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The awful F word

April 04 2014

The word that seems to divide people like no other...FEMINISM....if you are a woman do you identify as a feminist,what does it mean to you,if you don't what are your feelings about feminism and if you are a man,what do you think the impact of feminism has had generally..for good or bad xx Q

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  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    But just want to say men can be feminists too.

  • Mischeviouslad

    Mischeviouslad

    11 years ago

    ...women have actively sought to secure choices and act options to upon them. Nothing scary about feminism..... only angry bitter bigoted feminists - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    However as in all struggles, some go the extreme to get the point across (as they are entitled to do). We do have to thank the extremists, for it was from their fight that we reap the rewards.... Well, then there is the confused period where families were trying to incorporate such a change into their lifestyle, the influence on the next generations and institutions.......... Of course, this still goes on... I believe, the day where there is equality in wages and home division will be our true test.............. I do say thank you to all those before me, as I am now allowed to choose my education, be part of an election process, choose my lifestyle etc and still love having a man open a door or pull out a chair for me......

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Those who are against true feminism - that being essentially DG's definition - are only against it because for so long they've been successful because of the lack of equality; and now they're simply being exposed as the true fakes they always were. Me personally, I see feminism as a good thing. Especially in the workplace. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    I thought this was going to be about THE F WORD.... LOL I'm a girly girl n like being treated as such. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    In short, all it means to me is that I want to be treated equally. I want equal pay for equal work, the current gap according to the ACTU is 18%. In Feb 2012 Fair Work Aust. ordered a pay rise for Community sector workers who are predominately female by up to 41% to bring them in line with the public sector. The government 'should' phase this in over 8 years. I don't want my gender to be a basis of whether or not I'll be employed, whether it's because I am of child bearing age or if I have kids that will get sick. We desperately need to address current issues affecting woman like child care, Single Parent payments, crisis housing, Refuge funding, etc. Oh look I could bang on about this forever but I'll spare you, but we have a very long way to go. My feelings? Some peoples view is that we are hairy legged, angry, bra burning, man haters. I'm well manicured, happy with an awesome lingerie collection that loves men. God I love men! I just want to get paid the same as them.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    I thought this would be about FLOPPIES. I treat all people with the same amount of distain no matter their gender.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    my views put me firmly in the feminist camp - but I dislike the name as I think it is divisive and misleading. I believe in equal rights for all, whether they're discriminated against for being male, female, white, black, or anything else. I think it suffers very heavily from the militant, almost religious sect-like approaches by some viewpoints - telling others that you're not a feminist unless you're their kind of feminist or making choices that they approve of.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    ...between Neptune (the idealist) and Stalky (the pragmatist).Neither one was actually wrong but I enjoyed watching them go head to head all the same.

  • inspirit

    inspirit

    11 years ago

    Though I do admire old fashion values.

  • madotara69

    madotara69

    11 years ago

    of the work I have done for the shit money, it doesn't just apply to women, we all can get used by greedy fuckers. I would still rather do those jobs than have some lady have to do them. I don't think in our lifetime women will be treated respectfully, though I will stand beside any woman treated less than another. Mado Mado Tara xx

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Lol being a princess and being a feminist is a little different lol You precious little girl you ;) - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    I prefer to think of myself as a humanist. Pusscat xxx

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    I'll probably get shot for this but, I believe that there are certain jobs for men and certain jobs for women. However I do believe that if both male and female are doing the same job with the same responsibility then they should get the same pay. We (humans) all have awesome qualities specific to our gender and should use that to our advantage. My husband is a fitter and turner but is also very strong. His work is predominantly male. They do have women out there with them doing the same type of jobs with the same pay but they don't work as hard because they aren't as strong. My field of work is aged care. It's predominantly female. However there are a few males employed with us as well and they get the same pay. But there are certain jobs they can't do. Maybe I'm just rambling. But that's my 2 bob worth - Posted from rhpmobile

  • lovman8

    lovman8

    11 years ago

    Communism has a similar problem , wonderful theory that has difficulty being put into practise. Seriously though if feminism is that women should be treated with the same respect and rights and privileges that men have in society, ( equal pay just one of many ) I ma all for it. Unfortunately women and men are not quite the same ( which most people notice and hence sites like this) and I think sometimes we get hung upon this detail and miss the big picture. I am definitely in favour of the "F" and would like to think I am a feminist

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    And until both sexes are truly equal in terms of opportunities and there is no discrimination because of sex, I'm all for it. However as long as there are men, there will always be a need for it. Unfortunately we have such a way with women and the way we treat them! - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Should women stop asking for equal right and stop fighting for it, we would go back to where we have been. I am getting a tiny bit frightened; we will go backwards.....have a look how many young women don’t vote. These young women have no idea what this implicates in later life, voting is in my opinion a very strong desire to be counted. Women have died for it suffered for it. As long as we have a government with 80% or more and male dominate, not much will change. We are not less as any male on this earth, men would not do many jobs we do for so little pay, however we have to be also careful to get the balance right and that’s the danger in it all. Still an equal balance in government would maybe tip the scale. We like to be equal then many, many things have to change. A whole lot of things have to change in the work place in schools and in the upbringing of our children. At the moment many men are “punished for being MALE....in the children’s court in the family court and in the gender equality to. Many men don’t know either any more how to be. Feminism, I say ohh yes I am behind, however not on the basis of killing the males of all rights.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Feminist activists campaign forwomen's rights– such as in contract law, property, and voting– while also promoting bodily integrity, autonomy, andreproductive rightsfor women. Feminist campaigns have changed societies, particularly in the West, by achievingwomen's suffrage,gender neutrality in English,equal pay for women, reproductive rights for women (including access tocontraceptivesand abortion), and the right to enter into contracts and own property.[7][8]Feminists have worked to protect women and girls fromdomestic violence,sexual harassment, andsexual assault.[9][10][11]They have also advocated for workplace rights, includingmaternity leave, and against forms ofdiscrimination against women.[7][8][12]Feminism is mainly focused on women's issues, but because feminism seeksgender equality, feminists have argued thatmen's liberationis a necessary part of feminism and that men are also harmed bysexismand gender roles. Women with formal education (at any level) are likelier to delay marriage and subsequent childbirth, be better informed about infant and child nutrition, and ensure childhood immunization. Children of mothers with formal education are better nourished and have higher survival rates.[1]Equalization of educational opportunities for boys and girls may take the form of several initiatives:

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    "Feminism is only dangerous if you're invested in patriarchy" I think this is where the lines get crossed as most of you above have mentioned. Feminism has NOTHING to do with being Feminine. I can be a Feminist and be a girly girl.I can be a feminist and work in a physical male dominated industry.I can be a feminist by lobbying indiscriminate acts and actions politely without being militant. I wish you could dig that up Jensman. I'd enjoy that. Inspirit - an equal to what? Your own gender in our society? Because you are certainly not treated equally across both genders. Fitzy sure our genders do impose some limitations but the generalisation is astounding. Maybe the Fitters & Turners have different strengths, I'm sure there are some smaller gents whereby some woman are stronger. I've seen some female prawn trawler fishermen your hubby wouldn't mess with. But should male dominated trades be allowed to earn 40% more than Community Sector workers as it's a predominately female held role? (We're talking social services, welfare, crisis, refuge etc) Where the emotional strength required for those roles are immense but paid at a shocking 40% disparity. And in your industry of Aged Care - you are public sector, the only lot regulated for same pay. See where I'm going with this? No feminist would argue we are the same, we just want equality. Last year, yes in 2013, your average pay disparity between the genders doubled to an average of $5,000 of 2012 Uni Grads. The worst disparity was architecture where woman started at $43,000 & men at $52,000. That's 17.3%. Last year. In Australia. Huh? @Word_Smith - you just made me really sad. *sob @Litonya - are you concerned about the era of young woman dumbing themselves down, more interested that their lipstick matches their nail polish and wouldn't know a political party if it bit them on the arse? But knows all about Kim Kardashian? Yep - terrifies the bejeezes out of me too. @Q - where the devil are you?