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Why Lie??
July 13 2015
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RHP User
9 years ago
Lies,if they say they don't ,then they are lying ...it depends on the lie and the motivation behind the lie.If the intent is to harm or deceive then of course there is no accepting that kind of lie.xxFreya
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RHP User
9 years ago
People lie, that is just the nature of who we are. There are three types of liesThe ego lie. This is just to inflate the individuals ego, they lie about anything, from the size of the fish they landed on the weekend, to how important there job is. Some people do this compulsively, if you say you have jumped so high they just have to do one better and say they have jumped a foot higher. These lies are harmless and though they do no favours for the individual they dont really hurt others. The protection lie. This is the lie said to protect someones feelings. "Does my arse look big in this?", "NO of course not!" This type of lie is also used to excuse or avoid something. "Do you want to go out on a date?" "No I am doing my hair tonight" Again these lies are mostly harmless and thought if caught out they can hurt someones feelings, the truth is just as equally damaging. The exploitative Lie. This is the worst type of lie, it is a lie or set of lies to exploit for personal gain other people. It is the lie a cheater uses, it is the lie a thief uses. They can range from small and almost insignificant to very damaging. People who lie like this are dangerous in my book and are to be avoided. They will not change and will use lies to cover lies. They are very aware of their lies and spend a lot of time constructing their lies. We all lie, anyone that tells me that they never lie is not fooling me, anyone who says that is lying. You can not go through life without the need to lie. We even lie to our selves. Lies are not just human, dog, chimps, dolphins and many other mammals have been observed using lies, and almost always they are exploitative lies. It is easy to spot lies if you are looking, but we do not always look, and many time we would prefer the lie to be truth. Not all lies are exposed. Many times if you know you are being lied to you just leave it be, there is no point in taking someone to task over a lie if there is no harm done. Lie to exploit me and I will return the favor, I can lie with the best of them. Lies are part of life, it is a skill we must all develop. If you are an bad person then you will use lies to exploit, but then a bad person will be bad even without lies. Oh forgot. The lie via omission, this is not a lie, but it is a form of deception and the hardest to spot. PS OP love the Tattoo, very good work.
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RHP User
9 years ago
as thick as flies flies flies !! Everyone lies to what extent is the individuals choice , society breeds lies from a young age children are lied too constantly , and these may have certain agendas that are great for celebration but all the same they are lies ! Santa claws , easter bunny , tooth ferry , sand man , and the list goes on , all lies are found out one way or another but tend to hurt before found to be lies by so called loved ones , also seriously people really cannot handle the truth and for allot of others its easy to protect by lies , and i have an old saying (i would rather hurt you with the truth , than tell you a lie) A lier will hate that saying , The truth will be a forgotten language in the future extinct ! Humans will be detained and incarcerated for speaking the truth. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
9 years ago
Lying depends on motivation...Some lies are to protect some are to deceive and everything in between. Its a great subject and i recommend anyone interested listen to an essay by Sam Harris titled Lying...Great read or audio book. Can be heard for free, just google it.
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compressor
9 years ago
it is better people be upfront on what they look like and what they are after. no point is stringing someone along as you will be found out at some stage and you have gained nothing
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RHP User
9 years ago
And when people lie to cover their butts when they know they did something wrong. As for your question: Yes, I believe some people get a kick out of it. It's very narcissistic behaviour, getting an ego boost from outsmarting others.
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RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'Freya70' Lies,if they say they don't ,then they are lying ...it depends on the lie and the motivation behind the lie. Intent to harm being the exception, people generally lie to protect themselves or someone else.
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Mischeviouslad
9 years ago
People (in here) lie... to gain favour... they're trying to paint a circumstance to de-fuse the rejection mechanism of others. They'll say they're taller, younger, fitter, ..... more than they are...... to paint a mores appealing picture than the reality. Its either cat fishing,..... or editorial licence through advertising. Ive seen some lies and attempts at deception which were so brazen and obvious, I can't help but wonder who falls for them. And then, I look through the friends list.
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RHP User
9 years ago
Lying - to me it is Like tying knots on a string- the more you lie.. for good or bad... the easier the string will snap.
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RHP User
9 years ago
since I started apap treatment...no more snoring, no more convulsive style twitching, no more feeling hungover everyday or getting sleepy by 10am to 1pm area... I love lying 😊 - Posted from rhpmobile
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Seachange
9 years ago
but to what degree and frequency, and the motivation for it is more the question for me. I do white lies, specially to my family and friends. when I say I have a coffee or drinks date and they ask with whom, I say with a friend I met recently in FB or a function, not RHP. I don't think they consider adult dating sites very highly, knowing them. Some will be offended, as they don't know that RHP people is not always all about SEX all the time. But how can you explain to them that when they already made up their mind. And they are family and friends I love dearly. I leave them in their ignorant bliss. Lol. For the bigger lies, well the gravity of the lies vary from different people. Some little lies seem bigger to some and some don't care? Easier not to lie but we do it. I sometimes lie when I go for job interviews that I have some experience and technical knowledge in some platforms when I just bought a book and read it front to cover 2x before the interview. Lol. I am a fast learner, I have a good memory and I am confident. Best way to learn is learn on the job. I get the job done as I work 2x harder than the next person to catch up and deliver what I have promised. No complaints so far and they are none the wiser. We all lie. The lies that corrupt us morally and destroy us emotionally and mentally are that ones that are best avoided as it affects not just us, but the people around us. specially the ones we care the most. Be well.
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andyrabbit
9 years ago
A man dies and goes to heaven. As he is greeted by Saint Peter, he is led into a large hall whose walls are adorned with clocks. Looking around, his curiosity got the better of him and he asked Saint Peter "Why do you have all these clocks ? These are lying clocks", Saint Peter replied, "Everyone on earth has one, and every time they tell a lie the fingers of the clock advance. Pointing to one particular clock, Saint Peter said, For instance, that is Mother Teresa s clock and as you can see the fingers haven t moved. This indicates she never told a lie . Pointing to another clock he said That is Nelson Mandela s clock and as you can see, the fingers have moved slightly, indicating at some time in his life he must have told a lie. The man looked at Saint Peter and said, You say everyone on earth has a clock, and yet I can't see one for Tony Abbott. Saint Peter replied No you won't see that one. It's in the main office - WE USE IT AS A CEILING FAN !"
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AnnieWhichway
9 years ago
being a bi sexual transvetite/ transexual from a young age and trying to survive in a very judgemental society trying to live some sort of normal life. Some of us had to lie just survive the violence and prejudice. All cases are different so get the facts before casting stones to all around you. One size never fits all. So get the noose and hang me Im a liar. Everyone has a reason. Some good, some not so good, some bad. No good will be served by this thread. Lynching party.
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RHP User
9 years ago
Some people lie to avoid being lynched. No judgement here x
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RHP User
9 years ago
I do think the some people aren't intentional liars,it's just their perception and version of the truth..perhaps when they look in the mirror they see the person they were ten years ago,not the ageing,wrinkly ,over weight reality of now...and there is indeed something to be said for the lack of certain neuroses after all ...hmm I feel a bit jealous 😁xxFreya
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225Special
9 years ago
I have to agree with Meander, bending the truth for survival is the polar opposite of blatant lying for deceptive personal gain or to purposely cause pain to someone.
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RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'Blindman67' The protection lie. This is the lie said to protect someones feelings. "Does my arse look big in this?", "NO of course not!" This type of lie is also used to excuse or avoid something. "Do you want to go out on a date?" "No I am doing my hair tonight" Again these lies are mostly harmless and thought if caught out they can hurt someones feelings, the truth is just as equally damaging. Not quite the only thing that comes to my mind with regards to protecting ourselves and/or others. It can also be the difference between life and death (at worst), or to prevent unnecessarily hurting someone else for whatever reason (at best). In these instances, I think people are genuinely thinking of the best possible outcome for all concerned - from where they're standing. Emotions aside (once the dust settles), irrespective of the nature of the lie, I tend to view their discovery along the same lines as I view mistakes - as a learning curve - lessons & blessings serving as alarm bells and/or warning signs for future reference.
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RHP User
9 years ago
that I'm too honest. Is that for my own good or to my own detriment? It is only the other person who knows. I admit to the occasional little white lie but to those I really care about those little white lies are virtually non-existent. Tactfulness negates the need to resort to any lies at all. Close family and friends have told me never to change my honesty because that's what they love about me. It also means that they trust me and my opinions. Manipulative liars on the other hand are to be avoided at all costs. LG
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RHP User
9 years ago
...but how can you tell the liar who's happily stringing you along (aka the arsehole, who doesn't give any consideration to your position) from the one who's motives are more in the 'protective, white lie' category (aka the person who is at least mindful of their potential impact on you)? I just wish I had some little detector that would reliably help me see who's who.
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RHP User
9 years ago
I stretched the truth to protect family or friends, I find myself digging ans digging a deeper hole... One untruth leads to another and so on... I'm not real good at it because I lose interest and this big flashing neon sign appears on my forehead saying liar , liar....
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madotara69
9 years ago
When you get what you want in your struggle for pelf, And the world makes you king for a day Then go to the mirror, See what the man has to say For it isn't your Father, Mother or Wife, Who's judgement upon you must pass The fellows verdict counts most in your life, Is the one staring back from the glass Some people may think your a straight shooting chum, And call you a wonderful guy But the man in the mirror says your a bum, If you can't look him straight in the eyes He's the fellow to please, Never mind all the rest, For he's clear with you to the end And you have passed your most difficult and dangerous test, If the man in the glass is your friend You may fool the whole world, Down the pathways of years, And pats on the back as you pass Your final reward will be heartache and tears, If you have cheated the man in the glass Mado Mado Tara xx
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ruby_blossum
9 years ago
Yes, you would think that people, or most people should know by now that Karma is a bitch (whether or not you believe in Karma) and all lies will be found out at one point. I do think some people get a kick out of lying, it feeds their ego or a certain need for attention. Ofcourse there are many people whose second nature is to lie, about everthing, I think that is called pathalogical lying, its all they know. I have been told by many that I cant lie. My laughter will give me away each time. I have been told that I am blunt I have also been told that I can be tactful when I choose to be. Like Leo_girl, my family and close friends appreciate my bluntness..they know exactly where they stand with me. There are many here, men & women who will lie about their marital or attached status purely to get sex, which is rather sad as it indicates the experience is all about them with no consideration at all for the other person.
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RHP User
9 years ago
what do people get out of lies Iv been in a relationship for the last 5 months with a guy off here and I should know better nothing good comes from internet dating but because I fell hard for him I couldn't see it at the time but looking back everything he said was a lie it's over now and to tell the truth I'm not even upset about it I think there are just a lot of time wasters out and about - Posted from rhpmobile
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Baysidecouple214
9 years ago
*Mrs Bayside* I think what you need to remember is life is abundant with lies. We just chose to ignore it, in things we think cannot be changed. Ask anyone in sales. "Perceived Value". Anything you buy that is "on special" is not on special just for you the consumer. It is a way of either getting rid of old stock that is aging OR was purchased in bulk for cheaper than the standard distribution cost. That technically is a lie, if you think about it. It isn't really on sale, it is just someone getting rid of something they no longer want and to entice you to purchase it they make you feel special. Also what about religion? Politics? Science? ...
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TallBaldSexy
9 years ago
excellent - thats one thing I've had reinforced in here - never ever ever judge a book by its cover. I once read a post from a TV father. The despair of this poor person in trying to see his children. I'm a fairly easy going relaxed robust gent mostly, but fuck me that post was so sad I really felt for the bloke... Never ever ever judge a book by its cover! SA.
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TallBaldSexy
9 years ago
oh yes indeedie they exist alright. I was married to a narcissist - even if you no google that term until you have lived with one you could not comprehend the level of manipulation a human can carry out. These fucked up sick individuals are a breed of their own when it comes to lying.
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RHP User
9 years ago
I personally hate being lied to. I've had enough of men & women lying to me, saying oh I love you, I want you, you're the best i've had etc. Stop with the BS! I'm big enough to take the truth. If you're seeing someone else & you don't want to see me any more say so. Don't lie to me! You will eventually be caught out. Karma has a great way of biting you in the ass when you are caught. So is it worth it? Ask your self that question before telling lies.
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