M50 F46
Wasted Nights and Girly Contradictions
November 08 2009
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RHP User
15 years ago
Andy, I have to vote in favour of the plaintiff here....
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2more4fun
15 years ago
We all have rules and ideals in terms of who we play with but sometimes they can go out the window for various reasons. In your case, I'm guessing that your options at the club were pretty limited so meeting a nice 21 year old that Sal got along with probably meant that age became less of an issue. Back home, I'm sure she has indeed gone back to her preferred age bracket given she's got a lot of hot couples to choose from in that bracket :) Yes, it's contradictory but I don't think we girls are much different to guys: She's hot, I like her, she's 21... Oh nevermind! lolNever say never in this game me thinks :)
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RHP User
15 years ago
Well, this is a very interesting story.I wish she might consider or at least give us girls under that age a chance as I am very attracted to her..... (obviously the female of the couple speaking).I personally try to avoid women in my age bracket as I know they can be immature and not fully respect the rules of playing with couples however, thats not to say that I dont give them a chance to prove otherwise.What is it exactly that deters her from playing with this age group? If someone has a brain and can understand your rules and have an intelligent conversation, what does age matter?Eager to hear your response!E :)
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RHP User
15 years ago
my man is ten years my senior, and im only really into older women. her only being 30 shouldnt be concerned with five or more years
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RHP User
15 years ago
Maybe it was cos the 21 is in N.Z and not here??????????
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RHP User
15 years ago
Firstly, Sal ya is hot on cam and Andy the top of ya head and left ear is pretty good too lol. Yup I saw ya's. Well didnt actually know it was you, until about an hour into it, when I think someone mentioned ya names, but still didnt know if it was u guys they were referring to until a bit later, as I wasnt watching all the time. Anyways, back to ya question. I thought the other girl was a lil older then twenty one myself, she also seemed lovely and fun, no wonder you both liked her. Like everything ya can have an exception to a rule, and perhaps last night may have been one of them. Then again, alcohol, the cam flirting and the encouragement of the viewers can get you caught up in it, so if this one is the case, then thankfully you both have no regrets the morning after, for changing the rules. Only Sal will know, and hopefully will tell you. Most of all ya all looked liked you were having a great night, so not a complete loss. Stay sexy u 2. Will say Hi next time. xx Miss Honey xx
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RHP User
15 years ago
Hi Andy. I really feel for you mate. No seriously. How terrible to have to hang out with that gorgeous lady, Sal. Really. What a chore... lolz. Nah buddy. You know I've got no sympathy for you. hehe. None at all. You lucky mongrel. So she changed her mind. Women do that. There is one thing certain... that is that women are truly unpredictable and inconsistent. Now get back in there tiger and do us all proud. :p Hugs and love and sloppery armpit licks Gaz<<<< wishes he was there for ... err... morale support.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Dont have an answer for your problem or an explanation but..... I think you should be congratulated Andy......... for being such a gentleman and observing agreed rules between you and Sal and realising that Sals interest was most likely fuelled by a bubble or two in excess. You could have dived in (!) and faced the whole symphony the next day. But then sometimes rules can only be examined after they have been broken.....
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RHP User
15 years ago
Welcome back to the forums, he he Sal hasn't spotted this yet, but I"m sure when she does her two cents will be well and truly added. For a start I should say they were both a lovely couple, it was their first night at the club and I guess it would like being in a sweet shop. Plus they have just sent us a friend request so 'hiii' (gulp) if they read this. :Pxxx You know it's a funny thing, there really is a very strong filter that Sal has in place. As we go down this path together we experience things and learn from them. A few months ago Sal would not have allowed me to chat, search for or talk to smokers. Because of the whole 'ashtray' breath thing. But so many smokers have just said 'hey we can not smoke infront of you." so now we can talk to smokers again. Yeah !!! :) High five. I'll let sal answer the age question gym junkies and gaz you can lick our armpits :P . I think though if you can hold a decent conversation, be sexy and respectful to both of us as a couple then that's got to be a bonus, and i know that Sal has become alot more flexable the more comfortable she gets with this life. I don't want to make this in to a huge mountan or upset the couple or Sal, the moral of the story was we have had stand up slappy brawls (she kicks my butt) about who we do and dont play with, and this was a massive U turn. We would have played, we still could play with them. If sal wants to change her mind, then bring it on :) More fun for more of us. Andy
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HotOzCouple_cc
15 years ago
Mate, just go with it. Like any woman, she can chop and change rules to suit, whenever, where ever.Observe, discuss, dismiss - in a flurry of confusion.
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RHP User
15 years ago
maybe it's an insecurity thing? perhaps she's scared you're going to trade her in for a younger more attractive model, therefore to prevent that from happening they're out of bounds for you, but not for her.
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RHP User
15 years ago
the rules in married life are...errrm...assuming you are...Rule Number 1:...the woman is always right!!!...or should that be write...hehe...just my professional way of being a little bit norty...now, where's that ruler...gigglesRule Number 2:...if in doubt, please refer Rule Number 1...There are some other rules...... but these two should keep you in good stead with Sal...Cheers...Jose...>>>...heads off thinking about a nice cool fruit salad..bananas, blueberries, strawberries, mango, peaches...mmmm
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RHP User
15 years ago
One thing I've learnt since starting on this 'path' with my hubby is that the rules are constantly being defined, reviewed, and changed by mutual agreement. An honest relationship where the communication is strong has to be the single most important thing here. We have learnt a lot about each other and ourselves and even when we think we have it all sorted, a new and wonderful experience presents itself and the boundaries are re-defined. I agree with Missbowpeek - you deserve to be congratulated Andy for being a gentleman ;)
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RHP User
15 years ago
Rules change, you can never set down one set of rules and expect them to stay the same for years...After 18 years on the scene, we still find new rules sometimes.The lifestyle is about communication and constantly talking to your partner about instances that happen to appear.If that sort of thing happens, just simply ask your partner if you can have a quiet word, and then talk about the change in rules.Who nows it might be a new rule that makes a night of pure indulgence and fun frolics for all.So remember talk , talk and talk again.Rules do change and so do circumstances while playing, and remember it is all about you 2 as a couple and no one else.If at any stage either one feels uncomfy, the play should stop.Just my opinion.Leesa
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RHP User
15 years ago
Rule Books and Manuals were designed to keep the cogs of machinery and society in motion. But who wants to read a mountain of fine print... that is so fine... because there's so much in such a small space you need an electron microscope to see it...and is so boring... written by a legal eagle who ties things up to within an inch of its life, whilst making the whole thing incomprehensible. Now manuals are another thing... Ikea only provides instructive illustrations, whilst others are written by people who are obviously using a sanskrit to english dictionary to translate the indecipherable into the unfathomable. As they say, "When in doubt read the book of words". If only life was that easy... If only women were that easy. I'm all for easy women...
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RHP User
15 years ago
By listening to what the others have said you cant go wrong.Whilst i was with my hubby we had an open relationshipwe did the same thing as the others have mentioned but there was only one condition that was in place,which was that i didntswollow,id thought it a strange request..But when he explaned his reason( after me giving him a bj, id not had long given birth) which was a logical one. xoxox
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RHP User
15 years ago
We were begining to worry
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coastcpl
15 years ago
Andy.....you dissappoint me.....you need to cut a first timer a bit of slack...especially such a young one...who obviously didn't even realise you were in the equation.......and as you and your partner have played this game for awhile....I would of thought you could of spoken to your partner at the time about what was going on.......you seem to think the situation should've been all about you........shame on you....:-)
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RHP User
15 years ago
Gym Junkies After seeing some of your hot pics I find it hard to believe you guys have trouble finding partners to meet.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Just remember what we spoke of......Go out and have fun on your nights and dont expect anything, and they are usually the nights that most people have fun. You go with expectations and you undoubtly will be dissapointed. Sometimes the best nights are the ones you dont plan on. Communicate.....and talk all night long....i can emphasise that enough. And yes, give the newbies some slack..lol as coast said. They are still learning their own boundaries.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Shame you did not go to the club in Christchurch called "SE" it was the greatest swingers club we've ever been to, in fact it made us want to move to NZ (well even more then we already do)
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RHP User
15 years ago
I wasnt saying we have probs meeting people just curious to know why Sal doesnt like to play with women under 25.And thankyou :) pictures are for everyone to enjoy!
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RHP User
15 years ago
Wow guys, I pitch a story in the forums come back and look what I started :P - For a start I did actually have a great night with Sa, and yes I was being selfish but the night was certainly not wasted. That's my thing on here. I'm all the 'bad' guy then Sal gets on here and she's all 'clever and witty and everyone agrees with her thinks she's great and I am the baddy who gets foiled again.' She has yet to check the forums, because RHP automatically shows the new travel function to Bali we don't get the updates on whose written what where on the feeds. So she's not seen that Gaz or Sophie or CI have written on our newsfeed. I might let her know tonight, as I'm sure you would all love to here the bollocking i'm about to get for even posting this topic :P Love you honey bunny. xxx Okay so going from bottom to top cause there are so many of you lot to respond too. Oh it's nice to be missed. FOr a start when I saw that C.I had responded I was a little flushed because I don’t want to come across as ungrateful for the wonderful treatment we get there. For the record the management at C.I are amazingly friendly and Sal and I really do feel so comfortable there. If anyone is ever in Brisbane you HAVE to come and visit. Infact I insist that you check it out and have a drink with us. Okay that's done our new friends were/are a lovely couple. Sal had a great time with Ms and me and MR had a nice chat about life, girls and boat. No nobbing was done there and then but I've made up for it since. (not by myself.. ok a few times) Newbies are allowed their freedom to make their choices and I respect that... god i'm being all humble now... this is going against my natural bad tempered persona so i'm not use to this. Yes C.I you know my new motto is no expectations no disappointments. That's my swinging rule, number ONE. Because the nights in the past we didn't expect anything were a huge blast. Coastcple but it is all about me. I'm the protagonist in this story, it's my tale to tell. I'm the anti hero in the events. I could do it third person but then I'll start talking about myself in the third person and that's a whole Seinfeld episode I don't want to get into :P Yes okay... in all seriousness I do see your point, and I will take the three strikes of the paddle for my punishment please. Kileetrev. It's good to be back, I love this place. Hope they have a RHP party so we can all meet in person...and then shag. Customer 69 were would I be without Sal? I don't know but yes, she does deal very well with my and I quote 'Constant, rampant hornyness." Hotoz i loved what you wrote - that's rule number two Observe, discuss, dismiss - in a flurry of confusion. Is anyone writing these down. "? Comeandgetme, Mangos are back in season, but they do get in your teeth. Rule number three after the mango sides have been hedgehogged and removed the person prepping the dessert gets to eat the flesh the is left around the middle bit... just bring floss!!! Casave as for insecurity, on Sal's part I know it's not the case, we have had experiences in the past, witnessed normally confident young ladies turn to jelly after a night toe dipping into the swinging world. I personally think that something’s you need a little bit of life experience to handle what it is we do. Sometimes you need to travel that long road of brutal honestly of life. You need to be slightly desensitized to what it is you're involved in. And although this sounds negative and we all have our own journeys here (some I’m sure very positive), my life before Sal was full of cheating, lying adultery falling out of love, boredom, head buried in sand, death of loved ones, disappointment of others, loss of friendships etc. All those moments that get you from 'straight life' to this life. I love that I have this life now, it's taken the guilt out of it all and means I don't ever have to go back to being that man and have a great, sexy partner in crime to help me break some more taboos. (that’s a Peep Show reference) Young newbies swingers are here, and it amazes me that they can handle it. I hope this makes sense, you don't have to be kicked in the guts all your life to have to be a swinger... not sure what I'm trying to say but I hope you guys get that bit. I’ve been in rooms with people bonking left right and centre, not very attractive people that’s why I wasn’t involved BUT the point is this. I didn’t bat an eyelid, so I must be a little desensitized. Sal has a healthy perspective on life and would not for a second think that I would run off with a 21 year old. For a start most 21 year olds must think I’m like the old dude from Family Guy who makes that strange noise when he sees young boys. Nicedayforit. I do like rule number four 'rules are constantly being defined, reviewed, and changed by mutual agreement" Perhaps I should make this into an article for RHP - FYI has anyone googled RHP lately interesting article about the ACCC about it. Personally I think RHP do an excellent job. Okay so I told Sal about the post and I said 'It's written in good humour hon' and she said "Apart from that bit and that bit," Oppps I'm for it now... help me OB1 you're my only help. :) Love to you all, and honestly if newbies or straight people were reading all this, imagine what a great insight they would have on our world. This is Andy living the swingers life so all the straight people don't have too. Signing off. P.S Gymjunkies I would give you a chance ...
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RHP User
15 years ago
Andys last post totally killed the thread!!!!! Hehe. I will say to Gym_Junkies though....I am guessing that for the sake of a funny forum post he has neglected to mention that since having a more positive experience with someone younger I am alot more relaxed about age and willing to give someone a chance before writing them off based on age. I do think I prefer the younger women to be a part of a couple rather than single, but that is not about insecurity, more to do with being able to click with the person. xx Sal
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RHP User
15 years ago
You guys rock! you always have a good time, and are friendly and courteous to all our patrons.You are what all new swingers to the lifestyle should focus on. friendly, not taking anything for granted, and just simply having a good time when you attend.We have had many cool conversations about the lifestyle and i hope that i have helped you guys through the phases that go on when we encounter such a wonderful lifestyle change.Keep on keeping on you 2 . you rock! and know how to treat other friendly patrons and swingers.Buy the way, Sal, you always look so hot when you attend the club....i had to say that.Leesa
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RHP User
15 years ago
Thanks for the lovely words Leesa, what a pleasant surprise it was to see your post! We love coming to CI, to socialise,play or even spend time somewhere a little bit sexy. You and everyone at CI are fantastic everytime we attend. We always feel so comfortable and have enjoyed our chats and thank you for your support and advice when we have asked for it. xx Salina
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