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Support for young men
May 26 2014
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RHP User
11 years ago
I grew up with 'suck it up' attitude and there's nothing wrong with me. Being Peter Pan and being able to fly is fantastic.
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gazpacho
11 years ago
Fuck the young men. That's all I have to say about that. Well, I am thankful we have a rigid gun policy here. Stiff chance of getting the kind of help required in those circumstances, because our medical system and our legal system is crippling. I really believe that the modern generation are more open about their feelings than we ever were, and that's a wonderful development. I like hearing what young people have in mind. HugsGAzpacho
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RHP User
11 years ago
Well, personally I grew up in a country that fell apart right after I turned 18 ) When I went to the Uni at 19 I had to work to support myself... not because I wanted to be able to pick up chicks, but because I didn't want to die of hunger I remember working at construction yards on the weekends and getting paid in cash and feeling filthy rich because I could afford buying food not just for myself, but for a couple of other students in my group. At night, where I lived, it was relatively safe to walk in groups of 3-5 guys or more. Of all the kids I grew up with, I think one third got killed on the streets, another third died drinking dodgy alcohol or falling out of the windows of the high rise buildings while drunk on the dodgy alcohol ) At 26, I moved to the bigger city because it was getting harder and harder to survive where I lived, even for people who had jobs. When I turned 30, I got my skilled PR visa and moved to Australia. How much emotional support was I getting through all those years? Hmmm, let me get back to you on this ))) Quoting 'gazpacho51' Fuck the young men. That's all I have to say about that. Amen to that!
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RHP User
11 years ago
Quoting 'kinky_gemini' At 26, I moved to the bigger city That should read "24"
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Dryphuz
11 years ago
Quoting 'RunAwayJoinCircz' The problem was that the Psychiatrists assumed that the GPs had undertaken their own assessment and taken care of the medication aspect of things, when In fact they hadn't done anything and were waiting for the Psychiatrist to say what meds might be appropriate (because they can't prescribe themselves). Actually a psychiatrist can prescribe medication. A psychologist can not. A psychiatrist is a medical doctor who has done a further 5 years studying psychology. A Psychologist has just done 4 years of psychology and then 2 years training. A GP who refers someone to a psychologist without doing the basic assessment is a crap GP and should be avoided for all medical complaints not just mental ones. And a GP who has done the basic assessment will know whether medication is necessary. A patient can still refuse the medication though. I agree with most of the rest of what you said though. there is however beyondblue's campaign to encourage men to acknowledge they may need help. From what i can tell, in Australia there is no disparity between treatment available between the ages or sexes, just disparity between the awareness of the fact that its there. If you've got money you can skip the GP entirely and just self refer yourself to a psychologist or psychiatrist. The free sessions on medicare are for people who don't have the money for this option and they have to go through their GP. Although its recommended you go to the GP first regardless of whether you take the free route or the paid one. The only way to improve things is to make more young men aware that depression and anxiety can affect anyone and seeking professional help is not a cop out, but a responsible way of dealing with what is being recognized as a pandemic problem. Educating adults that thier sons (and daughters) may need to be encouraged to deal with their problems responsibly rather than 'having a shot of cement and hardening the f$@% up.' Of course plenty of older people are too stuck in their ways to take this advice themselves let alone pass it on to their children.
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RHP User
11 years ago
How many of the young men will answer any mental health questionnaire honestly??? Their own shame, and fear of diagnosis will inevitably be the devil to their progress. That was my problem. I was living in a world of denial. So... Is it mental health we need to tackle or the state of denial that some are in?? - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
11 years ago
Are strong confident in search learning alive and vibrant with the world in there hand women mates lifes a breeze! Its the broken older men that have been cast ! Rejected ! Pushed aside ! Forgotten that we need to help . - Posted from rhpmobile
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Dryphuz
11 years ago
Quoting 'sir_stir' Is it mental health we need to tackle or the state of denial that some are in?? ^ This...
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RHP User
11 years ago
I think as a society there is way tooooo much sticking our heads in the sand. There are some support programs, but how about standing up for each other & supporting our friends when things get rough???? Females tend to lean on each other, but males also need the support & are less likely to ask for it. No one should have to suck it up. If someone opens up to me & talks about the shit that is happening for them, then I am privileged that they entrusted me with that. It is not a burden as some people would say, it's a privilege.
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RHP User
11 years ago
I think looking upstream from depression and visits to psychs is worth exploring here. What gives a young man a sense of belonging? I would love to hear some stories of men who had support, family, community etc, and what contributed to their sense of self and place. Did you have positive role models, mentors, heros, people to look up to? What made your childhood a solid foundation for your adult life?
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RHP User
11 years ago
All who have posted so far....please keep on posting your views xx Q
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RHP User
11 years ago
i would post the url but it might get blocked so search 'beyondblue' on google if you dont know about it already there is plenty of support, and if you need it, then get it i have been to 2 events recently, a pirate kink party which we raised money for beyondblue due to the suicide of a local performer and to a steampunk ball which we raised money for lifeline dont "suck it up" there is plenty of condifental support to get you through whatever is going on you dont have to be alone dont become another statistic
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RHP User
11 years ago
Love it - Posted from rhpmobile
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