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The man drought

April 07 2014

apparently Australia is in the middle of another drought,the man drought.....single women are often choosing to have children by themselves.IVF treatments have doubled in number for single women.So men,where are you?I am not talking about the ones who already have children but the 25-40 year olds who are single and child free.Are you not interested in having a serious relationship and that is why you are here?......and those of you who are attached,would you consider a polyamorous relationship?.....If you are a single woman and you want to have a family,would you go it alone,or consider polyamory?.....I have been a single parent from the very beginning,it was the hardest thing I have ever done,if you have had a similar experience, always been a single parent with little or no support,what would your advice be to anyone contemplating this.....and of course the same goes for single dads.xx Q

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  • Mr_MrsAraps

    Mr_MrsAraps

    11 years ago

    For me Q it is simple. I have had my kids and don't want any more. Apologies for the generalisation but believe the majority of guys in that age group are either in relationships already, have had kids already and don't want them in a second/third relationship or the guys just don't want kids full stop.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Hello Miss Q. I come from a broken home. My parents split up when I was twelve and my sister was eight. I stayed with dad and my sister went with mum. It really sucked. I know when I was thirteen I was already thinking that my aim would to have a loving family of my own. Yes at thirteen I was already thinking that way. When I met some girls they said it was sweet but never saw me as a partner as I was "too serious". Now that I am a bit older, the ladies I have been meeting have just come out of relationships themselves and see me as a great guy to help stabilise them if you will. However, the women I meet are not quite ready to commit to a long term relationship (understandably) and not ready to start a family. I guess I haven't met a woman yet who has taken the time to reflect, grow and to be ready to take that next step. I kind of feel like that guy off That movie Good Luck Chuck ;) When I signed up for RHP, I had no expectations other than to look, find and discover...more things about myself and hopefully interesting people too. I was definitley awakward to begin with as i assumed sex was at the forefront to every conversation. And also talking about my fantasies etc is not something I do with just anybody so I do take a little warming up to get that out lol. And that really put my frame of mind in the negative as I thought women want it now so to speak and wouldn't take the time to get to know me and just move on to the next prospect. My expectation to have sex for me was never there as I don't believe I am that lucky lol. But in saying that I am always hopeful of meeting and getting to know a special woman who wouldn't mind having the fun and also know it would be going somewhere. So while women can say there is a man drought, I can say that I am one of the many guys out there who like the fun but are not disrespectful, mindless and above all selfish. I for one am a guy who is definitely a bit shy to start off with....so give the shy guys a chance ;)

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    I will want kids someday, but not to raise them on my own. People have kids for different reasons, my reason would be 'I've met someone I love and it's mutual and we just want to add an extra to our family' At the moment, I'm happy and content not having any kids. I'm in a serious relationship but we aren't married, I'm just here for the educational and enlightening component of the forums. I'd only have kids once there is that commitment and if it was what we both wanted. From what I've seen its bloody hard work being a parent, can't imagine why anyone would choose to go it alone. And then how will I explain it to the child growing up that your dad was donor X? - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Over in the west its raining men. the problem is they young and cashed up mine guys and want to party hard, and many party without condoms and become fathers. That does not mean they will hook up with the woman either. I am still amazed how women do not even think this through about not getting pregnant. Men the same thing but its common as mud. My lawn mowing guy just knocked up a woman who is 37 and already had a seven year old. the poor fuck has that trapped rabbit look about him now as he is ten years younger. If you look at the age demograhphic on RHP what does that tell you?I would guess most women on here have had kids. There is the exception of course but most women on this thing are over thirty and the clock is ticking for them. Or some have had a relationship and it went pear shaped and they are either shy of relationships or craving the mythical man to step up to the plate. lets face it free fucks are aplenty on RHP , with very little effort on the part of some. why buy the cow when you can get the milk anytime you like and to be honest I think a lot of guys are sick of being burnt by women. I see a few of my husbands mates who have been taken to the cleaners and been shit on from a great height, cant say I blame em for going to working girls. I got a paper the other day, the west Australian and holly fuck there are pages of hookers in there now, and cheap as chips. Mostly from asia , so if you think about that for around fifty you can get a wife for half an hour. I keep looking to see if there is a male version of that but for my fifty I want them to shower me, wash my hair and full body massage and to tuck me in bed no sex and kiss my for head. Pervert that I am

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    but if the time comes for me to consider a relationship again, I have almost as hard a task trying to find a 'normal' guy who also doesn't have or want kids. I suppose I'd consider it if their children were older...would depend on a lot of factors.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    30 years old, single, no kids (that I know of... lol), fit, outgoing, down to earth, hard working, driven, enthusiastic about life, open minded... basically starting the prime of my life. I'm sure the very few people I have met on here can vouch that I'm a good man but... yet barely get any replies from the messages I send on here. lol. there isn't a man drought, or for that fact a woman drought. there is a trust drought.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    I totally agree with lady T, she's spot on there with so much. I have 3 kid's. I was a single mum young, the dad wanted nothing to do with the whole thing, bizarre fact here, condom's were used and the contraceptive pill. Ever read the fine print on the boxes of either of those form's of contraception? ? Not 100% coverage. No sh#t. No sperm donor required lol... although he may as well have been :) I can tell you like any other mum will, it was the best thing that happened to me. My kids are my world. Can't have been that bad because I had two more. I'm single again now, happily so. A family to me isn't just a mum, dad an kids.... it's single mums, single dad's, bi couple's, gay couple's and so forth. As long as there's a bond any joy with plenty of love an support "you iz family" :P, besides, who defines the parameters of a family? ?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Q I believe LadyTuscan has covered most of the salient points. If one looks at the last census data it shows that women overall outnumber men however this would be biased in the upper age demographic as men on average die earlier than women, hence the surplus. From my readings (extensive) it appears that many aspects of feminism have sold women a poisoned chalice and women are now on a social dating/mating level reaping the whirlwind. As LadyTuscan has so eloquently put, why would guys in the demographic you speak about become involved in a serious relationship involving children when: Feminism inspiration has driven the price of sex to zero so it is readily available especially for the "hawt" men that 80% of women are appearing to chase. For others who find the chasing of entitled and in many cases delusional women to arduous can PFP (pay for play) without any ongoing hassles that many a relationship may bring. Also for a fist full of dollars a man in his 40's and heck even much older can have sex at will with young, shapely hot women and she leaves afterwards so he is not subject to drama at various time. As around 70% of women pull the ejection handle on marriage (some for very good reason of course) many because they are "not happpy" or are bored. Many probably married the reliable, but possibly predictable boring beta guy (because of his resources) but he is not exciting and they (wives) yearn for the "hawt" guy that will make their "gina" tingle again. In any westernized country that has no fault divorce it is men by far that get "shafted" when the wife leaves then through the enabling court system get rewarded with cash and prizes and most likely gets to keep the kids and in many cases play the system so the father has a difficult logistical time with access. Also in this day and age via the Internet (the manosphere) men can educate themselves and read about the bad experiences men have encountered in relationships, especially those where they have children which are used as either weapons or bargaining tool by the mother. LadyTuscan touched on the example of women who are generally in their 30's (clock ticking) and the "baby rabbies" sets in and many will then "trap" a man (at least for his resources) by either an "oops pregnancy" or tampering with condoms. These web sites (manosphere) illustrate why men get such a poor deal in long term relationships especially if children are involved. I know this does not sound sympathetic to your difficulties Q, however there is plenty written in the "Manosphere" warning men NOT to involve themselves with single mothers who in many a case (not necessarily all) will bring a world of hurt to a guy no matter the effort he may put in. In our primaeval past women needed men for protection and resourcing to produce children. In modern western societies the Government becomes the "daddy" for many single mothers in terms of monetary resourcing. I'm not suggesting that implies a luxury lifestyle. However I wonder what the feeling would be amongst single mothers if the Government became bankrupt and could not pay? Probably wont happen but anything is possible. I recall a hue and cry when the former Labour Government were going to wind back some benefits to single mothers. How has it got to this state of affairs? Feminist drive for equality for women. Nothing wrong with that and is to be applauded, however elements of feminism that wanted power not just equality is a whole different thing. Technological change which freed women from earlier domestic servitude and allowed them independence. Another laudable change. The contraceptive pill which freed women to explore their sexual boundaries. No fault divorce (great in theory) but the practice (court rulings) not applied equally to both sexes. At least in Australia men do not suffer under the punitive alimony laws that apply in some or most states of the USA. Can't pay and it's the debtors prison for you. No wait USA does not have debtors prisons. The connected world. Internet, various social media and mobile technology as an enabler allow many women as never before to "slut it up" in their youth with the bad boys and then in their 30's go into "wallet seeking" mode when the baby rabbies strike and secure the "Good Man" they had no time for in their younger hotter days to provide for them. Only problem is many of the male demographic have wised up to the fairy tale and are either leaving or not wanting to be on the "plantation". No doubt I will have offended some of the latte and chardonnay sipping ladies and their "white Knight", mangina wannabe saviors, so I can expect a bucket load of invective to be sprayed my way. The take away lines are: Women control access to sex. Men control access to commitment. Q.E.D.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Would I want to have kids? They would cut into my fun and ground me in one place. Bugger that.

  • madotara69

    madotara69

    11 years ago

    Probably looking for love. This aint such a place for that, well not from the writings to these forums. Men are mostly ridiculed in here by angry women that hate men, just a good position to sniper the guys as they pass by. Got to be bi to be attractive, men can't love a woman they just want a fuck, can't write or read, men are all diseased, that sort of crap is writhe to be regularly added to comments, no wonder family type man would walk by in silence. Every now and then some of the angry women pretend they like men, but it only lasts until the flush cools down. Any woman offended, no just angry hey? Glad I'm not a single straight shooting sort of guy. Mado Mado Tara xx he he

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    I agree, you pretty much summed up how I feel about what has happened to our male/female relationships. The sexes are so hating toward each other, it is so deep seeded now. We are all so obsessed with second guessing everyone's motivations and generalising the sexes by what the media portrays that we are missing the real people out there. There are still people whose motivations are pure but unfortunately we are jaded by our experiences and what we are told. I didn't like women who are man haters, still do, but I can feel myself becoming one because of the way I am treated by men, it is turning into a viscous cycle. Who is going to break the trend? I am willing to stick my neck out for someone and give them a shot, are you? It seems the only reason that we tolerate each other is because it is so fucking boring having sex with yourself.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Marten,who doesn't love a long misogynistic rant:-) Q

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Sorry,that was meant to be Arten

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    As I have a slight curve I tend to shoot to the left.

  • MsSuperFoxy

    MsSuperFoxy

    11 years ago

    My only child flew the nest and now it is time for meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! I've done my hard yakka for many many years, solo. BUT alis, they return. I think I know why there is a drought? I read an article in the paper over the weekend, that Aussie men are wanted and loved by those overseas.. Maybe they have left the country?? Foxy

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Quoting 'SuperFoxxxy' My only child flew the nest and now it is time for meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! I've done my hard yakka for many many years, solo. BUT alis, they return. I think I know why there is a drought? I read an article in the paper over the weekend, that Aussie men are wanted and loved by those overseas.. Maybe they have left the country?? Foxy Mail order brides, the ones who do what they are told... until they are brought back here and discover all the wonderful things they are entitled to without having to suck a cock.

  • madotara69

    madotara69

    11 years ago

    Quoting 'Funlover71' As I have a slight curve I tend to shoot to the left. Tara seems to find that more interesting than I do. he he.

  • Lovinit28andKC72

    Lovinit28andKC72

    11 years ago

    I'm a mother of 5 and single. I left my husband when I had 3 small children (1, 3 & 5) only to met a man 5 years later and have another 2. I have been by myself, raising my children for the pass 6 years with no help (financially or anything else) from their fathers. It is what it is, I do what I have to do, my children have never miss out on anything, because I was the kind of person that wouldn't let things defined who I am. ( a single mum with 5 kids) So my eldest son (22) is in his final year of uni (engineering) my second eldest (20)has a full time job, my daughter (17) is in her final year at high school and I still have 2 (12 & 8) in primary school. I've never complained that I get no surport from their fathers. because at the end if the day, I can say I've done it, by myself and I've raised 5 amazing people..... So yes being a single parent is the hardest job there is, but it is also the most rewarding job I've ever done. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    well I was married 20 years tried to have kids for the last 9 of those. Doctors said there was no reason we couldn't we tried all the methods it just wasn't happening.turned out to be a good thing found out she had been seeing another guy for the last 3 of those years what I'm saying is when a guy hits his 40 the family idea has to be trashed because women in the age bracket are just not interested (unless he can find a woman that is younger and wants children but then will they stick around)

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    If you don't mind me asking....how did the fathers of your children not support you financially or otherwise?

  • lovman8

    lovman8

    11 years ago

    Wet women ! I have huge admiration for single mothers most of who do a wonderful job. But in an ideal world I think children are better off with two parents and, at the risk of offending all those same sex parents (again many of whom are great parents), probably one of each gender. I also see among my aquaintances many single men who are looking for women, and seem to me to be reasonable people. May be we just have a distribution problem.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    while I was reading Arten's comment I was reminded of the 'Feminazi stole my ice cream' video, and how some men can't stand to lose even one scoop of ice cream.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    LD,just watched it and couldn't agree more :-) XX Q

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    I agree LD. I initially thought he was just a troll but no he believes what he is saying. Strange how men are never at fault for anything isn't it. It's a brainwashing to only see things one way.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    No I would never voluntarily choose to be a single mother. But then again I have never heard my "clock" ticking either.

  • Lovinit28andKC72

    Lovinit28andKC72

    11 years ago

    Don't mind at all leoman, I don't or have never got maintenance from either father, I couldn't be bothered with trying to get money from them. (I have asked before, for school supplies etc and it was excuse after excuse) At the end of the day they should want to help pay for the upbringing of their children and if they don't then I will do it..... I was the sole provider for my children when I left my husband and again when I separated from the father of my youngest 2. It's just how it is and I'm ok with that.... - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Wow ok....I'm still wrapping my head around the fact that the fathers knew it was their child but still didn't take responsibility....far out. Well all I can say is that you are a rarity...I believe that most women in your circumstance would have pursued the fathers like hell hath no fury like a woman scorned. But in saying that, I really do admire the fact that you didn't drag the kids through the tough stuff mums and dads go though with messy separations, even if it was to your financial burden. Well done. I wish a lot of people would just stop and think what is best for their kids and not themselves when it comes to these matters. Kids are not tools to get back at the spouse. Kids grow up with those memories and yeh to put it nicely, scarred from the whole thing. Thank you for sharing Lovinit28

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Nahhh they're all on here :) - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    I think people that women have to have all the boxes ticked for them buy a man they have to have this have that look this way act this way talk this way and so on. If women can take 4 out of 5 boxes ticked and give that guy a go they mite fine what they are looking for. Don't get me wrong people it's fine to have standards and we all should have them but what I'm trying to say is look and think outside the box - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Will u marry me and make it 11 kids :)) I feel ur pride as a single parent and trust me I truly admire a parent that stands on there own two feet... Sadly it's off putting for a male

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Being a male lol