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Is the swinging scene more shallow than people expected?

June 28 2018

Couple finding it hard to find another couple who approves of both. Always seems to be we like her and can she play alone with us? Answer is no we play as a couple and have had numerous mmf and one ffm but the couples scene seems harder to break into than we thought due to shallowness. We understand there must be some form or mutual attraction and more importantly for us a connection on a social level to put things at ease but isnt the whole idea of this site about meeting people for sex? Not having a go at woman or putting you all in the same genralistaion but seems to be the biggest deal breaker weather it be his looks or penis size or not being ripped and muscly. Before we give up our search thought we would just get clarification first.

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  • RHP

    RHP User

    6 years ago

    I like you both but not a couple 😔 - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    6 years ago

    I’m not a couple that is... not a woman either lol - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    6 years ago

    Any replies would be welcome 😁 - Posted from rhpmobile

  • Hottie1

    Hottie1

    6 years ago

    She’s your ‘selling’ point on your profile (yes mine is too, but I don’t want to change to a singles profile coz hubby isn’t playing and the validations support who I am), you’re perpetuating the things you’re fighting against. If you’re not getting traction, change it up, show case Mr in a different light. IMO though women tend to maintain a ‘better’ appearance than men. Women are the prize on a site like this, that’s the reality. We can be choosy and for me for example, I won’t ever take one for the team. If my pussy doesn’t throb for both of the couple - absolutely no way will it happen. It’s not shallow and nor do I make apologies for it. At a party or on this site, I feast with my eyes first, I have limited time and if the attraction isn’t ‘boom, crash, bang’ there isn’t a hope. I know in seconds if it’s going to happen for a couple, with me. I’m choosier with whom I have sex with than who my friends are or who I’m social with. If I’m going to suck a cock or lick a pussy, it’s going to be a damn fine one (that meets my standards) lol. Sorry to say, I’m not concerned about whether I’ve hurt your feelings, I’m more concerned about the couple being sexy to me and we have fun. Shallow Mary xx

  • RHP

    RHP User

    6 years ago

    Ok that's fair only asking for opinions but what would your suggestion be to showcasing in a different light? The only other qualities I could offer would be the fact I'm a very good chef but we didnt come here to cook for other people? I have not taken offence to your comment at all not hurt my feelings. But generally looking for either solid advise or if others have experienced the same. So actually looking for help as apparently the swingers community is a very open and welcoming place but we yet to see that. More criticism than constructive criticism - Posted from rhpmobile

  • Bazingal

    Bazingal

    6 years ago

    just because you (as a couple) don't fit what you're looking for does that make them shallow?

  • Bazingal

    Bazingal

    6 years ago

    People like what they likejust because you (as a couple) don't fit what they're looking for does that make them shallow?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    6 years ago

    I never said everyone just said from experience but thanks so far it seems I have not been proven wrong. Was hoping for more of a welcoming to the scene rather than criticisms - Posted from rhpmobile

  • MsJonesy

    MsJonesy

    6 years ago

    Real need to include pics of your partner in the public gallery. Dont make people ask for them, make it easy! He may not want to show his face and that is ok - your pics dont either. Also, perhaps include in your profile why you want to have a couples only experiences, and if you are happy for it to be straight swap..... in other words some of the 'rules' of your play with couples.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    6 years ago

    Thank you this is all I was after was some advice! And I feel our profile is pretty straight forward and detailed but guess not enough. We have not done the couples swap before but always because there is never interest in both of us - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    6 years ago

    Lol you say people are shallow yet you wanted ripped and a big penis! I wouldn’t meet a couple as a single if ones a smoker or one has a flabby ass. Does that make me shallow? I don’t think so I’m attracted to what I like Have fun here

  • RHP

    RHP User

    6 years ago

    When did it say we want ripped and big penis? Think you may need to re read this - Posted from rhpmobile

  • LetsFrolic

    LetsFrolic

    6 years ago

    Some people are picky on looks and others are picky on connection - Posted from rhpmobile

  • FredAndGinger2

    FredAndGinger2

    6 years ago

    Hi Harley n Jay Here's a few pointers if you're seeking to meet with couples:* Verify your profile* Load up pictures of your fella too* Go to social meets or other events where you can meet and chat face-to-face* Be more selective who you're adding as friends - seeing you connected to single guys 50+ could be a turn-off for some Otherwise, you have some really nice pics and a well-written profile. All the bestFred

  • JohnAnn2227

    JohnAnn2227

    6 years ago

    Hi, Are you only trying to meet people online or are you going to swinger clubs or house parties? In our experience it is much easier to meet and play with another couple at a club than meet online. At a club we can get to know the other couple over a few drinks and sometimes a personality can be the clincher as to whether I find someone attractive enough to play with. Also we find there is less pressure at a club or party than meeting couple to couple at a bar or restaurant. Good luck!

  • The_Antichrist

    The_Antichrist

    6 years ago

    Is sometimes ya gotta kiss a lot of toads to get your prince/princesses.... Patience is a virtue....it’s a much greater task to score a win on all levels when you’re trying to match 4 people instead of 2 or 3.... - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    6 years ago

    Quoting 'JohnAnn2227' Hi, Are you only trying to meet people online or are you going to swinger clubs or house parties? In our experience it is much easier to meet and play with another couple at a club than meet online. At a club we can get to know the other couple over a few drinks and sometimes a personality can be the clincher as to whether I find someone attractive enough to play with. Also we find there is less pressure at a club or party than meeting couple to couple at a bar or restaurant. Thanks this helps alot and we plan on very but we do want to go to parties and events but time is hard with work and family commitments so online was ideal to meet people first to meet up with but with no expectation of sex just to see if we hit it off but 99% of the time its always "can Harley play alone she is gorgeous" No she wont we are in this together and want to share the experience together Good luck!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    6 years ago

    Thank you and we are going to verify the profile when we get a chance lol and we used to be into the mmf seen but not now as we want something new. we would love to go to more social events but dont get that luxury of always being free.

  • Livingandloving2

    Livingandloving2

    6 years ago

    You have asked for advice so this is my 2 cents worth You state this is a sex sure so there must be a n attraction from both members of a couple you are trying to meet. It doesn’t make them shallow if their selection criteria is based on physical/ social/ emotional connection. At the end of the day every couple on here is aiming to satisfy their fantasy too, depending on their take of what floats their boat. Your post comes across as fairly entitled which won’t be attractive to many. My other pearl of wisdom is to be selective in how you respond to the people who have taken the time to answer your post. Because this is an online platform many couples lurk and trust me when I say lots of couples would cross you off their potential list if they get the feeling of entitlement or hostility from your responses. Mrs LAL - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    6 years ago

    thank you for your input and advice. I never intended any of the replies to come across entitled and sorry if they seem that way. Maybe i have worded it wrong from the beginning . Basically just looking for advise as to where its all going wrong and there are certain factors they have all been the same that have contributed for us being unsuccessful. We really have all intentions of meeting other people and playing but don't seem to get the chance and we totally understand everyone is going to have a preference which is fine we all do us included.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    6 years ago

    Apologies if we have offended anyone with the wording. Maybe shallow was not the best choice of words but cannot change it now. I just hope we havnt ruined any chances we had now and also hope we havnt been crossed off lists because of this as mentioned above. Was purely looking for help for beginners in the couple scene and as this is a public forum for many who attend parties which we would like to as well i hope we havent ruined our chances there aswll

  • Livingandloving2

    Livingandloving2

    6 years ago

    You will find a couple you click with. It just may take some time but good things come to those who wait :) Mrs LAL - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    6 years ago

    We are hoping it does eventually pay off and are being very patient just wish we could get the ball rolling lol

  • Seachange

    Seachange

    6 years ago

    Agree with Fred. Best is to attend meet and greets to expand your network and familiarise yourself with the swinging scene. Lots of parties out there catering for couples with or without expectations of play. Check out the Flirt events in Melbourne. They throw a fun, laid back and classy social meet and greets. Your preferences for play partners should be respected and vice versa. So not saying they are shallow, just finding the right mix of physical and mental connections. Just don't take it personally. All four of you should benefit in the experience. Keep on tracking. It's a numbers game. To help you out in your search, get your profile ready and up to scratch for your couples to peruse, your target audience. More pictures of you as a couple, not just yourself. As you said, if what you're peddling is the fact you play as a couple, well show them what you are offering as a couple. Nice and simple. You have good pics of yourself showing you to be an interesting and fun person. Now just get your man in the same frame of mind! 😉 This will make the decisions easier for all parties as cards are on the table. Minimise the guesswork. Best wishes. Hope you have fun â˜ș

  • madotara69

    madotara69

    6 years ago

    reckon it'd be awesome, a chef you say ? We could get real dirty in the kitchen, two girls sucking your cock while whipping up a personal favourite, my face looks much like my bum, but do you reckon both the girls could suck my cock too ? Victoria hey, appears to be the problem lol. Mado Mado Tara xx

  • FlirtParties

    FlirtParties

    6 years ago

    Thanks Lily for the wonderful comments about our events. We host couples/women social events approximately every 6 to 8 weeks. Simple, easy drinks nights in nice bars and clubs around Melbourne. All RHP verified couples and women are welcome. We have been told many times that the RHP verification process helps attendees feel more comfortable. If there is interest to do these social meets in places outside of Melbourne (I.e. country Victoria) then send us a message. Our next event is in Lorne for 13 couples in a hotel for two days of socialising and getting to know each other. We attended an awesome RHP event about two years. It was two nights in Bright with around 13 couples. This was such a great way for those of us that desire/need the social and friendship side of swinging before we feel comfortable with more intimate activities. Flirt xx - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    6 years ago

    Thank you we will defiantly look at adding more into the profile couple orientated pics may be the way to go. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • boobsandbusted

    boobsandbusted

    6 years ago

    WTF LILLY ,you agree with fred and this grrrrrr,lol * Be more selective who you're adding as friends - seeing you connected to single guys 50+ could be a turn-off for some i am proud of being 52 and in better shape than i have ever been ,i refuse to alter my age unlike many feel the need to ,so yes shallow comes in many different Ways .although id prefer to call it having likes and dislikes. and we are all entitled to them and to have them BOT for us it falls many different instant connection. through looks and. feelings ,oh hell yes black and white physical yes or no mental yes or no and add in above answer to complete the equation but more usually on the fence physical but enough to want to get to know them. and often they are the one who ends up it’s s big tick yes ps out some pics of the muster up and get verified mr b - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    6 years ago

    Thank you Mr b.... obvisuoy the main issues is not enough pics of the man which I guess is surprising as was just following at least 80% of profiles which are basically all about the woman but this has defiantly been an insight. And we will be verifying the profile so guess once we get all this done pur profile will be down for a bit while rhp approve it which sucks but maybe worth the wait. I guess the mr Jay just needs to not worry about outside judgment. He has plenty of confidence in person as is a very likable person and never has issues connecting with people but seems to have trouble online. Thanks again for the positive feedback - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    6 years ago

    I'm not into couples but you seem pretty genuine and straight up...maybe put pics of your man in there....your profile is pretty simple and to the point, sometimes less is more as some profiles are just a novel and go over the top..and it takes time meeting compatible people. Like the Antichrist says...gotta kiss a few toads lol...fk knows I have kissed my share haha...good luck girl...

  • boobsandbusted

    boobsandbusted

    6 years ago

    yes social gathering are a great way to meet face to face if not the best way , with very little pressure and exspectations on anyone lots of new people i t he same boat so you instantly have something in common , the flirt partys are a good one to give a go ,well organised and vetted with a good crowd who get along to them ,sometimes even let good old people sneak in ,,lol - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    6 years ago

    Thanks guys starting to feel better now with some solid advice all we were after. Hopefully we can get some invites now 😉 - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    6 years ago

    Your initial post says the guy isn’t ripped muscly or his penis size You need to read what you write lol I’m quoting you Maybe it’s the smoking too That’s a huge turn off for me

  • RHP

    RHP User

    6 years ago

    Sorry was ment as that's the replies we get the expectation they have of Mr jay and with out that they only want Harley. Maybe some quotation Mark's would help lol - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    6 years ago

    Also understand the smoking thing but being honest is good no?also I would be happy to not smoke for a whole night to meet up with a couple of they asked same as we tell people we dont fo drugs and dont like them being done around us. Do you think our chances might go from zero to something if I stopped smoking đŸ€” - Posted from rhpmobile

  • Seachange

    Seachange

    6 years ago

    I did not read anywhere in their OP or succeeding posts that they they specified 'Your initial post says the guy isn’t ripped muscly or his penis size' I suppose you were referring to their OP which I have partially quoted below. 'Not having a go at woman or putting you all in the same genralistaion but seems to be the biggest deal breaker weather it be his looks or penis size or not being ripped and muscly.' Nah. Far from it. You misread it and misunderstood their post and continue to deride them when they genuinely seek advice. Not sure why but not cool Imho. Just to help you out, they were seeking advice, being newbie like yourself, on understanding their lackluster response. I understood that they are questioning whether 'hooking up' successfully on a site like this is predicated or based mainly on One's (male/female/couple) being physical desirable such as beauty, height, fit body and well hung (male). Simple really. I may be wrong but happy to be corrected by the OP. And will apologize if I misunderstood, like a grown up I am.😉 Now back on topic....😎

  • Seachange

    Seachange

    6 years ago

    Not sure about not having 50+ people on my friends list. Lol. I'm not concerned if people judge me on having friends of certain age. More reflective of who they are and if they do, then I don't want to meet with them. So no drama. Hehe. Now you don't look a day over 49 and 2 months.😛. You and Mrs B were looking good last time I saw you and rocking it!!!!!! Your personality and warmth do stand out. Just perfect. Cheers big ears. 😘

  • Hottie1

    Hottie1

    6 years ago

    We’ve been here for nearly four years ... I gave up on trying to find a couple directly off here for a couples swap. The sexy couples we’ve played with and continue to when we get a chance (ps: I do cook for them ;) we met at house parties ... I’m not sure why we didn’t click with people directly on here, maybe because it was me instead of hubby doing the chatting and I didn’t put up with any bullshit or any princess bullshit (not making any reference here, just referencing my conversations) often it was the women who said no, because of me. We also didn’t have any rules and a lot of couples I chatted to, did. I find that really constricting and knew it was for either of us. Definitely give the more intimate house parties a go. In my earlier post I wasn’t referencing you guys when I commented on feelings, I was just writing as a stream of consciousness. I didn’t mean for any disrespect :) Even at house parties, a number of married men didn’t really put in a whole deal of effort. Im not saying your man doesn’t do this already but invest in some sexy underwear for him too, aftershave etc. and you’ll find that seeing you in real life may change the game for you. Good luck Mary

  • madotara69

    madotara69

    6 years ago

    Quoting 'Harley_N_Jay' Thanks guys starting to feel better now with some solid advice all we were after. Hopefully we can get some invites now 😉 - Posted from rhpmobile Last time flying from Brisbane to Sydney, it cost about $70 and about an hour flight. We are a couple, Tara has said 'the best sex she has had, has been with guys she was least attracted to in the beginning. Lucky we enjoy company with folk, great personalities make for the sexiest times anyhow. Tara has never asked a guy how big his cock is, We listened to a guy doing an interview on the radio a couple of days ago, he is a male escort, has a steady clientele of women who use his service, he spends a minimum of three hours with the women, he said of all his time a male escort, 1 woman asked about his cock size. Keeping that in mind, it's men who ask about cock size in most communications. If you were to take a look at some of the 'swinging' webcam sites, spend a little time viewing the couples broadcasting, you will be lucky to find any, maybe one or two couples playing together on cam. The other 36 pages of couples broadcasting are men masturbating, if you broadcast yourself's as a couple, you will find many couples contact you, wanting either play with the girl only, or Wife/partner is not actually with the guy, she is away working at the time, but fine with her guy playing up. Sure have her call, let the girls speak and organise things. There is not that many couples that have a woman in the relationship, you're probably mostly communicating with men, especially if asking cock size. IOHO. So if you like, call us speak with Tara, whizz up to Sydney on a jet plane, don't know when you will be back again' lol Well it's an invite never the less, sure's up the odds, lift the spirits. You guys might just doll yourselves up, well, I tend to make sure my pockets are in line with each other, then I know my buttons are done up evenly, And wow, all Tara does with this and that and that and this and kabaaaam, it all comes together from a billion combinations for choice and she nails it every time. We even got lost in each other strolling through the streets of Sydney on our way to a meet and greet, twice, Friday night and Saturday night a few years ago, we made it to mingle on both occasions and the folk from RHP, most regular to the forums, and real people, from all around the country, and it sure didn't seem that anyone was left for less than, by the look of them, everyone was hot, sexy and up to all sorts of mischief. Think we are still on topic. lol

  • RHP

    RHP User

    6 years ago

    Thank you all for the positive and constructive feed back. Not all hope is gone yet a little bit of that fire is still burning. Lily thank you for understanding the post correctly and hottie thank you for the sound advice and Jay is always well dressed and has amazing after shave I cant believe that some men don't take pride lol he is just a bit self conscious about other things that alot of us and in this day an age the world is full of not very nice people who think they are better than others and really deflates his self confidence when certain things are said and rarely gets compliments but we will get there and work on that. And mado thank you for the kind invite who knows just maybe one day but at the moment if we find a baby sitter and a weekend free we might try a house party or flirt party something a bit more laid back. I know alot have said there are heaps of them but for people who have never been and dont have connections it's very hard to find details and even get invited to such parties. Thanks all again to the ones who have actually helped - Posted from rhpmobile

  • daniel_bianca81

    daniel_bianca81

    6 years ago

    Guys get in touch with us 👌 - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    6 years ago

    Yeah, I can't help but wonder if that's why we have had quite a few catfish; upgrade cancellation is my suspicion. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    6 years ago

    All people have preferences, and some are more strict than others when looking to hook up. That isn't being shallow or discriminatory- it is purely a matter of what turns one person on may not turn on another. I don't know why anyone would expect a swinger event to hold diff standards. It's not an open orgy or free for all. Swingers are normal folks with fetishes, fantasies and likes and dislikes just like everyone else. I attend swingers parties, usually alone, but I have attended with a previous partner and he was not as hot a commodity on the night as I was. I see that a LOT. It is not uncommon. Perhaps it was that he wasn't the people's cup of tea, or maybe it has to do with many males preferring F2F contact and the female in that couple wants to please her guy more than try a new male sex partner out? So many variables. Who knows what floats everyone's individual or dual boats? If you do play with a couple on your own, what's to stop you all getting together after a few play dates and easing into a foursome? It can happen. These things sometimes take time. That said, I see no pics of your guy on your profile (maybe they are for paid only and I have a guest account?) but adding a few certainly wouldn't hurt! Best of luck and sexy travels to you x - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    6 years ago

    The couples scene can be rife with imbalances such as the desires of both members of the couple and the dynamic on who is who within the couple.... my experience when I was a couple personally and what I saw in others.... desire is a multifaceted thing so maybe try something that relies less on the visual aspect only.... not saying anyone is unattractive it's only that I've been told a few time that pics don't do me justice so I hope this may help😉 - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    6 years ago

    Everything in this scene/lifestyle is about presentation & personality. Put your best representation of yourself forward. Think about your photos. -what’s in the background? - personal hygiene and maintenance - your underwear When it comes to conversing with a potential meet, think about your language and the text that you use. I’ve walked away from a potential meet by the language they’ve used. (Youse, man, mate and incorrect spelling are not attractive) Radiate a sense of confidence without being arrogant & most of all keep it classy. Good things take time.... XXX - Posted from rhpmobile

  • swingalingson

    swingalingson

    6 years ago

    Guys it says on your forum response message..I am a guy. I have been trying to get in touch with you. But you dont answer back. Plus on your profile it does not list you are looking for a male. Guys get in contact contact with us. Well I am trying to contact you two. P.S can I play with Bianca while you sit on the couch and watch. Then we will decide if you can join in the fun for mfm. Lol Contact me back please J. K. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • FUCKONFIRSTDATE

    FUCKONFIRSTDATE

    6 years ago

    Hi as you can see, post anything on here and the trolls come out and attack, after a while you see the same people taking any thing you say and turning into a opportunity to look like they are superior. Basically they are mostly ageing women, who because some guys will do any thing for a fuck, have come to think there is some thing special about them, one even says your being superior, then goes on to say how fussy she is and she is 51, so probably 56 the people she describes she wants, would have to be desperate or not fussy oh and the soft cocks who think by agreeing with them they might get tossed a bone. I have read what you have been writing, and by now you must be thinking, its not what I am saying, its like they are reading things I am not writing? No its not you, its them. Every one of them admits to being over 40 most are actually closer to 50 or 60, and some are even men claiming to be women. Your biggest mistake was being 24, lol it makes the trolls angry and twitchy. ANY WAY WATCH THE HAG PATROL GO BALLISTIC OVER THIS HAHAHAHAHA., But not a problem for us, my missus doesn't touch fat old women any way :) Oh and neither do I. TROLLS KNOCK YOUR SELVES OUT this gives you at least a weeks work slagging me BUT LEAVE THESE PEOPLE ALONE, OR POST SOME THING HELPFUL.

  • eroarts

    eroarts

    6 years ago

    I believe your profile is well written and clear as. Surprising the number of couples who get in touch where it turns out the guy only wants to "meet". But hey, chance is actually pretty cool. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • HotNightsGC

    HotNightsGC

    6 years ago

    Your profile is very straight forward and honest which is what we usually look for. Totally agree that you should get verified and up the pics for Mr. And we do agree with you to a point about some people being shallow. But.... Keeping in mind that we’re on a sex site and also remembering what we all are ultimately looking for is the best connection possible, shallowness is really part of what you’ll get in the process. Yes, there are some (or many) on here who consider themselves to be God’s gift. You’ll always run into those kinds of people anywhere. The great part is that you’ll also meet and most likely make a small group of friends that you get to know well and trust. Quoting Anarchist Is sometimes ya gotta kiss a lot of toads to get your prince/princesses.... Patience is a virtue....it’s a much greater task to score a win on all levels when you’re trying to match 4 people instead of 2 or 3.... Very true. It takes a while to find your place with other couples. It isn’t easy to match a group of 4 people with all different ideas about what they want. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    6 years ago

    It’s usually, they only want a girl, or they’re bi curious. I’m tired of sharing our photos to get a reply that they’re looking for something different. It’s a blow to the self confidence. and I do realise everyone has a “type” - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    6 years ago

    Thabks again in everyone and yes patience patience patience lol but after 3 years patience wears thin but still not giving up! We were members for a long time but endless messages going no where was pointless and paying basically to see dick pics was not worth $40 a month! We are genuine we are real and actu as lily after reading some comments would like to clarify our age is real. We are young and that may be the issue. Heaps of couples love the idea of a 24 year old woman especially men but being a 30 year old man is like being classed as an inexperienced teenager in this community which sucks. We really thought the swingers scene would be alot more open and welcoming. Dont get us we wrong some wonderful answers and helpful singles and couples have replied to the thread which is fantastic. But still the inbox and flirts remain pretty dry lol if any couple wants a real conversation not just ",hey shes hot" or "wanna meet up" let us know 😀 - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    6 years ago

    I think each to there own its what people are into. We are a couple and only meet with females and thats my choice. I find it very hard to find a women to have fun with us. Maybe its our looks or maybe its what im looking for either way thats what attracts me. Everyone is different and nobody is at fault if they are attracted to you or not. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    6 years ago

    Battle it out. There are many amazing genuine couples out there. Some you all click with, and some you don't for different reasons. 1/5 is our average, even after talking online before meeting. Honesty and being upfront is the big thing and not feeling pressured to play if everyone isn't happy. Plenty of fish in the sea. We plan it as a nice dinner out. Playing is a bonus and never expected. Once you've got a regular bunch of friends it's far more enjoyable. The big thing that annoys us are couples that had no intention of ever playing together and arc up when we say it's a combined deal. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • readyplayerthree

    readyplayerthree

    6 years ago

    Hey guys. Geez what a read this was.. One last thing to add could be a note on your profile saying that you only play as a couple. From here on out, you will know who is being selective and who is being disrespectful of your relationship. I think that will give you the closure you need 😘 - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    6 years ago

    Thanks again everyone have updated some more pics with Mr let's see if it helps - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    6 years ago

    Ok our profiles are like a resume for work, you have to put your best foot forward and describe who you both are and what you’re looking for. It took us ages to word ours exactly right and as a result it attracted people to us that shared similar interest and world views :) with the male side maybe lose the cap and dress in something nice and look like you’re making an effort. First impressions count :) maybe take an artistic shot or showcase something he likes about himself (I put up a photo of my shoulders and tattoo) shows I’m big and I have tattoos. If you want I can edit some photos for you guys for your profile and if you were in Brisbane we definitely would’ve taken you guys out for a drink. Keep plugging away guys you will soon meet people on the same wavelength. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    6 years ago

    I agree with Shallow Mary. If I'm going to play with someone other than my husband, I want him to be at least as hot as him. I'm choosy that way. I'm not looking for another partner, just someone I'm going to enjoy being physical with. The problem with most couples profiles is it's all about her. There's rarely full body shots of the guy. If you're only selling her pics, she's going to get all the attention. My hubby has just as many pics as me. It's equal. Our solution is to generally go with singles...it's just easier that way. Otherwise you just need to be VERY patient and find the right people for you. Swingers meets are probably your best option as already suggested. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    6 years ago

    Here's hoping lol and thanks for the advice and kind words only uploaded more pics of him last night but obviously wrong ones 🙄 - Posted from rhpmobile

  • Dirtyandfriendly

    Dirtyandfriendly

    6 years ago

    I get what you are asking, the best advice I can give you is there are a lot of idiots online and a lot seem to think they are entitled to what they want , not what you want. A while ago we were finding another girl for my fuck buddy and the effort was tiring. We clearly stated we both play together, but the female wanted her alone and did not want me involved, despite clear communication we don't play alone. Finding men was easy just decent ones was the trouble. Couples the problem is both parties need to be attracted, I was much older than my friend so that was a deal breaker for most. Finding decent couples or singles is very difficult, in my experience anyway. You deal with fakes, time wasters and effortless people. My friend didn't like the events due to her nature of her job and was very shy. my advice is update your profile making it perfectly clear neither of you will play alone in this, include pics of him and you together. Someone will come along, but it gets frustrating looking, to us we didn't think it would be so difficult but again it's the internet.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    6 years ago

    And to add to that spike he honestly doesn't know what he likes about himself on the outside as it's rare for a compliment to be sent his way but boosting his self esteem online is something we e are working on but has no issues in person as most people take to him very quickly but to him Its hard to show a great sense of humor and intelligence on the outside. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    6 years ago

    Our process for has many steps: 1. Check out pics and age with fudge factor > 37 2. Overall photo quality, ie some effort taken to take them 3. Dude pics? If none/ not enough then move on 4. Profile details relate to us - well written profile with good grammar, spelling, articulation of personal desires and qualities that we can personally relate to? 5. Height check - dude taller than wife with 3cm fudge factor 6. Estimation of likely socioeconomic status, IQ, EQ, personal culture match (we are mainstream for example) 7. Make contact - 90% fizzle rate 8. Go to kik - 50% fizzle rate 9. Orbit for months Worth objectively and critically looking at your profile in context of the potential failure points? - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    6 years ago

    Hi Harley and Jay, we're in a similar situation as I'd assume most couples are on here. Being honest and upfront with wants and desires can leave the other couple feeling rejected but it really just takes time. If you're honest in your profile and word it so that a couple will know what to expect should they meet and play with you both. We found that we chat with lots of couples on here then meet a few of them then play with only a couple of those couples. It's a numbers game and if you knock on enough doors someone will let you in, just hope when they do you like them both as well. But definitely add more pics of him, I find almost all women attractive but my wife only finds a few men attractive so allowing other couples ease of selection will help. Xx - Posted from rhpmobile

  • Dirtyandfriendly

    Dirtyandfriendly

    6 years ago

    Quoting 'Harley_N_Jay' And to add to that spike he honestly doesn't know what he likes about himself on the outside as it's rare for a compliment to be sent his way but boosting his self esteem online is something we e are working on but has no issues in person as most people take to him very quickly but to him Its hard to show a great sense of humor and intelligence on the outside. - Posted from rhpmobile Unfortunately on the internet looks are the first impression. Science wise people make a judgement call 7 seconds on whether they find someone attractive or not. People are very judgemental :(

  • RHP

    RHP User

    6 years ago

    Show ur middle finger to the cpls that asking u to play alone..... such people are assholes as they already know u r a Cpl shd still they talk cheap.... - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    6 years ago

    Just wondering so many have said need a detailed direct profile. Just wondering what have we missed? Compared to many profiles which just use templates to us ours seems pretty detailed and to the point. Are we missing something? - Posted from rhpmobile

  • Hottie1

    Hottie1

    6 years ago

    Look at you, strangling your little cock, greatly reducing the amount of blood going up to the grey matter. You’re the same vintage as the people you criticise, that’s a little ironic. Mate, let’s be honest, if you didn’t have that gorgeous woman of yours, you’d stand no chance of a couple swap. The dickheads are out today. FFS!!!!! Mary (fat, fifty and fucking) xx

  • RHP

    RHP User

    6 years ago

    It is always going to get harder to get a couple as you need chemistry between 4 people which ad complexity but the advice above about going to meet and greet is a good one. Maybe go to couple swingers party too as then you will have few options and everyone is there for the same purpose

  • RHP

    RHP User

    6 years ago

    Any more tips and advice is very welcome but I guess to sum it up from what's been given would be we need to 1. Try and make Mr jay look more appealing somehow which is the hard part as especially with men they are the way they are as cannot cover up with lots of makeup and maybe spend the next 12months grinding it out at the gym. And secondly a party when we find the time to see how we go there to lift some confidence. Also we will verify our account sooner than later but haven't done as we thought you had to have someone else do it so for the last 3 years and no meets it hasnt happened. Thanks again everyone we hope to be welcomed in the scene. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • thinwhiteline

    thinwhiteline

    6 years ago

    Ausphil if you get this contact us. Your neighbor (green Ute) 0484635756 - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    6 years ago

    I am no expert, but i do know this. Guys need to display an effort, a point of difference. Clearly you (female) have made an effort. Your partner however looks as though he lost his job and grandmother on same day. If you really scanned through pics without bias you would see it. Absolutely no judgement into male but look at it from outside. So not sexy. Go artistic, mystery, dark. Clearly not your best look dude. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • madotara69

    madotara69

    6 years ago

    Quoting 'Hottie1' We’ve been here for nearly four years ... I gave up on trying to find a couple directly off here for a couples swap. The sexy couples we’ve played with and continue to when we get a chance (ps: I do cook for them ;) we met at house parties ... I’m not sure why we didn’t click with people directly on here, maybe because it was me instead of hubby doing the chatting and I didn’t put up with any bullshit or any princess bullshit (not making any reference here, just referencing my conversations) often it was the women who said no, because of me. We also didn’t have any rules and a lot of couples I chatted to, did. I find that really constricting and knew it was for either of us. Definitely give the more intimate house parties a go. In my earlier post I wasn’t referencing you guys when I commented on feelings, I was just writing as a stream of consciousness. I didn’t mean for any disrespect :) Even at house parties, a number of married men didn’t really put in a whole deal of effort. Im not saying your man doesn’t do this already but invest in some sexy underwear for him too, aftershave etc. and you’ll find that seeing you in real life may change the game for you. Good luck MaryWriting from a stream of consciousness, Penny for your thoughts Mary.... I don't wear underwear, my shirt buttoned up with the pockets even is my swagger, although, for you, now knowing you are partial to sexy underwear, Just wondering whether you might stream again of consciousness, if I were to put it to you and for you Mary, because you are an awesome hot hottie hotwife, please pass on a hello to hubby, ...streaming, yes.. if I wore a loin cloth and you could just rip open my shirt, pop the buttons, i'd find them later and can sew buttons, I have a little button sewing kit, fits in my pocket, Tara made up for me, quite handy.It would be fair to say, not wearing underwear otherwise, not necessarily a deal breaker as there ain't no rules with you Mary, like all bars held and no holes barred kind of thing too, so hot.. now I'm streaming of consciousness...But I'm an angel

  • RHP

    RHP User

    6 years ago

    I with u had same problem when i was in a relationship n meeting as couple pritty shit evry one on here says there non judgemental and open mined lol not exatly the case any way you guys r hott love your outfit gorgeous good luck hope u have more luck maybe try swingers club i found that to be great just meet n play as a couple with a couple - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    6 years ago

    The online swinging scene is “selective” read shallow. Usually meeting in a club setting people aren’t so “selective” as it becomes based more on the connection rather than the stats. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    6 years ago

    its a shame we live north of nowhere we'd ask you over every friday xo - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    6 years ago

    I find it hard to meet people from mine area.... Maybe it not a big thing around here but have many profile in mine area . Any suggestions??? Mine profile not good? Would love to hear from you what we do wrong. Kind regards - Posted from rhpmobile

  • TJack

    TJack

    6 years ago

    We find a lot of profiles that have many pics both face & body of the female but either nothing of the male- or just a cock pic. For us we both need to be attracted to both parties or it’s a no go. We have a fantastic sex life so if this doesn’t add to it- why would we bother. Our profile is honest & up front not only with pics but also with what we are looking for. Saves wasting anyone’s time-& if we don’t appeal to ppl- that’s not their problem, nor ours it’s just how it is- can’t be offended in this type of thing. If ppl don’t wish to share honest pics- we tend to wonder why. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    6 years ago

    Thanks again all this has been a huge eye opener and it's nice to get positive feed back and people who understand. Even if you are in another state or in Victoria and want to message or send a flirt geel free. We are happy to chat with anyone any experience is and experience. We may be young but can guarantee we may have more experience than others not with couples but with other sexual partners and desires. And we are non judgmental yes we all have preferences but we are willing to at least get to know people first before we make a decision. Happy hunting everyone! Harley and Jay xoxoxo - Posted from rhpmobile

  • 3someparties

    3someparties

    6 years ago

    Sad but true. No matter how much you change up your profile you simply don’t meet the majority of womens/couples standards for a play partner on this site. They are extremely spoilt for choice and will almost always shop in the better specimen section as RHP is largely a visual attraction based medium. Only thing to do is actually get out there and meet people and hope you can somehow manage to make a connection that way. Sorry to be harsh but it’s the truth of the matter. Don’t worry, there are many of us in the same boat. It is what it is.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    6 years ago

    Hey I have found this site not full of shallow people at all. The men and one couple we've met with are now our regulars and are invited back anytime they want another all nighter 😉 we stay in touch and meet up whenever possible. I haven't come across any disrespectful, shady, or shallow people and i think thats because when i wrote the profile i was straight up and to the point...... However am i classed as shallow when all i want is nsa cock or pussy buffet but they must be attractive and fit..... fit because i literally go for hours and hours and if your not fit you wont be invited back.... i dont expect 6 packs but you must be fit because i demand stamina!!! If that makes me shallow then who wants to come swimming in the shallow end 😉??? Op good luck with your search - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    6 years ago

    Personally when looking at profiles if there is no face photos we don't go there. No matter how well written the profile may be. Sure sexy pictures are nice and all but we wanna see who we are talking too and face photos help us establish if we find you attractive. To me personally when i see photos where only 1 of the peoole have their face showing its a red flag to me. Mr spice is bit more forgiving and willing to give a chance than I am. So why is there no face photos of mrs and only of you? - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    6 years ago

    I dont know if my comments as a single woman are either relevant or welcome here, but i find your observations of the couples swinging scene interesting. Not intending on offending you personally, however, i find couples just annoying. I'm often approached and spoken to only by the male, stuffed around, flaky communication etc. I end up feeling like I am standing in line alongside a bunch of hookers and they are just picking and choosing as they please. I dont feel they respect my time and they only show an interest when it suits them time wise. I derive more enjoyment from speaking to single males. At least they try to get to know me. Personally i am not concerned by dick size. I think it is overrated and isnt an immediate indicator of sexual performance. Hands are better anyway??? Nor do I car if a guy isnt ripped. It is quite saddening to see that men are feeling under so much pressure to be muscly. As far as im concerned as long as they dont have dangly man boobs im not fussed. On the same token oversized pecs scream ego to me and I actually dont like large muscles.. Now large thighs I like, but that doesnt mean i expect them to be ripped...Just you know those footballers yummm Just saying..... Meat on a man is sexy and just says he is human.. I'd rather have a threesome with two single people not a couple...You aren't alone here in noting superficial expectations.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    6 years ago

    We have face pics in out private gallery as most do plus other pics. Only just added picture of Jay from advice from this forum - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    6 years ago

    4 way attraction is so hard to find - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    6 years ago

    Xanthea we would more say near impossible to find even on a website completely about swinging 🙄 - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    6 years ago

    I sort of know the feeling... I've had alot of attention/messagers from single men wanting me. Clearly it states we are a couple. You want one then you get the other! Also FYI i think your fine! 😊 - Posted from rhpmobile

  • sensualplay

    sensualplay

    6 years ago

    Adding a 4th person into the mix does make it more complex than a 3 some ... but not complicated... it just means everyone needs to be consensual with not just connection and attractiveness but also in the same page for desires. It is very rare to meet people on the same page here as a couple even for 3 some experiences. To be honest with have a lot more ease with known friends who would never dream of being on these sites. This is because we already know them and that they would be in the same page. Mrs here is very discerning and particular about what experiences she is willing to be in a shared space. Where as Mr has a broader taste of desires in shared experiences and more often plays on his own with others. We are all different even with in a couple. We think it's worth taking time and being discerning because if things are not mutually satisfying then it ends up mediocre and who wants to take time out of their lives for that. Taking the time and being honest leads to experiences that are extraordinary and delicous beyond the everyday. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • OkeyDoke45

    OkeyDoke45

    6 years ago

    I had a look at your profile, which I rarely do with people posting on here, and it looks okay to me. Just commenting to the bit in your blurb where you talk about people not thinking you are interested just because you appear to have looked at their profile. You can go in to your account settings and change it so that you do not show up as having looked at somebody's profile, even if you actually have. Does that make sense?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    6 years ago

    Your profile does not sell your man in any sexual way, except that 'sex maniac' is listed as a characteristic. After several photos of your woman, scantily clad, it would be nice to see some of the 'sex maniac' showing from your man. As well as some pics if the complete package of the two of you, because after all, that is the product you are wanting people to buy into. Again in your description, while she is 'flirty', he can 'cook' - what are his sexual attributes? What makes him different, or what makes the two of you as a couple, different to the endless number of others. I dont go searching for couples, but if one came along that offered something significantly different to all the rest, then I am open to the opportunity. Get creative, throw both of you in the spotlight, not only as individuals, but as the package deal you are wanting to sell. I wish you the best of luck. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    6 years ago

    Thabks again everyone and we will look into the settings. And thanks sweet 😘 - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    6 years ago

    We have taken everyone's advice and added more couple friendly photos and a more descriptive version of both of us. Thanks to all that helped hope we get to find a couple one day who likes us 😁 - Posted from rhpmobile

  • Aussie_Cpl

    Aussie_Cpl

    6 years ago

    We have only just come into the swinging scene and only been on rhp for a few weeks.. but i completely agree.. and to be honest its hard on a guy.. i really do feel for them.. its easy for girls (this coming from a girl) we are the selling point..we dont have as much to think about when it comes to sex.. some of us can go as long as we want.. but guys have so much to think about.. we get a little taken back by all the buff big cocked men on here so we completely understand..we just want a laid back couple who dont judge on appearences and more about having fun - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    6 years ago

    We know exactly what you are talking about. For him, he just looks at the woman in the couple because he's not interacting physically with the other man. She has the harder task of being attracted to both. She is never going to take one for the team. You are attracted to what you're attracted to. Some are much more picky than others but that's their prerogative. For us it's not about penis size or slim and athletic bodies. It's about an initial attraction from the photo's we see. We find most people we connect with via chatting end up just ending the conversation with 'you guys are not for us' which comes from absolutely nowhere after a good steady flow of conversation. We are not always available when others are. That's just life. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    6 years ago

    Thanks and we do get it and understand it just went a little deeper than first anticipated. Rejection is one thing and something Jay is used to but when you are being asked to separate the fun so he missus out is not nice and not something we are willing to do. I guess that's why we have not attended parties if rejection is so high online and makes him feel bad not sure how it would be at a party when our intentions would be to meet like minded people and have fun but fun for all not just one. But in saying that guess we will never know till we find out and maybe one day get a genuine offer after 3 years of searching. So far this thread has helped us alot and we have taken the advice and changed the profile and added more pics as a couple and of him but still remains the same. Alot more views but most flirts we send are always thanks but no thanks or some are messages saying thanks we appreciate it but no thanks for various reasons weather be not for us, not old enough etc. In saying that its amazing how many responses we have had with Jay being to young at 30 yet happy to take Harley who is only 24? We will keep persisting though maybe it will work one day and we can loose those V plates for a couples swing. 😉 - Posted from rhpmobile

  • curiousgirl35

    curiousgirl35

    6 years ago

    Im new to this all but hey,at least youre getting some interest which is more than i can say đŸ€Ł - Posted from rhpmobile

  • ozmelbcpl4cpl2

    ozmelbcpl4cpl2

    6 years ago

    Very hard to match 4 people not just in looks but needs as well. A good and a fully completed profile is the key .the more information cpls get the better..looks can be important but thats not the thing that will get you through .personality wins hands down.if you're select about what youre needs are you need to find cpls with the same outlook.an opened mind to new adventures is the key without compromising youre goals. Men of the cpls need to meet half way with expectations if they want to think its all about both of them and not inclusive of all fours needs - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    6 years ago

    We have tried and updated everything with all the advice we have been given. I dont know what else we can and yet most response is still the same! Harley only or sorry not interested! It's like looking for a job that you're qualified for with no experience..... no one is willing to give you a chance! - Posted from rhpmobile

  • FredAndGinger2

    FredAndGinger2

    6 years ago

    You still need to verify your couples profile otherwise you look like all the other fake profiles. A verified profile is a huge decision point for us.. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    6 years ago

    Ok we get that but adding another 8 pictures and heaps actaully togehtor differnt times and differnt scenarios doesnt count? If we were fake we would post pictures of picture perfect models and a man with abs and muscles and a 9inch cock which seem all any one wants. Why would we waste our time posting pictures of people who do not fit everyone's expectations? And in saying that where does that get anyone? How do you meet someone or somecouple with fake pics? Makes no sense they are going to pick you out in a second? - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    6 years ago

    Quoting 'FredAndGinger2' You still need to verify your couples profile otherwise you look like all the other fake profiles. A verified profile is a huge decision point for us.. - Posted from rhpmobile Yup, agreed and same here. Every single time we've had our time wasted, had someone's female half suddenly fall ill before meeting (male half was willing to meet by himself though *eyeroll*), had a male pretending to be a couple and all the other nonsense that fakes do, have 100% been from an unverified profile. It's now a non-negotiable point for us. It costs nothing and takes you all of 5 mins to do, if you're a real couple

  • RHP

    RHP User

    6 years ago

    Seems like a waste of time making all that ground work as a "fake" couple to even bother trying to swing yourself in as a single male. Not denying some probably do but why? We wouldnt fall for that either verified or not. Yes it is only 5 mins but finding 5 mins with out kids in the picture and both of you working opposite shifts and days its actaully hard to find 5 mins alone with both in the right mind frame to do so - Posted from rhpmobile

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