xcentrix

xcentrix

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returning the pleasure

August 27 2015

Ok... I had a play session with a new guy the other night I got him off twice... I got nothing... when I ask later (via text when he'd left) why he didn't get me off he told me I am expected to ask or state the expectations at the beginning of the play.... can people please give there opinion as to if is this usually the expectation they find?

Comments

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    totally selfish to me Its not a one way street.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    I'm gobsmacked... I've never heard anything like it before. My 'expectation' when I play with someone is that we'll both get off - it's implicit. What did he expect you to do? Put your hand up at the start of play and say "Please Sir, can I also get off tonight"? This person sounds totally selfish at least, and at best like someone making excuses for being inadequate. Sorry you had that experience OP, I'd like to think that he's very much in the minority.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    It's pleasure for both or hit the road buddy. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    I like getting a guy off. I gave a guy a full body massage and a " happy ending" once and the thrill for me was getting him off. So you should establish what you want before playtime?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    oh my !! My Dear sounds to me like you played with a selfish c....t ! You really should screen better you know that !! 😉 - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    It's a shame you didn't have a pleasurable experience also. I would like to think that most guys enjoy pleasing their partners, just as much as being pleased themselves. Chalk it up as a substandard, second-rate experience and I hope your next new encounter with a guy in much more satisfying.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    If you could get your people to send your terms to my people then maybe we could do lunch before signing a contract.Having said that I do acknowledge that you are not amused by this and have every right to be unamused. Speaking for myself bringing a woman to orgasm is not the easiest thing I've done and it pleases me to do so. I know women who don't mind if they don't get the big O every time. An interesting topic thanks for posting.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    when you play......it goes both ways.... - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    I believe mutual pleasure is not something that needs to be discussed beforehand, unless it's a business transaction. In my opinion this guy treated you like a free prostitute and his behaviour was disgraceful and completely unacceptable. I must say though that I'm equally surprised that you waited until he'd left to voice your dissatisfaction. You deserve a hell of a lot better, so demand exactly that next time. :-)

  • Hottie1

    Hottie1

    9 years ago

    I've been in your position, I've experienced it twice and in fact one guy left so quickly afterwards I didn't get to voice my opinion then and there! I have learnt, but no one needs to be told, it's about mutual pleasure. There are circumstances Koko where I don't want anything in return, I agree and I actually have to tell my lovers 'lie back and enjoy'! OP, considering it was your first play and he didn't reciprocate in your pleasure, sorry no second chances from me! I don't believe it's a first time/nervous thing, it's a selfish thing to do! Mary xx

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Sounds like a keeper

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Always want to have an orgasm,particularly if it's a new lover it's just nice for us to get to know each others bodies...some men take it as failure if I don't but if an orgasm with a lover is important to you then why not give them a helping hand..literally...every woman is different ...I have only ever met one man who instinctively knew exactly what to do..he was amazing...I don't necessarily think your new l over w as selfish but you needed to have a conversation in the bedroom..did you enjoy the rest of the time you spent with him OP,if so perhaps he deserves a second chance xxFreya

  • AnnieWhichway

    AnnieWhichway

    9 years ago

    have to dodge my flying stiletto on his way to the exit.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    I have never worked out how a guy even gets pleasure if there is none reciprocated. Just a boring load to deliver otherwise. Don't have expectations as such except a pleasant time enjoyed by both.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    just as long as next time he knows it's all about you. Tell him to bring a wetsuit and a snorkel. 😈

  • lovman8

    lovman8

    9 years ago

    Don't you realize woman that you are so fortunate to have a man honour you by giving you his dick. He bestowed on you the pleasure of receiving his semen, what more could you possibly want??????????

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Quoting 'Stirry' when you play......it goes both ways.... - Posted from rhpmobile Does that mean I get to fuck you up the ass too?

  • compressor

    compressor

    9 years ago

    I think that sucks big time. would he not enjoy getting you off

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    I am no stud nor great lover , but I do try my best to make the effort. Nothing better for the self asteem and confidence than being asked for a return visit, it is hard enough getting to the meet for a coffee stage let alone play time. Sounds like his attitude towards his lovers needs more than just a little adjusting. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • Twisted_Mister

    Twisted_Mister

    9 years ago

    Thing I've heard of in some time. Of COURSE there's an expectation that the girl gets off, OP - it appears as though you've encountered one of the true duds of our time. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    its guys like this that spoil it for the majority of other men who do care about your pleasure. My experience has been that guys who are interested in developing FWBs are far more genuine about mutual pleasure. Its not for everyone but that's how I avoid the one-offs duds. JMO Pity your door didn't spank him on the way out! LG

  • CumOnRound

    CumOnRound

    9 years ago

    I am sorry that you had to experience that. I agree that this was incredibly selfish and even more so in his response. I would think the things you would need to "arrange" prior would be more than simply "should we both get off?" I would think that was a given, while anal fisting on the first date may require some discussion prior! I understand you waiting and asking later. If I have to ask for my orgasim... it is not going to be enjoyable and possibly non-existent. Like Freya said also, orgasm does not always happen and that is cool, as is offering a helping hand , but if he doesn't even make an attempt to ensure your pleasure.. well, that just seems a bit one sided.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Hi Op, Isnt that a bit like being invited out for a dinner date and then only he gets to eat...Then he says Oh you wanted eat too well you should have said that in advance... FFS it is certainly implied that every one is entitled to some fun !! LC

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Younger guy? Its just bad manners - its ladies always first in our view!! - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    what does that exactly mean.. he couldn't get you to reach orgasm ?

  • Tall74nHard9

    Tall74nHard9

    9 years ago

    have given their considered opinions. Can only add - what's good for the goose is good for the gander (or vice versa). Tall

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    What a selfish so and so! I had a new lover last night and it was one of my most satisfying experiences. It was obvious his intent was to leave me totally satiated. His efforts were certainly rewarded ;) - Posted from rhpmobile

  • Lovinit28andKC72

    Lovinit28andKC72

    9 years ago

    I wouldn't be going back for a repeat performance, that's for sure.... It has to be about both of you, not just one of you, that's just bad manners.....💋

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Had a nice session a few weeks back .. but she's the one who got off , not me .. No particular reason just one of them days when it went pear shape for me... No big deal.. For her.. the doggy position set her off... I was happy to see how long I could keep her bumping along. ...hehe.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    I have more enjoyment in getting others off then myself I have hooked up with guys and girls and at times I have meet up just to suck there cock or lick there pussy and I always get them off and other times I have had sex and not got them there before me but o don't cope that I have to finish them

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    I've got nuffin lol. Seriously I'm shaking my head wondering how he an think that's ok. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    When I said "mutual pleasure", I didn't mean there should necessarily be an expectation that both partners reach orgasm, but definitely that they both leave satisfied. I can be just a fulfilled when I don't come during a sexual encounter, but when the OP said she got nothing I read it as her not even receiving much attention at all. That is what I find a disgrace, though maybe the OP would clarify?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Giving is the ultimate pleasure, to see and hear your partner in crime enjoying foreplay and oral is the biggest high you can get.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    I read it differently then to most of you"when he didn't get me off"i understood it as they must of played together for some time as she got him off twicethe lady didn't climax, text followed afterwards and made her feelings known.

  • AnnieWhichway

    AnnieWhichway

    9 years ago

    I think his response sums him up as the arse that he was. What you have to have a booking for an orgasm? If he was half decent he would have apologised and been upset at the outcome. Although a decent guy would have discussed her wishes whilst there and tried his best.

  • madotara69

    madotara69

    9 years ago

    Quoting 'Leo_girl'Pity your door didn't spank him on the way out! LG When you get to talking all dirty and

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    again i must be the odd one out..Not every woman i have been with have i been able to get her to orgasmto be honest the last i was with - over 2 yrs meeting up once or twice a week i would say more often than not it wasn't achievednot matter how much effort or discussion was put in - by both

  • sensexual

    sensexual

    9 years ago

    You said that you got him off twice, I get that sometimes the first time can be very fast but generally the second time takes a little longer. This indicates to me that you have spent meaningfully intimate time together, no matter what the duration. The fact that you were both keen to continue after the first time and start things up again tells me you were both into it and enjoying yourselves and each other. I am not sure it is true to say you got nothing?? I also do not think it fair to judge this guy as being inconsiderate or having let the entire species of men down. She has not said it was over too quickly, that he left abruptly or that he was rude or aggressive, she merely said that she did not get off. You have indicated you texted him as way of communicating afterwards. This in my view is fraught with danger as texting can be interpreted so many ways. Not sure it is supportive to you to interpret his response as anything other than helpful, as he is only pointing out, that you were not clear. Maybe his reply was not put as tactful as he may have intended but I don't think he was trying to be offensive, if anything maybe a little defensive as he probably recognised your dis satisfaction, so his ego may have been a little bruised, especially if he thought he did a stella job. He would have been better off apologising explaining he didn't realise you were not happy and tell you that he will make it up next time, this would have been smarter as at least that way he was a chance of getting laid again. Maybe you should tell this by having an actual conversation, it could make all the difference between you both. I think it is much easier to understand some ones energetic intention when talking to them and opening up a light conversation but I did not read he was not prepared to accommodate expectations, only that they had not been made clear. I agree that it is implied that when we spend time with someone it is generally about mutual pleasure however that can be a very open to perspective interpretation. So I agree that declaring exactly what you want is important, weather that be at the start or during to event. Chances are if you had of done this he would have been only too happy to accommodate, particularly if given a little bit of guidance to what you wanted him to do and how to do it, this can be difficult to know sometimes on a first meet. Try not to make this guy wrong rather use it as an experience to become a better lover yourself by helping your partners understand exactly what you like. Chances are, given the fact you did spend meaningful intimate time together, he was unaware of your dis satisfaction until your text. Finally I would like to say that every person we encounter is generally our equal and brings with them the very thing we need to assist us to grow and learn. Maybe your lesson is speaking up and his is how to communicate what he really feels. The fact you are posting on here tells me you guys like each other and you did in fact enjoy aspects of the experience. Maybe your expectations were not met so my suggestion is get him back and have fun making this right.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Isn't this a sex site? And all the women are free hookers? /end sarcasm

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    I think what Annie meant is that when the OP told 5he guy that he had left her unsatisfied, a decent response would have been an "I'm sorry, I didn't realise", not a "What's your problem, you should have told me what the rules were before we fucked" one.

  • discreet37fun

    discreet37fun

    9 years ago

    Bugger ... I feel for you. Personally I luv getting the lady off first. It's a 2 ways street but treat a lady as she should and show her the respect she deserves ... we know us mere males cannot orgasm as often as the ladies so it makes sense she comes first.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    As the male i always ensure the lady has a number of foreplay orgasms before anything else happens. I dont actively seek self gratification. If it happens it happens if not then i get my pleasure from pleasing my partner.

  • AnnieWhichway

    AnnieWhichway

    9 years ago

    Yes Meander has the right interpretation. I realise some women cant always get there. Should have put the word satisfaction in there instead maybe😊

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    What a horrible pig man. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Reciprocate the pleasure :) xx - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Yeh totally selfish. ...should be pleasurable for both of u....isnt that the idea of being here....if its great for both..then do it again and again. .😊 - Posted from rhpmobile

  • blackbig

    blackbig

    9 years ago

    A pleasure of seeing a lady pleased is what it matters. OP, the guy had no intention to please you ...it would be a courtesy to find out how , what , when you desire it before he put his pants on🙀 - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    How could any guy not think that the woman would want to be pleasures. I thought our gender was way past that. As a man its really dissapointing. Sorry ladies.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    I as a gentleman feel the need to make a woman screen, dip her nails into my skin and fade away into deep deep pleasure. I get off by doing so, therefore the next time play with a real gentleman. Guys like him are not to be called gentleman. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    if it aint working for you tell me what you like and I will not rest until you are totally satisfied

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Im always here for the two way street! Young and fit and full of energy , selfish people like that can smb - Posted from rhpmobile

  • madotara69

    madotara69

    9 years ago

    Quoting 'Whateverway' Yes Meander has the right interpretation. I realise some women cant always get there. Should have put the word satisfaction in there instead maybe😊 Even satisfaction needs to be felt with tone of voice or being particularly in tune with a partner and more so, times for better known, a work in progress. We've had most of our playmates pause if for having hurt Tara or upset her, unsure and needed some assistance which is cool, Tara is off with the fairies and I know her well and truly enough and with confidence to let the guy know she is enjoying herself, if she knees him in the head, it's his fault for not getting out of the throws as she goes bonka's, a passion in her, in self, the world disappears, if she is all quiet.. something ain't right which is of more concern, but I know her and we are a work in progress. Tara has told me, that she has not had an orgasm but still enjoyed the sex, as many women have mentioned in the forums, so not of concern, maybe content. Jules raised a point reasoned from his view, now I have one of mind...Maybe if a guy has not been sexually active, be it for whateva, he might not maybe know if the woman has got off, yet I know that when Tara get's me off, she get's off for me herself and she is surprised of herself by how much she shows it vocally and with playful spirit her body moves about in ways very nice, I like to tell her of the spice. So for one way in reasoning, maybe the OP gave the guy the impression she got off fine and his self twice, satisfaction until the text. Personally I would never argue to be sure of self or anyone else with toneless text, a conversation and nature of mood, is it a joke he was having with her ? did he feel out of place reading her words? did he just throw off.. first thing comes to mind unsure, maybe comprende here now as such, feeling and felt....the text tone as Jester, toyed as the fool ? I give the guy benefit of doubt and can-not agree that he meant anything of it as nasty or less a man should be, in something that should have been spoken for a third degree and the bloke has been arsehole'd to breakfast squared away, before the daily lynching crave. Mado Mado Tara xx

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Hell no , that's selfish in my opinion . I personally enjoy getting the other person off , it's a turn on. Pretty well guaranteed mutual pleasure in return , and heightens the passion. Sorry to hear that didn't happen in your case :( And their is nothing wrong with making the woman climax first with your tounge , a guy doesn't need to be pleased first that's for sure. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Sounds to me you played a Lawyer and he expected everything in writing..............

  • fun4us_withu

    fun4us_withu

    9 years ago

    There isn't anything more sexy than to watch a women cum... Some women are more delicate and it takes time ... - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    It comes down to personal satisfaction. Yep i still enjoy sex if my partner doesnt cum. BUT it is soooo much better when she does. Especially if she is a new friend. Feeling the way they respond to your touches, seeing what sounds you can get them to make. Leaving them breathless... How else will you get invited back for round 2. In shortchanging the OP he burnt that bridge. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • just4fun8388

    just4fun8388

    9 years ago

    Thats not on Unless you say I just want to get you off, then of course it is for all parties to climax and enjoy the situation That's bloke is just selfish - Posted from rhpmobile

  • erotictouch4u

    erotictouch4u

    9 years ago

    Quoting 'Meander' I believe mutual pleasure is not something that needs to be discussed beforehand, unless it's a business transaction. In my opinion this guy treated you like a free prostitute and his behaviour was disgraceful and completely unacceptable. I must say though that I'm equally surprised that you waited until he'd left to voice your dissatisfaction. You deserve a hell of a lot better, so demand exactly that next time. :-) No next time for him. ET xox

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    I meant next encounter, different guy.

  • patch4733

    patch4733

    9 years ago

    A woman also needs to tell a man what pleasures her. Most men do try, and, enjoy a woman response. If this does not work take your pleasure and treat it as a learning experience. The journey is not always smooth, Unfortunately. Do not expect all guys to be intuitive.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    When you do a awesome job , by satisfying a lady you normally get another invite. What's more beautiful than a woman who is satisfied. And you know that it was your handy work.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Literally, I always make sure the woman is well satisfied, and i find that the attention is returned in spades. Not much of a MAN if you ask me. No pun intended with the subject line!!!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Personally I prefer to get her off first (at lest once), then I get my chance. I cannot think of anything better than going down on a woman and hearing her, feeling her and tasting her. I think it a big part of the experience.Thinking about it is making me horny.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Should always be for the both of you to have a good time.... whether it be social or sexual, no one wants to feel as though they were left out. So I suppose being in the sexual nature, after you have given someone your trust and respect and of course assume that you have gained the other person's trust and respect as well....it is not too much to ask for a shared pleasurable experience. However, some people may view this site as merely a 'hook up' site and not expect anything more than getting off.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    who doesn't love going down on a woman!!!!

  • brizzyguylooking

    brizzyguylooking

    9 years ago

    the first thing is to make sure a lady orgasms before you even think about taking the skin boat to the tuna farm!! for me that's more enjoyable then ejaculating! so when I do cum its a lot more intense knowing the partner has been pleasured as well!!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    How totally selfish, certainly not worth a second thought!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Ditch the Bastard....What a croc of shit is his reply.....If he was any sought of bloke he would have started the pleasuring on you.......Just my thoughst

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    A leading women's magazine had an article about this and of course a survey. It found that a good 50% of women dont get a happy ending on the first session whereas men do 95% of the time. The sexologist suggested that this could be a number issues, stemming from both sexes. Men not knowing and the women themselves not knowing there own bodies. I know this will cause ripples but I believe a little sex training and learning about your own body can make orgasm so easy that you can cum in minutes and multiples thereafter inclusive of squirting Os. The techniques and philosophy is simple. Then once the body and mind is trained and strong, its never about missing out but more about please stop I can't have another. I would hope that most rhpers are of the philosophy that"she cums first", its just manners 😊😊😊 Mr Funcouplexxx

  • patch4733

    patch4733

    9 years ago

    We sho.uld not assume that every male will know those key spots in our bodies that help us along the journey to orgasm. If this is a first meet, then, why dont we show them. We reap the benefits. If this does not work, then, hit the road Jack.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    It also works the other way too. I have pleasure my partner many many times with nothing in return. But don't worry its my choice, I love making her reach her big orgasm, thats enough reward for me most times. Weird i know. Lol

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    Very selfish, that's no way to leave a woman.... - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    9 years ago

    did he state HIS expectations of cumming before play started? Sounds like someone with very few social skills or care factor for their partner. It's all about them don't you know!!! LG

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    Wow, thats where I get the most satisfaction, knowing she has enjoyed a most pleasurable and satisfying experience at my hands! - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    Wow! Being able to see the other side of the coin is a rare and precious quality.. I take my hat down to you for your post...it is mature, wise and assumes a level of emotional intelligence that is a rare gem inn today's world... I feel I have grown by reading it...thank you

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    Just a selfish prick. All parties should experience the pleasure Not just half a job

  • readycantwait

    readycantwait

    8 years ago

    just a excuse from a inconsiderate selfish rotten person.......my main obligation is to satisfy the other

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    He doesn't know the pleasure of totally spoiling a female and see her fulfilled and happy :)

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    What a selfish prick. A true gentleman always lets the lady cum first....and second....and third.....!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    I always say, ladies come first.

  • codsworth

    codsworth

    8 years ago

    the fucking nerve of this guy unbelievable stupid selfish pricks like this make it so hard for the rest of us i am sorry you had to experience that xcentrix its always ladies first in my book and reading through the comments im not alone in my upset and disgust in my last play time, the lady had gotten off twice before i had finished undressing getting her off is why we are here so even if she leads the show and ladies first wasnt on the table, then its ladies second what he did, the only time thats acceptable is if the lady has requested it very specifically i have only ever had that request a few times in my life and it was very specific each time when it happened i was sure to double check and make sure they were happy with just giving before i left point him to this thread tell him is an asshole move on to someone who will appreciate you properly

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    Not weird at all. I love giving pleasure....it gets me off. As long as its established before play. Nothing is weird as long as both parties are agreeable x

  • Cq_cplPlay

    Cq_cplPlay

    8 years ago

    Such a shame that you had to spend wasted time with a boy, next time find a man that doesnt need an invite.

  • Tazedevil63

    Tazedevil63

    8 years ago

    Its called mutual pleasure .... Had one dick blame me when he called back for a follow up visit , after I got him off twice . He said it was the way he rolled and that I was not ready for him .... Needless he never got another roll lol

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    Sorry to hear that. He sounds a little bit selfish and IMO should have returned the favour.For me going down on a woman and making her cum is the best pat of a session ;)But I guess we all have different like and dislikes...

  • jamesb008

    jamesb008

    8 years ago

    should be mutual pleasure, sorry to hear you had some selfish play, you were very generous finishing him off again before he had even finished you off once!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    Expectation is that everyone leaves satisfied....Maybe he should have used his tongue a bit more to get her to cum if he wasn't able to satisfy her needs

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    I don't let her go down till after I've gotten her off as many times as she can handle or until she wants actual sex then I feel like it's ok for me to get off. Much prefer to get her off a few times first though.

  • Newday10

    Newday10

    8 years ago

    Xcentrix he is one selfish piece of work , I was always bought up Ladies first that includes in bed , too me there's nothing better than giving a nice massage then performing oral until the lady had a couple of organisms , I then find the lady just wants to give you maximum pleasure in return . Don't invite him back ever !!!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    sorry matey your pleasure needs to be fulfilled aswell selfish lovers should be shot

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    Nothing like pleasing a lady first!

  • compressor

    compressor

    8 years ago

    that sucks. there is pleasure in giving please so don't understand what happened to you. could at least try

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    Sorry but your friend missed the mark. I always make sure my girls has at least 1 orgasming before I get mine. I find it far more arousing knowing she is pleased and happy to return the favour.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    8 years ago

    My personal pleasure is to experience the female partners orgasm first. There is so much lust devolpment from that. Sure it is a little of your own orgasm denial for a while but what fun when she comes and then it is your turn. The female orgasm is a total turn on to me.