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Do older women want relationships with younger men?
April 04 2019
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FeistyFatty
6 years ago
I have noticed alot of older Aussie Gents with much younger Asian wives. Can't say I've seen the opposite though, ever. Personally i don't understand the attraction (if any, if we're being brutally honest). I also would not be interested in an actual relationship with a much younger man, our life experiences and common interests would be worlds apart.
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0z_boy
6 years ago
Yes Ive seen a lot of it as well, and most with a few kids in tow. I blame the internet! A lot of the sexually active and eligible women in the 50-60 age bracket have gone feral cougar leaving the randy men in that age bracket a little lonely :D
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RHP User
6 years ago
Yes I've seen this a lot too. I can only think that's because they've had no luck in relationships with women in Australia. There is a big thing for Thai brides too. Not sure why the trend isn't the same the other way around
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Tall74nHard9
6 years ago
The general reason why you will see a willingness for younger Asian women with older Caucasian men, is that they see the men as a relaible source of security for their futures. They figure that the man will have gone through any 'wild side', have security in the forms of housing and/ or income and be prepared to have a steady relationship with them. Also don't know why you generally don't see the reverse. Tall
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MsSuperFoxy
6 years ago
I think/ believe it has to do with inter racial marriages and cultural upbringing of the males. In "some" cultures as it is Taboo for interracial marriages and the man must honour his family values and marry within his own, to carry the family name. Males are of high regard. I know as it happened to my daughter when she married a man who has very strong custum believes. She was a "white girl" and it was very frounded upon in his culture. All is ok and accepted now but was not at first. His mother cried non stop for over 3 mtonths. It broke my heart when I was told that. Yet, go to Bali and there are heaps of Australian women with Kuta Cowboys. Weird as they prefer to travel there than stay here. A woman at my work went as far as Turkey to find a husband. Ms Foxy
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MsSuperFoxy
6 years ago
My mum's sports physiologist is dating a much younger man who is asain. Ms Foxy
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AnnieWhichway
6 years ago
The Asian ladies take up with the Aussie older gents so they can provide for their families back home. The gents are happy to provide for the families as they are provided with a young trophy female, sex and company in their twilight years. Win win situation for all. And let's face it, most of these guys would be lucky to pull a woman at the nursing home let alone a female half the age. She gets to hope he falls of the perch earlier rather than later to get whatever money is left. Still, it works. Good luck to all.
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0z_boy
6 years ago
Yes Annie and tall are right on the money. I think the older women dont go the same way as they dont need to. I have occasionally caught some of these young wives checking me out, and by the look of the hubbys I can understand why. hah
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boxestotick
6 years ago
Money and a visa!
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RHP User
6 years ago
An Australian business woman who has been married to a much younger Balinese man for over fifteen years.They live in Bali and she financially supports his other wife and children. It works for them. Hugs Q
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The_Antichrist
6 years ago
I do see it too OP...but from what I’ve read, and conversations I’ve had with blokes who holiday in said countries they are attracted to their submissiveness.... A guy that I spoke to at a flour mill met a lady overseas and he said the lady he met wouldn’t go out unless she called him to ask his permission, what to wear...etc.. I find that to be far too clingy for my liking and to be honest, it’d do my head in...
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RHP User
6 years ago
I think a reliable source of security to provide for family is one thing but how does one live without the connection. Without passion? Relationships come in many shapes and sizes and we are never to judge anyone’s as what works for them is their business. However regardless of the relationship type you have wouldn’t anyone still want it based on friendship, loyalty, passion, desire, trust, forgiveness and growth? Are they not key aspects to it? Love can be given or taken it’s not a necessity for a strong relationship and can ruin things but would longevity in a relationship not need to come from more than security? Would that not get taken for granted and the male become suspicious as to the intent of his partner (or vice versa) Or does he not care because he’s getting benefits from it no questions asked and he enjoys not being challenged and not having to answer to someone?
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MsSuperFoxy
6 years ago
I do know there is and have seen and met a few couples profiles on here, where the woman is of an older matured age and the male half is of Asian decent and younger. I do know there is a regular forum poster who is in this situation, as I have met both of them. I also do believe this couple are together because they genually care for each other, and are not in it for the visa or money. So, it does happen, not here but out in the community as well. Ms Foxy
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RHP User
6 years ago
Foxxxy It’s nice to read that these relationships do work and are more to the eye than what we see. It’s easy to assume you know what’s going on in someone’s relationship just by being a third party viewer, but particularly as you become close to them, however you never truly know unless you ask that person. Assumptions can kill.
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MsSuperFoxy
6 years ago
Ms Foxy
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OkeyDoke45
6 years ago
Darwin is a very multi-ethnic community with many inter-racial marriages. There are ''anglo'' men with Asian women who met in Australia, fell in love, got married etc. They have a relationship just like everyone else. There are the older/elderly men with younger Asian wives - the wives probably mostly are of the ''mail-order'' (to use an old term) variety, but of these there are two sub-sets that are pretty much split down the middle in my experience. The first are of horrid, putrid, morbidly obese men who treat their wives like absolute shit. They sought them out most probably for an easy, regular root - with the added bonus that she cleans the house as well. I have met a few like this through my work and it is hard for me to hold a civil tongue. I have told a couple of the long-suffering wives on the quiet that they should leave their husband and go find a man who at the very least won't treat her like a slave. The second are men who were never able to enter into a relationship with a woman for whatever reason - and yes I will admit physical attractiveness is not one of their strong points by and large. Time is getting on, they are getting a little too grey in the hair for their liking. A trip to Bali, or Thailand, or wherever where there are women who wish to leave their lives of hardship. Tick all the legal boxes to get married and she can migrate to Australia. Yet the men treat their wives with love and respect, the wives are genuinely in love with their men in return. I have met a few like this again through my work. Being that Bali is a short flight away from Darwin I go there quite regularly. I have a favorite massage place (of the non-special-finish variety) that I go to every time, and every time I get young women flirting with me and saying they would really like an Australian man, and of course I am sure that they say that to every single Australian man that they see. I'm not saying that's a bad thing - I would probably do the same were I in their situation. Some of these would like to be ''kept women'' but remain in Bali, yet others will want to go the whole hog and find an Aussie husband to take her to Australia. So there's a little bit more to OPs topic than just ''dirty old Aussie men looking for a cheap root who cleans house''. There are those for sure, but there are others as well. Sometimes the women get an absolute shit deal, but in my experience many find themselves with a good man who takes care of them.
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AnnieWhichway
6 years ago
The same can be said for older Aussie guys who get an Asian house boy for sex and service. Some are treated like shit and the situation arises because younger Australian guys would never put up with the treatment from the dominant pigs but the Asian guys send money home for family. But we can't tar and feather all these Aussie guys, there are many loving relationships amongst the terrible ones.
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boobsandbusted
6 years ago
we know quite a few younger asian or women from that area with older auzzie guys and they are very very happy as far as we can tell , it’s not always about the money but a nice lifestyle helps i’m sure ,good luck to them why not , also as mrs b damns them ,they aren’t always anywhere near as young as people’s eyes may think ,just saying mr b
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boobsandbusted
6 years ago
oops and on ops topic ,haven’t met any the other way around young asian man with older aussie woman that i can think of,but i bet there are plenty out there mr b
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RHP User
6 years ago
And back to ops topic - speaking only for myself - I can’t say younger has more appeal than my age or similar. I do have doubts about compatibility with someone younger however i think that compatibility can’t be measured by age or distance or societal norms. It’s a feeling you get about someone and being compatible with “x” person during a period in your life doesn’t mean that someone similar will be compatible in future
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RHP User
6 years ago
Quoting 'avixen' I think a reliable source of security to provide for family is one thing but how does one live without the connection. Without passion? Relationships come in many shapes and sizes and we are never to judge anyone’s as what works for them is their business. However regardless of the relationship type you have wouldn’t anyone still want it based on friendship, loyalty, passion, desire, trust, forgiveness and growth? Are they not key aspects to it? Love can be given or taken it’s not a necessity for a strong relationship and can ruin things but would longevity in a relationship not need to come from more than security? Would that not get taken for granted and the male become suspicious as to the intent of his partner (or vice versa) Or does he not care because he’s getting benefits from it no questions asked and he enjoys not being challenged and not having to answer to someone? You're spot on. I've wondered all this too.
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RHP User
6 years ago
Quoting 'The_Antichrist' I do see it too OP...but from what I’ve read, and conversations I’ve had with blokes who holiday in said countries they are attracted to their submissiveness.... A guy that I spoke to at a flour mill met a lady overseas and he said the lady he met wouldn’t go out unless she called him to ask his permission, what to wear...etc.. I find that to be far too clingy for my liking and to be honest, it’d do my head in... submissiveness........and there's sexual submissiveness. In my experience, knowledge (little though it may be) and observation of all this, yes, the older men seem to be after a younger, submissive woman who will also be sexually submissive.I do know one mature Australian man who married a much younger Asian lady and sadly, did in fact treat her nastily (even at their wedding here in Aust) and like a slave.She went back to the Philippines 2 years later. Also, a male neighbour whom I know, when in his late 60's, married a Chinese lady 30 years his junior.He's now in his 70's and they have a small child together.He says he's too old to deal with the child so he goes out every day and sits in a coffee shop with his friends and chats and reads the paper all day while the lady stays at home all the time with their child.He says he's unhappy......and he sounds it and looks it!Surely she couldn't be happy either!Mutual friends also keep saying how unhappy he is and that he isn't interested in spending time with the child.How very sad is that! The_Antichrist mentions clingyness. Most men claim they never ever want clingy, needy ladies and yet, in their mature years, that's exactly the type of woman many men seem to end up with. I don't understand it at all.
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The_Antichrist
6 years ago
I think there’s a difference between submissive(sexually) and clingy.... If a grown arse woman needs me to tell her what outfit to wear, needs to call me to ask if she can go to the shops or out for coffee with her friends, that’s clingy... Asking my opinion on the outfit shes chosen to wear is not clingy....that’s verifying her outfit for suitability to the event in which we’re attending as that’s a two way street.... Being submissive sexually means that we share the same sexual interests and she trusts me enough to provide the sexual environment that offers mutual sexual gratification...but again it’s not me telling her what she wants or the activities that I subjectively decide is what she needs to do....that’s being a cunt....
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0z_boy
6 years ago
Clingy outfits,,, mmmmmm
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0z_boy
6 years ago
cunts mmmmm Sorry I'll be on my way now :D
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RHP User
6 years ago
I think a lot of men don’t know how to handle a strong minded opinionated woman. Lots talk about being dominant sexually but I find that this can also tend to lead towards the dynamics of a relationship as well. Submissiveness sexually is a complete different ball game to being a submissive person in day to day life. Woman have a right to an opinion and a say and men sometimes do not know how to handle this. They get their back up when a woman speaks up and heaven forbid expresses an opinion or wants to go a direction that doesn’t suit their current scene being played out. They want a woman to follow along and be yes sir no sir whatever you say sir.. sexually yes - go nuts, own it and rock it. Normal day to day though I don’t think this flies. If you want a woman who’s a freak between the sheets and knocks your socks on when she’s riding you like there’s no tomorrow and kissing you like she’s never kissed before then you take her as a freak on the street as well!
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The_Antichrist
6 years ago
A vixen....yep...my thoughts exactly...and it’s that petulant response(irrespective of whom expresses it) just are never going to be my kinda peeps :)
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RHP User
6 years ago
Avixen - ❤ Anti - ❤ As a nurse I see plenty of grumpy, old men that have never taken care of themselves. They have high blood pressure and diabetes and can barely walk because the vascular disease and diabetic foot disease is making them become disabled and even more cranky. Then sometimes you see the men that have taken an Asian bride for themselves. It is obvious to me why he has done it - she will be his carer. Occasionally I've had to speak out when the grumpy turns to belligerence and verbal abuse toward the Asian bride.
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RHP User
6 years ago
Anyone for looking for a way out of poverty.We judge with the filter of privilege and a different culture. What about Caucasian so called trophy wives,house wives/husbands who choose to be financially supported.? Q
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RHP User
6 years ago
These sort of relationships certainly aren’t based on skin colour alone. They happen in all cultures and societies. Some women no doubt actively seek these relationships where they are guaranteed financial security for whatever reason. It’s happened for centuries and no doubt will continue to do so. Personally I’d sacrifice money and fancy views and trips away to have someone that supported me even though I’m a bit country hick. Financial security can only get you so far and only give a certain amount of satisfaction and happiness. Once you realise that this is not all there is to life is it going to be easy to walk away from? No relationship ever is but how much “settling” goes on in these relationships... Give me passion, desire, fighting, acceptance, challenging, encouraging, support, friendship, trust just to name a few over financial security any day. Anyone can work hard and ultimately gain security
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RHP User
6 years ago
Individually in life but without the presence of other emotional and mental factors how does the relationship sustain itself? (Yes clearly I’m not after financial support lol and maybe choose to lead with the soul than with sense)
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MsSuperFoxy
6 years ago
I agree with your statement- "We judge with the filter of privilege and a different culture." I also believe not many people are as open minded about different cultures, believes, faiths, marriages etc and people in society do tend to judge rather quickly and harsh. It is very sad. Ms Foxy
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nightingale8
6 years ago
Being of South East Asian background and female I'm both entertained and confronted by all the assumptions and counterassumptions that no doubt are made of me, and that I have been guilty of making. The irony in my case being that if I choose an older white playmate it is me seeking them out for fine company and nothing more, not security, support, freedom from poverty, status, relationship, marriage nor children. In fact quite the opposite I'm probably more educated, more stubbornly independent, better paid. And in a relationship. I secretly smile thinking how I contradict so many assumptions made of what is expected as a younger Asian female! If you assume just remember some are quietly laughing right back saying cheers 🍷
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SSExplorer
6 years ago
Oh this subject was always destined to bring out all the stereotyping! Once upon a time you would have been frowned upon from marrying outside your tribe, your religion, your community and then your race. So where should we limit our search for the perfect love? I have met amazing women and had a few amazing connections all over the world and I definitely would not limit my desires to any race! So my life partner is Asian, she’s also significantly younger than me and looks even younger than she is. If I had of passed her on the street I would never have thought to chase her as I would have thought she was too young, too short, too slim for me. Lucky for me I was introduced to her mind first. But just like the Muslim, the gender fluid, the anything out of someone else’s norm we have to experience the stereotyping of others.....tbc
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SSExplorer
6 years ago
... and there are some truths to it, there are men that use the plight of others for their own express advantage in many ways but then I have also been caught out judging people then learning the book is far from the cover. I could list a negative stereotype of the Western woman but that wouldn’t be fair to all my beautiful western friends. What I can do is remind people that cultures are different, if you think a typical Asian woman is submissive in all areas then you’re in for a surprise. Yes they can be in public but every Asian woman I know is the supreme ruler of her relationship and her destiny. They don’t need to beat their chest on how strong minded they are, they just Do! I am in awe of my wife in so many ways and yes I feel extremely blessed that she’s fallen for this fat, old western man. And even though she wishes for us to die of old age in each other’s arms, I am happy that if the inevitable happens she will be very, very well looked after :)
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RHP User
6 years ago
Quoting 'avixen' (Yes clearly I’m not after financial support lol and maybe choose to lead with the soul than with sense) you should appreciate how lucky you are that you have the privilege of putting soul over sense, and also try to appreciate that not everyone is as lucky. I'd be willing to bet that if you weren't sure where your next meal was coming from or if you would still have a roof over your head tomorrow, that your priorities might change a bit.
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RHP User
6 years ago
Snap_dragon - I’m by no means financially well to do. As a single mother I struggle from week to week, yes I work but not in a high paying job. Luxuries I used to take for granted like spoiling myself with clothes or lingerie or even having my hair done have all been put on the back burner(or require week by week saving) to ensure my children have what they need. However regardless of how tough it may get for me and I guarantee it will I’ll choose to sacrifice things for myself in order to ensure my children have what they need. I’ll not eat if it ever comes to that stage but I will not sacrifice my mind or my soul to rely on someone else solely for money. I do understand each to their own. And I’m not judging anyone merely offering my thoughts. If I’m not in someone’s shoes then I can’t know what their driving motivation is or the reason for their decisions. I’ll never assume I know not assume that what they are doing is either right or wrong simply because it differs from what I would do. For me personally and individually and just my thoughts - j don’t want to be financially owing to anyone. I just paid an ex friend out for a trip we went away on in January because he has chosen to no longer see me. At the point in time we went away there was no need to pay my half as he was away for work but I tagged along, for me when we went away it was always something we chose to do together as equals, not one wanting to do it for the other or paying for the other, but as equals. So I didn’t want the thought he’d paid for accommodation and feeling like I owed him something hanging over my head so I evened the field. Point being is for me I don’t want to feel I owe people something or vice versa. It’s maybe about independence for me financially and personally, I’ve always had to do things on my own and people never seem reliable - I don’t know but I’m not judging people that seek security - it comes in many forms and varies from relationship to relationship, but financial security, it’s just not the most important thing to me to seek. Sorry if I offended you in any way.
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MsSuperFoxy
6 years ago
So true. I agree, that why I liked your posts. Ms Foxy
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RHP User
6 years ago
SSExplorer - thank you for sharing.
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cat_n_the_hatter
6 years ago
Yes, I have noticed it. It may be that some older men are used to being in control of a woman, and that doesn’t sit well with modern western women, so those men go overseas to find someone that would find their "offer" attractive. And that is fine. We all make choices in life. One of the few possible explanations is that couples with younger husbands violate social norms and thus suffer from social sanctions. Since marrying a younger husband deviates from what is regarded as normal, these couples receive less social support. What surprises me is often negative, self-defeating beliefs many women have when trying to allow themselves to feel happy and enjoy the time they share with younger men – the thoughts running through their mind like "don't be so selfish to try to date someone that young". Society treats women who go against the traditional norm as if they go against their nature. Women shouldn't care that much about what people think and if your friend is with someone much younger congratulate and support her.(Ms)
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RHP User
6 years ago
Younger than me. I prefer younger guys full stop. If two people are happy spending their lives together, whether its for a short time or forever, it cant be wrong.
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nevahadsomuchfun
6 years ago
I once met an older French fellow on plane going back to his Thai bride in Thailand. I could barely make conversation with him his English was so bad... it made me wonder if all that was exchanged in the relationship was financial security, sex and great food?!
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RHP User
6 years ago
No way..couldnt think of anything worse..personally prefer a man not a boy..maturity with age so much more sexier and appealing..no cougar here 🙂
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RHP User
6 years ago
I am a mature woman. I have always had a very very young upbeat outlook. I relate better with guys younger than myself. Honestly- I would love to have DM with a guy that relates better with more mature woman :)
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goldcoastcple69
6 years ago
I married a philippino wife. She did not marry me for a visa or money or any other reason other than love It took me a long time to convince her to leave her country. And when she did move here she got a job and made her own money. I estimate we know atleast 50 to 60 sth east asian/ white male relationships. I cant think of one that matches the stereotypes mentioned in this thread. Every couple we know love each other just like any other couple. They have kids , jobs , careers, businesses, social lives. None of the couples we know abuse each other or are here for visas or money. Maybe some of those do exist. But im sure there are plenty of Australian women who use men for money and position. Plenty.
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goldcoastcple69
6 years ago
And for those of you who think sth east asian women are submissive . You have absolutely no idea lol Atleast with filo and thai. They are tough as nails and dont like to be told what to do. Ive learnt to do as im told lol
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RHP User
6 years ago
I was married to an Indonesian man who lived in Bali and was 11 years younger than myself - when we met, I was 41, he was 30. I copped so much rubbish from people who thought they "knew" what we were about … I would hear he only wanted a visa to Australia, only wanted my money, blah blah.... and for every person that said that to me, he would have someone over there in his ear saying that I only wanted him for "fun" for my holidays, that I had another man in Australia … and so on and so forth. None of this was true, on either side. I was a single mum with little money who could not afford to sponsor him to Australia. He did not want to live in Australia anyway as life is very regulated here compared to the freedom of Bali.. plus, he would not find the opportunity to work in his chosen profession (musician) in Australia … would probably have had to do a cleaning job or similar. So we embarked on a long distance marriage. Everyone bagged that too. A GP asked me if I "picked up my husband on a beach"! Despite all the sh*te we copped, we had a 15-year relationship and I think that is pretty good going considering the hurdles. My point is : No-one knew our individual stories. Many generalised and judged. I try not to. Even if their motives are different to what you would choose, maybe they are quite aware .. they are not being 'hoodwinked' - they make a choice that suits them. Live and let live, I think - as long as there is no exploitation or abuse.
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Jbaggs6
6 years ago
The older man with his mail order bride 😂
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RHP User
6 years ago
#visa
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Philauscouple
6 years ago
Spend a decent amount of time in Bali or Phuket......you will discover many older white women either having fun with younger asian boy toys......bali boys.....or in long term relationships. But you dont need to visit there......anyone who watched that tv show "what really happens in bali?" would have seen that.....and remember the AAMI ads with rhonda and ketut.....its a cultural phenomenon. and its not limited to old white women.... how about the older japanese and rich singaporean women ive seen with their boy toys. Power and wealth give ALL persons the chance to indulge their desires no matter their sex or ethnic background. I'm no judge... what starts as one thing often finishes with love. Love grows
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RHP User
6 years ago
Lots of critics Im hubby of asian wife after 3 aussie ones I dated for 10 years here Most laddies here have major issues from their past Ithink all good ones taken n are snached up straight away when come on market Its about life quality and asian girls are bought up to care for man and family if he treats her right These ladies love our wisdom and yes can commuicate in sex and love and general conversation But i see all the knocers who have not tried it have a lot to say As for asian men a lot are lazy and no good as providers have drinking problems and drugs so maybe that why older ladies dont like them Just my opinion as the hubby of asian wife
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LissnJules
6 years ago
To me it is person dependent. I like younger men always have. But to me Jules is just my boyfriend partner. We haves been together for 5 years, live together and have a 15 year age gap. We get judged often by those who don't know us. But it is not an age thing we just work. And i believe each to their own. Whatever makes one happy.
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RHP User
6 years ago
Quoting 'LatteLady' I was married to an Indonesian man who lived in Bali and was 11 years younger than myself - when we met, I was 41, he was 30. I copped so much rubbish from people who thought they "knew" what we were about … I would hear he only wanted a visa to Australia, only wanted my money, blah blah.... and for every person that said that to me, he would have someone over there in his ear saying that I only wanted him for "fun" for my holidays, that I had another man in Australia … and so on and so forth. None of this was true, on either side. I was a single mum with little money who could not afford to sponsor him to Australia. He did not want to live in Australia anyway as life is very regulated here compared to the freedom of Bali.. plus, he would not find the opportunity to work in his chosen profession (musician) in Australia … would probably have had to do a cleaning job or similar. So we embarked on a long distance marriage. Everyone bagged that too. A GP asked me if I "picked up my husband on a beach"! Despite all the sh*te we copped, we had a 15-year relationship and I think that is pretty good going considering the hurdles. My point is : No-one knew our individual stories. Many generalised and judged. I try not to. Even if their motives are different to what you would choose, maybe they are quite aware .. they are not being 'hoodwinked' - they make a choice that suits them. Live and let live, I think - as long as there is no exploitation or abuse. --------- This is so great to hear about your LTR with your Indonesian man. I work with some lovely single men of Vietnamese and Japanese descent who are in their late 20s / early 30s.Sadly they don't look twice at me and after subtle queries, it seems they only date Asian women of similar ages to themselves.
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RHP User
6 years ago
Some guys in their 30s to be more mature than some guys in their 50s. Ive received more respectful and articulate messages from younger guys. Of course, not all older guys are immature and entitled ( "youre getting on a bit, Im sure youd be glad of some late night company" - no thanks ) but age has nothing to do with maturity as far as Im concerned.
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aaenjoy
6 years ago
Guess you won't be getting anything from the mixed couples in here. The mail order bride is not only a long dead concept, it is down right derogatory. A fair portion of Asian, Russian, Eastern European, etc, etc come here as migrant for a better life, also many are better educated than the lazy opiniated australian. I would rather a dozen Asian or European migrants over one australian born uneducated narrow minded drop kick
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RHP User
6 years ago
Kokoflamingo Exactly. I also have found many younger men far more respectful, and many are interesting and highly intelligent. They usually are the ones who know I need my brain massaged before anything else. It is the older men who tend to discriminate or pigeon-hole me based on age... think I am some sort of sad desperado. Nothing could be further from the truth. 😁 I don't particularly seek out much younger men but I don't reject purely on age either. Maybe woman older big age-gap relationships just aren't so visible as we tend to keep them more behind closed doors due to social stigma.
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RHP User
6 years ago
Second rate Aussie guys can’t find themselves a woman so they import a cut price foreign bride. He provides money and a visa and she gets a ticket out of the third world. (Meerkat) Simples!
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RHP User
6 years ago
I am an ex Asian born but spent adult life as an educated open minded Australian citizen. I find Aussie men physically attractive. I can’t imagine being with younger men, I am asked constantly to date young men but no I simply don’t have any interest on younger men. We are biologically programmed this way. We want our men to be taller, stronger and older than us, it’s simple as that to me.
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MsSuperFoxy
6 years ago
Who sre the WE in "We are biologically programmed this way" ?? 🤔 Ms Foxy
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SSExplorer
6 years ago
Hey a quick call out to the few bigoted, thick, tactless morons out there.....ah what’s the point, you can’t change stoopid! Simples!
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RHP User
6 years ago
Exactly.. who is the "we"? My ex-husband was both younger and shorter than me.. and I am 5'3". Mind you, I also very much like lean bookish types whose minds turn me on, sweet faced guys, tall guys with a nice set of arms and strong shoulders.. and I also don't object to those long strong legs rocking nylons. Programming... pfft.
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SSExplorer
6 years ago
Back on topic, I have enjoyed reading many of the responses from older women who have a leaning for younger men. I think it all depends on where you are at in life. In my work I get to have quite close conversations with people of all ages and all walks of life, I must say I have had much more intense and satisfying conversations with older women from 50s up to into 90s. Of course I’ve had the same with ageing men too but we seem to become more narrow minded as we age than women, it’s no wonder these older women appreciate someone who they can really speak their mind with! To counter, I must say I have also met some very young things, both male and female, that I am in awe with how well they are tackling the world. What
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goldcoastcple69
6 years ago
"Second rate Aussie guys can’t find themselves a woman so they import a cut price foreign bride. He provides money and a visa and she gets a ticket out of the third world. (Meerkat) Simples! " Or ..Maybe were not interested in bigoted ignorant ugly fat bogan bitches? Jealous much?
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RHP User
6 years ago
No offence! Some of you old ladies here may have received my flirt or msgs. I have no counts, but I sent more than 50 random msg, some with erotic profile pic and some without. Reply rate was 1% or less. Others didn’t even bother to say I’m not interested. I asked one lady who replied to msg, why? She was kind enough to reply, ‘just my preference’. I wished to ask her what she meant by preference but I didn’t. I thought I would aggravate her level of tolerance for me, a stranger. Personally, I think both Asian man and Caucasian ladies are hesitant to hang out because they will be centre of attention. Also, there are always larger number of local man available for ladies to choose from. Anyway, out of that one percent, I was able to have wonderful time with one beautiful single lady who is at her 47. Conclusion, there are women who are having good relationship with Asian man but not at par with Australian man with Asian women.
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Katkat
6 years ago
There’s plenty of immigrants nowadays some will do anything to get permanent resident or citizen just to stay here in Australia. Some men go to Asia either China or Thailand to get a bride bring them over here be their maid basically cook, clean and more submissive coz they don’t talk back but give it to 5-7 years later they get separated and move on or stay together. As time passes by people do change their minds too nothing is forever nowadays.
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RHP User
6 years ago
They're called mail order brides. A lot of these women from Asia usually marry Australian men to obtain permanent residence or citizenship. It's not uncommon for a lot of these women to give the guy the flick once their objective has been realised. I guess the reason why you don't see older women dating much younger men is because older women probably date someone for the right reasons.
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ReyandJean
6 years ago
Props to Nightingale SSExplorer and some of the others who have pointed out the inanity of the generalizations in this forum.
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EarthQueen
6 years ago
As I’ve gotten older I care less about what society thinks. Everyone has ideas about how things should be but unless you are to two people involved you won’t understand the situation. I met a 30 year old at the pub on Friday night and we have a connection. So yes I’ll explore it. It might just be sexual. That’s OK. But it’s rare that I would find someone that I’m interested in so I’m not going to let a number stop me from getting to know someone who might positively impact my life. Fear of being judged will stop people doing many things but thoughts aren’t reality. I have a lot of Thai friends married to Aussie men and I see the same relationship patterns that exist in Caucasian couples. We are just a whole lot of human organisms moving through the journey. We can’t assume to know the hearts and minds of others.
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Smilingwithfun
6 years ago
As i'm getting to the Old Age bracket, an Overseas born partner wouldn't be out of the question. Having done a fair bit of world travel i do get why older aussie men do this. And the lady wouldn't have to be younger. And I would do it for the difference in mind set of overseas ladies. Yes, is interesting why you don't see it, though on the coast here you do see a few younger men with older women.
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Smilingwithfun
6 years ago
She spoke French,
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Smilingwithfun
6 years ago
I’m certain everyone’s wish list for a perfect venue will vary . As we all seek different things, our wish lists will differ greatly .[br]Our perfect venue is an unpretentious bar type situation with a relaxed , sexy , no pressure environment. The no pressure part meaning no pressure ‘to dress down ‘ at a certain time with the freedom to do so if you want . We have been to events where the clock strikes 10 pm and it’s dress down time or you must vacate . Not wanting to seem shallow, some form of dress code would be in place . When co hosting an event in Melbourne we put this in place . People were arriving in tracksuits and gym gear with no intention of getting changed once arriving . Sexy looking people that make an effort create a seductive environment. [br]A venue with clean separate play areas . Somewhere privacy is assured if wanted . [br]A club the offers different nights. For us a night where limited single guys were allowed to attend . I realise that for this to be successful , safe and ‘no seagull on a chip ‘ issues occurring this requires a vetting process which takes time and a lot of effort . [br]We love the idea of a bar where we can meet like minded friends or have first time meets in a safe space . Melbourne has recently opened ‘Between Friends ‘wine bar that seem to fit the bill but they allow no single guys . I wish them success in these uncertain times . [br]Ax
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SexyisaMindset
6 years ago
Literately sexy is a mindset! I like both younger and older men, it’s important they are not just good to look at or feel 😉, but more importantly have some life experiences, intelligence and are self aware about pleasing others and themselves and are engaging in conversation. EQ and IQ are equally important to me and to be honest, not been into the Asian flavours of humanity yet! The world is so diverse these days and the reality is that the drivers for younger Asian women in most instances for older men is about reducing loneliness, which is the biggest killer and reason for depression and mental health issues. Everyone deserves to feel needed and loved. 💝
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ruby_blossum
6 years ago
I am just seeking someone closer to my age. Anyone over 10 ish years younger holds little attraction for me.
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RHP User
6 years ago
Oops and oops again...
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RHP User
6 years ago
At the end of the day we are individuals.. what we seek is going to vary.. attractiveness comes on a many varied scale and field.. What is right for one may not be for another but also doesn’t make it wrong. If someone makes you laugh, feel confident strong and sexy, if there’s respect and admiration and support then who cares about age, gender or race? Yes arranged marriages happen. Yes relationships can be bought. But if this is what people seek then again who are we to judge. Be open minded. Not everything will be our cup of tea but it doesn’t mean we have to sour that tea if it is for someone else. There’s too much bickering in the world - be a lover not a fighter, be passionate about that
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MacandTrin
6 years ago
Stigmatizing and labelling is not helpful and factually wrong.In a time where science and biology are "forgotten" and denied, biology and evolution do still play an important role. Some of which are mentioned here by others. If you think that indeed there are 50+genders and men and women are the same you're heading for the wall. Note I think men and women have the right for equal opportunities, but denying the given differences is fatal and stupid (and actually isn't that the source of our mutual attractiveness? isn't the hunt more satisfying then the kill?) If you are a nut that thinks its okay "transgender" (men-to women) to compete with women in sports you need serious professional help. Its men's versus women's brains. Men's bodies versus women's bodies.So yes security in relationship and continuing the "bloodline". Some call it money and a visa and others perverts. Both extremes and wrongs of a spectrum of matching interests and (true) conditioned/influenced "norms" and how the other is portrayed.The challenge for a fruitful and deeper relationship remains the same of getting this intellect and understanding connect, but this is more towards a family/unit level.When a man wants to discuss he does it at work, his peer group. That's NOT why he got into you!Women discuss the color of the curtains with others, men couldn't care less. Add to that numerous and varying social/cultural factors, true. Older women with younger men is thus rare and unfortunately based on the stigma's spread on the reverse mentioned above even harder to "proof wrong". Its a general black and white answer, but then this is no publication.And from an older man with a younger Asian woman.I am also just a child of my time. Forgive me father for I have sinned..... Success!
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RHP User
6 years ago
There is no problem in dating an older lady or mature lady. I always have great experiences and learning. At the age of 22 I started dating with 41. Sometimes, we get much of learning and learn from their experiences. I have dated French, Filipino, Swedish and Aussie ladies and I don't remember if anyone ever was younger than me. It's more of choice as well.
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Sawadee
6 years ago
So refreshing to read a counter opinion .. The asian women ive known are definately not as submissive and desparate as some might suggest. I have however fòund depending on which part of asia the woman hails , she will have her own little peculiarities . Nothing wrong with that , something we all have to some degree.. On the topic of asian submissiveness , i'd say its more that asian cultures dont put as much anx into sex as we do in the west.. Just my observation .
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AnnieWhichway
6 years ago
Is alive and well. It's human nature. Most....well all , old male, young Asian women relationships that l know, scream out the stereo type thing. It turns our heads, makes us raise our eyebrows at the obvious and then when we see similar couples we stereo type them. Bit like old guys and young Caucasian women/men in relationships, we stereo type them. Just life. Get over it. Doesn't make it right l know. So good luck to all the older gents in relationships with much younger asian women who some have posted in here calling us out. Call us out as much as you like you will still be stereo typed, no matter how loud and nasty you shout. I get stereo typed too. I got over it decades ago
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SSExplorer
6 years ago
AVIXEN- I have a serious mind crush on you xxxx 😘
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RHP User
6 years ago
everyone that this thread has ended up containing name calling and insults.I would like to have avoided that. The examples and experiences from ladies like Koko and LatteLady impart the kinds of responses I had hoped for along with the insights of younger gents like Van_gera. Thank you for that.-------------------------------------------------------Everyone is entitled to their opinion though and as Annie reminds us, probably everyone has been stereotyped at some stage throughout their life, myself included, but we can move right along can't we ? and not allow it to bother us too much ? We all know who we are and what we are so just own it and live your life because nobody else can live it for you.
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RHP User
6 years ago
I love older women.
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Circe
6 years ago
I haven’t noticed that many Asian women with older men... I think in my community, generally, it’s not really such a thing. And I’m not being approached by younger Asian men. I do notice that men in my age group (late 40s) who are dating are looking for a younger woman (late 30s to early 40s). I’m approached by older men 55+ and tbh, I’m not interested or attracted. I’d like to meet someone who is my age or within 2 years either way. This has to do with stage of life, health, energy and libido.
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goldcoastcple69
6 years ago
Calling Aussie men who marry elsewhere "second rate" isnt a stereotype. Its a direct insult. In regards to the stereotype part. Again. My wife like many filo/thai women we know, are happy living here but would MUCH prefer to move back home. They stay here because they love their husbands and know its much harder for us to adjust living there than it is for them to adjust living here Simples..
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RHP User
6 years ago
SSExplorer - thank you 😘
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MsSuperFoxy
6 years ago
I agree. I too have noticed a few posts in this thread that are insulting and offensive. To sterotype couples of mixed race, into one basket is not cool and is closed minded. Yet the same people have posted (in other forum topics) before saying they are non judgemental. Ms Foxy
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RHP User
6 years ago
I would say , the age didn’t matter to me though as long as I’m attracted to the woman, it is the same for kandice, we are both attracted to each other others from different and similar age groups.
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AnnieWhichway
6 years ago
There are 3 types of stereotyping 1 CognitiveThis type usually arise without conscious awareness. An automatic thought 2. Affective 3. Emotional 2 and 3 are directly linked to prejudice thoughts and actions Cognitive is not directly linked but fair to say, those that exhibit thought processes of 2 and 3 of course link with 1. So you can recognise a stereotypic situation due to life experiences without being prejudicial or racist
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SSExplorer
6 years ago
Sorry I don’t get it. So racism, sexism, ageism any-ism is acceptable and should be tolerated so long as it can be justified as an accepted (by who) stereotype? I agree we all fall into stereotyping but surely what makes us better people is challenging our own faulty thoughts and not accepting rude and offensive behaviour from others. I cringe every time I hear someone bleat “I’m allowed my opinion” Yes we are all allowed to have any opinion on anything but in voicing it or practising it we must accept to be taken to task on those opinions. All opinions are not right, not acceptable and to think you can have any negative opinion of another without a backlash is pure stupidity...my opinion of course 😛
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MsJonesy
6 years ago
You need to serve wine on the side for posts like that. 🍷🍷
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AnnieWhichway
6 years ago
No where have l said prejudice, sexism, ageism, racism is acceptable. What l posted is stereotyping isn't necessarily any of the above. We all stereotype but you don't necessarily relate it as such. It's a brain function that is thought to help it increase efficiency. But l can see some peeps read the bits they want. There's probably a stereotypic group name for that. I'm out
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cat_n_the_hatter
6 years ago
I tried to answer your question in my last reply but of course it is complex and social norm and prejudice women face is only part of the story. Men compare to other men. Across cultures. Whether it’s pigs, camels, money or women. When a man marries a woman from eastern cultures, he marries a family. She may not be submissive but men in her family are even less so. For Australian women it is much harder to find a man in those cultures as power imbalance is something those men won’t accept easily. Of course, it is different for short-lived romances. However, 95 % of marriages with 12+years of difference end up in divorce, and women married to 10 + years older husbands have considerably shorter lifespan. (up to 13 years). There is a difference between people accidentally meeting and finding love, and those actively seeking someone who is in need to fill their empty heart. (Ms)
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Sassy_Lady
6 years ago
Hi all, I am 17yrs older than my partner, I absolutely love him and the way he makes me feel. Still 25 in my mind. I am not his Sugar mumma, and he can stand on his own 2 feet. I would not support him or his family financially. There is heaps of older ladies with younger gents, I think it's great. I'm not attracted to Asian men personally, but each to their own.
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RHP User
6 years ago
Only younger 😈 that’s for sure
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Tall74nHard9
6 years ago
Typo or subtraction error ? Tall
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RHP User
6 years ago
Sry but Asian men are just not very appealing to me, they are usually shorter and are sometimes accustomed to subservience from their women. Although there was once a boy I knew called Won Hung Low, but he turned out to be an exageration
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AnnieWhichway
6 years ago
Quoting 'MsJonesy' You need to serve wine on the side for posts like that. 🍷🍷 Shouldn't drink and post l say.
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0z_boy
6 years ago
I'll drink to that! :D But I will drink to anything though :p 🍸🍸🍸🍸🍸🍸🍸🍸🍸
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RHP User
6 years ago
If you like to experience young, intelegent, professional brown Asian, msg me. You don’t need to worry about attaining me a visa. Fk stereotyping! I am available for fun!
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RHP User
6 years ago
I was married to an Aussie women my age, now I am a sugar daddy for young asian girls. I love them, really respectful, and generally comfortable with sex. I really like young asian girls, but they are not Thai mail order, they came here to get uni degrees and are from wealthy families. They are actually highly educated and hard working. I would go with an order women if she was into fun and sex, and not trying to get married.
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