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The Art of Seduction vs Post Seduction Ho-ing

May 30 2013

Been reminiscing about my Lion of late....I have a heap of old notes and paraphenalia on discussions we have had at times over various topics, mineral commodities, global construction and FWA hearing transcripts. LOL he was never boring. In the earliest days of our courting and after our first encounter he asked me what I thought was best about our interaction, was it our slow dance of seduction and then my thoughts of whether or not I would deteriorate to post-seduction ho-ing. THE RESPONSE: You gave me much to think about. 　And since I'm still learning about life, and trying to figure out how to get others to help me get what I want without damaging myself or them; I've found a definition for what I think you've already identified as a beginner's dance. In response to your question, "Difference between the art of seduction and the post seduction ho-ing...." The Art of Seduction is designed to arm you with weapons of persuasion and charm so that those around you will slowly lose thier ability to resist without ever knowing how or why it has happened. 　It is an art of war for delicate times, a game of psychology, not beauty. Post-seduction ho-ing gives free reign to lust, lust once satisfied without any further "intrinsic motivation", desire, psychological or emotional bond leads to disinterest. We are creatures of pleasure and most often that feeling of excitement is generated through our interaction with others rather than from within ourselves. Erotic desire and love lurk beneath the surface of every human encounter, better to give free reign to those skills than try to use them only in the bedroom one would think. I am a gentle soul my love, you once observed that I was also cynical; and after the other evening you know I want more from the rest of my professional life. And I am ill-equipped with the tools necessary to get there. You appear quiet, detached ..... but amiable, unassuming and easy going that in itself is charismatic. This is a far bigger pond than the one i am accustomed to swimming in where i knew the players, thier motivations and the rules of the game. 　 Perhaps you are a danger and I'm already out of my depth aren't I? Our dance was always slow, much like a gazelle pitting wits with a hungry lion. We used to have some pretty fun conversations and debates....this is merely one. So I'm curious, what are your thoughts on the topic? Personally I love the Art of Seduction, post seduction ho-ing doesn't do it for me. Gaining someone's attention is easy, keeping it is quite another. I'm a fan of attracting more bees with honey than vinegar and this is fine for the workforce, management seem more impervious to this. So I guess I'm asking how do you use Seduction in your workplace, if you do; or other areas of your life? What are your tactics and does it work for you? On Safari (baring innermost thoughts)

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RHP User

12 years ago

you've had a big week of reminiscing s. I find in business (as a male and a leader/ceo) that if you are confident in your own self that your team will follow you. In particular I find that when women choose to get on board they do so 100%. I have had many interesting discussions with both men and women on this topic. When I have left organisations there is always 1 lady that I ask myself the question of 'what if. I would/could never instigate as these people 'trust' me enough to follow me. Simple recipe be confident, lead with authority, empower people but most of all be respectful.

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12 years ago

Seduction in the work place?? I have seen some women compliment male bosses and comment how clever they are. But men need that reassurance I find. :p

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12 years ago

What exactly is your question? And I hope your lion doesn't mind that you have posted his email to you on an open forum?!?

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12 years ago

I'm not speaking about sexual seduction or sex in the office. Meh totally uninterested in that Meeks. Huggy I had an all make workforce who were happy, productive and respectful. I am speaking at corporate level. Meeks the question was raised by him, my response was posted. I'm musing, my lion died last year. One of a handful of people knowledgeable in world IR etc etc specialised in West Africa and Arabic countries in mining and construction. Our crossing paths was a complete fluke, our 2yrs is a treasure and experience I hold onto dearly. I'm not talking about women who use sex to get ahead. Moreso men and women who use seduction psychology to achieve an outcome. Sex is too easy...... - Posted from rhpmobile

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RHP User

12 years ago

with my landlord to usurp the jerks in the Real Estate office, does that count ?

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12 years ago

I tend to watch body language for a while. How a person is dressed, how things change for them in a few weeks, what they talk about. You have to know who and what your dealing with.how astute is the person, overt may work for some, but not for othersseduction is about ego, and one has to find out how the cat likes to be stroked.I rather like people to come to me, to talk to me to trust me.With staff , I am not their friend I am the boss but I am friendly enough so that they wanted to come to work.Business is business for me. But I tend to put my life in boxes and try not to mix my boxes up.If you listen and watch for long enough then the object of your seduction will walk right into the trap. TR Lioness

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12 years ago

That does count!!! Lol well done.

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12 years ago

Lady Tuscan. The boxes thing sounds great. Seems I must sharpen my powers of observation more in my next placement.....and wholly agree about the ego thing. Men in power are full of it, women in power are susceptible to only certain approaches I've found. Guess I'm lucky I've really only ever had males in my reporting structure..... My lion didn't have an ego, he was just all power to the end. I only saw him chuff egocentrally (if that's a word) once. When I attempted dodging answering the question "Could you possibly be falling in love with me." Shithead!! Thanks for the responses.

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12 years ago

caused a kerfuffle when she said that Ita used her sexual capital to advance her career with Mr.Packer....Ita was very miffed.....seduction is just manipulation with lipstick in business......I prefer lip balm at my age.

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RHP User

12 years ago

That's a complex post filled with emotion and circumstance. However your question about seduction in the work place seems unprofessional in view of it being a work place doubling up as a place to pursue sexual relations/affairs/intimacy..Your workplace may facilitate inter-personal-relations?.Most to my knowledge do not due to implications between co-workers and down-time affecting efficiency.

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11 years ago

I wasn't asking the question in a sexual context. Moreso I guess how Freya kind of put it, manipulation with lipstick (or not if you're a man) to persuade or encourage an idea in the direction that you prefer it to go. Sex in the workplace is over-rated!! And doesn't interest me at all and I'm more than aware of the problems inter-office liaisons and sexual innuendo wanted/unwanted can cause in a workplace. Ok if Ita Buttrose DID use overt sexuality to gain favour with Packer to progress her career how exactly did she do it if sex wasn't on the table? Lol how do men use seduction with other men to get them to do as they wish at the boardroom table? It can't all be dominance based on powerplay. How do people seduce others into buying into thier progression or development in a company/role? Let's face it, I don't come equipped with the appropriate set of knives for backstabbing to get ahead. Or a long tongue and I don't believe in brown-nosing. So other than already working my arse off making others look good what other measures can I employ to get ahead?

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11 years ago

Well, you may have to step on a few fingers on the way up. The way to get up is to help others up with care not to thwart your own journey.Be charismatic with those who absorb charisma. Move slowly away from those who tie you down.Dance in conversation, listen well. Be diplomatic, charming and serious as the situation affords. Be on time, of your word and reliable. Small minds talk behind closed doors - so avoid gossip. Be Professional in attitude and appearance. Do courses, improve yourself and hang with those who make decisions. Increase your opportunities by being everywhere (Time and place is a lot to do with things)..As for your enemies, create a perimeter around them(they usually create their own walls of deceit/lies), open a section of that perimeter so they see an escape - execute them on their way out..Good Luck

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11 years ago

Excellent suggestions.....will endeavour to put into practice asap. :)

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