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Why Men marry Bitches
September 13 2013
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RHP User
11 years ago
Those who can, do, and those who can't, write books! Wow what a sad author
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RHP User
11 years ago
A relationship is what you make of it. Highly individual and personal thing and requires hard work by both parties. Yes some like manipulation in a marriage and may suit them just fine :) not my thing, I kind of like the golden rule and would only want someone with a similar viewpoint! - Posted from rhpmobile
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On_Safari
11 years ago
End up making thier lives a) a living hell or b) so vanilla they stray looking for the ckick in Point 39 and then THINK that because we actually rnjoy thrm we are EASILY MANIPULATED??? Eff me what kind of buggered up male mentality is THAT!!! Obviously Meeka being newly single myself aftera long time the "dating game" has only gotten more twisted. Fuck it I'm still staying me....take me as I am ir watch ne as I go and if you don't want me tell me cos if I don't want you, just BEING a great shag ISN'T going to keep me there!! Though not looking to dive off the deep end for anyone for quite a long time....I am me hear me ROAAAARRRRRR. Where's Cavey and his club? atleast he's honest about it all. Not to sure what the point of all that is? Answer: Guys like the bitch that wraps thier stomach in knots thinking it's love. If you don't play hard to get he won't marry you? Answer: Men are hunters, it's the thrill of the chase that they crace, once the meat is dead who wants to play with it anymore....fckd thinking because personally the sex should just keep getting better the more you play together.... Treat them mean and keep them keen, and that men are, according to the author, huge game players when it comes to women and relationships? Answer: Yes they are, some more than others and then when they get what they want they don't know how to deal with it. Someanyway not all, because we know some of you are truly spectacular. I always thought most guys didn't play these sorts of deliberate games? Epiphony : neither did I!!! Is that because I don't play these games that I don't recognize that everyone else is playing some sort of game? SNAP GIRLFRIEND I HEAR YOU!!!!
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On_Safari
11 years ago
My type-o's are really pissing me orf!!!!
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RHP User
11 years ago
Yes its true...Men do want Bitches! They do play manipulative games to get women to react. Fucked up isn't it?? For me standing my ground and pulling them up on it, is the only way to go. Men don't want a women either who throws pots at them when they can't get their own way. Men do not want a psycho pot thrower!! I am not going to play fucked up mind games or give myself to someone who does not deserve me or plays manipulativily to be their entertainment...Fuck that Shit! I would rather stay single, have control of my emotions, and just be the strong confident woman that I am. Its gotta be someone special, before I go there. Imagine if roles were reversed! Can you picture men going through Women-OOOO-Pause...LOL till then, This Fox is Super!- Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
11 years ago
I have to laugh in the book at "TESTOFEST""A strategic, premeditated dating ritual that involves pushing your buttons. The test usually begins with his pulling back in some way just to see what will happens. He may deliberately forget to call"LOL the dog at the phone and no way am I waiting for it to sh*t!!FORGETS to call?? I mean who does that sh*t to get a reaction?I guess some men think that's ok to do??I know what I want and that is a man who sticks to his words and actions them!!FOXY
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RHP User
11 years ago
Did you end up buying the book?Foxy
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sweetgem
11 years ago
I simply just don't have time for mind games playing and/or men with "little man syndrome"! I wonder if those women who marry the manipulated men work at all, or what are their focuses in life???- Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
11 years ago
Well maybe my comments while be it not be in relation to this but hey here goes I was told that I am to head strong and Firey inside... And that if I act like one of the boys I be treated like one... I work in a male Dom environment and I have heard the way that talk about women ... Some of it good some not... I am a woman who speaks my mind says how I feel and won't be treated any less than I deserve ... And then to get told u try to be tough etc well I find that a bit tough being told that .., I am a woman I have needs and wants and I'm a social person but I will not bow down to any man been there done that... Society and ppla views have changed over the years and women speak up more and I don't think alot of men can handle that.... There are some who find it appealing.. Yet to find them ones... Anyways I'm a woman I stand my ground and that's that lol- Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
11 years ago
Sorry about mistakes lol fat fingers n phone- Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
11 years ago
Sounds like the author is trying to find a deeper meaning for the process of men finding out their boundaries perhaps?Not all men, but some men may require a reaction from their partner as well so that we are reminded that we are loved?I think the control part is for the twisted souls.Just my take....
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ruby_blossum
11 years ago
deserve to end up with a bitch......love the post Meeka, explains why I am still single, I obviously suck at these games.
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RHP User
11 years ago
I'm not marriage material.
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RHP User
11 years ago
Biggest load of crap we've heard in our lives! Both what's been quoted from the book, and some of the responses! Of course, as with anything there will be some out there that will do those things, but come on, seriously? Most of the posters here have obviously never listened in on a group of men discussing this type of topic over a few beers! Reverse the genders and then you've got it summarised. All the men we know don't want "bitches", and certainly don't want to "provoke responses for attention" etc. That totally destroys the peace and quiet required for watching football/cricket/basketball and drinking beer...lol. Maybe on sites like this there are the "players" manipulating left, right and centre, but as for real life relationships certainly not experiences we know of. Here endeth the rant!
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RHP User
11 years ago
why do women marry dickheads?When are we all gonna learn?
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RHP User
11 years ago
is lots of blah,blah about strong ,intelligent independent women but we are the so called biatches....and quite frankly my dears I do give a damn and mostly would rather sit on my finger
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RHP User
11 years ago
From the male here ? Trust me on this it works the other way as well... Simply in any relationship the more dominate partner may change from him to her depending on the mo n moods at any given time:)
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RHP User
11 years ago
Quoting 'Meeka100' I always thought most guys didn't play these sorts of deliberate games? Is that because I don't play these games that I don't recognize that everyone else is playing some sort of game? Is dating and the goal of finding the one just one huge manipulation?? Gawd.... No wonder I am single. If most guys played these games, I would have given up on them two decades ago. I honestly think women play more games than men. *Ducks*
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On_Safari
11 years ago
Meeks posted from a female perspective on a topic we are all well aware of being a "male" Environment. Trust me having worked with men all my life and having had an all male workforce of 138 I have had and seen some of the strongest most respectfully tough men deteriorate to tears in front of me because of the shite games women, girlfriends, wives, de factos put them though. I'm not your average bitch and defy anyone to even go there. I rarely have time for most women (although to truly enjoy them they must be very much similar to me or atleast tolerable) bash me for my arrogant honesty I don't give a shit but at the end of the day some Men play games too, for whatever reason and I believe the intent of the post was simply to broach the topic in an open gesture. i love men, i adored my workforce and had respect. the men I have met and enjoyed in high level positions either have "the perfect wife and the perfect life" or were trapped into marriage by "dumb cunts who got potted and then fckd them over for thier money, whilst women like myself DO marry for love (sadly I love my husband but like a dear old friend NOT a wife anymore) a d while we're on it I've slept in my car the last 2 nights because I am NOT going home and giving my husband false hope and too fucking proud to be a burden to my friends eventhough I have and wouldn't hesitate to take them in and tell them not to be silly. And would sooner poke out my eyes with a blunt stick than ask my lover to let me stay at his because a) TOO PROUD!! , b) I have had everything and WILL NOT BE THOUGHT OF AS LESS THAN I AM c) TOO PROUD!! D) didn't want to be faced with the fact that perhaps HE would have shied at having to be a FRIEND and not just a lover and quite frankly car camping hasn't been so bad.....lol my leather interior is lively and the seats hug me!! Hear me roar you pathetic male and female Biatches. There's my fucking rant....Mediator Indy
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On_Safari
11 years ago
Fck I KNOW I'm going to regret this later...but my mistakes are truly the only thing I can call my own and eventually my future successes will be too because I am ON SAFARI and I AM AWESOME!!
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RHP User
11 years ago
the only thing I want control over ..is the tv remote, ah, the simple things. Mr S
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RHP User
11 years ago
That made me sad. But happy too. You go, girl!
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madotara69
11 years ago
Not every bloke has a Batman suit. Then again not every woman gets Batman. (black ears and matching cape)
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On_Safari
11 years ago
Lol I'm beginning to think maybe I am a crazy fatherfucker!!!! Good news is I just got adopted....lol move in on Sunday. :( gonna miss the intimate relationship I developed with my seat warmers though..... Thank you Mes, but nothing to be sad about beautiful, I'm growing up!! :-D
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RHP User
11 years ago
Quoting 'Mesmerised' Quoting 'Meeka100' I always thought most guys didn't play these sorts of deliberate games? Is that because I don't play these games that I don't recognize that everyone else is playing some sort of game? Is dating and the goal of finding the one just one huge manipulation?? Gawd.... No wonder I am single. If most guys played these games, I would have given up on them two decades ago. I honestly think women play more games than men. *Ducks*
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RHP User
11 years ago
I disagree.I think it is true in some circumstances, and I think what is written makes logical sense.But that doesn't make it reality.I would never go into anything serious where games are being played. In fact that is usually my key to evacuate, and I do so easily without any emotional regret if this is case.A guy will only go crazy once or twice for a girl playing hard to get or deliberately acting distant.Most guys - who have already been through that, will leave the situation as soon as possible.Being open and true to your emotions is the way to go. It's also the braver thing to do.
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ruby_blossum
11 years ago
who play the same games as the men....I dont have much time for them either.
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RHP User
11 years ago
The Author does not use the word BITCH as a nasty cruel or mean woman rather more used as a strong woman with her own identity and very secure in who she is....she makes it very clear in her introduction...she also says that this woman will back away from any wiff of disrespect from a man. She's happy to give him his "space" because she enjoys hers...and that she will make it clear about what she will and will not accept..Its more about how a woman reacts to certain behaviours men do when hunting for partner material. The Author also points out that Fairtale romance of getting married is not what men want. The book is more about what influences men and dating... It is an interesting read. FOXY- Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
11 years ago
The Author does not use the word BITCH as a nasty cruel or mean woman rather more used as a strong woman with her own identity and very secure in who she is....she makes it very clear in her introduction...she also says that this woman will back away from any wiff of disrespect from a man. She's happy to give him his "space" because she enjoys hers...and that she will make it clear about what she will and will not accept..Its more about how a woman reacts to certain behaviours men do when hunting for partner material. The Author also points out that Fairtale romance of getting married is not what men want. The book is more about what influences men and dating... It is an interesting read. FOXY- Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
11 years ago
The Author does not use the word BITCH as a nasty cruel or mean woman rather more used as a strong woman with her own identity and very secure in who she is....she makes it very clear in her introduction...she also says that this woman will back away from any wiff of disrespect from a man. She's happy to give him his "space" because she enjoys hers...and that she will make it clear about what she will and will not accept..Its more about how a woman reacts to certain behaviours men do when hunting for partner material. The Author also points out that Fairtale romance of getting married is not what men want. The book is more about what influences men and dating... It is an interesting read. FOXY- Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
11 years ago
The Author does not use the word BITCH as a nasty cruel or mean woman rather more used as a strong woman with her own identity and very secure in who she is....she makes it very clear in her introduction...she also says that this woman will back away from any wiff of disrespect from a man. She's happy to give him his "space" because she enjoys hers...and that she will make it clear about what she will and will not accept..Its more about how a woman reacts to certain behaviours men do when hunting for partner material. The Author also points out that Fairtale romance of getting married is not what men want. The book is more about what influences men and dating... It is an interesting read. FOXY- Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
11 years ago
I heard you the first time, bitch. Sounds to me the author used the B-word to get people to buy the book, before saying "Oh, but I meant it in a positive way!"
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RHP User
11 years ago
....- Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
11 years ago
Perhaps I have this out of context however it sounds like this book is one huge validation from an author for externalising all of her own crappy behaviour.. seriously, acting like a bitch because of someone else? Bullshit... everyone chooses how they feel and behave.
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On_Safari
11 years ago
...here.....here......here......here..... ;-P xx
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RHP User
11 years ago
No I didn't buy it. I don't believe that men play those games anymore than women do. For me if I feel a person is playing games I will probably stop seeing them. Life is to short for that sort of crap I reckon. I am a fairly straight person so I will ask if I am unsure of something and so, if someone is constantly evasive or doesn't do what they say... I eventually say sayonara!! Can't be bothered. To me, if someone is not calling me when the say they will it means they are not that into me... So NEXT!! If I am with someone who makes me feel bad I stop seeing them. I never want to feel bad and horrible or unsure of myself.... It's destructive, and soul destroying. For example another point made in the book is that men deliberately make their partner jealous in order to check she cares about them. That is crap. Okay... I only read snippets in the book shop so I may have missed the point of her arguments? It makes me sad to think people read these books and assume that everyone plays these games and then act accordingly. Don't play games... Be true to yourself. Is someone does play games don't see them anymore, well unless you like the drama, which some people do of course.
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chevtrek
11 years ago
The women are deceptive or change as they get greedy. In the 70s most men were in jail because of a woman but now its drugs.
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RHP User
11 years ago
Quoting 'Meeka100' No I didn't buy it. I don't believe that men play those games anymore than women do. For me if I feel a person is playing games I will probably stop seeing them. ... For example another point made in the book is that men deliberately make their partner jealous in order to check she cares about them. That is crap. With books like "The Rules" out there for women, it's no wonder men think we're game players. I figure because media (whether it's books, tv, movies, internet) play into the whole "The other sex is soooo weird" myth, it is still a massive self-fulfilling proficy for many.
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RHP User
11 years ago
Playing Mind Games is soul destroying and now way would I allow anyone to make me feel bad to get what they want. I look for an equal... This book relates well to that. It is not a man bashing book. More the thinking and why men do the things they do and behave to find a partner/a good woman I think you would get something out of it. If you read you'll know exactly what I men. Throughout the book it mentions about to behave with dignity and pride and that being true to self is appealing, tis what men look for in a strong independent woman. FOXY- Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
11 years ago
Mind you I can picture some men playing those sorts of games to see if they have control ... Guess there are some people that enjoy games and others that don't. :)
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RHP User
11 years ago
I don't know... I just don't need a book to tell me how to behave?!?!?! But I am not into those self help books though. :)
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RHP User
11 years ago
Quoting 'Meeka100'Mind you I can picture some men playing those sorts of games to see if they have control ... Guess there are some people that enjoy games and others that don't. :) A brain injury in 2005 affected my memory in a negative way. I caught my ex a few times trying to convince me I'd said or done things I knew I hadn't. Most definitely a control thing.
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RHP User
11 years ago
I had a wonderful marriage.. I guess I must be a huge one sigh.
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wingman2014
11 years ago
Both sexes play games to some extent . But I think it's the exception .. Not the rule. I know of men who do this , as already mentioned, to keep the upper hand in the relationship . Problem for them is if the woman stays strong and true to herself then he starts to feel insecure and counters by playing even more games "to regain control". If any partner starts this sort of shite then it's time to pull the pin and move on. It's a form of mental torture and no one should tolerate it .- Posted from rhpmobile
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On_Safari
11 years ago
Foxy I don't know... I just don't need a book to tell me how to behave?!?!?! But I am not into those self help books though. :) Right on Sista!! Lol I learn best through trial and error and keep getting better for it......
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RHP User
11 years ago
Its a clear case of (literally) Judging a book by its cover. Some people caught up in mind games don't know they are in them until their thought process changes, self doubt etc etc creeps in. I think it takes a good strong person with inner courage to speak up and be assertive. *Sigh* Some people can't. Foxy- Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
11 years ago
With one of my friends on my payroll. They asked me about my reasoning for staying with a person in a marriage given these sorts of mind games. But, before I go further, I'd like to address the digging a person to get a rise out of them. I am guilty of such actions, and while I'll acknowledge they are a selfish thing. However, for some men that lack intimacy, contact, etc sometimes, it's the only emotional interaction that is forthcoming from a partner, or at least for me it was. Inexcusable?? Yes. Embarrassing to admit ?? Yes, and it's embarrassing to admit in the sense that by admitting it, you're essentially admitting to your own perceived failures. Be it deserving of that or not. Back to the discussion about why someone would marry a bitch. I could acknowledge there was a problem, I could acknowledge that I was unhappy. But why?? Why was I so unhappy and yet I stay?? For some, the games can be so complex, that you find yourself believing (for some stupid reason), that life without them would be worse than life with them. After all they say "I love you" so they must mean it right?? Wasn't I wrong!! These mind games prior to being involved with someone that - if I can define it by this but provoked these responses - I wouldn't have even considered. In fact, I would've kicked their arses to the kerb for it. This has been a thorn in my side for a long while as I keep asking why did I?? I still can't seem to find an acceptable answer that explains it. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
11 years ago
That this book was written to explain why some men happen to have married women that other people perceive to be "bitches" (however you want to take that word), not as a guide to show yoy how you should act to snag a man, haha! If men are marrying bitches though then that would certainly explain the divorce rate eh?- Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
11 years ago
If you try and cook a frog by putting it in a pot of boiling water,it will jump straight out.However if you put the frog in a pot of cold water and gradually turn up the heat the frog doesn't realise that it is being cooked until it's too late.
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RHP User
11 years ago
If you try and cook a frog by putting it in a pot of boiling water,it will jump straight out.However if you put the frog in a pot of cold water and gradually turn up the heat the frog doesn't realise that it is being cooked until it's too late.
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RHP User
11 years ago
I just wanted to say I love Bitches.
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RHP User
11 years ago
Agreed :)- Posted from rhpmobile
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