M47
Chris Gayle
January 05 2016
Comments
-
RHP User
9 years ago
it was incredibly tacky, particularly on tv.It also showed her no respect and contempt for her profession, another rock star with an attitude problem.
-
RHP User
9 years ago
...isn't a good excuse for being a cocky wanker, in my opinion.
-
RHP User
9 years ago
I was a bit taken aback when I saw the interview live. A touch of humour with a dash of sleaze and how great am I, not what I expected of Gayle. Fair enough out and about but as a sportsman maybe a little tacky. I did read this morning some interesting comments. This is not the first time it has happened to her, Dwayne Bravo has made comments and when she was with fox sports covering the a league it happened with Tim Cahill. The comment I did find most interesting is as a sport that is driven at families she was chosen over many applicants that had big sports backgrounds but like many glamour sports it seems looks was chosen over quality sports interviewing. But I have come to expect this from the major tv companies showing sport.
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Agree with Summer Solstice on this 100%Unprofessional, sleazy and not what one should expect from highly paid role model to young people.If it was a joke, it wasn't funny.
-
RHP User
9 years ago
It's her fault,she is just wayyy too pretty and he just couldn't help himself xxFreya
-
RHP User
9 years ago
You could see her cringe and how uncomfortable his comments made her feel. His attempt at an apology was pretty poor brushing it off and a joke saying that its been blown out of proportion. Men who disrespect women just don't get what the problem is and the impact their careless comments have. It was nice to hear the comments made by James Sutherland putting things into context ... "it is Chris Gayle's workplace and it is Mel McLaughlin's workplace and boarders on harassment and it is inappropriate in cricket and inappropriate in a workplace". I don't think the $10,000 fine will actually change Chris's thought processes. Dwayne Bravo's flirting comments weren't much better. LG
-
RHP User
9 years ago
I remember when Mel was a commentator with the A League, she was not averse to a bit of innuendo banter with the lads then. So Im surprised this offended her. They know what he is like so Im thinking they were hoping for a bit of contraversy. He played it out, they both got publicity, the fine goes to charity, so wins all round. Storm in a teacup. Just my opinion of course.
-
RHP User
9 years ago
$10,000 is nothing for him, nor is it a deterrent for any future cricketer (or athlete); it needs to be stamped out.......the only way to do it is hit them where it hurts....BIG fines ! they'll soon get the point that it won't be tolerated.
-
sweetgem
9 years ago
Just think they can behave however they want to be because, they think they are so big a deal to the world! It's the same with those who make the statement of "do you know who I am?"!........."do I look like I care about who you are" is the gesture I often give to those arrogant human beings 😛 Of course, Chris Gayle's behaviour is unprofessional and not acceptable, especially on live TV, but what can we expect from an arrogant person?! Or perhaps he thinks he has a sexy sense of humour? 😝 - Posted from rhpmobile
-
Twisted_Mister
9 years ago
It offended a lot more people around the country than it did Mel...... I'm certainly not saying he wears a halo, but it's not as if he asked her out the back for a blow job. I'm also not saying it was right, but I do think the reaction was overblown Ian Chappell, of all people wanted him banned!!!! - Posted from rhpmobile
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Regardless of who the woman was,he behaved in a non professional and disrespectful manner xxFreya
-
RHP User
9 years ago
It seems to me that a significant part of the problem with celebrity (and celebrities) is that people eventually become too isolated from normal people and the experience of life in the real world. Many become surrounded by enablers and sycophants who utterly fail to offer appropriate advice and guidance. All people are able to think and fell things as they please, but ought to use some discipline as to what thoughts they put to voice. Unfortunately there are many people in those world utterly lacking CDF.* * CDF is an old Navy term meaning "Common Dog F*ck." ie you don't have to teach a dog how to f*ck!
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'Twisted_Mister' It offended a lot more people around the country than it did Mel...... I'm certainly not saying he wears a halo, but it's not as if he asked her out the back for a blow job. I'm also not saying it was right, but I do think the reaction was overblown Ian Chappell, of all people wanted him banned!!!! - Posted from rhpmobile but if you go back and watch the video ... you might notice that after his comment about her eyes she stops looking at him eye to eye. Body language says that she is at the very least embarrassed by it. LG
-
RHP User
9 years ago
I was simply going to say that, imo the journalist was trying to do her job and he put her in a very difficult position to say the least. . After watching the video, I'm inclined to say, it looked to me like the journalist was polite and focused initially. Took the first comment that he got to have the interview her with reserved emotion, was tight lipped but still polite after his next comments which she tried to avoid by averting, and dropping her gaze. After his last comment about blushing, she actually commented twice, first quietly while still looking down and then with a shake of her head, bringing the microphone to her mouth to say more clearly that she was not blushing. Then she returned her eyes to his face and got on the interview back on track before he made one last comment about her eyes. She looked annoyed but still managed a smile as she closed the interview, while moving away from him as fast as possible... but not before he made physical contact with her shoulder and had a little laugh instead of the instant apology he could have offered. . Blown out of proportion? I think he owes the journalist a public apology. She’s the one who has a problem and however he meant it he went way over her professional boundaries. . Peachy
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Time for the world to harden up a bit. It was a joke and she should be flattered, if she was upset then fair enough he owes her the apology he gave. It's got nothing else to do with anyone else at all.
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Its unacceptable behaviour but given that hes known for being like that and she is a professional, she should have been ready to deal with a situation like this. A bit like being told you are interviewing Charlie Sheen and expecting tea and scones and chatting about the weather. One thing is for sure, everyone know who they are now!
-
RHP User
9 years ago
there's as much uproar over Maria Sharapova telling the male reporter she missed his question cos she was admiring his form. At least Gayle answered the question. Will be interesting if there is as much uproar or once the roles are reversed its all ok?
-
RHP User
9 years ago
she was gaggin for BBC........ She just didn't know it at that point :p - Posted from rhpmobile
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Not to say what Gayle did was not wrong but have double standards people. Nuala Hafner of Sunrise did something equally or even worse than Gayle and no one battered and eye lid about it Just saying https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdNH7eGdyTM
-
RHP User
9 years ago
(Firstly, please excuse the typos in my earlier post - failure to proof read – I rushed to avoid recent timeout issue).I saw Gayle's press conference this morning, followed on immediately by his team’s CEO, and another interview with the CEO later this afternoon. I thought these somewhat poor in that Gayle's "apology" lacks even he thinnest veil of sincerity. In fact his response to one of the female reporters' questions might be considered openly contemptuous!Even more surprising to me in some ways, were the statements of Stuart Coventry (Melbourne Renegades’ CEO) today...In summary (paraphrased):(a) Gayle was indeed apologising freely and of his own volition (in spite of the appearance of the Airport press conference),(b) Gayle had been unable to make contact to apologise last evening (due to after-match formalities, and in spite of the opportunity to apologise immediately the offence/embarrassment/humiliation was caused, and Mel McLaughlin’s body language clearly conveys her displeasure),(c) At it’s root, Gayle’s comments stemmed from “…a cultural indifference…” (Coventry’s own words. Did Coventry mean “differences between Jamaican and Australian expectations with regards workplace and/or sexual harassment”, or might this be a Freudian slip on Coventry’s part? Is Coventry really saying Chris Gayle is indifferent to this modern Australian cultural expectation? This might lend weight to the perception Gayle’s apology was mere formality/lip service, and was offered only under duress).(d) The team has (in the short period of its existence) built a culture where it is understood by all team members that such behavior is unacceptable,(e) Having "done a fair bit of history and research today", the team officials consider Gayle has displayed professionalism in the past month or so of competition and they believe such an event is unlikely to recur. Therefore a fine of $10,000 in match fees donated to the Jane McGrath Foundation is adequate/appropriate.(f) When asked what sanctions might apply were Chris Gayle to transgress, Stuart Coventry had no answer except to say they would need to consider that should it occur. This begs further questions in my mind and casts doubt over each of the previous points Stuart Coventry had made.For example: If indeed the Melbourne Renegades had developed adequate policies and procedures in respect of acceptable behaviour (including sanctions for failure to comply), it is highly unlikely last night’s interview will have transpired in such manner. Surely too, Stuart Coventry will not have been blindsided by the question as to what happens if Chris Gayle does err once again (?)I love a topic I can really get my teeth into and whilst I could go on, I won’t… except to say, “If only he’d used a little CDF!”
-
RHP User
9 years ago
My post above is primarily intended to express my own opinion that there are more aspects to this story than much of the mainstream media have discussed today, and to elicit others' thoughts on those other aspects in addition to the comments which actually sparked the furore.
-
RHP User
9 years ago
I think this gave some people a great opportunity to get up on a soapbox and do some self-promotion by attaching themselves to this story - which isn't much of a story IMO except for an idiot playing his persona at the wrong time on camera. It wasn't appropriate _during_ an on air interview. Everyone knows you don't say anything on air that isn't just the same boring old sports cliches. I think there has been a lot of overblown reaction to this though, the carry on that he should be banned is ridiculous, and 10k is more than sufficient IMO. The articles attaching all sorts of extra meaning to it are simply nonsensical and searching for fodder to manufacture outrage (and get page clicks and a fee for an article). It wasn't an attempt to keep women in their place and away from the sports ground, it's just a byproduct of a dumbass choosing an innappropriate moment to make an advance. Those articles remind me of highschool poetry overanalysis, assigning meaning where the author did not intend it.
-
lovman8
9 years ago
Is definitely not appropriate in a live interview. How would he have responded to a male interviewer? Very differently! The man needs to take a good look at his behaviour!
-
RHP User
9 years ago
of Hockeyroo fame, interesting tweets and a bold stance to take given the way sports selections can be manipulated even if you're not technically breaching any social media policy. I thought the reporter handled herself well with Gayle, and in subsequent interviews.
-
RHP User
9 years ago
he clearly thought he was entertaining. You can clearly see that in his approach..... Was it appropriate?? Fuck no. She was talking to him in a professional capacity, which was obvious, and should've been met with the same professionalism. Is he a sexist pig??? Nahhh....he chose the wrong approach at the wrong time....haven't we all done this at some point?? *coughrandomguysmessagesonrhpcough* Was it worth $10,000??? Mmmmm, fuck knows.... - Posted from rhpmobile
-
Twisted_Mister
9 years ago
He was laughing as he said it. Clearly a joke and not a serious proposition. She has previously back and forthed with innuendo with players from other sporting teams in the past. He publicly apologised, God knows why and was fined $10000. The BBL is designed to be a lighter form of commentary than the Tests or one day series matches, evidenced by one of the commentators who made a show of the size of Gayle's 'chop' straight after. The professionally outraged strike again. Mel herself downplayed it this morning. - Posted from rhpmobile
-
Freaky_Fun
9 years ago
Am l the only female on the planet that didn't find it offensive? I watched it live and didn't give it another thought until the hoo ha this morning. He's a West Indian cricketer what did you expect. Who cares. If 'baby' was the only thing l got called when l went to work I'd be stoked because apparently getting called a f***ing c**t nearly every shift is acceptable because that's part of my job and no one says anything about that. Maybe it's just me but l think we need to be worrying about the real world problems not trivial politically correct crap.
-
MsSuperFoxy
9 years ago
Well Chris Gayle does have a history and track record with female journalist.... Give it some time... It's cricket season...at least it's not Warne this time. I am happy his fine is going to a great cause - Jane McGrath Foundation. Ms. McLaughlin accepted Chris Gayles apology - and wants to move on... So who is Chris Gayle again??? Ms Foxy
-
shag_well
9 years ago
I remember Jana Vendt interviewing Dustin Hoffman , he commented that she had the most amazing eyes , left her speechless and ruined the interview for her in a professional manner . Most people though it was gold ,now days a lot of people would say that he disrespected her . With the current storm in a tea cut it just show's how insecure many people are about not being politically correct .We are going to end up in a very sterile, dull world with no humour .
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Why do I feel like there may me more to this story?Watch the Dwayne Bravo video and see the comments re blushing from the other commentators.Clearly Bravo and Gayle are mates. Is there some connection? Maybe one put the other up to it?Maybe she dose have an affection for some BBC?You have to love a conspiracy theory!
-
Tall74nHard9
9 years ago
Quoting 'Twisted_Mister' He was laughing as he said it. Clearly a joke and not a serious proposition. She has previously back and forthed with innuendo with players from other sporting teams in the past. He publicly apologised, God knows why and was fined $10000. The BBL is designed to be a lighter form of commentary than the Tests or one day series matches, evidenced by one of the commentators who made a show of the size of Gayle's 'chop' straight after. The professionally outraged strike again. Mel herself downplayed it this morning. - Posted from rhpmobile or you're going to have the entire panel of humourless RHP misandrists on yer tail and chase ya with big sticks yelling "misogynist". Don't ya know humour is not at all allowed !!! Tall
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Miaow.miaow..best laugh I've had all day 😁xxFreya
-
AnnieWhichway
9 years ago
Are contracted for their sporting prowess not their public speaking ability. No amount of media training undertaken by the sporting codes can makeup for an unfortunate lack of IQ which is demonstrated reguarly in the football, rugby and cricket codes. Even tennis and golf of recent times has fine examples.
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Cant believe this made headlines has the world gone mad.cant have light hearted banter with opposite sex unbelievable. - Posted from rhpmobile
-
RHP User
9 years ago
The same day Chris Gayle made a fool of himself another kid was killed from a coward punch. Give that some thought.
-
Tall74nHard9
9 years ago
Blood sucking mosquitoes to a bug-zapper...
-
RHP User
9 years ago
I am not a blogger, I am not seeking to direct traffic, nor am I manufacturing outrage. Perhaps those comments are not being levelled at me (?). I am not even particularly interested in cricket. However, I am particularly interested to learn what others actually think, and to challenge people to consider things from a point of view that may not be available in the mainstream (or Vanilla) world. For my own part, I considered this may be a trait some here might find appealing (in principle at least!)Given the vast sums of money involved in Sport as an industry, and the efforts made to attract sponsors, spectators, licencing agreements etc it truly is high stakes for sporting organisations in this day and age.All Sports have made huge efforts to attract female spectators, so naturally Chris Bayle’s attempt at humour risked unravelling much of the work done in recent years. Bayle’s specific motivation or intent is not the focal point of my posts, or the opinions I have sought to elicit from others.Be patient with me. I am new here. Please let me step you through it more slowly…Organisations comprise people, and so it goes that Organisational culture is never perfect. The success of an organisation may sometimes be more dependent upon the perceptions of its paying customers than the true value they get for their money. Few people will complain if they feel good – even when they suspect they’re not getting the real deal (copy watch Mister/Missus?)When problems of any (and every) kind arise, as they inevitably will, proper resolution requires identification of the root cause. Treat the disease, not the symptoms. Of course, everyone knows that right? (Surely there are no irreconcilable disputes). The incidence of public behaviours deemed inappropriate may be indicative of deeper underlying problems.Professional sportspeople are subject to extremely close and unrelenting scrutiny, and I believe they are frequently also subject to unrealistic expectations. I imagine their experience of life in the spotlight would be quite overwhelming to become accustomed to. If an individual lacks maturity and/or are surrounded by enablers and sycophants, this experience could be enormously damaging in both a personal and professional sense. All of the organisations associated with these individuals have powerful incentive to maintain the positive perceptions of their own paying customers.This is where Melbourne Renegades’ CEO Stuart Coventry’s press comments piqued my interest. Here’s the kicker:Stuart Coventry is a Chartered Accountant who formerly served six years as a General Manager in Gaffney International Licensing. Among other things, GIL handled licensing and merchandising for children’s TV shows and entertainment such as the Wiggles, Bob the Builder, Bananas in Pyjamas and about a hundred others. They charged up to 30% in commissions. BIG BIG bikkies. Yeah, so what you say?Well interestingly, near the time of Coventry’s departure in 2006, GIL began to lose many of their high profile contracts (including the Wiggles). Disputes arose which led to an extensive forensic audit and in 2007, GIL were sued by some eleven entities subject to License Agreements with GIL. Amongst other things, it was alleged GIL had failed in its obligations in respect of those Agreements, including fiduciary duties and incorrect calculation of commissions (in favour of GIL).I do not suggest, or imply Stuart Coventry was responsible. Nor will I recount all of the details here. (Thank f*ck, you say!) There is ample material you can read for yourself from the public record. The upshot of all this was that Gaffney International Licensing went under citing cash-flow difficulties due to loss of business and the costs of the legal battle.Failures of Corporate Leadership, Governance and Culture resulted in massive losses for GIL. This was entirely foreseeable and preventable. I will lay London to a brick there will have been people who realised things were not quite right, but perhaps observed exceptions or shortcomings were not recognized as (even potentially) precipitous.After he left Gaffney, Stuart Coventry was engaged as General Manager, Marketing and Communications at Harness Racing Victoria. During his year there, he states he was to “manage key commercial activities, marketing, analysis of new business growth opportunities...” and that, “Key relationships were with broadcasters, the media, sponsors, government and other racing bodies”.I was unconvinced by the tenor of Stuart Coventry’s press conferences the other day. Given his own prior knowledge and experience, I was surprised how perfunctory and haphazard the appearance of his club’s handling of the matter. It’s a fickle public; mistakes and mis-steps are expensive and potentially catastrophic.I think there usually is much more than meets the eye. (Sometimes much, munch more).Just sayin’…*Any innuendo, sexual or otherwise is purely unintentional. (Deny, deny, deny. Not guilty Your Honour).P.S. FWIW, I’m highly attracted to funny, smart, sophisticated, intellectually provocative women. I now just hope I haven’t blown any chance by appearing to be a smart-arse; )
-
RHP User
9 years ago
On the same day 18 yr old Cole Millar's family turn off his life support and a young father in S.A. battling depression takes his life and those of his young children, this is what people choose to get upset about
-
MrCarrot
9 years ago
That was not banter, just plain rude and uneducated. There is a time and a place for everything. And being black is no excuse!
-
RHP User
9 years ago
hilarious was joke of the day moral high ground flag gets raised to easily these days the world has gone too soft and people are offended too easily might even encourage some young blokes to leave their "safe space" and have a crack at some hot women they maybe lacked confidence in approaching before more serious news happened in the country and people are too worried about a cheesy pickup line from a cricket playa don't blush.
-
swifttall
9 years ago
Or he may as well have asked her out the back for a blow job, he just did it with different words,
-
shucksta
9 years ago
Quoting 'ontology'.. Nor will I recount all of the details here. (Thank f*ck, you say!) There is ample material. Thank goodness for that! Was starting to go soft halfway through all that! :-) Being the BB League, Mel should be entitled to a choice of big willows and a free swing (or two) at CG's nether regions. Proceeds from ticket sales to Mel's favourite charity. A win all around, CG should never feel the urge to repeat the antics.
-
RHP User
9 years ago
No backlash against Maria Sharapova....double standards much?
-
shucksta
9 years ago
Quoting 'Joe_Blake69' On the same day 18 yr old Cole Millar's family turn off his life support and a young father in S.A. battling depression takes his life and those of his young children, this is what people choose to get upset about I acknowledge your point however the subject behaviour (by a role model for some, no less) fosters disrespectful behaviour on many levels; gender, discipline (including self), society conventions and law. One-Punch and other alcohol-fueled violence (verbal as well as physical) are but one radical expression of that level of disrespect for individuals and society.
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Was she flirting with him prior to the camera cross to get a 'better' interview? Still a damn fool thing for a professional to say
-
RHP User
9 years ago
When this happened channel 10 shortly after had a commercial break which had " get me out of here" where Julia Morris says all sorts of innuendo to Chris brown Is there a difference? - Posted from rhpmobile
-
RHP User
9 years ago
He commented that he had heard you had beautiful eyes, so all the other players should be fined 10,000 for talking about it behind her back as how else would he have heard about the hot chic??? Pathetic blowing things out of proportion, every man going out to clubs or on the street if you see an attractive woman dont dare compliment her, we have to now go back to the dark ages and club them over the head and take them back to our caves to feed and look after us. Its not the first and wont be the last time she hears a compliment about her beautiful eyes, he tried to get a rise out of her nothing more. She moved on with it anyway, and the commentators were bragging about his "groin injury" from overuse while he played a prior game so thats ok on national tv to discuss his prowess at taking advantage of silly girls looking for a notch on their bedhead of someone famous. - Posted from rhpmobile
-
Smilingwithfun
9 years ago
Firstly, Gayle did cross the line. From both her time in the A-league & now the cricket, she asks the most banal of questions, showing her total lack of knowledge of sport. Why cant we have a well credentialed female sports journalist do the interviews. We would lose the tacky scenarios.
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Why is this such a big deal but when its the other way, Sharipova flirting with a male reporter, Nula Haefner from sunrise flirting with a guy on the beach, both on live tv no one gave a shit??? Not saying what he did was ok but why dont women get fined for similar behaviour??? - Posted from rhpmobile
-
OkeyDoke45
9 years ago
Regardless of whether he did it as a joke, she was obviously immediately annoyed and affronted. He should have just stopped right there and perhaps offered a bit of an apology. The fact that he tried to forge onward with his silly routine just made him a complete tit.
-
Seachange
9 years ago
Quoting 'Summer_solstice' Tall gives a good example there. Some of the comments mention that Chris Gayle made his comments smiling, so therefore they shouldn't be taken seriously/are not a big deal. Tall made a potentially inflammatory comment about the women here, but did it with a wink. To some here that may make a difference, to others it's same same, and to some it may appear to be an attempt at downplaying the actual words that were said. (Passive aggressive and if anyone balks, the old "It was just a joke" can be used.) Well haha, I'm in stitches. Yep. On the money. I call it OPPORTUNISTIC. You see I was ok for people expressing their opinions either way wrt Gayle's attitude, which I don't condone yet will not lose sleep over. I wont sweat the small stuff. I don't think Gayle thought about his actions and the repercussions too much and just blurted out something stupid at the heat of the moment. As a prev poster mentioned earlier, a bit of self-promotion. I never heard of Gayle before this brouhaha so there, got what he wanted.Gayle reminds me of high school when some jock comes across the high school pretty and his bloods flows south where the cock goes on overdrive and the brain goes on neutral. He blurts out whatever comes to mind, no filter, and later regrets it. Awkward juvenile behaviour. What made me laugh was that Tall saw it as an opportunity to degrade women, again, in the guise of humour. He has omitted is the fact that some men in this thread has also commented AGAINST this behaviour, calling out that Gayle's behaviour is inappropriate! Ergo, does that make them 'misandrists ' as well? Hating their own sex? How does that work?In effect, he has taken this nonsensical issue to a more personal level, turned it around to make it about him and then throw the ineffective low blows. Predictable, transparent and pathetic really... Keep your day job Tall.
-
Seachange
9 years ago
Quoting 'Smilingwithfun' Firstly, Gayle did cross the line. From both her time in the A-league & now the cricket, she asks the most banal of questions, showing her total lack of knowledge of sport. Why cant we have a well credentialed female sports journalist do the interviews. We would lose the tacky scenarios. Simples: She looks hot and is a bonafide cockbait on TV. Similar approach for TV execs when hiring weather presenters to deliver such boring info: hire a knowledgeable looking suited man (not guaranteeing his knowledge of the weather) VS a shapely, hot heavily made up woman in a clingy outfit. Hmmm... I wonder which one will help them retain their market share?
-
melbcpl01
9 years ago
seriously massive over reaction to a harmless bit of flirting and joking with a reporter people realy need to get a life Mrs Melbcpl01
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Hi All, A bit of background first .. I am a manager of 30 odd tradespersons who I have re-inforced with again and again the contemporary requirements of basic respect in the workplace. I have a multi-cultural mix of 18-60 yr old blokes. We discussed this as an example of harrassment in the workplace, and not one of them thought it was acceptable behaviour. I was asked what I would have done if I had found out if one of my guys had behaved that way in the workplace and my response would have been to investigate, suspend for 24 hours and probably place him on a final warning. After the discussion, we all agreed that if it had happened in a pub that the guy would be pulled aside, told him that shit isn't cool and that he needs to apologise ...We also agreed it was a shit line and wished Mel had laughed at him with something like "you get paid squillions for hitting a ball and that's the best line you've got?" ... and make the stupid fucker squirm ... But .. it wasn't a pub ... they were both at work on national TV. The end results are about right apart from the excessive coverage it's getting and the fine should have been more like $50k. I'm assuming his organisation has probably had a stern conversation about bringing the side into disrepute. Just my 5 cents added, have an awesome day !! Steve
-
NightLuva
9 years ago
I'm not a fan of the overly-cocky male who can't read the setting & obvious social signals. I think Gayle's a tosser and social media comments excusing him due to cultural differences are off the mark. Not because we should expect West Indians to automatically adopt our behaviour - there is some difference in culture. But because he's been in the public eye for more than a decade, much of that Aus, UK & India and has been called out for inappropriate behaviour time and again. He was being paid as a hired gun to represent his team & the league. He was captain of his country for a few years. Could you picture Allan Border, Tubby Taylor or Steve Smith doing similar? When he was captain of WI & they loss the quarter finals of the world cup, in the West Indies, he gathered the team around the pool next morning and they partied with rum, cigars, blaring reggae & gyrating g-string clad gals in numbers, with media present. That alone tells us he's a real doofus & up himself. I love a skilful sports star, even an arrogant one (if it's earned), but Vivian Richards, Brian Lara & Malcolm Marshall show us how it's done with class. He then deserted his country's test team to chase dollars - as called out by Sir Garfield Sober in an emotional speech. It would've been poor form to act that way off camera, still in the professional environment of his & Mel's. He could've given a signal of interest when the game was over, in a more private setting, in a more respectful way. He waited until he'd been setup in front of camera, with the crowd and national audience watching and his first ever words to Mel were sleazy and disrespectful of her job - as if talking cricket was beyond a beautiful female. He basically propositioned her, which is sexist, but he did it in a way that suggested he was superior & has special rights. He gloated & laughed & called her 'baby' as she recoiled. Looks like narcissism to me. Maybe I should say what I really think ;)
-
RHP User
9 years ago
I read today that Cricket Australia is looking to ban him from coming back... It was "tongue in cheek" and he's a known larrikin with a colourful sexual prowess. So not sure what they were expecting. Had Mel held her own and maybe commented that he should have concentrated on the ball and not her eyes and he would have hit a tonne then it would have been great banter. Instead it has blown out of proportion. . . . #dontblushbaby
-
girlbicurious
9 years ago
This was not live to air, it was pre recorded. It could have been re done, it could have been deleted, it could have been edited. But NO, this media bunny wanted a story, she wanted to hang the guy out, was it that bad NO. The media are just looking to sensitise us to stupidity. Real Journalists would have redone the question, and get a real quote / story. Unfortunately todays Google reporters are looking for instant fame, and you see she got it at the expense of a sportsman and the politically correct arseholes got a financial benefit. Talk a scalp, lynch him based on a pre filmed media story. Many of these guys are just blokes playing a sport, they are not trained in media skill. We expect far too much. There would literally be posts here about the 1000 muslims that raped and sexually molested 90 german women. But a sportsman that asked a reporter out for a drink, wow, that's big news...NOT
-
Whywoodeneye
9 years ago
Agree totally with you mate. We are becoming far too precious as a society. Is it lost on everyone else that vast numbers of our society would find some of the goings on in this site to be "a little tacky" also? #potkettleblack - Posted from rhpmobile
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'TitaniumFox' Hi All, A bit of background first .. I am a manager of 30 odd tradespersons who I have re-inforced with again and again the contemporary requirements of basic respect in the workplace. I have a multi-cultural mix of 18-60 yr old blokes. We discussed this as an example of harrassment in the workplace, and not one of them thought it was acceptable behaviour. I was asked what I would have done if I had found out if one of my guys had behaved that way in the workplace and my response would have been to investigate, suspend for 24 hours and probably place him on a final warning. After the discussion, we all agreed that if it had happened in a pub that the guy would be pulled aside, told him that shit isn't cool and that he needs to apologise ...We also agreed it was a shit line and wished Mel had laughed at him with something like "you get paid squillions for hitting a ball and that's the best line you've got?" ... and make the stupid fucker squirm ... But .. it wasn't a pub ... they were both at work on national TV. The end results are about right apart from the excessive coverage it's getting and the fine should have been more like $50k. I'm assuming his organisation has probably had a stern conversation about bringing the side into disrepute. Just my 5 cents added, have an awesome day !! Steve Thank fuck I don't work for you lol. And if you took me aside in a pub for complimenting a woman on her eyes and saying we should get a drink you'd be out of line and I'd be asking you for the apology. Sounds like you have a bunch of guys under the thumb who just want to tow the line for fear of reprisals from management to me. Just my 5c.
-
Gallus1951
9 years ago
It was just PLAIN dumb !! He is a Show Pony, has been you years. Someone form his management team or the Renegades, should have coached him better on what is acceptable in 2016. She handled the situation well, full marks to her. The whole thing has been blown way out of proportion, the deep analytical hype on it is off course, trying to say he demeans all female journalists and it is stereo typical, is rubbish, Gayle is to bloody dumb to do that, don't give him credit for doing that. It was old fashioned sleaze, him thinking with his dick.
-
RHP User
9 years ago
I`m a massive cricket fan and having had Gayle play for WA and love watching his power and leadership when He played for West Indies and that night walking off after smashing a heap of runs, crowd roaring, adrenaline pumping walking off to be greeted at the sideline by a interviewer, who happens to be quite attractive, wouldn't you expect Him to be in a bit of a mixed emotions , Don't people make mistakes ? sure if he was vulgar, aggressive but he complimented her on her eyes, Of course anyone's gonna go red, Asked her for a Date and if you read channel 10's first comment and I quote "The broadcaster Network Ten, may have initially found Gayle’s comments “smooth”, according to a now deleted tweet". When working for A league she used to get amongst the banter, it wasn't sexist then. If we want equality I was more offended by the following advert Julia Morris hitting on Chris brown Anyway I get it wrong time wrong place but there are much bigger things in the world that the news dont report on and should be.
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Hmmm, Seems ok for females to crack onto males on TV.... but heaven forbid if a man flirts with a female on TV?!?! WTF? Check out the sunrise lass cracking onto the surfer dude last year and Sharapova at the Tennis virtually the same day!! Where's the outcry for that?!?! Pffftt.. Both males involved in those interviews laughed it off and played along with it...Our media needs a good kick up the butt and get off their high horses!! I wish these PRETENTIOUS IDIOTS would just grow up as well!!! Have fun people, be nice or be quiet! lol!
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'youngrelaxedguy' sure if he was vulgar, aggressive but he complimented her on her eyes, Of course anyone's gonna go red, Asked her for a Date and if you read channel 10's first comment and I quote "The broadcaster Network Ten, may have initially found Gayle’s comments “smooth”, according to a now deleted tweet". I read that tweet as being sarcastic but joking/amused, and they deleted it when they found that they needed to shift the tone to outraged.
-
Glamfan
9 years ago
I just saw it as a ham-fisted off the cuff comment. The only person who looked silly was him, and I cannot see why so many people lost their shit over it.
-
inspirit
9 years ago
No idea, don't care, couldnt give an ounce of fucks. - Posted from rhpmobile
-
RHP User
9 years ago
this is such bullshit seriously. get over it move on im sick of this over kill of pc roles reversed she would of been labelled as brave
-
RHP User
9 years ago
The latest to jump on the bandwagon is Ian Chappell who wants a worldwide ban ! I mean seriously ? Bit late to come to that party isn't it ? Hence the way over the top comments. Enough already.Bowl him an underarm !
-
RHP User
9 years ago
This is not an isolated incident a woman recently complained that he exposed himself to her..and other cricketers have said ..I think David Warner in particular,that he was well known for his poor behaviour towards women.Perhaps his entertainment value has plummeted and it's step away from the car wreck..xxFreya
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'Freya70' This is not an isolated incident a woman recently complained that he exposed himself to her..and other cricketers have said ..I think David Warner in particular,that he was well known for his poor behaviour towards women.Perhaps his entertainment value has plummeted and it's step away from the car wreck..xxFreya he has said that he has engaged a lawyer and will sue Fairfax for defamation over those claims. Frankly, don't go into a team dressing room and NOT expect to see exposed players. I don't think it helps when people apply regular 'office' workplace conventions to environments that they are not suited to. It is difficult to say much without knowing more details. I think you nailed it in the last sentence though, they're happy to stay onboard with it but once an ill wind blew they not only jumped ship but are trying to hole it below the waterline.
-
RHP User
9 years ago
To be a top world sports person you have to have a giant ego or self belief to match otherwise you just wont cut it & with everyone blowing sugar up their arses some think they can say & do anything. Sadly in this case having a natural sports talent also means having the intelligence of a gnat.She handled it as best she could, he just looked like a total goose. That shouldve been the end of itThen the do gooders typically jumped out, beat their chests & screamed lets hang him from the highest tree.Really who cares arnt there more important things that are news worthy?In a few short years she will still have a fulfilling career while he'll be sat in a bar somewhere telling all his other gnat mates how good he used to be :)
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Only voicing my opinion. Not saying what he did was right, just that it has all been blown out of proportion. If it had been Beckham in his hey day the story would have been totally different. Next time I get complimented by a guy in a bar Ill tell him Im offended and fine him a glass of champagne :)
-
Mischeviouslad
9 years ago
IF any of those who have been critical of Chris Gayle for this... have ever flirted and had a bit of fun with someone...... ...then they are living in a glass house to criticise him. He is a sportsman and entertainer.She is a sports reporter and entertainer. The fact that we're talking about it means it was to many people... entertaining. The fact that it polarises some people shows that there are different views on what we find acceptable.Nothing new there. But heres a question to ask.... would you rather a world where people are dulled and dumbed down, where their personality is suppressed, where people are too afraid to flirt because of a fear of what others tasking offence on behalf of others might think?! Imagine a world where men, do not flirt with women.Or where women do not flirt with men. I do not want to live in that world.
-
RHP User
9 years ago
has a long history of this sort of crap. Re the incident in the locker room....according to reports the woman went in there during practice when nobody should have been in there. CG was there, pulled down his pants and said ''is this what you're looking for?'' There's the gross pitch comment he made to another female journalist. Plus all the others. Just another arrogant POS who's been built up to think he's some sort of god by our ridiculous sport-worshipping culture. ''Ooooooh I can hit a ball, look at me''. Piss off tosser.
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'Mischeviouslad'But heres a question to ask.... would you rather a world where people are dulled and dumbed down, where their personality is suppressed, where people are too afraid to flirt because of a fear of what others tasking offence on behalf of others might think?! Imagine a world where men, do not flirt with women.Or where women do not flirt with men. I do not want to live in that world. AMEN BRUV !
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'Mischeviouslad' But heres a question to ask.... would you rather a world where people are dulled and dumbed down, where their personality is suppressed, where people are too afraid to flirt because of a fear of what others tasking offence on behalf of others might think?! Imagine a world where men, do not flirt with women.Or where women do not flirt with men. I do not want to live in that world. from the 'oh now we're not allowed to flirt at all' strawman. Would you chat up and ask a woman out when she's giving a presentation in her workplace? I know you think you're a gift to women DG, but I would've thought that you know how to be professional when it's required. CG was not having an innocent flirt. He deliberately put a woman on the spot while she was trying to do her job, ignored her actual questions about the game, patronised her with the ''don't blush baby'' bullshit, and generally made her feel uncomfortable on national television. It was a power trip from an entitled, sexist dickhead. Also, I haven't seen anyone mention that fact that he's also married. Maybe they have some sort of open relationship and she doesn't care about his behaviour, but considering the Big Bash is trying to promote itself as a 'family-friendly' sport it's not exactly a good look and I can't believe he hasn't been taken to task by promoters / managers long before this.
-
RHP User
9 years ago
To be honest I think the guy was having abit of a laugh and it got taken way out of hand I mean a $10,000 fine and may be kicked out of the big bash What about the reporters that have flirted live on tv not a say there - Posted from rhpmobile
-
RHP User
9 years ago
She deserved to be treated like a professional in her work environment. This was live on television and not at a pub. People have fought for years to have sexual harassment taken out of the work place and this is no different. I think it's great to see more and more females being employed as sports reporters and they shouldn't have to put up with this shit.
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'freogirl66' She deserved to be treated like a professional in her work environment. This was live on television and not at a pub. People have fought for years to have sexual harassment taken out of the work place and this is no different. I think it's great to see more and more females being employed as sports reporters and they shouldn't have to put up with this shit. What about when the roles are reversed Freo?? Two such occasions where the Sunrise female commentator (mid 2015) and the female Tennis star Sharapover (in the same week)... Wheres you're disgust about them?? Oh thats right, it was the male on the receiving end?? Hmmmmm.... It was a very mild comment and she should've been flogged it off like the men did when it came their way... Guess she wasn't hired for her charisma and people skills like the others?? hahahaha have fun :)
-
RHP User
9 years ago
The topic is Chris Gayle xxFreya
-
RHP User
9 years ago
why isn't giddyup's comment reasonable to include? It seems like a fairly direct comparison and not dragging the thread off-topic. The very nature of feminism/equality and rights is of a comparison - "this group" is not treated equally as "that group", so IMO it doesn't even make sense (is it even possible?) to discuss the topic with isolation to a single group/entity. How about instead of giddyup's phrasing, he instead invokes precedent i.e. "I think CG was not treated fairly because Sharapova made comments to a commentator that were similarly inappropriate and could just as easily constitute sexual harassment, but she was not roasted over the coals". That is a comment about CG, not Sharapova - but how would people respond to that? (I think it makes it interesting because I don't think the old crutch of "privilege" is valid, Sharapova is arguably more powerful than Gayle is) Wouldn't it be more interesting to tackle the comparison than shut it down?
-
Mischeviouslad
9 years ago
Quoting 'Luck_Dragon' I know you think you're a gift to women DG, but I would've thought that you know how to be professional when it's required. A bit of an unwarranted personal attack, don't you think?. A bit angry too, really.
-
RHP User
9 years ago
But in my honest opinion, I think that flirting should always be allowed and tolerated until the object of the admiration makes it clear that there is no interest in pursuing the matter. After this it becomes harassment and that's where I see the line being drawn.
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Isn't that a bit like the old (and now banned thank God) defence against rape: "I knew she'd had sex with other guys so I thought it was looking for it"?It's not just that Gayle's behaviour offended Mel (though it clearly did), it's that it reflects an attitude of disrespect and entitlement towards women that is just not acceptable today. Gale would not have behaved that way towards a male reporter doing his professional job; neither does he have the right to behave so towards any female professional either.I would not have fined him $10,000 - meaningless to him; I would have cancelled his visa. That would have sent the whole team a clear message about behaviour that is not tolerated in Australia.
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'Erostogether' Isn't that a bit like the old (and now banned thank God) defence against rape: "I knew she'd had sex with other guys so I thought it was looking for it"?It's not just that Gayle's behaviour offended Mel (though it clearly did), it's that it reflects an attitude of disrespect and entitlement towards women that is just not acceptable today. Gale would not have behaved that way towards a male reporter doing his professional job; neither does he have the right to behave so towards any female professional either.I would not have fined him $10,000 - meaningless to him; I would have cancelled his visa. That would have sent the whole team a clear message about behaviour that is not tolerated in Australia. we can't know that because Gayle isn't homosexual, so he wouldn't have said that to the reporter - but do you think that "characters" in the sporting arena have never had a bit of fun (to them) with the reporter? "meow game" is a fairly benign but unprofessional way to have fun with the interview.Carry Fisher's continual comments about her GMA interviewers physical appearance were also a way for her to have fun with the interview - though were they "professional"? Can we split the "being unprofessional" from the "sexual harassment", the two don't need to be linked. Even if the flirting was welcomed, it would generally be considered unprofessional (by community standards) on TV - whereas sexual harassment isn't OK in one situation but not in another. I'm going to say I think it is fucking ridiculous to even suggest cancelling a person's visa to a country for this and I'm sick to death of this being something suggested. I don't normally say things like this often on here, but you've got rocks in your head if you're presenting that idea seriously. Cancelling travel visas should only be reserved for the most serious of issues, not, as has recently become the trend "any foreigner that someone doesn't like". Has everyone commenting watched the uncut interview? I saw the clip on TV after it happened, so that's what I've been going off, but I just watched the uncut version on youtube, and the version shown on TV was edited just to focus on the bad bits, and it seemed like the whole interview was him hitting on her in a serious manner. The full clip he says his eye thing at the start, then answers her questions properly. The interesting bit was the TV commentators, they chuckle, they laugh at Mel "scurrying off with rosey cheeks"... and then go into arse-covering mode that Mel's an informed reporter, and that they think Gayle went too far, blah blah. IMO the full clip suggests he was just trying to be a larrikin and that it wasn't serious at all - at the end he pats her back/shoulder was laughing and says "alright, sorry", I see that as a pat on the back and a bit of a "hey, I'm just being funny/fucking around" as she wheeled around and walked off.
-
RHP User
9 years ago
There is a huge difference between a bit of public flirting and rape. Pointless comment.
-
RHP User
9 years ago
The fact that he flirted.......nor would have any issue if the sexes were reversed in the case of Sharipova and the breakfast show weather chick....but it must be said....like all things, there are times and places to engage in it....on the side of a cricket oval, or a press conference, is to me not the time, and not the place, irrespective of the gender polarity.
-
RHP User
9 years ago
He was flirtatious with me and I was responsive. To me, the time and place is irrelevant. If you see someone you find attractive and you feel up to it, take your best shot. You may never get another opportunity then you may never know what might have been.What if the interviewer's reaction had been different? What if she'd said yes I'll have a drink with you?
-
RHP User
9 years ago
It would be interesting if Mel had been short for Melvin, and had instead been a heterosexual man propositioned by Gayle. It's unfair of me for so many reasons to introduce a sex and sexuality issue, but it might, for the majority, have made things a little clearer for people to see that 'Melvin' was doing 'his' job as an interviewer; that he didn't need to then be told not to blush when his pause and his descent of eyes to ground clearly suggested he wasn't impressed with being taken less seriously as an interviewer. Melvin could have been propositioned afterward, after being respected and - who knows - he might well have been open minded to explore things with a handsome Jamaican cricketer.
-
RHP User
9 years ago
If only people got as "upset" at banking and government fraud as they did about ONE guy making comments to ONE woman. Yes, the comments were tacky at best, stupid at worst. But the ONLY person who should be "outraged" or "offended" was Mel herself. Yet even she came out a few days after the incident basically telling people to calm down and that she had already moved on. It was just a case of poor judgment from Gayle yet bankers and politicians that steal from customers or taxpayers never seem to be fined, yet Gayle got 10k for a half joking silly comment ? REALLY ???Has the world gone nuts, or just completely lost it's understanding or priorities ? Maybe even look into the high profile paedophile rings and then compare that to Gayle's comments ? The best comeback Mel could of given was to burn Gayle on live TV by saying "sorry, you're not my type", but then those "offended" by Gayle's comments would of probably turned that into a racist remark and then whinged at Mel because this is the internet and all. So yeah, priorities ??? When will people stop falling for these blatant media blow ups which do nothing but distract the gullible masses from the real issues affecting us all ?
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'DrippingInKink'When will people stop falling for these blatant media blow ups which do nothing but distract the gullible masses from the real issues affecting us all ? I wouldn't see it as a trick by the Bilderbergs or the Illuminati to distract people from stuff, it's just easy fodder for sensationalising and selling the articles/pieces to the media companies; easy filler to generate sound bites for the commentators; and easy fodder for click bait articles, and selling ads as either ratings or page views.
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Mr Ink, sexism is a "real" issue that affects at least half of us ! It is in their face day in day out and I imagine that would become very tiresome very quickly !
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'S_OnTheLoose'Quoting 'DrippingInKink'When will people stop falling for these blatant media blow ups which do nothing but distract the gullible masses from the real issues affecting us all ? I wouldn't see it as a trick by the Bilderbergs or the Illuminati to distract people from stuff, it's just easy fodder for sensationalising and selling the articles/pieces to the media companies; easy filler to generate sound bites for the commentators; and easy fodder for click bait articles, and selling ads as either ratings or page views. You make a fair point, BUT, look at who owns the media and then look at THEIR agenda's. The mainstream media is nothing more than "their" puppet, used to promote the agenda's. Just in the last few days Hillary Clinton was caught red handed with her involvement in over-throwing Ghadaffi to the point she should be locked up for life, yet the mainstream media ignored this because they were too busy talking about Bowie, a 69 year old with cancer that lived a full and prosperous life most could only dream of. Priorities ? Yet Hillary's punishment is more publicity in possibly becoming the next POTUS ?
-
RHP User
9 years ago
She looked demeaned but tried to carry on professionally regardless.
-
RHP User
9 years ago
That if i did that at my workplace id be told to make an apology or be told not to let the door hit my a** on the way out.....very inappropriate especially as it was on live tv....
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Numerous people have objected to the behaviour of Chris Gayle and one has to respect their views I supposeHis comments though were quite mild in my very humble opinionWe should all make an effort to deal with this sort of thing in a more considered and more sensible way
-
MsSuperFoxy
9 years ago
The news just in...Mitchell Pearce! Urinating on someone's lounge and himself- Not Ok! Imitating a sexual act with a dog- Not Ok. Being told to f*ck off and leave- what a disgrace. The person who filmed this got paid big bucks. Ms Foxy
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'SuperFoxxxy' The news just in...Mitchell Pearce! Urinating on someone's lounge and himself- Not Ok! Imitating a sexual act with a dog- Not Ok. Being told to f*ck off and leave- what a disgrace. The person who filmed this got paid big bucks. Ms Foxy mountain out of a molehill. He was drunk off his chops and wet himself, it was an accident not a conscious choice. It wasn't like he just walked into someone's house and pissed on their stuff. (That doesn't make it any less annoying for the lounge owner though) The dog was not harmed in any way, nor even touched in inappropriate areas from the video I saw - he was wearing pants at the time. It was easy news fodder, and unfortunately for all these guys they've removed the "public interest" requirement from defamation laws. The biggest fucker in this story though is the guy who videoed the whole thing so he could sell it off later. "Drunk guy acts like an ass" - who cares.
-
RHP User
9 years ago
yep...that vid was pretty typical of most nightclubs. - Posted from rhpmobile
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Watched it. Yeah he was a total obnoxous knob.I would have kicked him out of my place too. Cant say he pee'd himself or spilt a drink on himself for sure. I think the former. Dog wasnt hurt, although it was a stupid thing to do and wasnt funny. But the people involved in filming it saw an opportunity for money. Sold it through a broker. I like how when they are all leaving she goes up to one of them and says" No, you can stay" as she rubs her hands on him. Did she touch him inappropriately? If that part was reversed, there would have been more uproar for sure.Didnt seem like he was interested in her and he left as well. Yes stupid behaviour but I think its blown out.
-
RHP User
9 years ago
But most of us have done really stupid things.Its just that nobody is interested in our stupidity..I assume that this video was posted without his consent and was there no right to his privacy ?xxFreya
Boards
-
Hot Topics
Topics: 14361 Comments: 120840
-
Girls Ask
Topics: 1355 Comments: 14709
-
Guys Ask
Topics: 2425 Comments: 17234
-
Couples' Corner
Topics: 2405 Comments: 12737
-
Swingers Lifestyle
Topics: 794 Comments: 5154
-
Fetish & Fantasy
Topics: 1148 Comments: 6957
-
Hot Travel
Topics: 622 Comments: 2145
-
LGBT
Topics: 156 Comments: 1150
Forum help
-
Something related with that
-
Going somewhere & want to hook up?
-
Hasn't that topic been posted before?
RHP's popular dating tool
-
Where the heck did that topic go?
Discover what RHP is doing offline
-
RHP member's RL secrets
reply
like
Share