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Women earning more than men $$
October 14 2013
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RHP User
11 years ago
After 12 years of being the sole provider, bread winner, cook, cleaner, sewing machine, ironer, washer, cleaner, masseuse, nail artist, hair dye specialist, orgasmatron, party manager, holiday planner, nurse, taxi, etc etc etc etc... I'd love for a woman to make me her "house husband bitch!"... hell, I'd just settle for complete equality!... bring on the next Matriarchal Society round if balance can't be achieved!(I think I need to lay off the Red Wine and Gelato!)
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RHP User
11 years ago
I hit save and Meekas profile pic changes from and awesome ass shot to a disturbingly arousing butt-plug pic...
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inspirit
11 years ago
EQUALITY.For everyone.
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wingman2014
11 years ago
I grew up in the traditional household with my dad as the bread winner and mum looking after the house and kids. But times change .... Women used to be virgins when they got married ,FFS..that was how it was for many . It may now be a little difficult for some people to get their head around the fact that we are now in the 21st century and you need to adjust . Its really simple , people should be paid what they are worth regardless of gender . I really don't see how anyone could argue against it . - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
11 years ago
I don't really think it matters who earns more, but that's me. Will men have an identity crisis? Many already believe that is happening now and I think if we look across a cross edition of society they are probably right.
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RHP User
11 years ago
many periods during my marriage that I was the main "breadwinner" but I also still had to carry out the duties of a housewife! This was due to the way my now ex husband was raised, that men didn't cook or clean! Even if the men accept women earning more they also have to accept their role within the household as far as cooking and cleaning and this seems to be a bigger hurdle for many. Apart from 6 weeks off with the birth of each of my daughters I have never Not worked since leaving school.
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RHP User
11 years ago
Not if we also get to be the "choosers" with half a dozen fresh offers every other day ... with reward comes responsibility you know.In fact I'm rooting for ya.
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RHP User
11 years ago
the first change should be already when a marriage breaks apart and the parents share 50/50, I think this should be done through the courts without exceptions/ all work places would have to cater for it. this would be a big change for many employers....or we dont produce children anymore. Or we go the French way and school is to 5 a clock and both parents can have a full time job. Maternity leave will be 12 month, first 6 month for the mum, next six month the dad...again in Europe many countries are doing this already.parenting is shared and work to. So know one is left out.Now when you look at universities, there are many more young women then ever before,these are many of our daughters, these young women dont want to stay home and stop just to have a family and be mums....no way.So the politicians and our thinking have to make a change in any areas, so both genders can be catered for.To get it right all this is only possible when the politician think ahead lol....Oh my god will this ever happen?? We can only hope. I dont think Mister Abbot is this man, How many females are in his party????
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RHP User
11 years ago
Regardless of gender you never get paid what your worth, well the majority don't. Money is just another facet of a relationship. Main thing is if in a relationship to have 3 accts. 1 joint, whereby not a equal amount of $, but an equal % of earnings covers outgoings, and a individual acct each whereby you have your own freedom. It saves a lot of heartache.I generally associate with females that earn as much if not more than me, just an evolutionary step on my part. Over those in my demographic that haven't shown financial prowess.Now that comment should raise some eyebrows .
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RHP User
11 years ago
Well im in my second marriage and my kids live with my ex husband I currently earn twice as much as my husband and it's not an issue for us.
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RHP User
11 years ago
Sorry Jay, I WAS one of those husbands... I'm now reformed, not perfect, but much reformed. As to the income thing... sounds great... I look forward to my next date arranging and paying for the room and I'll thank her for being a paid up member and messaging me... :) hp xo because I dream...
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RHP User
11 years ago
I'll be too old for a suga ma ma by then!Could be a good thing. The world is changing. Same-sex marriage will be common by then too, so traditional families (who says we'll all have kids!?) will be a different shape. I think it'll better than that old insular macho "I'm the man - the BOSS" system. Then there's the social/phsychological part. My parents both worked, hard, my father earned more than my mother but I feel I learnt more about being a "MAN" and providing for myself from my mother. Gender, culture and social identities are constantly in flux.
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RHP User
11 years ago
This is only a point of discussion for older people who don't see it as normal already... As the younger people come up, there is no issue... In fact, when a bunch of guys are hanging out and one comes up and says, I found myself a chick... And she makes a heap of cash!!! All the other guys are like wow!! You've hit the jackpot!! Lucky bastard. - Posted from rhpmobile
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Tall74nHard9
11 years ago
I think those 'economists' are blowing raspberries up their own backside. You only have to look back throughout history to see that guys have always been the bigger earner on average, and personally I don't see this changing during my next couple of lifetimes. Salary bias will always exist for one reason or another, and I think that prediction is nothing more than wishful thinking. At the moment the only place that pays the genders equally are government departments, but private enterprize is still far from parity, and I believe that gap is actually increasing, not decreasing. Not withstanding which way the money falls, as far as 'house-husbands' go, that has been reality for some time now. I have had personal experience in that field myself for a while, and it didn't bother me at all. The main concern should be that all the bills are able to be paid and that there is a good work / home balance achieved by both parents. The rider on that though, is that some people, regardless of gender, actually don't like the home life scenario and prefer to be the working party. If it ever gets to the point where one or the other has the opportunity to stay at home it would be poignant to discuss who actually has the better temperament and ability to be the home-keeper, rather than based on traditional gender roles. And Meeka, as far as the upcoming generations of kids go, don't be fooled by the apparent ways of thinking now. When the get older, they will be fully aware of the traditional roles and perspectives, and they will still automatically fall into the same ways as their parents and grandparents. I have 3 adult kids aged from 25 to 30, who have all been fairly liberally treated, but (traditional) society still plays an important part in their lives. Tall
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Beachlover1999
11 years ago
Hence why I don't need a husband now, I did it all in the marriage and at least I do it all now for me and my child. Plus I was the major breadwinner, saw there was trouble ahead and went back to uni to take my career further forward to provide security for my child and I. Women are empowered not just in the wages department, we don't need men in the traditional sense anymore, we are fully liberated and can be whatever we want to be!!!! I own my own house, have a professional role, fix everything, negotiate deals, manage finances well, bring up child 99% of time why would I need a man 100%....... I would love a man though for some of the time, to feel and share love, to share and grow old with and of course amazing sex....... Meeks does this effect balance in society? Yes of course it does. Women have taken control of their lives in the west particularly, created change 10000% since WW2 and empowered themselves and this has created challenges for men, confusion as to what there roles are, much literatures written in this regard......Men need to be able to see these changes and evolve accordingly, some have already.... A friend of mine is a psychologist who is seeing many more younger boys with issues relating to lack of male roles and how their role is in society with all us strong women around. I am very careful now when and to whom I express my feminist ideology....... I also see how many young women today are not understanding or abusing these privileges fought by feminists and strong female leaders over the past 100 yrs. Just because you now can behave in a certain manner doesn't mean you should!!! :)))
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RHP User
11 years ago
This is interesting post :) I used to be the main bread winer with high end income (over $165000 pa n no not mines) not bad for a year 9 drop out lol... Now I'm the only bread maker in my home with 4 kids to feed n cloth :)) but the high end pay had to go to make way for time with my kids so I guess as for old fashion ?? I'm not sure it's more about survival then anything else... I love the fact I'm giving my kids a home not a house I'm proud to be feeding them and giving them small treats along the way :))
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RHP User
11 years ago
Sorry old mate but u are 100% incorrect re private company's and pay rates between man and woman :) I can say from first hand experience in the private sector they are the same from top to bottom I've work both government positions n private over the last 30 years and it's been much the same for the last 20 years
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RHP User
11 years ago
I feel from reading the may post here there r a lot of personal beliefs but at the end of the day it comes down to morals (man or woman) regardless of past loves we must give to our children the best we can wether we do it alone or as a couple has zero bearing.
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Tall74nHard9
11 years ago
Quoting 'Warning69'Sorry old mate but u are 100% incorrect re private company's and pay rates between man and woman :) I can say from first hand experience in the private sector they are the same from top to bottom I've work both government positions n private over the last 30 years and it's been much the same for the last 20 years Mate I hope your right in your beliefs - I can't speak from current experience, other than to say it is still almost a weekly subject on most current affairs programs about the disparities between mens and womens pay and their respective expected superannuation payouts. I too have worked for both private company's and government departments in a wide variety of fields and have indeed witnessed the discrepancies in pay between the genders in private enterprize. I still hold the view that this will not be resolved for quite some time. There may be some fields where the pay scales are the same for both genders, but it is far from being the accepted norm to date. Tall
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RHP User
11 years ago
Currently women take a lot of time off for child rearing and sometimes being a carer for elderly parents. This means not only does her career stall in comparison to a man of the same age, it also means that there may be years where she is not earning at all and hence nothing is going into her super. There are other contribution factors to this than just salaries.
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RHP User
11 years ago
Forgot to add that I have a number of friends who earn more than their husbands but have chosen to work part time because of their children and families, so again less pay due to less hours and less superannuation. Really, once the child isn't being breast feed anymore it's the husband who should stay at home but this isn't the social norm... Yet. But as the cost of living rises we all may have to be more practical about that.
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RHP User
11 years ago
Thanks for that I wasn't sure how you youngens looked at it. :D
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RHP User
11 years ago
I"ll be your sugar mama if I can spank your bot bot everyday. =D
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RHP User
11 years ago
I don't think there is any such thing. Like anything, you do do what works and when that stops woking you try something else. Now here's the thing ... Your OP reeks of money being the underlying issue (as I'm sure your economists writings would be) ... *raises hand in the air*"I don't get it Miss".
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RHP User
11 years ago
been there done that, in several circumstances, whatever works works.
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Tall74nHard9
11 years ago
Quoting 'Meeka100'Currently women take a lot of time off for child rearing and sometimes being a carer for elderly parents. This means not only does her career stall in comparison to a man of the same age, it also means that there may be years where she is not earning at all and hence nothing is going into her super. There are other contribution factors to this than just salaries. Absolutely agree with you hun. I didn't bring those points up coz it was not part of your original proposition. I was merely responding to the points you put forward about the status of salaries as perceived by the 'economists' in the years ahead. Women still do the lions share of the child rearing and looking after infirm parents, amongst many other things that can crop up in one's lifetime. This does indeed affect the areas you have noted - no argument at all. Tall
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RHP User
11 years ago
Yes, I suppose it is. It's a fact of life that the average family often can not afford to have one partner who doesn't work at all. Whether this is because of our consumerism or whether the cost of basic living is too high, who knows. Although I struggle to understand all the doom and gloom about the retail trade. Don't we all have enough shit? It gets to a point where you just don't need anything more. I have read that Australians are the most wasteful country in the world. Wonder if that is true? They are also saying that one of the impacts of the GFC is that companies are placing more importance on the "soft sciences", and the perception is that women are stronger in this area than men and of course women are more risk adverse than men which is another thing companies will value, for a while at least. Stereotypes? Possibly, but this may have an impact on women and their careers and potentially lead to the average woman earning more than a man. So the question is, how will this impact marriages, relationships and families? La_Primevera are you suggesting that a family is better off with the mother at home instead of the father? Money isn't everything I absolutely agree but that is easy for people with money to say. :)
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RHP User
11 years ago
It's like this..... You of all people show know that on a cash ledger credits and debits aren't written "credit(woman), credit (male)" etc.... Household bills = $1000 per week Household income = $1500 per week. Who cares who makes the cash? It has to be generated. What should matter is that household bills isn't negatively disproportionate to the income. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
11 years ago
This will teach me for trying to sound smarter than I am... The last bit probably should say "as long as the bills don't exceed the income"- Posted from rhpmobile
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