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Married and attached men?

November 03 2010

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I understand that a great deal of women would object to embarking on a sexual relationship with a married guy, no matter how short or intense and I also realise there would be a mine field of guy on here pretending to be unattached, but I would like to know if many women are comfortable with sleeping with a married guy and how they view guys that are married or attached.Women don't seem to be condemned for looking on RHP half as much as guys do. It seems quite acceptable for a women to explain she's in a sexless marriage or simply has a higher libido and that seems adequate explanation!, how come in this situation it's more acceptable for a woman to seek sex outside of her relationship.So from a womans point of view, would you do it and how many of you have been with a married guy? on top of that, was it enjoyable and would you do it again?.

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  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    I agree with "Secretfuntime".A lot of women I have contacted who are married either dont reply or say they wont play with a married guy.What is it ladies? Please explain to us married guys?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    In my opinion, regardless of your gender if you're seeking sex outside of the marriage and your partner does not know, it's unacceptable. I imagine it would open up Pandora's box. I can understand the need to fulfill sexual desires, if you're not getting any sex. But... i'm sure there is a lot that could be discussed with your partner / wife before you decide to make a profile on RHP. You know, communicate n' stuff In regards to women feeling comfortable sleeping with married / attached men, It depends on the women in question. Everyone has different needs and wants. Personally, I wouldn't have sex with a married / attached man unless his wife / partner was aware. Having said that, affairs happen and they can be enjoyable... apparently.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    sounds like your compiling a shopping list ... Hands up laddies who will fuck a married man so I can take a list

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Honestly 'secretfuntime' I view it as wrong from either side, whether it be a female or male... if you are 'happily married' you shouldn't need to seek out sex elsewhere (swinging is different) most cheaters on here DO pretend to be single, if you're not getting what you need from your husband/wife/partner.. LEAVE them! don't cheat!! it's morally wrong to do so... how would you feel if it was the other way round and your loved one was doing the cheating???

  • xFunlovingx

    xFunlovingx

    14 years ago

    There was a woman on here a while ago who posted about having affairs as she was married and was on here without her hubby knowing. OMG did that poor woman cop it, and who did she cop it off? Mostly women!! Sad really, as she used to go into chat and was such a nice person and unfortunately she left after all the abuse she copped on here. I don't condemn anyone for having an affair, I have always said that it must be hard for them to have that very first one and to even come to the decision of having one. I am not in your shoes or anyone else's shoes and will not judge anyone having an affair. Now to the question posted. Yes, I have had affairs with married men, 2 long term affairs. One was for 2 years and one for 4 years! Would I do it again? Hmm depends on the guy that I met and if the Chemistry is there. Both of my long term affairs were from real life and not from meeting on here. One was my very young Manager in a place I worked in and another one I met at a Nightclub. Did I enjoy it? Yes, very much as both men became my best friends as well and it wasn't all about the sex! Although the sex was the funnest part hehe. I have just read a book that I love "Act like a Lady Think like a Man"....Chapter 3 is titled "The 3 things every man needs" ...Support, Loyalty and the Cookie!! In that Chapter he says that no matter how much a man loves his wife/partner..if he ain't getting the "Cookie" then he will go out and find it elsewhere. To read that Chapter makes a whole heap of sense! Don't worry about people that put you down, they don't know what you are going through in your marriage. If you leave your wife (as alot say you should), they don't know how much you as a male will lose (as we all know that the Courts are always on the woman's side)! Enjoy life, Enjoy sex... xFunlovingx

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Hey XfunlovingX,i believe your answer or explanation is the most down to earth and non blinkered i have read so far.I other words i read your message as ' he/she who has walked a thousand mile in my shoes can judge me'We all have our reasons.I for one do not judge.karma will bring the reward.Cheers

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Do you remember the day you stood in front of your wife to be and said, I do? Did you really mean it, or did you think, it doesn"t count if she doesn't find out. I would bet you were the only one standing there lying. As a women I would never tread on someones relationship. If your not happy with your marriage , BALE no matter what it costs. Perhaps you should look at what is wrong with your marriage and change the way you have sex with your partner. Perhaps your lovely wives find your sex boring. Try something simple like a blind fold, instead of turning the light out, and engage the senses.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    It is a personal thing - I am not interested in married or attached men. Not only is it bad karma it is just too hard to keep a "thing" going. I am not into one night stands as a rule - would rather have a good thing going and the truth is I guess ultimately I would like to find Mr Right (yes I know this is a sex site blah blah) So there is no point being with a married or attached man. But I have learnt not to judge. A friend of mine is only into married men and the stories she has told me has made me realise that there are lots of men out there who still love their wives but are just not getting what they need from the relationship - namely intimacy and not necessarily just sex either. Some couples have not had sex for YEARS! So I have learnt that you can't judge anyone but personally I am not interested. Except for WOWWOW your posts always make me laugh - so you can put me on your fuck list. LOL xxxxx Meeka

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    "Walk a mile in another's shoes..." Before everyone gets on their high horse about infidelity, just back up and remember that you do not know peoples personal circumstances... Just because someone is married doesn't mean they are happily married. If they were, the seperation rates and divorce rates would not be through the roof...sometimes people in unhappy marriages seek comfort or something different from outside...whether they do it out in the open with their partner's consent or behind their back is an issue for the married couple and perhaps the person they play with. Whilst I don't condone people doing it behind their partners back (it's happend to me and it's awful) we should not be so quick to judge others. Again, voicing the opinion that "they should just get a divorce" doesn't take into account the couples personal circumstances either. What about marriage guidance ? Sex therapy ? One could ask the same question of swingers...if they are so happy, why do they seek to swap partners and play with others ? The answer is, it's their business and there may be a multitude of reasons. In my case it's because we are comfortable and trusting enough of each other to enjoy the company of others without retribution. In fact it spices up our relationship. But do we tell each other the who's, when's and intimate details ? No, because that's the way we like it. It's our personal business and only the people IN the relationship get it. So, whilst I encourage debate on an interesting topic, go easy on the criticisms and imposing your morals on other people unless you know the individual circumstances. Dogism.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    My hand is up!!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    My ex hubby cheated on me...I have felt that pain . Thankfully we now have moved passed that and are great friends. I would never touch a married or attached man. Just to assist him? No way! I would like to one day find that special partner and I would not dream of going near some other woman's man to find that special man for me. Just wrong! sweetpetite41

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Quoting 'Meeka100' It is a personal thing - I am not interested in married or attached men. Not only is it bad karma it is just too hard to keep a "thing" going. I am not into one night stands as a rule - would rather have a good thing going and the truth is I guess ultimately I would like to find Mr Right (yes I know this is a sex site blah blah) So there is no point being with a married or attached man. Can I clarify I know there is no such thing as Mr Right what I meant was a relationship with a good man. Is that too much to ask????

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    You know funlovin I totally agree about the cookie. I have a few girlfriends who have sex with their husbands at Christmas and on their birthday. I think it is absolutely terrible - and as they have both told me what would I know I have not been in a relationship for 20 years +. But what do the women think will happen. If you ask them do you think he is getting it somewhere else they are absolutley horrified at the thought. I mean when did their husbands needs become so unimportant?????????? Sorry I am ranting - but it something I just can not get my head around. xxx Meeka

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Its all about absolute honesty. I am married (very happily) but am in an open marriage. Life is about enjoying to the fullest and having no regreats when its over. I totay understand when a woman says they are not interested in a married man, and completely respect that, that is her choice. I believe that it is important to be honest with the people your are chatting to and be upfront with your situation. There is no point in bullshit, as it will always come back and bite you in the arse. So secretfuntime my tip to you is to be completely honest with your situation and you may be lucky enough to stumble accross people that dont have an issue with what you are looking for, and always gracefully accept the knockbacks that you may and will come across along the way. Most women have a strong view or opinion on what is acceptable to them, whether they believe its right or wrong to play with a married or attached man, and that opinion is usually pre programmed passionately into their mind, and nothing you can say or do will change that. Smile be polite and accept that that is the way it is. Keep ur chin up, and enjoy the weird and wonderful ride that is RHP.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    There are just too many fish in this sea to bother with married men - even though I am married. But my husband knows I do this. I've played with married men and it was just too much work. The fact that he was having an affair was exciting but scary at the same time. But with married men the when and where are just too much hard work.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Thanks for bothering to reply even if you do or don't condone playing outside of marriage. I asked because I copped some abuse from a woman who was happy to play with swingers but backed up her argument that if I were happy I wouldn't want anyone else, yet she didn't see the irony of fucking a married guy in front of his wife?.I certainly wouldn't describe myself as promiscuous, but I definitely have a higher sex drive than my other half. I am able to completely separate sex from love in the same way as a swinging couple would do, they enjoy being sexually intimate with someone else but don't stop loving their partners. There seems to be a sense of irony in reading condemnation coming from a woman who is happy to bounce up and down on a married guys throbbing cock simply because he's brought his wife along to watch.I suppose a site like RHP means you can safely meet like minded non judgmental people without engaging on a potential long term affair or picking up a bunny boiler from a bar, I understand that couples are deeply in love but may share different sex drives so I would also like to hear from married women who are looking for something extra and find out why they do.This post certainly wasn't meant to get the nod from anyone, and yes I appreciate I wouldn't like to find I was being cheated on which makes me a complete hypocrite, but I was interested in opinions from the fairer sex. I think it's a cruel twist of fate when one partner has a higher sex drive, it's not something that paying a therapist will ever change, or scented candles will balance out, it's weird I suppose. Having spoken to some guys who have a few beers then go home and pester their wives for sex I think I would rather have someone I see occasionally than feel I was harrassing my other half when she's clearly not feeling sexual. I think having sex with a woman who was only doing it to keep me quiet or occupied would be a lot worse than seeing someone else discreetly.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Is married women. How many times can a man get told no? How many times can he face rejection? How many times must a man be told he is dirty, disgusting just for wanting to make love with the woman he loves before he loses his confidence in himself? How much does it take before he thinks he is less of a man and how long does that damage last? How many years does it take before he faces impotence becasue of her put downs and rejections? He has been with this woman for 20 or more years. They have children together, he has worked his guts out all his life and it has never been enough. He stands to lose half of everything including his superannuation. He trully does love this woman and she thinks she is doing nothing wrong, she loves him but just does not enjoy the sexual act anymore. Walk away you say? Communicate you say? I agree with yiu BigBadDog...Walk a mile in thier shoes. I have no problem with married men. I can also see the irony in the couples and swingers way of thinking but each to thier own. Yes I have been in a relationship for more than 20 years and remained faithful...as did he!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    I separated from my partner and then husband after 23 years of, I know on my part, a monogamous relationship. It was hard enough coming to the realisation that I was losing my best friend over the last few years and the disintegration of our partnership. We tried everything and finally it was over and I moved out. THANK GOD there was not a third party involved.. I feel sick thinking about how much worse separating would have been. If your marriage isnt working you bust your guts to make it work.. he or she at least deserves that respect. Or you both move on.. its hard but you both deserve happiness.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    AS LONG as they are upfront from the start they are married.... the ones i hate (and therefore refuse to see again) say they are single but then you see the signs....tanline on the finger, kids lunchboxes left on the bed and his wife's g-strings left to dry and will only meet during the day (ie work hours). such a cliche but its true... guys dont lie about it! just pisses me off : )

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    The majority of guys I play with are married. With and without wife's knowledge. I find them more reliable..... I appreciate if they are honest about their circumstances. And yes you cannot judge all unless u know their personal circumstances.... Agree with BadBadDog "walk a mile in another's shoe. It's about fun and everyone knows the risks.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    The majority of guys I play with are married. With and without wife's knowledge. I find them more reliable..... I appreciate if they are honest about their circumstances. And yes you cannot judge all unless u know their personal circumstances.... Agree with BadBadDog "walk a mile in another's shoe. It's about fun and everyone knows the risks.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    I've been 'seeing' a married man for almost a year now. We have a purely sexual relationship. Essentially I'm his release when it gets too much. Morally speaking, i don't think i could ever bring myself to cheat on a partner, however in saying that I didn't think I would ever sleep with a married man either.I don't know if his wife knows about his extra-marital activities and to be honest I don't want to know. We are safe, there is no emotional attachment there, just a release when he needs it. I'm definately not saying it's the right thing to do, but it's how I justify it to myself.In answer to your question, yes I love the stuff I do with this guy. Nothing hotter than getting my morning message... and speaking in our stupid code ... and flirting ... and no i have no intention of stopping until such point as he feels he needs to be faithful to his wife.Hope this helps xx

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    we are raised to believe it is wrong to cheat. Whether it is on a test, on a friend or on a partner. I understand why some men and women look outside thier marriage for sexual release. I really really do. After all scientists have proven that when we have regular sex, we live longer, are healthier and happier. What I object to, is the lies. Those that lie to their spouse, sexual parners or whoever, in the end are only hurting themselves. Where do the lies stop. what is one more lie. When do the lies become too big or too sleazy or just too much and how are you going to judge that when you are the one doing the lying. All I can say is. Be honest...to yourselves at least. Admit that you are doing the wrong thing, or you wouldn't be lying about it. Then start talking to your partner. You may suprise yourself and find out that they are as unsatisfied as you. Or at least you will allow them to know how you feel. What is the point of a marriage if you don't communicate. I'm not saying that sex outside of marriage is wrong. I'm saying lying IS. I know many couples who are very happy in open or swinging relationships. I also know some who are miserable and faithful. You need to be honest. You owe it to yourself and your spouse.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    I've played with married men and the wife doesn't know anything about what he's doing. It's his choice, he sought me out and it's his problem if his wife finds out because he's the one with something to lose if he gets caught. Not all marriages are happy ones and some men choose to stay in a shit marriage for the sake of the kids. As far as I'm concerned that's naive. Kids aren't stupid, they know when something is wrong and in the end they will hate you for lying to them by pretending you're happily married. Best to end the marriage, help the kids deal with it and move on and be happy. Better to have two parents that are happier seperate than making everyone miserable by trying to stay together. I know because I stayed in a shit marriage for 20 years "for the kids". My oldest asked why I stayed as long as I did because the turmoil made them miserable. (got a bit off track, sorry)

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Speaking from my own experience, I am on here as a married man (as I assume others are) for one simple reason. I just dont get anything at home. I have tried for quite a few reasons to be the best husband that I can, tried for too long for the romance to kick back in, tried my hardest to be a great husband, fantastic lover, supportive of her needs emotionally, being an unselfish lover and make sure that her needs in bed are met, often times even if mine arent. But you get to the point where you figure why bother. Men have needs. I know that may sound like a caveman attitude, but when you can say you have honestly given it all you can (on a supportive/emotional level as well as sexually level), then you get to the point where you think, well, I might as well look elsewhere when everything you do to try to get 'the spark' back is in vain all of the time. I think it comes to the point where continual rejection starts to cause resentment. I will never leave my wife, but bloody hell, some form of connection, even if it is only physical, starts to be the only thing you think about. I know that there very probably men out there who are fucking everything in sight and then going home to their wives and getting some there as well, in which case, in my eyes, they are scumbags. Lets face it, everyone needs to feel that they are wanted. For those of us who can honestly say they have given it their absolute best shot to on ALL levels to be the best husband they can, then I think it is a fair thing. This is part of the reason I only want to give oral to women (apart from the fact that I have a fetish for it), is I figure I am not doing anything too wrong if I dont get anything out of it for myself. This is probably tied in with the fact that I have a very giving nature, but as I said before, I have needs too. I have the need to have a connection, I suppose I just want to be useful to someone. J

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Good on you XFunlovingx, Meeka100 & others for trying to walk a mile in someones shoes before judging. The truth is that life is complicated and sometimes truth is more hurtful and damging than hiding it. What do you do if your wife (or husband) has medical issues that make sex difficult. In my case we talk about it openly and still have a caring sex life together - but without the penetrative sex.Dumping someone on the pretext of "honesty" and leaving them partnerless for things beyond their control is just mean. I love my wife and sex is only one part of our relationship. Sadly its not "great sex" but that's no reason to hang it all on her or make her acqiese to my desire to get some better sex. Honesty is not a black and white thing, when you say does my "bum look fat in this dress?" do you really appreciate getting an honest reply? When the jews are in the attic do you say to the nazis " since you ask, I cannot tell a lie - they are just right upstairs". If I refuse to make a big thing out of our sex life, does that mean that I should be a long suffering martyr or just get honest and trade her in for the newer younger model? And if I instead seek some occassionally "good sex" outside, is not hurtful to say "darling I would really like to fuck someone else from time to time as you are just not that good at it..(oh and by the way your bum looks fat in that dress). Its naive to think that every difficult sex problem (the physical ones at least) get fixed up with a nice chat, a blind fold and some fluffy handcuffs. We have had lots of honesty, lots of compromise and lots of caring . Its more honest to say the sex is great (which it is) but sometimes secretly fantasise about it being better. Secrets and fantasies DO - make it better. You might call it dirty and firtive to have a secret affair. I just call it fun, laughter and a lust for life. Someone asked Woody Allen once if sex was dirty. His answer was - "If its good , it is!" So for me. I will go on being married, attached and in love with my wife. If I get great sex or not - its not that important to our relationship and if I get some "great sex" on the side, its the same thing. But why the hell why shouldn't I enjoy it. I am no saint and it is not the main game as far as our life together is concerned. Of course I do not want to hurt her & provided I can either pay for sex occassionally (not that much fun & slightly embarassing) or have a discreet sexual relationship with someone, then life is more or less perfect. Breaking up a marriage just to get better sex, seems absurd to me. Is it being discreet or cheating?It just depends on how judgemental you are.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Let's face it this is what it is, you cannot sugar coat it. From past experience I can honestly say the best remedy if your relationship is going south-of-the-border, and there is no way of turning it around, be up front and work out the exit plan in a fair way. No need in trying to get something on the side, it gets too complicated and there is bound to be too many lies to the point that you can't keep them straight. Take my advice if the relationship is over, then end it and move on. Its better for everyone involved. I'm not judging, just stating the facts.. best to be honest, you sleep better at night or day.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    i've only ever slept with one married man, and the only reason i did was because his wife knew and it was something she liked doing by controlling her husband and telling him what to do with me. she just really liked the idea of dominating both of us.if his wife didn't know, i wouldn't do it. secrecy is fun a thrilling and everything, but i don't think anyone likes holding onto the guilt that they're secretly a home wrecker.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Thanks for your replies. Doing it under wifey's command sounds very erotic, and a great fantasie. I think you are lucky to have lived it for real. - but unfortunately for me and many others, our wives are not that broad minded. But your remark about the guilt of secretly being a home wrecker is true. Obviously no-one intends to wreck other people's marriages but once you undertake a secret affair that is one of the risks. For the "attached married man" , there are only a 4 chocies (I think) (1) the home-wrecker-guilt of a secret affair. All at risk for some fulfillment and excitement in one's sex life. (2) guilt of busting up a perfectly good marriage by "honestlty" declaring the sex with your partner is below par and leaving..maybe OK if its a failed relationship, but not OK if the other person can't help it. (3) the guilt of doing nothing at all when you are sexually frustrated but pretending to have a life (4) Suck it all up and live a saintly and godly life like the Dalai Lahma - finding fulfillment and happiness in moral behaviour. Most of us aren't that saintly, and 2 and 3 are certain to cause pain and harm, so I guess for many we hope for the best of all possible worlds where no one gets hurt . We choose number 1. Its a balance between 1. everyone being happy - but risking it all if found out, compared to (2 and 3) everyone unhappy for certain , and 4 - perhaps an unattainable goal. The only easy answerI can see is having a "friend with benefits", someone of the opposite sex in exactly the same situation. The same things at stake and the same committment to being discreet.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    As I read your post, I thought that you knew my personal life story..

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Man, you must be travelling along lifes path in the same rowboat as me.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    when i came here to play a few years ago, it was as a reaction to my husband at the time cheating on me. i wanted good, clean, emotion-free revenge sex - so i saw almost exclusively married or attached men - no chance of entanglements. now i'm here a few years later as a much happier, more secure single female, i'm more interested in seeing a wider range of people - and i don't necessarily want to have to play the married-men game (no SMS's, no weekend or night meetings, etc) - so i'm less likely to see attached men. i'm loving being able to send a saucy SMS, for example! sorry if this is a little clinical, but this is a sex site. it's just that simple, to me. i don't take on people's reasons for being here, emotional dramas, backgrounds, etc - well, not generally. if i'm having purely a physical relationship with someone, i'm loathe to make snap judgements without the full weight of their entire history to explain their behaviour. *shrug*

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    mmmm 'deserts' im with u, just what i like: straight to the point! lil less conv, little more action please....... one can read the same book only so many times, hehethis is not eharmony ppl, get a life and get your fuck on

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    isn't there ! ;p Morticiaaa...xxx Quoting 'Fredrick35'mmmm 'deserts' im with u, just what i like: straight to the point! lil less conv, little more action please....... one can read the same book only so many times, hehethis is not eharmony ppl, get a life and get your fuck on

  • Letsgetcrazy09

    Letsgetcrazy09

    14 years ago

    Yes it is an awkward position that we put ourselves in when we start judging others on questions of morality. If a married person has extra marital affairs in any manner or form in a single or an ongoing manner, not necessarily being sexual penetration, according to some that would be morally corrupt. This is the case whether that person has the blessing of their partner or not. Certainly those that have been married in a church and taken traditional vows would be looked upon as being morally corrupt if doing this.Society has been programmed to accept certain things. We have laws for this and that to keep everything in order. Certainly we need laws so that anarchy does not reign. Morals are a set of values or "laws" that are unwritten to try and keep a certain amount of order. A lot of these can be traced back to religious beliefs and have developed from there.It matters not what you think on the matter, except to yourself. As with most things in life we can all get along if we don't try to impose our beliefs on to others. Be polite in the way that you express your rejection of someone because of your beliefs. Yes if they cut up rough about the rejection, be more terse - or just ignore them.I have a set of shoes I would not trade to anyone, they are mine, they are my life. I don't wish to have others walk in them. They are my happiness, my joy, my pain, my sadness, my losses, my memories & all other feelings in between. Yes if someone cares to listen to my travels I will share some of that with them. If they wish to share some of their journey I am only too glad to listen.Don't judge those for what they have done or are doing, you may not wish to walk in their shoes, but then again they may have no desire to walk in yours either.JMOLets

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    I reckon you should always 'walk a mile in their shoes' because 1. You'd be a mile away, AND 2. you'd have a new pair of shoes.... _popupControl();

  • platinumblonde69

    platinumblonde69

    14 years ago

    I agree wholeheartenedly with Funloving...and AussieScott...and Letsgetcrazy.....Im not saying its right...or wrong..but everyone has their reasons...whether they are right or wrong....as well...And as AussieScott said, if the person you are going to meet knows the truth...then they have a choice as well....I once saw a guy for 3 years....and...we often talked about my husband.....and...he is the reason Im still married........And he was a single guy so he could have quite easliy tried to talk me into leaving........So as Funloving said...sometimes its about the friendship factor...not how many orgasms you have.... Plat

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    I make no judgements as to why anyone, male/female are on this site. All I ask is that you are upfront with me about your relationship status so I know what the situation is and can make a decision based on the facts. What I do object to is being lied to and deceived all for the sake of an attached guy getting his rocks off. Try and remember it is not all about you, your relationship status impacts me as well. I am single and only interested in single men. I want the choice to spend all night with someone, not have them race off early back to their wife/partner. There are many women here who prefer to play with married men, go play with them, dont screw up the heads of those who clearly state they are only interested in single guys. Just be open and honest.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Being in a marriage of 25 years, the wife having an affair in the seventh, then being in an emotional relationship, that I could never establish whether it developed into a sexual relationship(second time smarter?) and staying with my wife as I believed marriage is forever. I joined this site to see if I could get “lucky”, for many of the reasons afore mentioned regarding sexual frustration to the point that I do not flirt or “hit on” my own wife. I soon realised that I was not going to get “lucky” as my profile is too vague, and that I would literally go insane with guilt even if I did have a liaison, already having gone insane due to my brain not coping with the past. I now stay on this site for the male libido information and general discussions, this is my story, and this is my conundrum. Have fun everyone.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    i will keep this 1 short monogamy is a religious thing so unless you attend church every sunday and pray a couple times a day....How far should we go with it? not that any1 wants to be cheated on but really if it is soley about sex whats it matter?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    1 - yes cos married men are better: 2 - it doesn't matter either way cos who are we to judge: 3 - probably not cos they are more trouble than single guys: 4 - definitely not cos its cheating If we agree those are the possibilities we can then add up the numbers...

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Hi! My General rule is Don't get involved with an Attatched Guy. However there are exceptions to this rule..!1. If the Wife is aware and gives her Personal Consent. I have so much respect for a Wife who unselfishly allows another Woman to fulfill his needs. .2. If the Guy Loves his Wife but Sexual needs aren't being met .ie Differing Labido requirements. Usually in Older Guys it's actually an emotional rather than a Sexual need.If the Marriage is in a rut due to work commitments .Sex has lost it's lustre. I share Myself for acouple of Reasons ..They're not going off half cocked, getting themselves into an explosive Relationship Position with others..I accept them on these Terms ...1It defuses the Sexual Focus of the Male, returns his Hormones to a Level where he can focus on more than those needs ...They have to take steps to woo their Wives treat her Like their date, Mistress, be attentive without being pushy, complimenting them appreciating them. This works both ways as the Relaionship shifts. Balance is returned . You might say I'm a Relationship/ Sex Therapist ...Everone I have accepted are now leading better more fulfilling lives with their Wives..I get so much pleasure in helping in this way...I realize their are some very selfish Guys who just want to get their Rocks Off. No matter who gets hurt.Their Wives don't undertand them so on ...I know that type ..I avoid them, I'm never going to be a Party in that kind of selishness....Lol LU :)

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    My status is clear, yet I get plenty of offers - so theres plenty of girls that just dont care.I guess as long as they know, and you are honest about your dishonesty, its all fair play.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    I have been seeing a married guy I met online for almost 4 years now. It's a purely physical relationship. There is no emotional attachment at all. He give me what I want and I give him what he wants.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    I am not going to judge anyone on what they do, but a question for the married/attached guys.. How would you feel if you found out your partner was seeing people without you knowing?

  • jensta

    jensta

    14 years ago

    Why would u play with anyone Married??? Lots of genuine singles! I like what I want when I want! Without any restrictions! xxx

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    I don't care if the man is married or otherwise.As long as he treats me respectfully, does not lie, is romantic and can satisfy me sexually I don't care what he does when he is not with me.Most long term married friends I have have a very boring sex life. Life is too short. We should enjoy every minute.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Quoting 'Maxking2010' I am not going to judge anyone on what they do, but a question for the married/attached guys.. How would you feel if you found out your partner was seeing people without you knowing? I'd probably be quite cranky.Which is why I generally keep my nose clean. Not to say I always have in my past, but these days I try that bit harder.On the other hand, if there was some 'epic - will never come this way again' type situation, I may or may not jump in boots and all.I try to just keep it to outrageous flirting though.

  • jensta

    jensta

    14 years ago

    Quoting 'HotSweetLuv' I don't care if the man is married or otherwise.As long as he treats me respectfully, does not lie, is romantic and can satisfy me sexually I don't care what he does when he is not with me.Most long term married friends I have have a very boring sex life. Life is too short. We should enjoy every minute. Straight away If married there a liar! Unless here as a couple in a open relationship! So if u were seeing a married guy! If his wife calls If he answer her call, would he say be home later honey im just playing with miss............. More than likely NOT! Dont Be Fooled By Players! xxx

  • jensta

    jensta

    14 years ago

    I like my men to want me! Fuck being second best! Do u not think married guy has sex with his wife! then comes have sex with u? Honestly Have more selfworth! for yourself! Try out single guys!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    I do consider the last three comments made in this thread to be just a touch judgemental and over the top. Sweetie you yourself are married. Does that mean when you go out to play, your men friends are not getting sloppy seconds and crumbs JUST BECAUSE you have permission to do so? Self respect has absolutley nothing to do with my decision to play with a married man at all. As to your comment about crumbs like a dog, Lovey I may be a bitch but I do not have eight tits! Please do not allow your own personal pain to overshadow a voice of reason.

  • xFunlovingx

    xFunlovingx

    14 years ago

    Just because someone has a sexual fling or an affair with someone that is married does not mean they don't have self-esteem or self-respect at all. I have lots of self-esteem and self-respect and I don't pick up others "crumbs"...It is my choice and my choice only if I want to go there! Wow Sweetiepie..never thought you would put other women down like that! It is their life what they do, no judgement should come into it! I know you have had bad experiences with your Aunt, and I am so sorry for that, but they don't all end up like that! This is 2 consenting adults...and if he/she accepts that the other is married...then as long as they don't do it to you...their life is theirs. You and your husband are lucky that you have that trust, have that communication..but alot out there don't have the love you have for each other. And I am betting that alot of married men and women do wish they had what you have. I love you honey and I understand. But please don't put people down for their choices in life! xFunlovingx

  • jensta

    jensta

    14 years ago

    Not being Judgemental! Do what u want! I just dont understand why any woman wants to be 2nd best! Knowing that he has a wife at home! There is no room for growth within that relationship! I for me need to be number 1 not the sex misteress! but hey maybe u happy with that! It takes all sorts to make up this world! It would be boring if we were all the same! xxx

  • jensta

    jensta

    14 years ago

    Its about Morels!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Jensta & Sweetie, You are both assuming that the "other" women is seeking a relationship or something more meaningful from the married man and therefore is only accepting crumbs or being second best. Maybe some women like to have someone who is married or attached because for the very reason that they don't have to worry about the whole relationship side of things, does he love me, does he want me, where is this going, blah blah. Both the women and married man know where they both stand from the outset. Maybe??? Although I think (or maybe just me?) that if things go on for a long time it is easy for someone to cross the line and become attached. xxx Meeka

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Also - and I know that I am oversimplifying here - but do you really want a partner / husband / wife who has or will cheat on you? You can forgive once but twice, etc... Why is everyone blaming the women - what about the husbands????? xxx Meeka

  • jensta

    jensta

    14 years ago

    Whether Looking for love or not! doesnt come into it for me! does one not think! this guy! has a wife & children! Knowing he is in a marriage or in a relationship should stop one going there! Reverse the roles U in a Marriage with kids he is seeing another woman! Cant tell me u would be happy about that! For fuck sake there is heaps of single guys why allow married ones to be greedy!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Is that SOMEONE had told you it is okay. I dont need permission from any man to do exactly as I please. Why would you think you are an invited guest at a feast while someone else is only getting crumbs for doing essentially exactly the same thing? Wake up and smell the coffee ladies. Do you really think a single man has sex with you and only you? He is going home and having sex with someone else as well. What right do either of you have to judge others on thier moral standing? Sweetiepie...did you ever consider that the single guys are single because that is how they like to be and are busy enough getting sex from a married woman such as yourself who wants no more than sex. Why should he try with a single woman who may want more than he is prepared to give? Maybe the couples who play with single guys are being a bit greedy here. Jensta what makes you so sure that you are number one with the single guys? They are having fun with others as well. YOU may be last down the list and not even a close second. With a married man .....I know I am second. I know where I stand. I know what the guy wants and I know he is not about to try and rule my life or tell me what to do. Yes I am rather attached to my married guy...but then..I am attached to all my friends as they are indeed friends and not just a fuck. There is no right and no wrong. To me, swinging seems somewhat wrong but I would never critisize you so vehemently for that. I am fairly certain that if we were to speak openly we would find that there are things that the both of you do that would be against MY moral standing.

  • jensta

    jensta

    14 years ago

    I personally say no to most guys! For me to met they must met most of my requirements! I am worthy of what I want! while settle for anything less! xxx

  • jensta

    jensta

    14 years ago

    If u loved your wife! u wouldnt need to go else where! and if its only about sex u would share & explore with your Wife! Grow some Balls and Enjoy the Woman u have or move on! Or keep doing what u doing! but the truth always comes out sooner or later she will know her husbands a player! Its called Karma! No Im not a Bitch I just speak the Truth! xxx

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Karma its up there with Santa and the tooth fairy what a load of CRAP.. Each to thier own and seriously who really gives a fuck what others are doing.

  • jensta

    jensta

    14 years ago

    I might be on Red Hot Pie But I will tell u that I dont play with many! most of my life I have been in relationships! where I have been Number one! Like it or not thats what I strive for! So dont be thinking that Im some slut! & that im number 9 on the list! I can assure u not! Better still check out my profile! Im looking for a Boyfriend with a high sex drive! I would rather be single and happy! than to be second best! xxx

  • jensta

    jensta

    14 years ago

    See! But hey U cant allow your relationship to grow! There is no big future! I so see that as a waste of time and energy! But if thats what u want to do go for it! Do u ever notice with your girlfriends! that they wont trust u with there partners! That usually what happens in these type of circumstances! YOU CUTTING SOMEONE ELSES GRASS! DO U FEEL GUILTY AT ALL ??? If It was me and my man was caught out! I would go him & her! Trust me! All too complicated! Its like waiting for a bomb to go off! its just a matter of time!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    i come to a place like rhp to avoid hateful judgementalism and words such as 'slut' or 'bitch' used in derogatory fashion. there's enough of that for sexually positive and libidinous women to put up with, out there in the 'real world'. i, for one, would appreciate it if women here spent more time reacting positively to other women, regardless of their own personal beliefs, with a little more respect and tact. whether you are for or against the topic in debate, this discussion is surfing dangerously close to out-and-out disrespect. back on topic, my own opinion: it takes two to tango. pitting women against other women as 'homewreckers' and jezebels completely removes the onus from the shoulders of the married men who have knowingly placed themselves on rhp seeking casual or ongoing affairs. i feel like we've just regressed back through thirty years of feminism, right back to when women were at fault for 'tempting' men; and also, assuming that women are unable to have casual sex with a man without 'secretly' seeking a relationship of some kind, or to 'steal' a man from another woman. i come to rhp as an equal with the men here - to have some fun and slake my libido without mainstream judgement. their personal reasons, background and morals are their own cross to bear, and moreover, their own responsibility.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    I have stayed away from this topic for fear of being flayed. I am married and I make that perfectly clear in my profile. I went to great length to point that fact out. Now I suspect and I could be wrong but some people (Women included) might actually lie about. People have a fling…opportunity sex for no reason at all. It was just the right place at the right time. It can happen to anyone. Even those who are the most vocally opposed to attached people straying. You will notice I use the word people as both attached men and women are guilty. So firstly what makes you think that you cannot love two people at the same time? I would think all of us have loved more than one partner at the same time? So who did you love most? Is it unfair to ask that question? I will grant you that if you were in a relationship you might not fall in love with the other person but you could. So now you have to choose who you love more. Monogamy sucks. Our basically Judo/Christian beliefs and morals have us deny many things in our lives. Now why do people have affairs, I think that is the deeper question. The answer is surprisingly simple something is missing from the relationship. So we seek it outside of the marital boundaries. There could be lots of thing that make people do this. It does not diminish their love for their partners. An affair simply fills a void both people are aware of the restriction that have to apply. Both enter into it freely and it must be satisfy to both or it would not continue. There is no question of taking crumbs from the table or sloppy seconds. The people involved get exactly what they want and are happy with it as well. Defining what is missing is difficult; it could be as simple as their partner no longer makes them feel attractive. It could be differing sex drives. It could be a kinky thing. It could be intellectual company. I have my reason which I have no intention of posting in here as it will just seem self serving. Funny thing is that I have made lots of friends on here many are interstate and none judge me at all. Even those who are would not have sex with me (since I am married) are still friends and see me a fun flirty person.

  • Letsgetcrazy09

    Letsgetcrazy09

    14 years ago

    One could argue that if this was a point about morals that if you were married in a Christian Church that by Swinging you are breaking a christian moral - "forsaking all others". Please don't become moralistic when the high ground has been surrendered.JMOLets

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Maybe I dont want a relationship to grow. I have been in committed relationships (faithful ones) most of my adult life as well and quite frankly, I am happy alone right now. Yes my girlfriends do trust me with thier men. Do I feel guilty at all? Hell no! I uderstand the circumstances of the guys I see and you do not. Nobody said you were a slut and I would never call a woman that anyway apart from in jest. It is way to judgemental a name for me to use and as for cutting someone elses grass, maybe thier grass cutter is broken. I am doing them a favour after all, they cant be bothered to do the gardening themselves.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Everyone is different and all situations are different - so why don't we all agree to disagree before someone get's hurt. xxx Meeka

  • jensta

    jensta

    14 years ago

    xxx

  • jensta

    jensta

    14 years ago

    In every forum you are rude and negative! If you dont give a fuck! like you say! why do you keep reading the forums! Karma! will come bite you on the arse!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    ooooh Karma maybe it will be delivered by the Easter Bunny .. Talk about negative ... listen to the way you have carried on ramming your opinion down peoples necks like some evangelistic forum police.. let it go people do as they wish to do and couldn’t care less what you or others really think... Maybe I just say it more often. It’s easy to throw shit typing your little war of words ... we fucken get it you’re of a different opinion to many others so stop spoiling for the fight you look stupid

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    I am more than happy to agree to disagree. We are all entitled to our own opinions and Sweetie and I both know that when it comes to this topic we are never going to agree anyway.

  • jensta

    jensta

    14 years ago

    I do passionately say my thoughts and opinions on the subject at hand! Unlike you! I do give a fuck! I can be friends with a difference of opinion! My friends in my life are different to me! but I love them for who they are! not what they do! they no where they stand and my thoughts and views! Just remember what Forums! are and what banter goes on! U know what! In real life! Im More Full On! lol

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Jensta. In real life I too am more full on and will passionately defend my friends and loved ones to the end. I dont back down. There is but one rule for all the kids that enter my house and it works well....... I am right and even when I am wrong...I am still right! Works for me!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    So many judgmental people. I beg to differ with many of you. Hi WOW, how are you?? I don't see WOW as being rude, just giving his opinion like everyone else. What a lot of you seem to forget is that not everyone is here for a relationship. Some of us are actually here for sex only, and i like to hook up with as many as i like and if that makes me a slut or a bad person, then so be it, but i reckon I'm making a lot of people real happy including myself. At least I'm a fun confident person who is not bitter and angry towards everyone else, no matter what their opinions or life choices are!!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    I agree with so many posts here that say we shouldn't judge others as we don't understand the situations of others. I have felt the temptation of looking elsewhere, not just for sex but just for intimacy and the cuddles I was missing in my marriage. I was being told regularly by my ex-wife that she was not sure she was attracted to me anymore, that my touch made her uncomfortable. It was soul destroying when the person I loved didn't want to share herself with me. It was only after we took a short break and agreed to see other people that I experienced what was missing by seeing someone else. I will never judge anyone for wanting affection in a difficult and loveless marriage. After we split, I met a woman in a club one night and we went back to mine. It turned out she was married and slept in a different room from her husband. They had never explored their sexuality to the point where she was not allowed to go down on him and vice-versa! It was a passionate and frantic couple of weeks which ended when the guilt became too much. How can someone be neglected in such a way that they have to repress all their desires and physical needs? It is a strange world... Fun x

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Im married to a beautiful woman but we have an open relationship so we play alone aswell,i have her consent ,she has mine but i dont get looked at coz im married.i see why ladies have a drama with it but i reckon if they can talk to the wife to make sure then all good

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    It seems everone has a different opionion. This is what makes living in a democratic environment so wonderful. I am a single woman on this site who met a man on here 2 years ago. For months he lied to me and told me he was single, when he was actually living with his partner. If married men choose to set up profiles on this site for whatever reason and not tell their partners, that is one thing. If they meet women here and lie to them too then that is another thing entirely. They are now making an innocent person guilty of something they may not want to be guilty of. My personal choice is to not cheat on another woman. My request to attached men on here is to be honest to the woman on here and allow them to make their own choices

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Quoting 'irresponsibility' If married men choose to set up profiles on this site for whatever reason and not tell their partners, that is one thing. If they meet women here and lie to them too then that is another thing entirely.Indeed, there must be some 'sense of honour' even if it is slightly misplaced.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    This is a very complicated and loaded topic and one I have learnt to not judge unless you are or have been in the same situation. ....When younger and lacking experience I was against people playing on the side......but now I find myself in a situation that lacks passion etc (and I have talked to him about it until I'm blue in the face) but we do have a great friendship with a lot in common ( I dont want to leave him) ..I have had a lover or 2 and yes some would say I want my cake and eat it to...well if there are others out there that want the same thing (which is why I only get involved with married men ) then ...well I say LOUD and clear ....don't judge unless you are in my shoes.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    xFunlovingx, BadBadDog and fionabee make a lot of sense, make a lot of valid points and reveal considerable insight. When I married, my new wife declared that men can't be faithful and she expected that I would stray. This initially came as a surprise and I had doubts that this would every be the case. But as they say… people get the itch after many years… and being cut off sexually is too often a reality. Now not everyone is totally open as to their activities… as I'm usually the last to discover when the wife is going out. Usually as she walks out the door. Even seen strange men pick her up from the driveway. Now this could be totally innocent, attending work functions. But then it may not. If one disregards sex and affection, everything else in the marriage was working, so far as keeping a household and raising well balanced, now adult children. The unfairness comes into it when others make judgements. I've had a few flings, but these days more enjoy friendships with other women. There's definitely different horses for different courses, so judgemental swingers who are getting their fill are not appreciated when they expect others to be denied as then continue receiving satisfaction from multiple partners.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    wouldn't do it, couldn't do it. we don't meet/chat/play with anyone who is attached. not now not ever. to our mind, they don't merit the effort.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    This seems to be a rather hot topic, perhaps I shouldn't have asked the questions I did!. I know it's a tough one, and this wasn't supposed to be a way of avoiding paying a shrink for a half hour in a reclining chair, so feel free to avoid your chance to become a councilor!. I was initially interested in making observations and finding out who was doing what and way, not asking to be locked in stocks and have rotten veg flung my way, so for those of you who wish to condemn please remember the guys or girls who have turned up and said "yes that's me" could easily have ticked single, so don't chastise them so much that they alter their profile, it's not about your chance to burn the heretics, but I agree it doesn't mean you need to condone what they do either.I was a little taken aback by some of the condemnation, it may be well deserved I agree, yet I never expected the direction it would come from!. I figured that swingers would be the most lenient or least judgmental, what with their higher sex drives, ability to distinguish love from sex and the fact that their situation is frowned upon by main stream society, but hey, I am clearly wrong!.For those guys out there who are involved with someone they love but have higher sex drives than their partners, I understand!, but I am quite clearly in a minority. Having seen some of the replies on this thread and another I am in no doubt why most guys quietly click "single" LOL!.Good luck everyone, thanks for your replies no matter how they varied.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Quoting 'mikeandshel'wouldn't do it, couldn't do it. we don't meet/chat/play with anyone who is attached. not now not ever. to our mind, they don't merit the effort. But you are attached. Oh thats right.....it is okay because you have permission!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    ah but we don't play alone. do you get that? didn't you see the 'we' ? we don't 'cheat' either.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    what is the problem gilrs us guys sleepwith a married mam every night ourselves and we have to deal with that emotionally every day a warm gentle shoulder to rest on would make our blight alot easier please be sympathecic with us mere males of the species

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Quoting 'secretfuntime' I was a little taken aback by some of the condemnation, it may be well deserved I agree, yet I never expected the direction it would come from!. I figured that swingers would be the most lenient or least judgmental, what with their higher sex drives, ability to distinguish love from sex and the fact that their situation is frowned upon by main stream society, but hey, I am clearly wrong!.For those guys out there who are involved with someone they love but have higher sex drives than their partners, I understand!, but I am quite clearly in a minority. Having seen some of the replies on this thread and another I am in no doubt why most guys quietly click "single" LOL!. WTF?? To be fair the "swingers" who are condemning you are answering your question based on the assumption that you are lying to your partner and are seeing pple behind their back. COMPLETELY different to swinging. You are talking about lying to someone you love on such a huge issue. How can you even compare that to swinging. Seriously dude - wtf??? I don't try to judge others as I stated in an earlier post. But I have a right to say I do not want to become involved, fuck or see a married or attached guy. That is my right - and I would be HUGLEY fucked off if someone lied to me about that !!!! NOT FAIR TO SINGLES!! So you have problems in your marriage - well I feel for you because it is hard on you, your partner and your family but at the end of the day that is your problem. Don't make it mine. Marking yourself as single when you are married and lying to your partner and potential playmates is UNCOOL!!!!!!!!

  • jensta

    jensta

    14 years ago

    EXACTLY ............ I have Nothing Else to Say! ............ xxx

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    we made the decision very early in the piece to not include married or attached guys in our play. the reasons are that they are unreliable, unable to host and never free when we are looking. our work an family commitments are such that we have very few windows of opportunity for play. to waste these opportunities on someone who is very likely only going to let us down seems pointless. over the past couple of years we have been harassed, insulted, abused and generally pilloried for daring to say "no", for the most part by married guys who fed us lies for a week before revealing their marital status. we want what we want and really don't care what anyone else thinks of this. what we don't want is married or otherwise attached men or women, regardless of their circumstances and whether they are in an 'open relationship'. we have been invited (by married men) to meet in cheap motels, car parks, in sheds and on beaches. not going to happen is it?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Change the subject for fucks sake, no one is here too have anothers opinion rammed down their throat. We are all on RHP for our own reasons, and should NOT have too justify them too anyone else, whether we be married, single or "taking a break!"

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    I get that love, but some of the opinions are just a tad overboard. we dont need them rammed down our throats, like i said, everyone has their own reason for being on RHP and should not be judged for it! JMO

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    I hadn't marked myself as single, I merely pointed out that I understood why some people would, especially considering the venomous response it can draw from some people to mention you're married.I drew the comparison with swinging because both cheating and swinging are frowned upon by the main stream, that's the similarity, yes you don't consider you're cheating if you're side by side or have permission, but if you got married in a church some people would say you have made a mockery of the vows you took to remain monogamous. I don't necessarily agree that playing goes against your vows to each other, but as I said I was drawing on the opinion of main stream society.I am not judging swinging, whatever floats your boat and keeps people happy is fine with me, I wasn't looking to be condoned either, I asked some questions, the people who have answered have made their points then reiterated them, then made them again and reiterated, I get the picture.I have noticed the strength of some peoples views has actually kept others from posting their opinions "in public" so to speak, for fear of backlash, I have had some private messages which I will respectfully keep private that reiterate this sentiment. Thanks again everyone, I'm happy to leave this subject where it is.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Before I do go, for those of you who went on a bit of a tangent...................my initial question went"So from a womans point of view, would you do it and how many of you have been with a married guy? on top of that, was it enjoyable and would you do it again?."

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Quoting 'secretfuntime'"So from a womans point of view, would you do it and how many of you have been with a married guy? on top of that, was it enjoyable and would you do it again?."Twice: Once I was deceived as to the man's relationship status. I enjoyed myself until I found out about his partner. I would never knowingly enter into something physical with a married man whose partner was unaware, or, if she was aware, would not approve. The other time was with a man's partner's blessing. I know this becuase she told me this. That I would happily do again if the mood took me.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Quoting 'secretfuntime'Before I do go, for those of you who went on a bit of a tangent...................my initial question went"So from a womans point of view, would you do it and how many of you have been with a married guy? on top of that, was it enjoyable and would you do it again?."Yes, have done it, yes it was enjoyable..both spending time in and out of the bedroom, yes, would do it again if there was chemistry there..judge me as you will...but you only live once and I like to live mine like I don't need another one..

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    well said

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    it was a disappointment, a let down , a no show. we had everything arranged, no children, the house to ourselves, cleaned and sparkling, candles lit, wine poured, hair done, makeup applied, music and mood set............weeks of planning, chatting, exchanging texts, emails and photos, all building to an evening of excitement and pleasure............and at 758pm, two minutes before our guest was to arrive, we got a perfunctory text saying he had to cancel. because his wife wanted him home by 9. we wont repeat this scenario for anyone. wont put ourselves through the stress..............

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    Quoting 'fionabee' Is married women. How many times can a man get told no? How many times can he face rejection? How many times must a man be told he is dirty, disgusting just for wanting to make love with the woman he loves before he loses his confidence in himself? How much does it take before he thinks he is less of a man and how long does that damage last? How many years does it take before he faces impotence becasue of her put downs and rejections? He has been with this woman for 20 or more years. They have children together, he has worked his guts out all his life and it has never been enough. He stands to lose half of everything including his superannuation. He trully does love this woman and she thinks she is doing nothing wrong, she loves him but just does not enjoy the sexual act anymore. Walk away you say? Communicate you say? I agree with yiu BigBadDog...Walk a mile in thier shoes. I have no problem with married men. I can also see the irony in the couples and swingers way of thinking but each to thier own. Yes I have been in a relationship for more than 20 years and remained faithful...as did he! EXACTLY!!!! I am married 20 + years and the thing that is missing is a sex life. After three years of talking and trying to sort out "the problem" SHE is not interested at all! Why should we throw every thing in the bin just because of that! I thought that is what this site was for,fnding people with similar needs. I don't want to become celibate at 50 and after some discussions my wife said "why don't you find a girl friend" probably not really thinking I would. It really is a case of "'don't ask don't tell" but if she did ask I would tell her as I can't tell a lie...........you can see straight through me! As for having sex with another person while your partner is watching I find that a lot more weird than having sex with a married person one on one! I know there are ladies out there who are looking for the same as I am because in my work I do house calls and some women have come on to me and I have rejected their advances......................now I am looking for those ladies!!!!

  • deanna_rose

    deanna_rose

    14 years ago

    but i will have sex with him :P

  • RHP

    RHP User

    14 years ago

    any ladys wanto fuck now im in cranbourne and im ready to go just call not fussy

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