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What is the difference ?

December 30 2014

I’d love to hear all your thoughts on this subject I have a profile on a standard relationship dating website. I use the same photo I am using here. I have a similar open and funny profile that has been edited and approved by friends. However on that website I have received not one single date – and despite sending out about 60 kisses I have been resoundingly rejected by every man I have approached. However here my profile gets a good smashing regularly, I have met some lovely chaps and had some really positive feedback. So it seems men don’t want to have a coffee find out more about me with a view to dating me – but men will have coffee with me to fuck me. Is there something wrong with this scenario ? Is there something wrong with men or is there something wrong with me ?

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  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Yes, that's exactly my experience, too. LOTS of rejection on regular sites, virtually 100% to be honest. There are some differences in my profiles - here the pics are a bit more risque, there I have face pics. But the wording is not too different. Despite making it pretty clear that I'm not on RHP for sex I still get a lot more messages here than anywhere else, and while I don't meet often I have had the change to talk with and occasionally meet some great guys from here. I've decided it must be my face that turns them off on the regular sites. Que sera sera.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    They don't want to put their hearts on the line and risk getting hurt again, much easier to focus on sex and leave the emotion out of it and they think that nobody gets hurt.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    I find on the vanilla sights that I am attractive to overseas men who are drowning in intense love for me in their first message. And in the second are having a short term cash flow problem lol oh lucky me! :D - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Funny I thought exactly the same thing !! I bet it is not your face - although I can't see it the rest of you looks amazing !! Have you had any nice dates though ? You know dates where someone wants to know about you and wants to spend time getting to know you ? Im curious ?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Well I admit to being a bit of a fraidy cat myself and find that sex is nice way to connect without the emotion. I can't judge anyone on that. But I also live in hope that I can connect in a more meaningful way and find someone who wants to spend real time with me - doing other things than having sex.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    This is to both Fun and Burning I've read both your profiles and to be honest they are both great. However both are quite unusual as you do go into a lot of detail. You've thought about what you want to say whereas the majority of women don't really need to say much at all. Especially on a sex site like RHP. So firstly, no it's not you.... But I'm wondering if it's a numbers thing. On sex sites there are generally 10 men to every woman then add into that couples looking for women and every woman cranks up some great stats..... Whilst I really don't know about traditional dating sites I'm tipping that the numbers are much more even. So on the face of it I'm thinking that it's just a statistical anomaly.... You both sound like amazing women and apart from what I've said I am surprised that men are not tripping over themselves to meet you..... Best of luck M

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    I had my face up on both the vanilla sites and here, so I don't think that's the reason. In my personal experience a lot of men are looking for sex on both sites, whereas many women seem more focused on something long term on the vanilla sites. I figure the men I'm speaking of run at the first hint of a woman looking for commitment, and likely think the women here are on this site for NSA fun and therefore easier to get into bed for a one night stand. I've had messages on both sites from men who (going by the content of their messages) seem to be looking for free prostitutes.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    At one time I changed the "Looking for" part from "Short/Long term dating" to "Casual dating" and suddenly got a lot more response.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    When I recently re-did my profile,I kid you not,the first three men who contacted me I had already met on another vanilla site...Ground Hog Day indeed xxFreya

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Nobody is perfect, and thus the blame game is best avoided Yes there is something very wrong with the scenario. Me being a man its even worse as I have to be coloured with the same brush, though I like to think I am somewhat different. There may be some Friady cats but I don't think that is it. Given a chance most guys will opt for a relationship, our hearts are not that fragile. But what men think is a perfect relationship does not seem to involve friendship. The twisted reality for many men is that the perfect girl is both their mother and someone to fuck in between hanging out with their mates. The thought of friendship and actually wanting to spend time with a partner does not seem to cross their mind. There is also the total lack of emotional and psychological understanding of women, and people in general. Many don't even try to learn. To them if they have manged to get their pecker wet and a packed lunch they know enough about women to get by. If things do not go the way they want, they will use the tried and test dummy spit that they learnt was the best way to get what they wanted when they where babies. This is of course a generalization, that I wish I could say was in the minority. But even so there are many men that actually relate to women and enjoy their friendship. Men that do not think that just because a woman is talking to them the are going to get some. So not all is lost. There is nothing wrong with your assessment, it sounds like it is born from frustration. It is a reasonable expectation to be able to meet someone for more than assessing the probability of a root. You should not blame your self, that is a dead end road, nor am i going to guess what you are looking for when you meet these men. I go by the rule that to meet people that you really enjoy the company of you have to sort the wheat from the chafe and that will involve some unpleasant work, but the rewards are worth the effort. Keep at it. Mandatory disclaimer.This is only my personal view, at times Its hard to know if I am lost in my own world. So to any that feel I have taken a swipe at your manhood, relax i am sure you are one of the good ones and need not take it personally.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    I dont think theres anything wrong with the scenario. You are after all on not on a regular dating site and who knows...a good fuck may lead to a good date? Stranger things have happened. But only if the coffee is good first. lol. It may not too. I cant speak for males in general, but from my own perspective - regular sites and dating the element for a relationship is obviously greater. I dont really want this, so no point meeting for coffee if the expectations are on way different levels. Here, though id be more inclined to think both parties are meeting with a similar mind frame on what they want and/or need.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Quoting 'Meander' seem to be looking for free prostitutes. If women viewed sex as it is, then that could be stated the other way around. Sex is sex - its fun..why do some women feel as though they are (ironically free) prostitutes if they have fun NSA sex? Or if men are seeking sex they are some how after a prostitute? Too many labels... This female loves sex and it could be said that I use younger guys to have fun with, or it could be argued the other way...rather than do that, I get and enjoy my fun as does my FB's.

  • Lovinit28andKC72

    Lovinit28andKC72

    10 years ago

    I just knew there was a reason I'm not on any vanilla sites.....💋

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Just my own thoughts here lady's. Maybe the genuine guys on both sites are noticing the same pictures ? Maybe there reading between the lines if both sites and think it's a better option to try the naughty one first? I think it's wrong to assume all man are after sex only. Maybe they want to test the waters if an open minded girl first and go from there... Not all man are pigs just wanting to eat it all and leave... For me it's like buying a car if it's secondhand car I'd like to feel the faults (if any) and decide weather I'd put fuel into it, polish it and love it like it was new on... Also add many females judge the same manner you lady's have said about us males... Just my own thoughts is all... Love and happiness to you all with a small twist of naughty

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Quoting 'simple_desires' This female loves sex and it could be said that I use younger guys to have fun with, or it could be argued the other way...rather than do that, I get and enjoy my fun as does my FB's. So men that send you messages saying "my wife is out on Tuesday between 10 - 3, if you are interested in sex" Or I am in town on Wednesday night and have a nice hotel room if you are interested in sex. don't bother you and you would probably go if you felt like a bit? To me those guys are desperate and would bonk a hole in the ground. They don't care what the woman looks like, they don't care if there is any sexual attraction at all. You are just a hole. And yep, I am sure a lot of married women are happy with that as they are only after a sex and that is fine. But, seriously as a single woman I find those sorts of blokes, the ones that make it clear they don't really care what you even look like, they are really just ordinary and boring. So I do suggest that they may best be served by engaging a sex worker. At least that way they are guaranteed a root...... because the women, that is me, is totally irrelevant to the process except that I happen to be a warm hole. I see nothing wrong with guys going to a sex worker anyway. I suppose I also have this sneaky suspicion that they are too cheap to actually fork out the money.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Well put. I also don't have any judgment about a man paying a prostitute for sex. I've had plenty of messages - as I'm sure we all have - from men who want the randomness of sex with anyone who's available, regardless of looks, status etc, but who don't want to pay for the service. Seems a lot like treating women as sex workers to me, when that's clearly not the 'service' the woman's offering. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Well put. I also don't have any judgment about a man paying a prostitute for sex. I've had plenty of messages - as I'm sure we all have - from men who want the randomness of sex with anyone who's available, regardless of looks, status etc, but who don't want to pay for the service. Seems a lot like treating women as sex workers to me, when that's clearly not the 'service' the woman's offering. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Well men looking for LT relationships on vanilla sites are probably looking for women that are still at the age of having children and family perhaps? Subconsciously even? I remember a woman that lived in the country had a similar complaint and started a thread about it. I found it interesting. A bloke would travel 2-3 hours to meet with her when they met through RHP and he thought there would be a root involved, but the same bloke wouldn't travel 2-3 hours to meet someone from a vanilla site. So what is the moral of the story there? A few years ago I went to a few speed dating events and there were quite a few blokes in their 40's who were basically looking for another wife to look after them and their kids. I even had one ask if I cook! Ummm no dude, I don't do cooking.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Hi FunFlamer, Was having this discussion with another single mate only two days back. As unfortunate as it is with your situation as such, it never the less clarifies my wonderment as to whether it was just me but more so from the male perspective. This was something encountered also via "those other sites", as far as thinking firstly one had an obligation both to the self and to prospective profile viewers to simply be open and honest with what one is about and their expectations. After months going by and after having only met one person just to engage with as a great conversationalist (and now dear and valued friend) it seems that no-one else wanted to even say hello. My thoughts were maybe that as women, they were very wary of my words in thinking that they were probably deceiving and so with that mistrust decided not contact or reply. A fact that I figure could be justified in more so thinking (and excuse my nativity if you as women consider it so) that maybe it was about safety for women. Not that I consider males to be the stronger sex, just more prevalent to aggression and violence. However with you valid concerns FunFlamer it is now felt that regardless of the gender fence it could just be that people are sceptical in accepting that the likes of you and I can in fact be so "balls out" with ourselves and what we are looking for, for that particular stage in life. Shame. Big shame I reckon and not necessarily just for the likes of you and I but more so for Society in that we are unwilling to trust that others can be so open. So I tend to think it it isn't you dear person.....just them....sadly.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Yes, what Meeka said is how I meant my "free prostitutes" comment.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    But what about sock washing😉I have had those messages too,subtext "have I reached the inbox of Volunteer Hookers R Us" xx Freya

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Quoting 'Meeka100' Quoting 'simple_desires' This female loves sex and it could be said that I use younger guys to have fun with, or it could be argued the other way...rather than do that, I get and enjoy my fun as does my FB's. So men that send you messages saying "my wife is out on Tuesday between 10 - 3, if you are interested in sex" Or I am in town on Wednesday night and have a nice hotel room if you are interested in sex. don't bother you and you would probably go if you felt like a bit? To me those guys are desperate and would bonk a hole in the ground. They don't care what the woman looks like, they don't care if there is any sexual attraction at all. You are just a hole. And yep, I am sure a lot of married women are happy with that as they are only after a sex and that is fine. But, seriously as a single woman I find those sorts of blokes, the ones that make it clear they don't really care what you even look like, they are really just ordinary and boring. So I do suggest that they may best be served by engaging a sex worker. At least that way they are guaranteed a root...... because the women, that is me, is totally irrelevant to the process except that I happen to be a warm hole. I see nothing wrong with guys going to a sex worker anyway. I suppose I also have this sneaky suspicion that they are too cheap to actually fork out the money.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Quoting 'Meander' Yes, what Meeka said is how I meant my "free prostitutes" comment. Sorry, I didn't understand - I just ignore the pigs. To me that's not about sex, that's about privileged misogynist males.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Quoting 'simple_desires' Quoting 'Meander' seem to be looking for free prostitutes. If women viewed sex as it is, then that could be stated the other way around. Sex is sex - its fun..why do some women feel as though they are (ironically free) prostitutes if they have fun NSA sex? Or if men are seeking sex they are some how after a prostitute? Too many labels... This female loves sex and it could be said that I use younger guys to have fun with, or it could be argued the other way...rather than do that, I get and enjoy my fun as does my FB's. Simple Desires.. Im with you. Why come to a swingers site and start putting up barriers ? Its merely stating the obvious saying men like sex ? As long as a woman is in control of who she chooses to bed its nobody elses business but her's and the person she's with. Saying a woman becomes a free prostitute is silly. Every hour of every day there are women out there having sex without gratitude. Its called nature having its way.. I never thought of any of the women I've had the pleasure of as a free prostitute. Its always been consensual and fun. Just a man and a woman doing what we have since Adam was a boy ?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Quoting 'simple_desires' Quoting 'Meander' seem to be looking for free prostitutes. If women viewed sex as it is, then that could be stated the other way around. Sex is sex - its fun..why do some women feel as though they are (ironically free) prostitutes if they have fun NSA sex? Or if men are seeking sex they are some how after a prostitute? Too many labels... This female loves sex and it could be said that I use younger guys to have fun with, or it could be argued the other way...rather than do that, I get and enjoy my fun as does my FB's. you have a partner so whether you get sex outside of that is a bonus. When you are relying on guys for a sex life and something personal then all you get is shit boring selfish sex all the time, then it gets really old really quickly. You still have a partner to go home to for all the emotional stuff. I love sex too, I can have sex for sex sakes, that is why I am here but I want some standards. For the crap sex I put with on here, I should be charging for it because I am not getting anything out of it. It is about the treatment when you get sex, not the fact you are having sex. I think a lot of women in couples do get treated better by the men they see because they don't want to piss of a husband and he has a bit of competition to live up to. When it comes to us single girls we are just there so they can get their end away. I could count on one hand how many good lovers I have had.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    most vanilla guys are just too much of a pussy to seek it(sex), whereas here the central theme is sex and they then think it's easy pickings..... The two dynamics are polar opposites - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Saying a woman becomes a free prostitute is indeed silly, and it's not what I said. I think most women will want a guy that is completely attracted to them and is keen to give as well as take, not someone who is just looking for a pussy to scratch his itch. Big difference.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Except, the same guys are on both types of sites ;) They just tend to behave differently and treat women differently depending on the site (even when it's also the same women on both sites).

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Then explain to me why in the last two years I've come across several dozen men with profiles on both vanilla and adult dating sites, including several forumites. Maybe they can even tell us themselves?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Snap, B_L! ;-)

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    I'm on both kids of site's (dunno why), profile and pictures are pretty similar, I have never met anyone from the other site's (rarely even chat to anyone), I wonder what turns women off about my other profile, or is it just the guy to women ratio, not sure! And I dont expect a fuk for a coffee hahah, and am definitely looking for something more long term but with the right person! Luckily i have talked to met quiet a few fantastic women from rhp! Sure some for sex (because its great), and some just as friends!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Same actually hahahha,

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Do you contact women on the other sites and then they reject you, or are you waiting for them to contact you? I'm curious just because I think a lot of women wait for men to contact them. Also, I did find it interesting when a male friend recently said that women on regular dating sites are looking for a sugar daddy or arm candy, and the average joe doesn't get a look in (not that I'd call you an average joe). Has that been your experience?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Hi again FunFlamer, Would appreciate your thoughts regarding my post and as to when it comes to putting yourself out there and also feeling frustrated that no one replies, whether they don't put credit to your words or are willing to be accepting of your truths. This does seem to be the main concern from your question after all. Thanks.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    But I find I get rejected on the vanilla sites cos I'm probably too sexual lmfao...the women obviously see me as a bit of a player lmfao - if only they knew lol - but I'm just honest....everything is hinged around sex whether those on vanilla sites want to admit it or not.... But that's the dynamic of those sites....they're centred and geared around some marketing strategy that promotes love more than lust...."meet your perfect match here" kind of crap... So shy types seem to be more attracted to those dynamics as they can divert their awkwardness ...from my observations....as when meeting from these sites it's all about the "white picket fence" outcome without any thought - or so it seems - to discussing the "awkward" for those sites which is sexual compatibility. RHP, AMM and similar, are geared and centred around sex and therefore eliminates any awkwardness surrounding broaching such topics compared to RSVP and the like. The marketing strategy being "hookup today with like minded, sexy studs and studettes now!!!!" We all know that by meeting someone here is about testing the waters for chemistry and enjoying sex, and THEN if things go well possibly broach the topic that is now the "awkward" a "relationship." Once again these are just my observations and could be way off compared to other people's analysis.... - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    I wouldn't have the time or inclination to go any where but here.. There is a very active work and social side of me that takes up most of my time..

  • madotara69

    madotara69

    10 years ago

    Damn proud of you too sir stir, how the fck you managed to either be nice or flirt, whatever. You got ed too show you her tits, with the feisty cummon she gave you, I'd say you are definitely man slut of 2014 Happy new year stir Mado Tara xx

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    *hint hint nudge nudge* mods 😍 - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Quoting 'Blindman67' Nobody is perfect, and thus the blame game is best avoided Yes there is something very wrong with the scenario. Me being a man its even worse as I have to be coloured with the same brush, though I like to think I am somewhat different. There may be some Friady cats but I don't think that is it. Given a chance most guys will opt for a relationship, our hearts are not that fragile. But what men think is a perfect relationship does not seem to involve friendship. The twisted reality for many men is that the perfect girl is both their mother and someone to fuck in between hanging out with their mates. The thought of friendship and actually wanting to spend time with a partner does not seem to cross their mind. There is also the total lack of emotional and psychological understanding of women, and people in general. Many don't even try to learn. To them if they have manged to get their pecker wet and a packed lunch they know enough about women to get by. If things do not go the way they want, they will use the tried and test dummy spit that they learnt was the best way to get what they wanted when they where babies. This is of course a generalization, that I wish I could say was in the minority. But even so there are many men that actually relate to women and enjoy their friendship. Men that do not think that just because a woman is talking to them the are going to get some. So not all is lost. There is nothing wrong with your assessment, it sounds like it is born from frustration. It is a reasonable expectation to be able to meet someone for more than assessing the probability of a root. You should not blame your self, that is a dead end road, nor am i going to guess what you are looking for when you meet these men. I go by the rule that to meet people that you really enjoy the company of you have to sort the wheat from the chafe and that will involve some unpleasant work, but the rewards are worth the effort. Keep at it. Mandatory disclaimer.This is only my personal view, at times Its hard to know if I am lost in my own world. So to any that feel I have taken a swipe at your manhood, relax i am sure you are one of the good ones and need not take it personally. ......your description....... "the perfect girl is both their mother and someone to fuck in between hanging out with their mates. The thought of friendship and actually wanting to spend time with a partner does not seem to cross their mind" is, unfortunately for us sincere and genuine ladies, spot on.Thanks for your posts. Always enjoy reading them.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Quoting 'Burning_Love' Except, the same guys are on both types of sites ;) They just tend to behave differently and treat women differently depending on the site (even when it's also the same women on both sites)...........ain't that the truth! Pity there's so many two-faced males out there.Maybe some women do the same thing although I hope not.Any comments from men in regard to that??

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    I just saw another one for you. Elite singles. ^_^

  • TallBaldSexy

    TallBaldSexy

    10 years ago

    can I have your mobile number?...oh we can do coffee too?

  • TallBaldSexy

    TallBaldSexy

    10 years ago

    Quoting 'Meeka100' Quoting 'simple_desires' This female loves sex and it could be said that I use younger guys to have fun with, or it could be argued the other way...rather than do that, I get and enjoy my fun as does my FB's. So men that send you messages saying "my wife is out on Tuesday between 10 - 3, if you are interested in sex" Or I am in town on Wednesday night and have a nice hotel room if you are interested in sex. don't bother you and you would probably go if you felt like a bit? To me those guys are desperate and would bonk a hole in the ground. They don't care what the woman looks like, they don't care if there is any sexual attraction at all. You are just a hole. And yep, I am sure a lot of married women are happy with that as they are only after a sex and that is fine. But, seriously as a single woman I find those sorts of blokes, the ones that make it clear they don't really care what you even look like, they are really just ordinary and boring. So I do suggest that they may best be served by engaging a sex worker. At least that way they are guaranteed a root...... because the women, that is me, is totally irrelevant to the process except that I happen to be a warm hole. I see nothing wrong with guys going to a sex worker anyway. I suppose I also have this sneaky suspicion that they are too cheap to actually fork out the money. I agree 100%. That is exactly what the married guy who is bored shitless at home should do for their short term fix...naturally its not a long term fix in anyones imagination....or it shouldn't be....but then again should it?...you are right some guys just want to take any old wild fuck when they can get it....oh yep guys smash me up but tell me honestly do you have any mates like ive just described or has been above post??.. Now the flip side... However ladies please take a moment (OP excluded shes new) to consider how absolutely BORING it gets listening to some women tar every single man with the same brush....not all of us are cunts. SA

  • 6exxy

    6exxy

    10 years ago

    Not all guys are looking just for sex. Some are looking for more. To share more, to give more. We also need to recieve more. I would suggest that you look and make contact with those profiles that you like. That are looking for what you are looking for. Do a search! You can make the approach in our liberated world 😀 That way you can avoid the sex seekers that pay to message for sex. It is interesting though how that is what is promoted.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    lol awesome I'll have to give it a whirl 😉 - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    This has been an interesting read with a lot of really interesting points and insight into this ghastly dating thing. I agreed with Simple_Desires' point that to use the phrase 'free prostitutes' as something (many) men on here are looking for overlooks the basic premise that women might actually enjoy sex and be here for sex because sex is good. . It led me to wonder whether the women who feel like the men are trying their luck at free sex are also of the opinion that it iss something they should withhold until the man somehow proves he is not 'just' after free sex. Which is akin to making them pay in a slightly more different way anyway, isn't it? . But then Ralf and Meeks put some perspective onto how bad RHP sex propositions can apparently be. Not only are you expected to squeeze your root to suit someone's diary / trip / tv-preferences, but even when you do it sounds like the menu here is often serving up disappointing sex to boot. . As for the OP's question - why the difference in attention between 'vanilla' and 'chocolate with cream and roasted nuts' sites - it's hard not to be age-offensive, but maybe there is a 'upper' age for people looking for a vanilla 'long-term' relationship. Time's kinda ticking pretty loudly at 46 (I assume, I'll know soon enough), if we're talking about starting a family, we're looking at the end of the bell curve - sure you can have kids but how many want to 'settle down' in their late 40's when everyone else is starting that age is starting to be unencumbered by kids at that age. That might also explain why Meander (?) had more interest when she switched her preference to 'Casual Dating'. Perhaps men see RHP as 'casual dating' with the potential to become a relationship whereas vanilla sites are viewed as more likely to be a place where a longer term relationship is the target. What are your own expectations from the two sites? Are you expecting the same thing from both?

  • Mischeviouslad

    Mischeviouslad

    10 years ago

    My reply.... is gone...?!!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    I was not saying anything about either the women or this site, nor prostitutes. It was about some men expecting to get their dick wet for no money and effort.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    This comment mystifies me. So if a man wants NSA he should use a prostitute ? What does that make all the women on here looking for NSA ? Free prostitutes ? Bullshit ! Ever been with a prostitute ? Grrrrrrrrrrr !

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    I'm 55 and have a 10 and 13 year old and wouldn't have wanted it any other way. 😜

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Many of the vanilla sites I have been to have a collection of "Commission Ladies"who are all over men when they first join, suggesting all manner of attractive possibilities once you pay to join, but then fade into the limelight once you pay up and can send/read messages and are interested in following up on them. Often with extensive searching you will find the same pics/profile info under multiple usernames as they swap names every three or four weeks. Haven't had a single similar situation from RHP. Some of the vanilla sites charge guys at suckers rates, offer free membership to women, and then offer commisions to women if they can sucker guys into paying up to read/reply to the messages. RHP apparently does not differentiate fees for men or women, and allows all members to reply to messages received for free, regardless of membership level. This means that the "Commision Ladies" don't get to take over the site as they have to pay to send their initial messages and their victims can read the message and reply for free, so the monetary value is not there. Many of the vanilla sites with more extensive international affiliation tend to have a large concentration of O/S fakes out to scam in a number of ways, either as begging letters or wanting people to 'sponsor' them as immigrants. Haven't come accross any of these at RHP. Many of the vanilla sites are operated under a large umbrella company with up to 10 or more affiliated sites operated by the business. They tend to share their membership and profiles with each site in the group over about six months or so, often with the same "Commission Ladies" that tried to entice you at the first site trying to entice you onto another site with the same series of usernames, pics, and profiles. Even if you have deleted all profile content, pics etc and had your profile removed from the first site, you will suddenly be granted membership of another site in the group a few months later and receive constant junk mail from that site. Remove all content from your profile there, close that profile and a couple of weeks later another one is spamming you. Another trick is that as you try to leave, they say they will send you a code to confirm that you want out, and you should paste the code into the appropriate area of their site. That's a smart trick that works in one of two ways, either they don't send the code, or if they send the code, there isn't a place to paste it on their site, so they continue to try and rip you off or spam you. First of these groups I encountered had about 10 networks in play and it took about 2.5 years to apparently get off their books. Nowadays, I will only use disposable email addresses and post office Visa Cards to subscribe to any site, that way I can unsubscribe my way, the email ad expires if I don't go to it for 3 weeks, and by keeping a $5 balance on the the card and topping up monthly/quarterly, I can resign by not topping up and they cannot continue to extort funds. Unfortunately a similar number of blank profiles or totally "Ask Me" type profiles on vanilla sites and RHP, and a lot with very old pics (some date stamped 2004), indicating that the person was last online "More than a month ago", a neat way of saying they left years ago. Often these people will show an age of say 28, and have a line in their" About me" saying they a a 21 year old woman. Why do dating sites like to pad their numbers with people who might have been there for a day or a week some years ago but never came back after the first few visits? Generally I find the ladies here much more open to expressing their interests and desires, with only a few seeking soulmates or Mr Right. Because I am honest (if unsuccessful) in explaining my personal situation, I avoid such people because I know that I could not give them the long term security they seek.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Quoting 'captainstarbuck' Free Prostitutes !!!! Hahaha , That is a very funny interesting and strange adaptation .! Quoting 'captainstarbuck' I was refering to the opening post by the Lady FunFlamer Since I made the "free prostitutes" comment on the first page, I thought you were referring to that, as others had. My apologies.

  • madotara69

    madotara69

    10 years ago

    A lot of what you said, backs up a fluffy fuzzy thing we, amongst a few of us had going over new years with a direct line to the mods in another thread/ topic. That was an interesting post. Happy new year. Mado Tara xx

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Thank you all of you for your comments !!! You all have helped me sort that out in my head I do so enjoy these forums and I am very grateful for them and the fabulous folk (yep you) that take the time to participate. It is a wonderful way to help me sort out my concerns and thoughts and to get to know you all better. It is no matter that we don't all agree - I prefer we don't - but I love to see that there are so many thoughtful, clever, funny and hilariously controversial people here - I like you all a great deal and want to meet you one day in one huge orgy of talk, laughter, fighting and of course sex ! Tx Nb I have another dilemma to post today so I hope you all help me with this one - it is a doozy !!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Quoting 'Burning_Love' Do you contact women on the other sites and then they reject you, or are you waiting for them to contact you? I'm curious just because I think a lot of women wait for men to contact them. Also, I did find it interesting when a male friend recently said that women on regular dating sites are looking for a sugar daddy or arm candy, and the average joe doesn't get a look in (not that I'd call you an average joe). Has that been your experience? I contact them but less often, and even on rhp i dont send many mails out, for both sites i try to read the profile if i find the appealing and the pictures attractive and if i think i might be what there looking for i will mail.I'm pretty broke so no sugar daddy here hahahha, I do think everyone is a little more down to earth over here :) And also i think that a lot women wait for guys to send the mail first (usually) but i think that might be standard across the board.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Quoting '50zcool' This comment mystifies me. So if a man wants NSA he should use a prostitute ? What does that make all the women on here looking for NSA ? Free prostitutes ? Bullshit ! Ever been with a prostitute ? Grrrrrrrrrrr ! Read all of my and Meeka's posts regarding this again, and properly this time? I think most women only looking for NSA want to be desired (and receive as well as give) too, not just be used as a means to an end. Done explaining it now. Sheesh.

  • madotara69

    madotara69

    10 years ago

    Quoting 'FunFlamer' Thank you all of you for your comments !!! You all have helped me sort that out in my head I do so enjoy these forums and I am very grateful for them and the fabulous folk (yep you) that take the time to participate. It is a wonderful way to help me sort out my concerns and thoughts and to get to know you all better. It is no matter that we don't all agree - I prefer we don't - but I love to see that there are so many thoughtful, clever, funny and hilariously controversial people here - I like you all a great deal and want to meet you one day in one huge orgy of talk, laughter, fighting and of course sex ! Tx Nb I have another dilemma to post today so I hope you all help me with this one - it is a doozy !! Quoting 'Mischeviouslad' My reply.... is gone...?!!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Quoting '50zcool' I'm 55 and have a 10 and 13 year old and wouldn't have wanted it any other way. 😜 That's great, I was of course grossly generalising to assist FunFlamer with her dating site mystery. I'm sure there are plenty of reasons why an older dad is actually a really good thing. ps - just to prove my point, because I don't like to be wrong..... how old is their mum?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Aww I love my Daddy. 😛 By the way, I think you are spot on about the age thing. I def think men looking for LT relationships would be looking for younger women.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Quoting '50zcool' This comment mystifies me. So if a man wants NSA he should use a prostitute ? What does that make all the women on here looking for NSA ? Free prostitutes ? Bullshit ! Ever been with a prostitute ? Grrrrrrrrrrr ! It is about 90% of guys jack rabbiting for 5 minutes, getting their rocks off and leaving as though they just fucked a masturbator, not a person. I don't know why it is so hard to understand?? The issue is about the lack of care, the lack of giving pleasure while they lay back happy to receive, the lack of any foreplay, lack of passion, lack of desire, lack of interest, lack of imagination, lack of intimacy other than a dick going in and out ....I don't suppose you would ever understand it until you have a vagina and experience it. It is more like we are providing a service, not an experience, hence the reference to prostitutes. You aren't required to put in an effort when you are paying for a service. We want good sex, why is it so hard to understand really?? Grrrrrrr!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    there goes my not man hating! That lasted 5 minutes, dammit!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Because NSA means No Satisfaction, at All; or maybe No Sexual Attraction - 50zcool. I think you understand being a bi guy on bi sites. How the guys don't care who you are, what your name is, whether your face looks like a dropped pie. They are just interesting in knowing if you have a dick and a mouth. Now sometimes those sorts of random bonks are good, I guess. Some people really get off on it but lots of women don't. So when a guy messages you on RHp and pretty much expects you will meet him in a hotel room for sex with out even meeting first or seeing any pictures of them, etc etc. well I don't know, I think we can be forgiven for feeling as of SOME blokes think they can order home delivery dial fuck. The experience feels a bit cheap to me. Besides, not sure about other women but I need a bit of flirtation and flirty foreplay, if you like to call it that, because just turning up and bonking a stranger just doesn't get me excited at all. Dry as the Sahara desert really.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    That should say home delivery dial a fuck. And of I want that I will go to a swingers club, I wouldn't waste time meeting some random person on from the internet. I don't want take away.... I want some fine dining. I am with Ralf. I want a a sizzling sexual attraction, I want someone to turn me on so hard I can't say no. I don't want the easy wham bam sex which is OFTEN the norm on hook up sites. pS I am not saying all guys. Yes I know I am on a hookup site. Yes I am aware that most men use this as a hook up site which often means that they are nt interesting in getting to know other people. Yes I know that I won't find what I am looking for here hence why I don't date men from RHP - as most if them would freak out at the description "date". I am just here for the forums. Truly. ⊂(◉‿◉)つ

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Quoting 'Meeka100' That should say home delivery dial a fuck. What sort of pizza are you Meeks? And do you have one of those garlic bread / drinks deals going?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    I am a super supreme with extra Italian sausage. Unfortunately I don't squirt so you will have to be satisfied with a 1.25l bottle of lemonade. :P

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Special customers get a desert. A chocolate starfish tart.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Can you tell the person sitting next to you that I know it should have two S'es. Thanks. :p

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Nah, I'm still stuck further up the page, horrified by your use of "interesting" every time you meant "interested".

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    I'm interested in being interesting 😝 - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    I can't explain why the "other" dating site the OP is using isn't working, because, you know, they're all so effective and reputable. As for sites like RHP, I imagine very few people (of any gender) are looking for a long-term romantic relationship. I don't think anyone should be made to feel shame about that, either.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Quoting 'ralf74' It is about 90% of guys jack rabbiting for 5 minutes, getting their rocks off and leaving as though they just fucked a masturbator, not a person... the lack of giving pleasure while they lay back happy to receive, the lack of any foreplay, lack of passion, lack of desire, lack of interest, lack of imagination, lack of intimacy other than a dick going in and out ....I don't suppose you would ever understand it until you have a vagina and experience it... Your first assumption is that a romantic date with an attentive suitor will lead to good sex. Your second assumption is that you need a vagina to understand the disappointment of bad sex.

  • 6exxy

    6exxy

    10 years ago

    We have gotten off subject because of some personal views that probably should have been left out. A lot of them don't help the poster however it does start in on stereotypes. RALF sorry about your NYR and women in general. Yes I can understand that you feel strongly about something that may have happened to you in the past or someone you know. Can we use those and be more constructive so it doesn't turn into a bashing post? Everyone is entitled to their opioion but can we use our experience to post helpful constructive comments? I have no idea what funflammer looks like but we are all people. I'm happy to meet you for a drink or coffee perhaps to restore some balance that there are guys that also look for more than sex.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    I am still the same. Quickly typing on my iPhone but never really looking back to check the autocorrect. soz!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Maybe men should make an effort with their casual flings instead, I am sure they would get a lot more sex if they did.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Something's never change.Your oh so familiar opinions perfectly mimic those of another.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Seems as if some people feel that you are basing your opinion on one or two incidences but that isn't true I am sure. How many times have you met blokes since you have been on RHP that do the wham bam thing as you describe? Although, you are maybe meeting the wrong blokes. Interestingly I will never forget a very sexy Mrs from a couple saying that she has never had a good sexual experience with men she has met from RHP! But she loves all the online flirtation, and the dressing up and meeting them, etc so that the sex is kind of irrelevant. I just don't understand that at all.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Quoting 'Tiroba' Quoting 'ralf74' It is about 90% of guys jack rabbiting for 5 minutes, getting their rocks off and leaving as though they just fucked a masturbator, not a person... the lack of giving pleasure while they lay back happy to receive, the lack of any foreplay, lack of passion, lack of desire, lack of interest, lack of imagination, lack of intimacy other than a dick going in and out ....I don't suppose you would ever understand it until you have a vagina and experience it... Your first assumption is that a romantic date with an attentive suitor will lead to good sex. Your second assumption is that you need a vagina to understand the disappointment of bad sex. because I have never been on one from any site! And you are assuming that I am assuming good sex will come from that. I will fill you in if that is indeed the case, if I ever get a romantic date. and the second assumption is based on sex after sex after sex after sex after sex after.......not just the odd one. Please feel free to fill us in on how bad women are in bed, I love feedback.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    is so shit!!! I joined up and ffs I don't get replies, or likes.... 😞 Is it me??? 😝😝😝 - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Quoting 'ralf74' Quoting 'Tiroba' Quoting 'ralf74' It is about 90% of guys jack rabbiting for 5 minutes, getting their rocks off and leaving as though they just fucked a masturbator, not a person... the lack of giving pleasure while they lay back happy to receive, the lack of any foreplay, lack of passion, lack of desire, lack of interest, lack of imagination, lack of intimacy other than a dick going in and out ....I don't suppose you would ever understand it until you have a vagina and experience it... Your first assumption is that a romantic date with an attentive suitor will lead to good sex. Your second assumption is that you need a vagina to understand the disappointment of bad sex. because I have never been on one from any site! And you are assuming that I am assuming good sex will come from that. I will fill you in if that is indeed the case, if I ever get a romantic date. and the second assumption is based on sex after sex after sex after sex after sex after.......not just the odd one. Please feel free to fill us in on how bad women are in bed, I love feedback. A "romantic date", for want of a better phrase, in this context is any action and/or gesture that primes (grooms?) you for sex. That is, actions and/or gestures that create a sense of: intimacy, interest in you, desire, passion and/or chemistry. Now, even allowing for the most passionate, caring, well-meaning lovers does not guarantee that they'll deliver what you consider satisfying sex. "How bad women are in bed"? No, thanks. I don't generalise.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Quoting 'sir_stir' is so shit!!! I joined up and ffs I don't get replies, or likes.... 😞 Is it me??? 😝😝😝 - Posted from rhpmobile I don't understand the high expectations people have with regard to dating and hook-up sites. In comparison to other profiles, my profile and messages are pretty decent. But my confidence of attracting any interest is really quite low.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    I would say that people aren't bad in bed as such, most of the time it's about the connection between you. Don't you think?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Sorry, that should say "I wouldn't say that people are bad in bed." Although I selfish lovers are not enjoyable in the sack, nor are silent ninjas, or starfish.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Twas a joke Joyce given the amount of threads posted about that thing here....I care not if a reply is forthcoming...

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Quoting 'sir_stir' Twas a joke Joyce given the amount of threads posted about that thing here....I care not if a reply is forthcoming... Fair enough. But plenty of people do say the sort of thing that you wrote in jest.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Quoting 'ralf74' Quoting '50zcool' This comment mystifies me. So if a man wants NSA he should use a prostitute ? What does that make all the women on here looking for NSA ? Free prostitutes ? Bullshit ! Ever been with a prostitute ? Grrrrrrrrrrr ! It is about 90% of guys jack rabbiting for 5 minutes, getting their rocks off and leaving as though they just fucked a masturbator, not a person. I don't know why it is so hard to understand?? The issue is about the lack of care, the lack of giving pleasure while they lay back happy to receive, the lack of any foreplay, lack of passion, lack of desire, lack of interest, lack of imagination, lack of intimacy other than a dick going in and out ....I don't suppose you would ever understand it until you have a vagina and experience it. It is more like we are providing a service, not an experience, hence the reference to prostitutes. You aren't required to put in an effort when you are paying for a service. We want good sex, why is it so hard to understand really?? Grrrrrrr! Couldn't have said it better myself.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Sharing sex where both parties have spent some time enjoying each other's personalities and you actually care about each other's pleasure....and becomes about both people giving to each other.... Then there is getting sex....where there's just one party that only cares about getting what they want..... Give me the former any day... 😊 - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    there are some like myself who don't want to meet anyone for any long term type of arrangement apart from say a mutual friendship perhaps. I have plenty of very real opportunities in the non cyber world should I feel the need for that but at the moment I just don't and sites like this one work well here.So on here and the other similar sites I basically run away from a profile when I see any mention of a relationship because it would be deceptive of my to pretend otherwise, just hurts people - not nice, couldn't do it. I also tend to choose to approach/be approached by couples for the same reason. Coffees beforehand required of course. I haven't really looked at the other vanilla sites but have had some friends who have very successfully met up with their new partners married kids etc so they do work for some I guess. So to the OP there is nothing wrong with you, its going to require sifting through all the nutcases like us first

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    I just came back and had a re-read of the thread. If your a hater or a victim nothing I can say will change that.If you keep dating jackrabbits but expect different outcomes whose fault is that ?If your NSA means you get used as a cumbucket, make better decisions.When I dated nsa I went all out to give the woman the best time of her life, I considered it my duty, and inevitably those liaisons were more than one night stands but became true fwb "relationships"And by the way it's not just a male thing, plenty of women here will use men for the moment and kick them gobsmacked to the kerb.Learn and move on.