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Your ideal RHP national meet & greet

May 29 2016

Through the forums, many of us have come to form online relationships / friendships with our peers and would love to have the opportunity to meet these people face to face in a national RHP meet and greet. However, we all have different financial, time and other constraints that mean that any event will only suit a small number of this vast community. What I am asking for, in this thread, is your idea of the best fit for all. Please give detail of where, when and how you would like the event to be staged. By way of example, I will start the ball rolling with my idea. Where: Bali... Between airfares, accom, transport and food, Bali is cheaper than going interstate. Especially if you make it a short holiday (5-7 days). When: TBA... Lots of notice will be required for members to arrange time off work, child minding, etc and it should coincide with good weather in Bali. How: Rent a large private villa to be the playhouse. Participants will find lodgings elsewhere befitting their individual tastes. Rather than having one meet, the villa will be accessible as a centre meeting / play point for up to a week. Pros / cons: (Pro) It would be so much more than a M&G / (Con) you need a passport. Please give your suggestions and provide feedback on suggestions posted by others.

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  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    You have to remember Bali is a Hindu/Muslim country and while the Hindu/Balinese won't bat an eyelid if anyone of Muslim faith find a large gathering having a sex party you can be assured it'll cost more than $120. Also while Bali may be cheap for W.A & N.T people it becomes more expensive for the other states to fly.

  • AnnieWhichway

    AnnieWhichway

    9 years ago

    To be badly timed and disrespectful to the organisers of the current planned event.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Attract many interstaters,the best ones I have been to were Brisbane and Melbourne...I haven't been to a Sydney or Perth one....With the Brisbane and Melbourne M&G they had preceding dinners on the Friday night so people had an opportunity to meet and connect..Everyone was responsible for their own drinks and food choices. In my opinion Melbourne and Sydney are ideal cities because of their size and diversity..As to the nature of the event,I think less is more...IMO Mary has an excellent grasp on the m&g dynamic and her organisational skills included finding a house for twelve people to share..it was an awesome experience one that I will always remember Q

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Your scenario probably wouldnt need a "large private villa" as a play house. Its not like the meet&greets Ive been to have ended up in a group/orgy situation. Its more a social/networking event. If ppl do hit it off or want to play, they go to their hotel rooms. So the private villa may only be viable if a majority want to stay in the same place for a week. My ideal M&G would probably be the last one I went to in April. Just over 50 locals(and a lovely melbourne visitor) I found that I could chat more in depth, actually have a decent convo, and enjoyed the casual atmosphere in a lovely rooftop bar with a beer garden. Ive been to a big event with almost 200 ppl and hardly got time to meet everyone.plus I was pretty tiddled and forget who was who. ๐Ÿ˜Ž

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Whilst I am not saying that it would definitely happen, forward planning is never ill-conceived. Please review the drug laws in Bali and the rest of Indonesia before travel as there are even some on the list of what we may call prescriptions that could get you into serious trouble. There are also a number of laws that may pertain to what could be deemed as a public gathering and could redefine the consumption of alcohol and any public displays thereafter. Once you are on foreign soil, you are governed strictly by the laws in those countries let alone not being the most favoured of visitors in come countries. Having a blast should not involve a firing squad and swinging not at the end of a rope.

  • 0z_boy

    0z_boy

    9 years ago

    I would hold one somewhere most accessible to most people hmm a middle point kinnda like ummm Adelaide, then I would try and have it at a time when most people may have some free time, and then Id ummm welll arhhhh hmmmmm... buggerit the logistics are a bit too much for me too early on a sunday morning :S ๐Ÿ’

  • ruby_blossum

    ruby_blossum

    9 years ago

    a National Meet & Greet could be held in Alice Springs...centre of Australia. Otherwise, Sth Aust, Melbourne or Sydney. As early Melbourne M&G greets attracted some big numbers between 150-200 a venue that has room for many but no so large that a smaller group attending feel lost in space. A few tables and chairs for those who like to sit. Plenty of room to mingle. Ambient lighting for those who choose to mingle closely. Food and drink available on the premise for those who wish to spend whatever their budget allows. Outdoor area attached for those who enjoy a cigarette. Room outside for those who enjoy catching up with the fun and games that usually goes with those who enjoy a cigarette. Easy & affordable access to venue ...parking, public transport etc. Music at a level that allows conversation without loosing your voice. Pool table for those who enjoy a fun game of Strip Pool ( other wise known as... how naked can you get in public without being asked to leave). Dress code optional....to the level of comfort of individuals attending. Check the list of those attending who may like to Donate goods for door prizes. Do your best to make all feel welcome ....introduce the shy folk to the loud outrageous ones. ...just a few of my thoughts.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    The idea of a private villa is to provide a private venue, as a meeting point, where there is no risk of offending anyone. Were the guest list to extend to say 200, a large area would be required. Perhaps several meeting times per day would assist in getting people to mix, as different people would attend different sessions, depending on how they are filling in their days. And the intent would be meet, make some friends and then head off to do whatever you wanted...get a meal, ride an elephant...go clubbing...or play in your own accom. I recognise that overseas travel may be spooky for those that have done little, but I have been to Bali 3 times so far this year and it is very tourist friendly.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Another alternative that give plenty of time to mingle over several days, is a cruise. The problem with that is that the dates are fixed.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    I am just approaching this from the angle of it being more than a single M&G event. Much like a mini holiday. A spreading it over several days to a week makes it more accessible for those that could only attend on a certain day.

  • Tall74nHard9

    Tall74nHard9

    9 years ago

    Is it a realistic expectation to be able to have a National M&G ? As suggested above, Alice Springs or Adelaide are geographically viable locations, but probably not so much economically. Let's face it, we live in a bloody big continent, and most of us are spread out either at one end or the other. Travel time is always going to be a major factor in a compromise location, whether it be in relation to work, family or other factors. And with long travel, comes expense. Some of us are either not currently employed, on benefits of some sort, or have overpowering mortgages - all contributing factors in limiting what we can do. I truly applaud what our Western cousins have attempted - it is a difficult exercise to try and find the 'happy medium' when so much is involved. No matter what one may try to organize for a "national" meet - the logistics of distance will play against us. I really can't offer anything other than what has been proposed so far - Adelaide being a reasonably logical location / solution. Weighing up all the factors - you will never be able to please everyone for a great many reasons. Best of luck for the ones who have given it plenty of thought and tried to make it happen. Tall

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    I haven't been to one in Melbourne yet, but would like to. That's the city that has the most appeal to me (personally). I wouldn't even consider Bali. Some of those 3 day cruises might be OK as they include your meals and accommodation.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    I get to Melb from time to time Freo. If the stars align I'd be happy to chaperone you!

  • ruby_blossum

    ruby_blossum

    9 years ago

    Takes away my freedom to come and go as I please. And remember what happened to Gilligan, the Minnow and a 3 hour cruise

  • MsSuperFoxy

    MsSuperFoxy

    9 years ago

    Check this out.... http://redhotpie.com.au/Club/Luxury-Lifestyle-Vacations-1240 5 days in Ibiza look amazing. Paris! Mexico Cruises + more!! *I would one day cross one of those places off my list* I have been told (by excellent source), just outside Port Douglas is a great location. Ms Foxy

  • MsSuperFoxy

    MsSuperFoxy

    9 years ago

    Come to think of it.... I think there was a meet up at Bali a few years back with a few peeps. I think, it just so happened the timing of travel dates etc. There was chit chat I remember, within the forums and chat room. Ms Foxy

  • 0z_boy

    0z_boy

    9 years ago

    Quoting 'ruby_blossum' Takes away my freedom to come and go as I please. You'll cum and go from da galley when ye is told ya scurvy wench! ๐Ÿง

  • MsSuperFoxy

    MsSuperFoxy

    9 years ago

    I am unsure about... I guess one can't sneak off and leave when want too. I would either accidentally push someone overboard or I would want to jump overboard, to get the heck off! Puts a whole new meaning on "Move with the motion" sex. Finding places to have sex would be great! Ms Foxy PS- I have always wanted one of those Gillian Terry Towling hats.

  • 0z_boy

    0z_boy

    9 years ago

    Quoting 'SuperFoxxxy' I am unsure about... I guess one can't sneak off and leave when want too. I would either accidentally push someone overboard or I would want to jump overboard, to get the heck off! Puts a whole new meaning on "Move with the motion" sex. Finding places to have sex would be great! Ms Foxy PS- I have always wanted one of those Gillian Terry Towling hats. thar be no sneekin bout on my boat ya snivelin galley wench, ye be accidently walkin the plank ta have sex with Davey Jones if I spys ya up ta no good. AArrrrhhhhhhhh :p Ps who is Gillian Terry and what is towling hats?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    LMFAO.๐Ÿ˜€๐Ÿ˜€๐Ÿ˜€๐Ÿ˜€๐Ÿ˜€ As a FIFO, I do love my Aargh n AArrghs. PS: I wish I still had my yacht ๐Ÿ˜•

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Quoting '0z_boy' I would hold one somewhere most accessible to most people hmm a middle point kinnda like ummm Adelaide, then I would try and have it at a time when most people may have some free time, and then Id ummm welll arhhhh hmmmmm... buggerit the logistics are a bit too much for me too early on a sunday morning :S ๐Ÿ’ On the face of it, Adelaide seems like a "middle ground" but it isn't - it's 28hrs drive from Perth and "only" 8 from Melbourne. Given the flight schedules and competition on routes between cities, Adelaide isn't really a "center" for anyone except people in Adelaide already - even factoring travel time into it. PER-ADL has lower volume than PER-SYD|MEL|BNE (For a Friday, PER-ADL is 10 flights daily, PER-MEL is 16... SYD-MEL is 99 and BNE|OOL-MEL is 64). I did a few searches with OTA's and the difference on PER-ADL v PER-MEL on a random weekend in September was around $25 (it would be cheaper if I included Tiger, but I only wanted to look at main carriers - pre-Meet free drinks in the lounge?), and any SYD|MEL|BNE pairing is much the same with much the same flight frequency too (if you picked Melbourne but didn't mind flying in to Avalon it's absolute peanuts... but "Jetstar" bleh). (I'm not a plane spotter - more "Ryan Bingham up in the air" aspects) I hadn't looked at the hotel situation, big cities with big hotels and plenty of variance in cost to suit all budgets. Lots of people often stay away from the group so their "after party" isn't as on show. Quoting 'AnnieWhichway' To be badly timed and disrespectful to the organisers of the current planned event. If I were in a snarky mood I might say "I think you're missing it, that Meet and Greet is an 'Event', this is a 'Community based gathering' " or "if you're not interested in this hypothetical meet and greet don't comment" (in the spirit of how posts were responded to in the other thread) If I were going to an NYE type party where dancing and heavy drinking was par for the course, I'd definitely find an all inclusive price attractive (especially if they promise the drinks aren't more like a homeopathic preparation of alcohol) and convenient. Cruises sound great... but like others said, then you're locked in and can't leave if you want to - surely most people have gone to a party and then just not 'felt it' and wanted to leave. Foxxy: that's also my recollection of those posts about people meeting in Bali too. Anyway, I just think whatever event you plan, if it was billed as a 'community event', you're better off keeping the community it is planned for in the loop along the way, if for nothing more than managing expectations of people and/or your own expectations of what to organise.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Most people want choices.Choices of accommodation ,choices of what and where to eat . People want to be informed about costs before they commit to airfares and accommodation . If there is a set price then people want to know exactly what they are getting .Transparency should be part of the process.If RHP is sponsoring an event then say what it is they they are sponsoring..Onsafari let everyone know it was the band. Money is always a tricky thing.If a profit is made,where does the money go ? Snag,just organise a Bali event.It doesn't have to have a National tag. Some people will want to go,some not .I am sure you already know that there is a lot of work involved . I like S's Community m&g definition as opposed to an Event.IMO big is not always better,sometimes as per Willows comment a small gathering can be beautiful Q

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    is that a national meet and greet nothing more and nothing less Where: A city with a domestic airport in Australia Venue: a middle-range pub with a function room When: TBA. How: Book a function room at a pub for a deposit, attendees pay a ticket price of 20AUD and are to pay for their own food and drinks from a private bar - that is that they don't have to queue up at the main bar- I personally find the idea of organizing a swinger themed holiday in Bali ridiculous! Bali might be a "very welcoming towards tourists" and labelled as "tourist safe" but there are provinces that are far more conservative and enforce some aspects ofSharia Law including punishments for extramarital sex, homosexuality, drinking alcohol and even dressing inappropriately. You might think you do whatever you want within your own rented compound but it only takes just 1 person to go to the local authorities (eg. your cleaner) and then who deals with the fall out? As a single woman I my safety is my outmost priority - there is absolutely no way I would attend a swinger party or a swinger themed holiday etc. anywhere in Indonesia.

  • MsSuperFoxy

    MsSuperFoxy

    9 years ago

    I saw what you did there. ๐Ÿ˜ Ms Foxy x

  • Tall74nHard9

    Tall74nHard9

    9 years ago

    Quoting 'SuperFoxxxy' Check this out.... http://redhotpie.com.au/Club/Luxury-Lifestyle-Vacations-1240 5 days in Ibiza look amazing. Paris! Mexico Cruises + more!! *I would one day cross one of those places off my list* I have been told (by excellent source), just outside Port Douglas is a great location. Ms Foxy Just lurve your ambition. You could combine Paris with a cruise, on one of those Rhine River cruises that have you spending a few days in Paris, do the river for two weeks, and then a few days in Prague. Sound good ? Don't know though how you'd fit in all the sexual activities on such a small craft without suspicion.Tall

  • Tall74nHard9

    Tall74nHard9

    9 years ago

    Quoting 'S_OnTheLoose' On the face of it, Adelaide seems like a "middle ground" but it isn't - it's 28hrs drive from Perth and "only" 8 from Melbourne. Going by your above logic, then perhaps we should be looking more at Ceduna or Nullabor in SA. More of the "middle ground" geographically speaking. You could probably find suitable accommodation in Ceduna at least, but who would you expect to come there ?Tall

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Quoting 'SuperFoxxxy' I saw what you did there. ๐Ÿ˜ Ms Foxy x I did "dare" to post a response without attacking anyone just stating my thoughts? Is it not allowed? Or is it just me who is not allowed to share my own thoughts? oooopps I did not know I have to ask permission from you? online bullying report filed....

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    I'm having a major birthday next year! Im going to host a swingers event, I'm either going to Phuket or Brisbane (too many sexy people there to not consider it). As the lovely Ms Q highlighted, I have an idea of what I think an event should be like! If in Brisbane, it will have 'layers' to it, from a purely intimate meet and greet (dinner the previous night to do the interstate introductions, reconnections of friends etc.) the Saturday, an open meet and greet (public arena so limited shenanigans) and lastly, a discrete party play venue (by invitation only) but also accomodation that can be discreetly 'swinger friendly' for fun that can be ongoing over a period of days :) I'm hoping I'll bring with me to Brisbane some sexy friends from Melbourne so we can have a WOW of a time and continue to build interstate friendships ;) Mary xx

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    You know it has to be Brisbane done you? ๐Ÿ˜

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Just planting the seeds ... ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜˜ Mary xx

  • MsSuperFoxy

    MsSuperFoxy

    9 years ago

    Your post was not there when I posted mine. ;) Ms Foxy

  • AnnieWhichway

    AnnieWhichway

    9 years ago

    As everyone seems to say Dont tell me where i can and cant post

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    I agree with Q. Providing choice is really important when catering to a large crowd. Personally I would not like a cruise and I wouldn't go on a holiday meet & greet either unless it worked in with my holiday plans. Why would I go Bali with a small group of people (ppl I had not met before) when I can go to Jamaica to a swingers resort! More people, more facilities, more fun, more variety.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    That goes for posting new threads as well. If ppl dont like it...dont comment. There are lots of enthusiastic new posters at the moment. They dont have histories of loyalty and long friendships with other posters. A good thing no? Its fresh and brings a new wave of energy to the forums. They dont need to be told that their thread timing is unappropriate. Its not to them.It may seem that way to some ppl, but to others its just another thread branching off from another.

  • Tall74nHard9

    Tall74nHard9

    9 years ago

    I believe that Superfoxxy was referring to the "other" S - your post was also not up when I posted my previous 2 replies as well - time lag perhaps ? Tall

  • MsSuperFoxy

    MsSuperFoxy

    9 years ago

    LoL My Post was to Sex .. I had a giggle cause he posted"Jargon" like a plane spotter. I read the humor in it . So my "S" was to him. SYD, I feel your post was nothing more then a "jump to conclusion". Thank you for bringing to attention tho. I can understand how you may have thought my post was to you. If one does not have Instant posting, a post may not appear for a while., therefore it will be only seen by the poster, till it is approved Back on Topic, Now that I have explained myself to all of Australia, I have a plane to catch! I am meeting up with some fellow piers about feedback and suggestions for an upcoming overseas holiday. Ms Foxy PS-Gillian (from Gillians Island) wore a hat made from Terry Toweling material.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Quoting 'Tall_n_Hard' Going by your above logic, then perhaps we should be looking more at Ceduna or Nullabor in SA. More of the "middle ground" geographically speaking. You could probably find suitable accommodation in Ceduna at least, but who would you expect to come there ? ha, Nullarbor - everyone meet at the Lambert centre - bring tents, costumes and call it Burning Pie? Like I said after that, I think MEL/SYD/BNE would probably come out as the "middle ground" since travel cost is more of a factor than travel time nowadays. Quoting 'AnnieWhichway' As everyone seems to say Dont tell me where i can and cant post Annie, I'm more than happy for you to post away in here - my response was really a dig at how responses were addressed in the other thread, it wasn't a complaint about you posting in particular. I thought that would come across, but maybe I should have added a clarification. Quoting 'SYDnobarbie'Quoting 'SuperFoxxxy' I saw what you did there. ๐Ÿ˜ Ms Foxy x I did "dare" to post a response without attacking anyone just stating my thoughts? SYD: pretty sure I was the "S" that Foxxxy meant - you'd be "SYD" (though in days gone by, I'd have been "Syd" - now THAT would've been confusing) :-) (instant posting rights messing with the order that people see posts)

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Quoting 'SuperFoxxxy' LoL My Post was to Sex .. ... snip ... I have a plane to catch! I am meeting up with some fellow piers about feedback and suggestions for an upcoming overseas holiday. Akerman, or a stick in the mud? They'd probably like somewhere for long walks, even the short ones :p Have a good flight :-) (was going to PM and ask if you're a fellow FT or AFF-er, any others here who play the FF game?)

  • ruby_blossum

    ruby_blossum

    9 years ago

    ......bloody pirates...

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Would be there with bells on (and my bra would stay on this time) Well......maybe ๐Ÿ˜˜

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    It's not about the location but the people. Somewhere lots of my fellow forumites could attend, mingle, chat and have fun. Food and drink available for sustenance, music not too loud so we can hear each other, somewhere to dance later on in the night. A relaxed atmosphere so that people can just be themselves. As much as I like the finer things in life, a down to earth setting where everyone feels comfortable and where we can create our own entertainment.

  • MsSuperFoxy

    MsSuperFoxy

    9 years ago

    Actually I am! That's why I had a giggle, I saw exactly what you did. Very clever! ๐Ÿ˜ Ms Foxy

  • MsSuperFoxy

    MsSuperFoxy

    9 years ago

    Thank you. Ms Foxy x

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Who do you keep talking too? Someone called Sex?!?

  • MsSuperFoxy

    MsSuperFoxy

    9 years ago

    Canberra! Parliament House. For a national meet. I'm sure some of the Politician's would love it. Ohhhhh we all know what happened last time a table for broken ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚ Ms Foxy

  • MsSuperFoxy

    MsSuperFoxy

    9 years ago

    *"GOT" broken ;)

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    We think it would be an idea to have a meet and greet aligned chronologically with another event of social or even sporting significance. For example just before the Saints and sinners Ball on a Sat night you have a meet and greet on the Friday, or have it at around the time of the Australian open Tennis, the Grand prix or a comedy festival. Allows two events for the price of one and makes the justification of spending the $$$ way easier. That's our $$$ worth, hopefully well spent,,,

  • Tall74nHard9

    Tall74nHard9

    9 years ago

    Quoting 'SuperFoxxxy' Canberra! Parliament House. For a national meet. I'm sure some of the Politician's would love it. Ohhhhh we all know what happened last time a table for broken ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚ Ms Foxy Would the pollies actually notice us ??? Tall

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Quoting 'Hotwives_Inc' I'm having a major birthday next year! Im going to host a swingers event, I'm either going to Phuket or Brisbane (too many sexy people there to not consider it). As the lovely Ms Q highlighted, I have an idea of what I think an event should be like! If in Brisbane, it will have 'layers' to it, from a purely intimate meet and greet (dinner the previous night to do the interstate introductions, reconnections of friends etc.) the Saturday, an open meet and greet (public arena so limited shenanigans) and lastly, a discrete party play venue (by invitation only) but also accomodation that can be discreetly 'swinger friendly' for fun that can be ongoing over a period of days :) I'm hoping I'll bring with me to Brisbane some sexy friends from Melbourne so we can have a WOW of a time and continue to build interstate friendships ;) Mary xx What about us Perthites? :(

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    OK here we go... Location: Melbourne or Sydney simply because they are more central than Perth and Brisbane and bigger cities with more going on for those who are paying for airfares and so want to make a holiday out of it at the same time. Also have a variety of accomodation of all scales for those on a budget or with extravagant tastes. Venue: Big pub with a big beer garden which can be hired for the evening. Or Function room with section of beer garden sectioned off for smoking area. Coouple of tables outside for people to to take a break and get some air. Nothing inside. Nothing worse than pekople just sitting down at a table for the evening and not mingling. If this is you whay go to a M&G in the first place? Music: Normal pub fare. Not too loud as the purpose of a M&G is to mingle and meet. Also have a dance floor for those who like to cut a rug later in the evening. Cost: Minimal to cover venue hire and light food. Arrange with venue prior for cheap drinks/happy hour or take the business elsewhere. Food: Light finger food...nothing fancy I believe the purpose of M&G is simply for people to mingle and make their own fun. Plomp people in the same room and let them create their own fun. Of course, dinners etc can be organised prior but I think the focus should be on the M&G itself. Its really uite simple and doesn't need a whole lot of bells and whistles to detract from the main attraction I believe people are going in the first place....to meet other people. Thats the focus, so the less to distract from this the better IMHO.

  • AnnieWhichway

    AnnieWhichway

    9 years ago

    Quoting Annie WhichwayI find this threadTo be badly timed and disrespectful to the organisers of the current planned event.SAs everyone seems to say Dont tell me where i can and cant postQuoting 'Willow_1'That goes for posting new threads as well. If ppl dont like it...dont comment. There are lots of enthusiastic new posters at the moment. They dont have histories of loyalty and long friendships with other posters. A good thing no? Its fresh and brings a new wave of energy to the forums. They dont need to be told that their thread timing is unappropriate. Its not to them.It may seem that way to some ppl, but to others its just another thread branching off from another. Agree with what you are saying. But struggling to find where I said for others not to post. My original post was saying I find the thread to be etc etc. It was just my Opinion.............................

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    I am picking up 2 fundamental elements here: 1) No single location suits all. 2) People want choices. And I think that the solution is more... ...more M&Gs...perhaps each state could hold one a year...and give it their own spin. Maybe the Brissy bash isn't your cup of tea, whereas the Perth gig is right up your alley. Maybe the Sydney gig fits your time constraints better or Melbourne is the most economically viable for you. Maybe Adelaide could include a wine tour or Darwin that trip to Kakado that you always wanted to do. The RHP (forum) community can change considerably over the course of a year and greater frequency allows for more options in terms of location and scenarios that make it more accessible to more people.

  • Seachange

    Seachange

    9 years ago

    Quoting 'ruby_blossum' a National Meet & Greet could be held in Alice Springs...centre of Australia. Otherwise, Sth Aust, Melbourne or Sydney. As early Melbourne M&G greets attracted some big numbers between 150-200 a venue that has room for many but no so large that a smaller group attending feel lost in space. A few tables and chairs for those who like to sit. Plenty of room to mingle. Ambient lighting for those who choose to mingle closely. Food and drink available on the premise for those who wish to spend whatever their budget allows. Outdoor area attached for those who enjoy a cigarette. Room outside for those who enjoy catching up with the fun and games that usually goes with those who enjoy a cigarette. Easy & affordable access to venue ...parking, public transport etc. Music at a level that allows conversation without loosing your voice. Pool table for those who enjoy a fun game of Strip Pool ( other wise known as... how naked can you get in public without being asked to leave). Dress code optional....to the level of comfort of individuals attending. Check the list of those attending who may like to Donate goods for door prizes. Do your best to make all feel welcome ....introduce the shy folk to the loud outrageous ones. ...just a few of my thoughts. I like your ideas. I have attended a few Melb and Interstate meets and greets and that is what it is, just an opportunity to put faces to a name in a no-pressure atmosphere. I kinda like the Melbourne large meets that were held in the city as it suits my sensibilities. It suited me a lot when I first started, a free entry to a really nice bar by the Yarra River (opp. Crown casino) with food and drinks optional at the discretion of a member, easily accessible by trams and trains in the city. i heard the Brisbane meet organized by Onsafari was a blast! I missed that one by 2 weeks and couldn't make it back to brisbane due to my week with my kids. I also missed out on the last Sydney meet organized by Summer and group, as I was heading overseas on a work trip. As a newbie then, I was very nervous and did not know what to expect. It afforded me the option to leave the venue at any time I wanted if I either did not feel it was right for me, need to leave early for good reason (commitments next day) or I felt I found that things were working out so well with another RHPier and we want to take it further to a bar or anywhere we want. Nothing like a good exit strategy . My ideal Meet would not be a sit down allocated seating as the idea of sitting next to someone the whole night would be a nightmare if we did not click or I just detested. It would be very awkward. Hence my preference for the option to move around and forced to mingle and socialize with both the introverts and extroverts in the group. Also introducing the lovely introverts to the extroverts (like myself). Also, the idea that I may be seated in a table far from the action is for me limiting. Int he Melb meets, we were all standing around, with a few seats around the area. The set up was great and intimate (approximately 100 or so people) and the set up, with the strategic locations of fireplaces and gas heaters in the outdoor area, provided a space for people to gather and chat while warming up. Like a mini campfire. I think this is very Melbourne. Music playing in the background (live band or singer) alternating with piped in funky music. In the other forum, Stirry had made a good point of the random introductions and chat you can have with other people (rhp members or not) when you do a drinks run to the bar. I remember Stirry grabbing me by the hand to introduce himself and we had a little chat but unfortunately not long enough to get to know him as I was bursting to go to the toilet. Next time Stirry!!! As a non-drinker, I exploited that opportunity to grab iced water at the bar and chat with people along the way and make a good impression on the people in a non-drunken state. Lol. I have made new friends both RHPiers and muggles.

  • Seachange

    Seachange

    9 years ago

    the melb meet was great because of the large choice of accommodation (all budgets) in the city all within the free transport zone in the city (i.e. trams are free the whole night, 24 hours Friday and Saturday nights), most within walking distance of so many funky bars, comedy venues and music venues running the whole night in the city and it's famous laneways. So many places to go in the city after the Meet and greet has finished up (12 midnight). I love the Melbourne night life and food scene. I don't mind paying a cover charge of $20-30 for a decent band or DJ in a Meet and Greet. Why not if it meant that it could up the ante in a meet and make it more memorable. In the last melb meet in the city, there was music that people danced to when they felt like it, and that was fun. But the music was not loud as most of us chatted away by the outdoor fireplace and gas heater stands.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Hmmmm....just a thought. A cruise ship that travels around the coast of oz, stopping at various ports....Brisbane, Sydney, Adelaide, Perth, Broome, Darwin. People can choose their port of arrival and departure within the travel time, and fly home, or arrive at home port. That way, people can choose to stay the entire journey, or just plan for a couple of days, depending on their time and expenses they can afford. Yes, a bit tricky planning the room changes for passenger's, but the cruise ship should be able to cater for this. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • Nitrox1

    Nitrox1

    9 years ago

    Why would anyone go to a country that supports state sanctioned murder and is one of the most corrupt places in Asia. enough said

  • MsJonesy

    MsJonesy

    9 years ago

    Yes, your idea is great....and we have done that here in Melbourne. We held a m&g to coincide with Saints & Sinners (obviously not on the same night!) and had a massive turn out. It was great to meet so many interstaters who were in town, making the most of having two events in the one weekend. I know some of the friendships made that night span many states...and provide many excuses for a wicked holiday ;-) I think holding a national meet and greet really has to be in a capital city; one with a large and active swinging scene. The locals will make up a big percentage of the attendees so make sure it's somewhere with a good number of frisky folk otherwise you will struggle to get your minimum numbers for the night...which means set prices go up ๐Ÿ˜ก There are lots of great suggestions above, don't really have much to add at the moment (and I am running late for work! ).

  • MsJonesy

    MsJonesy

    9 years ago

    Yes, your idea is great....and we have done that here in Melbourne. We held a m&g to coincide with Saints & Sinners (obviously not on the same night!) and had a massive turn out. It was great to meet so many interstaters who were in town, making the most of having two events in the one weekend. I know some of the friendships made that night span many states...and provide many excuses for a wicked holiday ;-) I think holding a national meet and greet really has to be in a capital city; one with a large and active swinging scene. The locals will make up a big percentage of the attendees so make sure it's somewhere with a good number of frisky folk otherwise you will struggle to get your minimum numbers for the night...which means set prices go up ๐Ÿ˜ก There are lots of great suggestions above, don't really have much to add at the moment (and I am running late for work! ).

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    What I am picking up from recent comments is that there are lots of M&Gs happening all over Australia. Some large, some small. So, I don't think your idea is anything new as it is already beening done. I did read a couples comment about going to the Adelaide M&G because it was a unique event, didn't want to say at the time, but these M&G are not unique or one off occasions from the sound of it. Hope they aren't disappointed. Looks like the M&G nights organised by forum members attracts an older crowd. 40-60's.

  • Seachange

    Seachange

    9 years ago

    Quoting 'CandyDelicious' What I am picking up from recent comments is that there are lots of M&Gs happening all over Australia. Some large, some small. So, I don't think your idea is anything new as it is already beening done. I did read a couples comment about going to the Adelaide M&G because it was a unique event, didn't want to say at the time, but these M&G are not unique or one off occasions from the sound of it. Hope they aren't disappointed. Looks like the M&G nights organised by forum members attracts an older crowd. 40-60's. You are right. SNAG, This is not a new occurrence and it has been going on for a while. In my knowledge, at least 1 large meet (100-150people) is organized a year in major capital cities like Brisbane, Sydney and Melbourne and a few small meets (20-50) along the way. Perth had their first meet in Oct 2015 which I also attended. Met lots of good people there. Melbourne had 2 meets last year and 2 the year before. Many interstate visitors came over and many friendships, both of sexual and non-sexual kinds, were made. Nice to really put a face to a name/avatar. Lots of locals in melbourne and from country Vic attended the meets, both singles and couples of all ages (20's - 60s, with the median age to be mid30s- 40s). It was very clever of the Melb organizers to set the date of the last big melb meet to follow the Saint and Sinners ball. Very clever and opportunistic to catch the flow thru of people. We had a great turnout of 150 sexy people (local and interstaters) by the looks of it and the bar would have made a killing! Best thing is that the majority of these attendees have a good number of life experiences behind them and know what they want. Most are self-confident and relaxed individuals and see through a lot of the situations for what they are. In melbourne meets, no dramas that I was aware of (maybe one that I heard months later) and the drama queens/divas wanting constant attention to placate their insecurities were not present. It went very smoothly, classy and urbane. Most were dressed to impressed. But people came dressed as they wished. So civilized yet very naughty people.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Quoting 'abrolhoscouple' We think it would be an idea to have a meet and greet aligned chronologically with another event of social or even sporting significance. For example just before the Saints and sinners Ball on a Sat night you have a meet and greet on the Friday, or have it at around the time of the Australian open Tennis, the Grand prix or a comedy festival. Allows two events for the price of one and makes the justification of spending the $$$ way easier. That's our $$$ worth, hopefully well spent,,, that would be even worse IMO. Following something like a Saints and Sinners ball would be OK, because it is relatively small in the grand scheme of things (and large crossover in the attendees), but you don't want to be trying to fly to a city and stay anywhere near the time of something big like the Tennis or Grand Prix.I flew down to Melbourne for a tournament during the tennis open, every flight was jam packed and fortunately I had booked well in advance as the flight prices went bonkers, fortunately I was not staying in the city so the hotel situation wasn't an issue. I was unfortunately in Melbourne when the Lions came out for the rugby, and everything in the city was sold out then as well. I like being able to combine the trips so you maximise your annual leave, but on the cost side of things it often isn't such a saving - and would be prohibitive for most, as they wouldn't be there for the other activity.

  • Seachange

    Seachange

    9 years ago

    why dont you fly down to melb in our next Melb meet and greet? Not sure when but I am sure it would be fun for you to meet a lot of the forumites here. dont ask me details as we melbournites are about to enter our hibernation stage as winter has set in. Braincells all frozen at this point so don't poke us in our cave until the first sign of spring... Now, can you dance?

  • Seachange

    Seachange

    9 years ago

    I'm in sydney, holed up in my hotel room as it is cold and wet outside.... was hoping to check out the sights or dinner alfresco at the rocks after work. Now, I'm too lazy to get out in the rain. So it is me and room service and my work laptop withg a nice drop of red from the bottle shop near the hotel. Walking to work today was noooottttt fun. What happened Sydney? I thought I left the cold drafty winter weather in Melb on Monday?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    No Lily, it's the same here, not wet, just freezing. I'm into my winter gear, jumper, socks and no pants

  • fuckingboom

    fuckingboom

    9 years ago

    Brisbane is the place to be :)

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    I hope you saw a bit of Vivid?

  • Nitrox1

    Nitrox1

    9 years ago

    Was in Brisbane for the weekend, daytime weather was great, its just a pity that the city and surrounds close at 9:30 PM

  • Seachange

    Seachange

    9 years ago

    Yes!! Amazing. From Circular Quay station platform saw some wonderful display of it on opera house n the rocks area. Was hoping to walk around n check some more tonight after work. Weather permitting. My hotel is up St. James station by Hyde Park so want to see something local there too. Thanks.

  • Seachange

    Seachange

    9 years ago

    Quoting 'Nitrox1' Why would anyone go to a country that supports state sanctioned murder and is one of the most corrupt places in Asia. enough said I have been to Bali so many times with my kids for over 15 years and have come to appreciate the Balinese culture (which is different from Indonesian culture JFYI) and the gentle and compassionate way of life of the Hindu Balinese. As a state under the control of the Indonesian government, Indonesian capital punishment laws supercede any laws in the island of Bali. We have made friends with families with the hotel employees and have supported Bali before and after the bombing. Their sense of hospitality is heart warming, sharing their meager meals with us when we know they can not afford to. so unless you have been exposed to the day to day life of the 'real' balinese and not one of those bogan tourists in Kuta, whose idea of holiday there is getting drunk and abusing locals, well, I think you may have to re-think your blanket approach to Bali. Wrt to your comments above, considering your strong aversion to them, well I suppose you should dismiss any further visits to the good ol U.S. of A, Malaysia and South Korea. Just my thoughts.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Quoting 'lilyorchid' Quoting 'Nitrox1' Why would anyone go to a country that supports state sanctioned murder and is one of the most corrupt places in Asia. enough said I have been to Bali so many times with my kids for over 15 years and have come to appreciate the Balinese culture (which is different from Indonesian culture JFYI) and the gentle and compassionate way of life of the Hindu Balinese. As a state under the control of the Indonesian government, Indonesian capital punishment laws supercede any laws in the island of Bali. We have made friends with families with the hotel employees and have supported Bali before and after the bombing. Their sense of hospitality is heart warming, sharing their meager meals with us when we know they can not afford to. so unless you have been exposed to the day to day life of the 'real' balinese and not one of those bogan tourists in Kuta, whose idea of holiday there is getting drunk and abusing locals, well, I think you may have to re-think your blanket approach to Bali. Wrt to your comments above, considering your strong aversion to them, well I suppose you should dismiss any further visits to the good ol U.S. of A, Malaysia and South Korea. Just my thoughts. We thoroughly enjoyed Bali and the people where fantastic, however we did behave and didn't act like bogans therefore had no fear of being forced to pay bribes or jailed. I dislike it when people think of Bali in the above mentioned way, we still talk to our Balinese friends and occasionally some of them even visit us here in Australia when they come over for business trips.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Please bear in mind that the suggestion of Bali was merely to present one option, which I expected would only suit a few, and to initiate discussion on other alternatives. I suggested it as it is largely neutral, and to those that rightly point out that it is more expensive flying from southern states, remember to factor in food, accom and transport. It is cheaper to stay in Bali for a week than it is to spend a night or 2 interstate...unless you are local of course.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    I see now that my OP was largely based on ignorance of the recent history of M&Gs held. My exposure to date was more geared toward attracting newbies to an existing club, where they may elect to stay on and play. That is not what I am seeking. I seek functions that are primarily geared toward the Forumites. Where it is clearly understood, by would be hopefuls, that it is a social event, not a chance to get laid. By the sound of it, there have been many such events, Australia wide, and will be plenty more. I just have to keep an eye on upcoming events in all states and looking for something that fits my time constraints.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Yep...I like the idea. However, S brings up a really good point...do not coincide with major events or the accessibility and cost is likely to be prohibitive to interstate travels. And I agree the Melbourne has a lot to offer in terms of Comedy Clubs, etc. If only you could rely on the weather. ๐Ÿ˜€๐Ÿ˜ฑ๐Ÿ˜€๐Ÿ˜ซ LOL.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Re: Can you dance? I used to be able to dance, before my 3rd hip replacement and walking frame...๐Ÿ˜€๐Ÿ˜€๐Ÿ˜€ (joking)...it was only 2 hip replacements ๐Ÿ˜›๐Ÿ˜› (joking again). I had a series of pictures of my ex & I dancing at a street side cafe in Tweed Heads, that finished with my ex directly above me...head down, legs up. It is a Rockabilly (Rock n Roll) move called the "Candle stick". We used to also do demos at events. Other than that, if the music is happening, my legs will be bopping. Until that slow song comes on and it starts getting all up close and personal. ๐Ÿ˜ˆ๐Ÿ˜€๐Ÿ˜€

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    "Oh you are naughty...but I like it." Name that show. ๐Ÿ˜€

  • Nitrox1

    Nitrox1

    9 years ago

    Lily, You have missed the point I was making. The Balinese people being so nice has nothing to do with it, its a corrupt regime and anyone who goes there inadvertently helps that regime by supporting their tourism industry. I have visited 74 countries through out my life, but as I have become more aware of injustices in the world, I would never visit some again. Happy to go to parts of the USA as there is 19 states that do not have the death penalty. Also your right I have no interest in going to Malaysia, South Korea or Singapore for that matter. The death penalty is something I feel very strongly about, as you judge a society by how it treats it misfits. Adelaide, its naive to think you have to act like a bogan to get caught up in corruption. By definition it ruins the lives of honest people Sorry op not trying to hijack your thread, understand now where your coming from so no more comments off topic from me.

  • On_Safari

    On_Safari

    9 years ago

    I haven't been to a bad member organised Meet & Greet yet and I believe they're all "National" ones because everyone travels far and wide for them. The last Brissy M&G had a couple holidaying from California with RHP friends who came to check out the party on their way south from Cairns. I don't think any of the organisers choose their venues lightly and can honestly say regardless of the expense per person (flights, accom, food, drinks) every consideration is given to ensuring that everyone feels welcome and has a safe, sane, consensual and entertaining evening/long weekend/week. You'd be surprised though how venues WILL wheel and deal to come to a mutually beneficial agreement to get what you want. Negotiations and marketing set the mood mostly I think. At the end of the day it's all in your attitude and approach. The cruise sounds good, am looking at one in Europe for $6k/pp all inclusive but worried I'll be all at sea and won't get laid!! Lol

  • On_Safari

    On_Safari

    9 years ago

    The Sundowner sounds like an amazing backdrop to an equally fun weekend with the party people ๐Ÿ˜Š

  • On_Safari

    On_Safari

    9 years ago

    The meet and greets aren't targeted for the Forum mites it's an open invitation to ALL to come along and have a good time and meet a few people in a casual party atmosphere. Would be pretty boring without the general populace present don't you think? (Broad smile eyebrows raised) Besides its fun to put names to profiles, destroy people misperceptions and lay waste to nasty gossip you've heard about others by meeting those persons for yourself and drawing your own conclusions. Oh and did I mention they're TOTALLY FUN!! Until you set fire to your hair and get asked to leave by security or find your friends huddling around a toilet bowl or any other number of comedic misadventures the cartoon crowd get themselves into ~ Indy

  • Seachange

    Seachange

    9 years ago

    Quoting 'On_Safari' The Sundowner sounds like an amazing backdrop to an equally fun weekend with the party people ๐Ÿ˜Š The Perth socialites did a wonderful job of organizing this Perth casual meet where everybody rocked up to the wonderful views of perth and the surrounds. It was a lovely day, casual affair and then they organized for people to head elsewhere to clubs after the sundowner,. One of the most memorable meet I had interstate as people were there to congregate with other like-minded people in a simple setting with views to die for. Kudos to the Perth organizers.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    I'll never forget you playing frisbee in a dress and heels! Kudos to you my dear

  • Seachange

    Seachange

    9 years ago

    Quoting 'unicorn99' I'll never forget you playing frisbee in a dress and heels! Kudos to you my dear You know me, sports appeal to my hyperactive nature ...... I can't turn down a game of footy that night (even if only to do handballs, kicking was not advisable with heels) and any excuse to play with a frisbee. Loved it when I played frisbee in the dying light with a few people specially with LittleInnocent's gorgeous gal. It was fun, heels or no heels.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Quoting 'lilyorchid' Quoting 'On_Safari' The Sundowner sounds like an amazing backdrop to an equally fun weekend with the party people ๐Ÿ˜Š The Perth socialites did a wonderful job of organizing this Perth casual meet where everybody rocked up to the wonderful views of perth and the surrounds. It was a lovely day, casual affair and then they organized for people to head elsewhere to clubs after the sundowner,. One of the most memorable meet I had interstate as people were there to congregate with other like-minded people in a simple setting with views to die for. Kudos to the Perth organizers. With the exception of one predatory type everybody I met was really nice.It was so casual one bloke even turned up in high vis on the way home from workEven though he tried to hide it under a spiffy new leather jacket

  • Seachange

    Seachange

    9 years ago

    It was a pleasure chatting to you my dear. were you in hiviz? ๐Ÿ˜ I didn't notice. Winky wink ๐Ÿ˜‰ I made sure I went around the room and every group to introduce myself in my best behaviour. I am the social butterfly and I love being friendly to people, as long as they are sane. ๐Ÿ˜ Was I predatory that night? awww ๐Ÿ˜”

  • MsSuperFoxy

    MsSuperFoxy

    9 years ago

    Spectacular Memories... I love Kings Park! One of my favorites places in Perth. I've been quite a few times at night- City skyline night views are brilliant. The Meet and Greet there was fabalous and very chillaxed. I met some really beautiful people that night. I agree, the organisers did a pretty awesome job in organising the whole weekend. Rant, Don't ya know....high vis is the new sexy. ;) Sorry OP, off Topic there a bit. Ms Foxy x

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Quoting 'lilyorchid' Was I predatory that night? awww ๐Ÿ˜” I probably would've encouraged you

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    I've put some thought into this and the ideal national meet and greet would be a game of spin the bottle at my place. I might put an event up and see if I get any interest It'll be a pirate theme, thanks Willow for that sexy idea, so wenches and scurvy ridden pirates, bilge rats whatever haha batten down the hatches. Drinks and sex only. Wenches won't be in the galley at my place and you boys (oops pirates) can come to my place and raise your mast Fire in the hole......................... No land lubbers allowed

  • Forus1234

    Forus1234

    9 years ago

    An ideal Meet & Greet, on a cruise ship, 3 day sampler cruises, cruises to nowhere, we have seen them as low as $300. The cruise ships depart from every state in Australia. We were on one last year for a family event & there were plenty of people onboard with coloured hair dressed up as drag queens in the nightclubs & we found out a gay & lesbian group were hosting a weekend away. They were having a ball, along with the bucks & hens weekends & others celebrating. It was a fab cruise! ๐Ÿ˜œ

  • On_Safari

    On_Safari

    9 years ago

    Others thought it would be too hard to escape should the need arise. Personally I think I run a tight ship and I'm not averse to having ant trouble makers take a long walk off a short plank. Aye aye me hearties! - Indy at Sea (where are you Capt Ob1?) I've always wanted to have a RHP Toga Party around a pool with a BBQ etc as a lead up to a M&G. Just to see how creative people get with sheets ๐Ÿ˜Ž

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Quoting 'On_Safari'I've always wanted to have a RHP Toga Party around a pool with a BBQ etc as a lead up to a M&G. Just to see how creative people get with sheets ๐Ÿ˜Ž I used to have a Jordache sheet and doona set so it made a great toga when it came to toga party time.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Would be a masquerade ball..17th century style set in an old mansion on a river..remember those beautiful silver masks Indy ? Q

  • On_Safari

    On_Safari

    9 years ago

    You know I wanted to do that exact thing but where am I going to find a castle on a budget? And a few were worried about all their finery and frapperies getting crushed in their suitcases...... I still think a masque would be freaking awesome especially if everyone got into it!! There is a home on the hill just up from whereI live that looks exactly like a castle (I chide you not!! Turrets and everything!!). BUT it's someone's home and I highly doubt they'd allow a bunch of sexually mature and open minded strangers to run amok in it. Though the thought of seeing Annie in a period frock and corset is verrrry tempting not to mention some of the men in tights with their codpieces ๐Ÿ˜ˆ

  • MsJonesy

    MsJonesy

    9 years ago

    Those codpieces...mmmm....what lies beneath? Such a tempting piece of attire. Of course Black Adder come immediately to mind ๐Ÿ˜„๐Ÿ˜‰

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    my plan today was to buy a white sheet and set about repurposing it, scissors in hand, and post a picture wearing the scraps of fabric I unfortunately never have the time for such frivolity. HOWEVER I'm going to do it when time allows. I'm taking up the challenge of turning a white sheet into something really sexy Just might not be much left of the original white sheet

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Now regarding finding a castle on a budget, nice idea btw, come on guys, there has to be someone rich on here who owns a castle? We'll be disceet

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Save the sheet,just use a beautiful pillowcase ๐Ÿ˜ˆ xxQ

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Maybe a hotel with a beautiful staircase for the masquerade ball. Perhaps a Venitian theme ? ..how possible would the Versace be? XQ

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    I just took a peek..it's so beautiful and has a gorgeous function room..It would be a once in a lifetime experience for most no doubt,...It would be an Event for sure xQ

  • On_Safari

    On_Safari

    9 years ago

    Quoting 'Qefenta1' Maybe a hotel with a beautiful staircase for the masquerade ball. Perhaps a Venitian theme ? ..how possible would the Versace be? XQ But how in hell do I start negotiations with my usual "It's an adult dating site, nothing like RSVP ....." haha

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    They are Italian? La dolce vita and all that๐Ÿ˜ˆ...omg,how amazing would it be ๐Ÿ˜˜ xxQ

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