed is the line drawn? Q
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RHP User
8 years ago
You are implying it's not alright. That women should feel ashamed for accepting a man's generosity. And why would that be? But I suppose it's okay for a guy to offer right? Woman have taught him that this is expected? He is just a poor shmuck who will get taken advantage of? Yeah right. LOL Why is it an ethical question really? What is so wrong about receiving gifts or being provided a certain lifestyle if both of your needs are being met?
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RHP User
8 years ago
You might be interested to read a little of what 'Ethics' is and what it is about.Wikipedia is as good as any starting point. Arriving at an understanding of an ethically appropriate response to a dilemma requires thoughtful consideration of more than that which is immediately known or expected. Thinking along the lines of Applied Ethics as some others have suggested, 'Sugar Dating' might legitimately be perceived as bordering on (if not actually) a form of prostitution, and therefore carry with it some legal implications. (By this I refer simply to the concept of economic/financial benefit being exchanged for sexual favour). It is a bit of a grey area (and as is so often the case in that border between black and white, some people will perceive dark shades of grey whilst others perceive much lighter shades...)
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sweetfrangapani
8 years ago
So are you expected to put out on these dates or can you just go along for a few drinks and a feed?
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MsSuperFoxy
8 years ago
My understanding is, on some sugar dates, it may just involve companionship which may not include sex. It may just involve dinner, drinks with an intelligent conversation (maybe in Paris with a Tiffany braclet thrown in and a feed of snails). It's what ever the arrangement is between the parties. Hence communication prior. Ms Foxy
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RHP User
8 years ago
It's sugar coating prostitution in my opinion. If you have to pay for it, you do the maths. I agree with summer, Hugh and those sexy chicks? I also seriously doubt they're there for his body, good looks or skills 😀
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RHP User
8 years ago
It is only in your mind. Must have a clear contract and communication. Problem arises when expectations are not met.
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MrPlayful
8 years ago
That it's dating, just like normal dating, except that one party genuinely likes to give and the other party likes to receive gifts. Why? Well we all likegiving and receiving at Christmas so what's the difference I guess? I've also heard of arrangements where only money is exchanged, eg to help with living costs and the like, that to me is where it gets closer to "the line". On the other hand, if I went on a date and paid for dinner, or a cab, or whatever I wouldn't consider that sugar dating. So where is "the line" then? I would think that it would be whether or not the person would normally be attracted to the person if the gifts were not there.
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kickingaround
8 years ago
I have never looked for sugar dating, but did recently have a member I hadn't met yet offer me frequent flyer points for a family member in a bit of a pickle... I accepted them but insisted on paying for them, transferred cash after the flight.... then the person who I had every intention of meeting well before that offer was made disappeared into a ghost-like form So i'd say I accepted a sugar-ish situation but then never got a chance to follow through on the hookup I would have gladly had
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RHP User
8 years ago
It seems that you don't know 50z well enough to finish his sentences... YET :-p
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RHP User
8 years ago
On Friday night, there are sites out there specific to sugar dating. Apparently the women outnumber the men there :-O
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Sawadee
8 years ago
.. but if she insists, I'll bring few of those lil paper sugar packs , and when the times right , tear them open and sprinkle them all over if she so desires.. If she wants to go overseas, we can reinact the Titanic scene on the Manly ferry.. Better still if her name is Titanic , she can go down?
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MrPlayful
8 years ago
I don't think that is sugarish, you intended to and repaid the debt to someone who was at the time a friend (of sorts). If he offered you a a pair of diamond earrings or a flight to meet him at Hamilton Island rather than for someone else in a pickle, then you are sugar dating. And as you said, you were wanting to meet him anyhow before that offer was made. If you are confused about the disappearing act... could he have been married? ....
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kickingaround
8 years ago
I think that paying $100 for a flight which was worth $500 online is sugar"ish", but i'm ok with disagreeing about that He could be anything, I never met him... I just think it's a bizarrely chivalrous thing to do and then disappear before meeting
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RHP User
8 years ago
Haha 😂😂😂 thanks for the laugh
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MsSuperFoxy
8 years ago
Come to think of it...I know two ladies who did start off dating men (who where 10+ yrs older and wealthy) put them through uni. They were both single at the time (free to see other people) and are now high professionals regarded in their line of career. One is a doctor, the other a barrister. The barrister ended up marrying the man ( 2 children). That was the verbal arrangement in place. The doctor, is still single. I spoke to the ladies regarding the arrangements, and both said, the men where just happy to see them succeed as that was all they ever wanted for them. The ladies speak honorably and hold high regard of the men. How I see it, everyone is happy. So, there is successful stories to be told regarding sugar dating and sugar daddies. Ms Foxy
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RHP User
8 years ago
You might consider the possible motivation of the wealthy 'Sugar Daddy' in this (and other) scenario(s). Wealthy individuals always have a need for good legal advice. Good legal advice and loyalty are expensive. Similarly, (sensible) people usually seek to maintain their health and prolong their lifespans. I don't consider it beyond the realm of possibility this man found both of these girls highly attractive and intelligent, and perceived opportunity to secure for himself an 'insurance policy' of sorts. It sounds as though he may have carefully assessed each of these girls before deciding which one he would try to settle down with, knowing that whichever one he did ultimately settle with, each would carry (at least the sense of) an obligation to repay his generosity in their early lives and careers. It may be found he has been able to exploit the knowledge, experience, and networks of contacts developed by both of these girls to his own advantage over many years. Then again, perhaps he is just a genuinely generous and altruistic old coot with a penchant for attractive, intelligent younger girls, huh? (I'm not jealous - it sounds like good work if you can get it!)
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RHP User
8 years ago
So a more mature term would be benefactor or sponsor or patron, like artists have.
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RHP User
8 years ago
I guess i enjoy being suga daddy then - Posted from rhpmobile
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swingalingson
8 years ago
I am currently looking for a SUGA mumma hot like STifler's mum in American Pie. But not after the extensive plastic surgery she did after the movie. She was smoking in Night at the Roxbury with Chris Katan and Will Ferral!! Or one like that horny chick from sexy in the city. Samantha.. Kim whats her name?
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rupamohan
8 years ago
Assuming the sole purpose is sex... It is a business transaction aka sex work but with some choice..so some pleasure may involve both ways. Generally sex worker have choice to work but doesn't have choice to select a customer. If sugar daddy is only looking for sexual pleasures..my guess is dealing with sex worker will result in much better service.
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mrfunandnaughty
7 years ago
Just another name for prostitution.... not my idea of swinging. - Posted from rhpmobile
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Xxalex
7 years ago
I've always liked helping my mates but never really had the opportunity financially to do much.. Both my fwb's I've had were, and one of them still is, spoilt rotten.. Neither are currently fwbs. One is still a very close friend and the other is well.. Who the fark knows... but both were doing it a lot tougher then me. Both single parents, always putting their kids first and going without themselves. Even though we were just FWB, and zero commitment or expectations, I'd always treat them as if they were my girlfriends, helping whenever I could. It was just my way of showing them that they were being awesome parents and a kinda reward and showing them that they were loved and noticed. It could be looked at as sugar dating, but that was never the intention from my side.. I just like helping my mates (benefits or no benefits), male or female for that matter of fact... As an example, I just bought a car for the one who is still a friend, (the one on disability), just to help her get where she needs to in life. She felt trapped and unable to move forward with her life and a car opens opportunities for her... Much like my date currently on datefinder. I fully intend paying for both dinner and the drive in. I'm not talking fancy night out or extra gifts, but just seeking company for a chilled night with no expectations. Not sure if the whole sugar dating is more posh style, but I always look at dating more school, where if I ask you out, I just expect to be paying.. And not expecting to get anything more then getting to know and spend time with you... I certainly wouldn't call myself a sugar anything.. I just think removing the financial cost from a date makes people more likely to think, what have I got to loose, and gives more opportunity for making new friends... I'm assuming sugar dating, you would be more expecting a "return" on your "investment". - Posted from rhpmobile
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Xxalex
7 years ago
Where is the line between helping your mates or FWB, and sugar dating... Is it the expectations that go with it... - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
I haven’t read all the responses but to add fuel to the fire, gentlemen if sugar dating interests you but you’re a bit short on cash check out salt dating. The city bachelor wrote a pretty good piece on it a while back. I’ve not done it myself, I steer clear of anyone professing to want a sugar relationship or anything of the sort but each to their own. - Posted from rhpmobile
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Gr8distraction
7 years ago
Pop up in profiles. Never understood the term "Sugar Dating" . Have heard and understood the term "Sugar Daddy". Its pretty big in China, however they call it " A Second Wife"They are housed, given an allowance for shopping etc, may even be given a car and taken on holidays.Its all in the open, even the wife knows about it. May not like it, but they don't have much say in the matter. Need to be wealthy to have a second wife. Is it a good thing?........Well i can't see it being bad....A struggling Uni student gets to enjoy being taken out, wined and dined, gets to see and do things that she may not normally be able to afford.Im sure that the big end of town have been doing it for ages. Just now it has its own label.Businessmen like Trump etc. It only becomes a problem, if they throw their standing around to manipulate or take unwanted advantage of someone. You got your ears on Weinstein?
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sugar_vanessa
7 years ago
Everyone wins with a quality sugar arrangement :) If you're both upfront and honest about your expectations (unlike many people with traditional dating ;) ) then both parties get to enjoy experiences they wouldn't otherwise be able to have. It's unfortunate that so many people misunderstand the basic concept (as demonstrated in this thread) because they're missing out :) - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
Not sure if this works in reverse? In any case, it appears all 3 of Gina Rinehart's daughters are married... not sure on Gina herself haha - Posted from rhpmobile
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deepestpurple
7 years ago
Quoting 'Mischeviouslad' Value, and worth. If you have to bribe others with your dollar value just to spend time in your presence .... how low must your self worth be?!! Guys in here do it.... offer dinners, flights and holidays, too. To me it really doesn't say much about what they think they have to offer others beyond what they can pay for. - Posted from rhpmobile Why do you feel a need to deride other people's choices? Let me guess, those grapes you can't reach are sour right? Maybe you posit that all that is worthy to offer is company and cutting wit (in your drelusions) because the reality is that is all you have to offer? How is that really different to that which you mock? It's not going all that well for you is it? You seem to have a lot of free time, no one interested in what you offer? Take a look at these forums, how many topics has you in the first 5 replies making some permutation of the same snide remark? Such a beacon of positivity, you rarely do more than deride, your superiority complex is as tiresome as it is misplaced. Do you think you're funny? Didn't you quit these forums once? How long did that last? You're the joke and you're hilarious.
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patricf69
7 years ago
I see it as a relationship that may not be even, one will be younger and hotter (a different league), the other will be willing to pay for a little extra. So a way for the hotter one to get a little more in life and a way for the one with a few $$ to spend on entertainment to get entertained :-) Naturally I'd say it is a form of the oldest profession but less formal, more choice when it comes to what is bartered.. If that makes things any clearer ;-)
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sxy30sGCguy
4 years ago
Let’s be real here folks, sugar dating is just prostitution by another name. It’s the oldest profession on earth, it has its place in society. We have legal brothels in Australia. I personally think RHP allowing sugar dating as an option on the site was a HUGE mistake as it’s now flooded with prostitutes/sugar babies that see men as nothing more than a ATM. Sorry ladies you wanted equality, you got it, if you want “sugar” either a) go work in a brothel, or b) get a job.......& do us all a favour and get off RedHotPie because all you are doing is ruining the site and the swinging community
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