RHP

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Wingmen

December 04 2013

When I was at the last Sydney drinks night, I was struck by the friendlyness and camaraderie of the guys who attended, and the same is true of both the brizvegas and Melbourne crews as well. As I have spent the past 12 months flying solo, I've come to realise just how important it is to have a good wingman... So, what do you look for in a wingman ? And this is for the girls too, we know you like flying in squadrons...

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  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    It's been so long since I had a wingman I've forgotten how to use them. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • Mischeviouslad

    Mischeviouslad

    11 years ago

    Im going to decree the collective noun for wingmen and women, is "flight crew". :-)....I have a great crew, and my view is that two or more attractive women make better Wings than guys. There are many reasons for this but I know if I outline those readins why.... I'm going to cop grief from some women in here..... ..... Soooooo.... here's why :-D. Being seen in the company of attractive women laughing and enjoying my company automatically elevates my social standing with other attractive women who observe this. It 'pre selects' me in the eyes if other women because the outward perception is that I've already been accepted as socially interesting. And to illustrate how it can work..... think of some never-heard-of-them boy band, with screaming girls in their video clip. This creates attention, which creates social standing which creates interest and desire. Make what you will of the psychology if it. I love the company of women, so, it works for me. DG - Posted from rhpmobile

  • Mischeviouslad

    Mischeviouslad

    11 years ago

    Guys can be good, helping create a warm social vibe, but all too often I've seen insecurity bubble up when competition for attention arises. And this ruins opportunity for everyone. One friend of mine has all of the high status qualities.... but he takes over and demands attention if he is not in the spotlight. Another is a great Wing, but has a habit of putting others down to elevate himself. My experience is, women Wings just don't do this and actively want the best outcome. DG - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

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    11 years ago

    for you HP,because you asked x R

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    you just managed to send chills down my spine...and not in a good way

  • On_Safari

    On_Safari

    11 years ago

    No offense but your friends sound like wankers....just saying. But you're actually quite likeable so I can see why one feels threatened and the other needs to put other people down because he's equally insecure. Indy tellin' it how she sees it.

  • RHP

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    11 years ago

    Men hanging out with women are assumed to be okay, safe, nice, have a big penis in their pants and not on their heads; whereas single guys or groups of guys have to prove that they are nice, okay, blah blah blah.

  • RHP

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    11 years ago

    Goose is dead Mav

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    DG, there is nothing worse than an insecure wingman. I believe a good wingman is one who compensates for your weaknesses and complements your strengths, without competing... I also understand what you mean about having female wingmen, maybe it's just the male pair/group being judged as douchebags, but women are way more approachable when you are already in the company of women. Freya, can you elaborate for me ? Hp xo 💌 Because you're worth it...

  • RHP

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    11 years ago

    I actually go things alone. I know I can have a conversation with anyone, about nearly anything. That's all I need :) - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

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    11 years ago

    I haven't had "Wingman" for a while now ;pp - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

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    11 years ago

    Quoting 'Mischeviouslad' Being seen in the company of attractive women laughing and enjoying my company automatically elevates my social standing with other attractive women who observe this. It 'pre selects' me in the eyes if other women So do these "hostesses" of yours know that's a reason you want them around you? In case Charlize walks in? (She's at Fox studios right now shooting Mad Max by the way, though you should know)..HP, I love hanging out with female friends and the last meet and greet rocked. I've never had wingmen though, and would actually prefer to meet and talk to men without backup. (Or distraction).

  • RHP

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    11 years ago

    If I saw a regular looking man surrounded by a group of women obviously fond of him, I would just wonder why they all friend-zoned him and assume he had some non-negotiable flaw they all knew about. Or he was gay..Either way, I'd keep walking...

  • Mischeviouslad

    Mischeviouslad

    11 years ago

    Just waiting on a few of the others..... lol DG PS Regular looking.....and a group..... I like that. Thanks :-) Hahaha Maybe...... He has yet to decide which one HE wanted lol Nice try though lol On with the fun :-)

  • RHP

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    11 years ago

    Quoting 'Mesmerised' If I saw a regular looking man surrounded by a group of women obviously fond of him, I would just wonder why they all friend-zoned him and assume he had some non-negotiable flaw they all knew about. Or he was gay..Either way, I'd keep walking... Surrounded by female friends. Sounds like I need to work on my horrible flaws or search with in myself to find the repressed gay man that must be hiding there.

  • RHP

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    11 years ago

    Mes, you're an attractive woman though... It's socially ok for you to sit down at a bar and fend of the advances of men... Plenty of women here espouse the theory that they don't cold message men, because they don't have to or because they don't like being the instigator... And I know that your not one of those women. As a single guy, flying solo, there is a perception of desperado or "why doesn't he have any mates" syndrome. DG does have a valid point about the aura of success, it is attractive, male or female... Hp xo 💌 Because you're worth it...

  • RHP

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    11 years ago

    Not everyone's cup of tea but I prefer to do it alone, each to their own, either either neither neither.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    If I may.... DG's point I think is simply the following scenario :- A man walks in to a club/bar, grabs a drink and sits alone in a dark corner of the place, closed body language etc. A different man walks in on the arm of a friend(woman) they're laughing, joking etc. Which appeals to people more?? The guy in the corner or the guy laughing and joking?? The amount of women is irrelevant really. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

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    11 years ago

    I'm happy to talk to anyone and strike up conversations easily. I'm also the type to build connections so I can usually find common ground between two people. I think the problem with having a male wingman for a woman is that other men presume you're together. I do better when out in a group.

  • RHP

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    11 years ago

    I do have a male friend who is a great wingman... He knows heaps of people and is very sociable so introduces me to lots of new people. He's very obviously not my partner (people can sorta tell by looking) and is not threatening to other men. He tells me if he thinks someone is into me and tells them if he thinks I'm into them... He's a bit of a mover and shaker... Good wingman and I always do well when we go out!

  • RHP

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    11 years ago

    Great point awesome 👍 Your wingman sounds like gold 😃 A great wingman/flight crew... (Entourage 😛 DG) helps establish the connection... And as per mes point knows when to "take a hike butthead" 😄😄 Unless of course we are talking to mes... Depending on her mood we might need to call in the rest of the squadron... 😄😜😍🚀🚀🚀 Hp xo 💌 Because you're worth it... Jayjay...hugs !

  • RHP

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    11 years ago

    You're pretty spot on :) The quality of the company you keep lifts or lowers your perceived quality. That you're conscious of it is interesting. That you might be calculating about it is probably no-one's business. And let's be honest, there's something in it for the women too. If they're hanging with a half-decent guy they're likely to be well-perceived too. No judgment here.

  • Plain

    Plain

    11 years ago

    I was more like trying to keep my mate from getting himself belted, he had no fear to chat up any woman and usually they were attached to some jealous controlling boyfriend or hubby and had to extricate him from some sticky situations. Did it help only afterwards, when usually the ladies female friends took an interest in this quiet bloke who stepped in to stop some violence happening and who seemed to have some sense about him. MG good luck you are on your tot with that explanation. I have been out with some of my attached female friends and it amuses me on who THEY think its appropriate the ladies who I should talk to as the night progresses, almost as if I am first reserve or maybe not just safe.

  • Mischeviouslad

    Mischeviouslad

    11 years ago

    Calculating is an interesting concept. Not directed at you, but in reply.....Wingman/woman simply refers to 'friends' who offer what other friends do not in a social setting. We all have friends for certain purposes. Some are great for dinner parties, some do best at drinks events, some make great 'handbags' to top end social events...... we even decide yhe time and event we spend with family.... so really, choosing your wing company for the traits and advantages that they offer and which you offer them....to compliment eachothers social lives.... is just being smart...... it shows social intelligence.... and frankly I know I will have THE BEST TIME with the people in my 'flight crew'.... and I'm not in the practice of going out to have a crap time :-)..... So is seeking the best time being calculating? Food for thought.

  • RHP

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    11 years ago

    DG...I'm getting images of men clinging to women's ankles in attempt to fake it til they've made it lol - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

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    11 years ago

    Never thought to have one... have always just gone out either solo or with friends (be they male of female)... never thought of anyone as anything other than good company for a good time. SG

  • RHP

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    11 years ago

    A good wingman will always remain on station in close formation. Line Astern __________Right Echelon __________Left Echelon Line Abreast Line abreast is my favourite, though the most difficult to maintain. CheersJAB

  • RHP

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    11 years ago

    Wingman = friend/drinking buddy etc. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    JAB Thanks for the inFORMATION... hp xo 💌 In Melbourne for Xmas, wingman and playmate required... Apply within...

  • him_and_me

    him_and_me

    11 years ago

    I notice your sign off at the moment is asking for a wingman and playmate... Just wondered if that's two roles or one...? ;)