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why do people lie?!!

September 23 2013

I met a really nice man on this site about a year ago. Due to distance (he lives 4 hrs away) we became friends chatting by email and Skype. The one thing I am adamant about is that anyone I chat/flirt/etc is not in a relationship. My husband left me for another woman and I will never do that to another woman. We were incredibly compatible and when we finally met (after a year) the sexual tension was out of this world. I usually have some barriers up due to a not so nice past but within 5 minutes they were gone. Our meet was a picnic. After another couple of weeks of seriously flirting, emailing etc and then my driving up to stay in a beach town next to his I then find out that not only is he married but that he has 2 teenage children. He knew my past, he knew how much it hurt my teenage daughter so why the bloody hell would he do it to his own? I just don't get it. In the end the only reason he told me was because he felt guilty for leading me on and 'I was too nice a person to do that to' what a crock and what a bullshit excuse. He could have found others that don't have my hangups! I just don't get it! Can anyone please explain? - Posted from rhpmobile

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  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    He took a year to feel guilty!! Seriously? By the way, you are probably not the only woman he has been talking to either. :(

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    ...they can and get away with it with minimal fear of any retribution.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    I know! He said I was the only one but honestly who was he kidding? - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    did you have sex with this man or did he tell you in the nick of time?All the messaging ,skyping was I suppose, a relief to the boredom in his marriage.In his mind if he didn't have ''sex'' with you then he was using the Clinton Defence.Just poor behaviour really...I asked a man once why he had single on his profile when he clearly wasn't,his response...''Women won't have sex with me if they know I am married.''Deeply shallow,selfish behaviour but it happens,women do it too.

  • Beachlover1999

    Beachlover1999

    11 years ago

    It is just sooo difficult to filter sometimes, online or offline. I don't have any advise or ideas.....just a big hug and sigh..... :)

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Because according to another thread he probably had a good reason like his wife was abused as a child.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Lills lills lills, honey you have been lied too all your life , trick for you now pick the lier guess what you are back in the game !!!! The last few months i have been really pushing myself to speak the absolute truth normally i just would not tell the hole truth !! Two types of people liers and the rest at many different levels you got the ten yr old lier easy , Teenage lie yeah!! 20s your skills are really getting good ,30 40 you got yourself professionall liers that is there habitual trait of a lier , most liers just lie because they dont know any better greedy selfish meen dangerous list goes on ? The others are afraid of the truth or in denial. Try speaking the absolute truth for 1 week peoples reactions are amazing its fucken great fun i am have'n a ball:-))- Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Quoting 'Beneath_blueeyes' Because according to another thread he probably had a good reason like his wife was abused as a child. What do you mean according to ? It's just a bunch of differing ideas put forward by differing people for all to consider and perhaps be swayed by their own hand when good points are made. How is it 50 shades of grey was so popular when so many seem only capable of seeing black and white ?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    They get addicted to the thrill of the chase. Sometimes thier self esteem is so low that the flirt is a boost to thier flagging ego. Sometimes they have been damaged themselves and it makes them feel better about themselves. Sometimes they are just lying, cheating arseholes. There is never just one simple reason and the problem is theirs and not yours. Unfortunately it happens a lot. Both men and women cheat. They never consider the havoc they leave or the pain they cause. They eventually get caught out and most lose the ones they sought to protect by lying anyway - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    I believe none of them.   If you're married, that's fine, but tell me so I can make my own call. As BBE said above, tell me about your marital issues so I can make my own call.   I'm chatting with someone at the moment who has his own quandary (unrelated) and I can discuss it openly due to his honesty.   Unfortunately truth isn't as important for some. And you'll never really know..... ever.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    To have some good and some bad sex with LIARS.The name of the game is hunt the pussy, the new pussy the pussy they do not have at home.Its very simple here ladies and it astounds me that you would think you will find an honest man here. Its a sex site, its an means to an end site. No matter how much you want to put invisible clothes on this Emperor RHP he is still naked. You cannot dress it up with , the boyfriend syndrome, yes they may give you the boy friend EXPERIENCE because thats what your looking for. Ever Tom Dick and Harry knows thisso open wide your pockets so they can piss right into them.Yes I am cruel but I have heard this over and over again from women, why did he lie to me, what is it he gets out of this.He gets your POWER so stop handing it over. This is a cock market, for women that may well get looked over in the pub, and there you have MR six pack hottie in your bed and doing the wild thing. Good for you but wake up to what it really is.take of your rose coloured glasses girls. Men and women do some bloody shit things to each other and it can spill over into places they don't want it to go.We have seen that on the forums with one person in particular that bull shitted her way into peoples lives then went through them like a bull in a china shop.Even when confronted with the truth of what she does, and continues to do, it does not matter as she has no CONSCIOUS its all about her needs, to be noticed. Just like this guy, his needs, he wanted sex and to be wanted, to be desired to have some other woman pay attention to him , as he maybe felt left out at home. Either way, with married men its never enough, they are not made to have one pussy no matter how hard they try.women think they want them all of them as a person, they don't, if you did not have a hole and it was not out there on RHP then guys would not bother.We are the dirty little secret, and your pain means nothing to the players. They cannot get a fuck without telling the lie, ask any married guy, honesty will not get you laid. there is your answer.And you married guy or guys that bullshit they are not seeing anyone else..get this women have two or three profiles to trap you, they also get their girlfriends on rhp to try and see if you take the baitand you doand you then lie and say honey no I am just on for the forums and no i am not talking to other women, honest they they go put up a date on date finderso there you are thinking he wants only me an you put your guard down and maybe get rid of the condoms, and there he is sticking his dick into the next MIss RHP.Ladies, grow some balls Lady T , brutal in her honesty and this is not man bashing I like men but I also know how a man thinks, I used to be a dick in a previous life, that is why I still behave like one today,

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    The facts as I read them, are:He didn't have sex with the op. He confessed to feeling guilty. He didn't want to hurt a nice person.He didn't hurt his teenage daughters.The rest,Why would he do that to his daughters.......... he didn't !What a bullshit excuse..... no, he didn't go through with it for good reasons !There are probably others.........oh of course he's male after all !Could of this, probably that !It's all fucking supposition and make believe !I don't condone him playing around and wasting your time, but in the end he did have a conscience and he didn't get busted, he bailed on his own volition before anyone got put through the wringer !

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    During the year of email and skype, was he the only one you talked to ?No other dates ?No sex ?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    I ever came across about lying was...."Everyone lies Michael. The innocent lie because they don't want to be blamed for something they didn't do and the guilty lie because they don't have any other choice."Your guy would seem to fall into the second category. Why does he lie? Because he sees it as the only way to get what HE wants and he is selfish enough not to care about much else.Lady T....if you are talking about all men I would be disappointed although I would agree many think that way.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Hence me saying you'll never really know... ever.   I have been extremely lucky with the people I've met online, here and elsewhere. I have become a part of the bigger parts of their lives and I'm glad my gut has served me well.   And I have met some amazingly honest, sincere and awesome men/women. I've been included in their social circles and personal lives and I trust quite a few who make me feel safe.   I've also accepted your very apt bollocking in a recent thread in SWB and took it on board with gratitude as to my too trusting nature. I am too trusting and I have adapted my behaviour due to yours and Meeka's ire. I've only been doing this since December, it's a learning curve.   I can't count the number of guys I've called "bullshit" on and they've fessed up. Sulkily.   I also wonder how many slipped under my radar.   But, call me a fool, I still want to think the best of people mostly. I know all people wont have my level of ethics, but can't I hope 'some' do?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    I think I will turn Gay for you……! Well, curious anyway.You are a breath of RHP fresh air, and a spoonful of BS reality medicine. LOve your sass and style. All the men need LT Tuition 101, as it would save many women so much wasted time, effort and heartache. Women could take your LT Tuition 181, on sexy savvy.Lills, you got burnt by a guy whose dick is in his hand more than his heart is in the place it could be, but nobody is perfect and everyone is learning, so forgive/forget and move on. Men are born to try,A Women to deny.An old Scottish saying relayed to me by a very old and wise Woman I use to know.I wonder how many Men fully realise the depth of a Woman's love, whether there is lust involved or not, and how much it hurts like a devestating bitch, to her very core of being, to be duped, lied to and betrayed, by men who should just keep their itchy sticks firmly in their own hands?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    This is supposedly an "adult" site but there are a lot of childish people on here. Surely honesty is better in all situations. At least then you can make an informed decision to proceed or not.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    My question.....are men more animal like in their behavior towards getting it , then women? Is a male more driven by his sexual urges then we females?I am sitting her thinking and reading all the posts. Yes we all have our rules and conditions, and thats great, but can or can't we understand the male or females who have to cheat to get laid?The hunter/ male/ has to get his prey somehow, that's his most desired want urge, he cant stop until he "killed it" so he will do everything to get it. When you as a woman play with him, what you do, because he put this nice yummy bite in front of you, he will start to feel exited, I think his bloodpressure goes up he can smell, taste the pussy. So how can he stop? However I believe we women know it, we know what we do deep down to men, we play as well. We make him wild for us.To get into a males psychic is not so easy for us women, because we have learned to wait to let him make all the moves....oh we know he cant stop anymore and he tells us everything we want to hear just to get this one fuck.So is this bad????I dont think so, its just how it is. The bottom line for us females is we just have to play our game, what ever this is for you women out there in the RHP ocean and when you see it as a great game then you are fine.Enjoy the ride with the males you choose, dont make each other guilty, both of you desided to fuck each others brain out, so admit it to yourself thats what you wanted.I say choose wisely when you can, but also sometimes we are overwhelmed by our sheer hornyness and cant help it. So what.....?Deep, deep down we are all driven by sex, thats our human nature....we are no different to animals we have just learned what to do or not to do.But also...are we women more domesticated in our urge to fuck? hmm Litonya

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Wow such empathy. So the women are never to blame huh? It's always the man who has to take full responsibility and all the anger from society. The lovely little woman at home who has forgotten what sex is and what her responsibility to her partner is is perfectly blameless? If some women cared more for their men maybe not as many would stray.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    But that doesn't excuse a man or a woman from bad behaviour. To me they are separate issues.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Ever thought about it? The woman at home doesn't listen to his needs and is equally to blame for the lack of communication - she is not listening! So after some time, and you see it here in the forums men who have not had sex or any intimacy with their wife for years, they go and decide to have an affair, because they still love their wife, their kids, they don't want to break that up and they still hope the wife will "wake up" to herself. And one day they are caught and all their families and friends shun him and society labels him a cheater and liar.... And the woman is labelled a selfless hero who gave up everything for her family. She is apportioned no blame what so ever.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Quoting 'justforfunisall' I ever came across about lying was...."Everyone lies Michael. The innocent lie because they don't want to be blamed for something they didn't do and the guilty lie because they don't have any other choice."Your guy would seem to fall into the second category. Why does he lie? Because he sees it as the only way to get what HE wants and he is selfish enough not to care about much else.Lady T....if you are talking about all men I would be disappointed although I would agree many think that way. But the grim reality is that the nice guys, the not so hot men do not even get a chance to lie, they are over looked.The married or guy with girlfriends, they lie because they would not get sex, or very little if they told the truth.I would Like a dollar for every guy that rolled off me and said, ohh hope you do not mind but i have a girlfriend/wife.Even knowing I am married, and that I have no morals when it comes to the moral police and married men.In their brain perhaps they think if I tell her before sex she may change her mind.After sex they say well I have bonked her now and If I want to bonk her again better fess up so we can all work around my wife/girlfriend.I do discorage the single guys with girlfriends , about coming back to my bed. RHP sexual with stray pussy is addictive, it takes away from the normal loving relationship you may soon develop with a girlfriend. You may get the loving warm intimate sex, but your willy has now the taste of Porn sex with older women or liberated women and that can cause a problem.so lies permeate all of this world, its the glue that binds us to our need for the trill. We may lie about our age, we lie about what we look like, we lie about our situations because sex is a powerful thing and when we are turned on there is often little logic in the mix. The worst part is we lie to ourselves. What our true motivation is, and how we can often use or sexual powers for all the wrong reasons.You will find no love here, you will find a path of empty lies , if you seek more you are on the fools road.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Are you putting your personal view in this...your lover is married isn't he? I remember a post you posted one time that you wanted an overnight hall pass from his wife. I see a bit of bitterness in your posts about the wives not taking responsibility... They are the ones who are NOT lying and being deceitful...are they not?? Just curious why you feel so strongly viewed on married men cheating and understanding where you're coming from and core values there. FOXY- Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    I agree. In his case the guy is lying to everyone. I don't condone that, but I am just trying to point out that it isn't always so black and white and sometimes a man does deserve some empathy for his plight. He is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. Sometimes, the poor bastard can't win. I am talking about the average Joe Blow... Not the players who lie and cheat just because they can or they get some thrill from it.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    When I first joined I was the same, I was very anti married men cheating but I have come to realize that it isn't so black and white. For instance I have a good friend who feels sex twice a year is sufficient and will not listen to her husband. That just isn't right... I feel that women are not taking responsibility for their part in all this. Like they are blameless. My married lover has an arrangement with his wife and boyfriend. We go out in public, I call and text him when ever I want. Yes, I have justified it to myself, but to me a guy lying to his wife and potential lovers is different in my eyes to someone who is open and honest with all the parties.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Not bitter at all... That is your judgement you are putting on me. I just feel more empathy for men than a lot of you women do.... And it has mainly come from listening to SOME of my friends and what they have in their marriages. Nothing to do with my sexy married lover. 😍 I don't think women are taking any responsibility and just blame the man for everything... This is a generalization based on what I have read in this forums and heard from other friends.... It is nothing to do with me personally. My parents were happily married until my Dad passed away, most of my close married friends are all still married... I have never been knits key involved with a divorce or anything like that.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Quoting 'MissKay' Hence me saying you'll never really know... ever.   I have been extremely lucky with the people I've met online, here and elsewhere. I have become a part of the bigger parts of their lives and I'm glad my gut has served me well.   And I have met some amazingly honest, sincere and awesome men/women. I've been included in their social circles and personal lives and I trust quite a few who make me feel safe.   I've also accepted your very apt bollocking in a recent thread in SWB and took it on board with gratitude as to my too trusting nature. I am too trusting and I have adapted my behaviour due to yours and Meeka's ire. I've only been doing this since December, it's a learning curve.   I can't count the number of guys I've called "bullshit" on and they've fessed up. Sulkily.   I also wonder how many slipped under my radar.   But, call me a fool, I still want to think the best of people mostly. I know all people wont have my level of ethics, but can't I hope 'some' do?    there is nothing wrong with wishing to see the best in people. Though one has to be a realist, I have been here two years and long enough to see the fall out offline on women and men. I have seen guys used by women for money, for getting help to fix up their house, mow the lawn or what ever. All in the promise of the golden pussy. Men get hurt just as much as women by sex lies and personal greed.I call it that because some people do not know when to stop, when to say hang on I am not doing the right thing by this person. A lie by omission is still a lie.Meeka is also right about the married man or woman situation. I know a woman who has not allowed her husband to have sex with her for ten years.Outwardly they look the happy couple, he dotes on her. But I know better, and he drinks to much and has not looked after himself, gone to seed. She cant stand him touching her but they own their house are late in life and neither has anywhere else to go. So there is a companion ship , thats better than nothing.when your old and sex goes out the door, its better than being alone for a lot of people.In the mean time, men and women when that terrible longing to be held, to be touched to be appreciated, they hungerThey are dying on the inside, yet they are the good husband the good wife, doing what they can by supporting their partners and children.The only way to get out and into sex with others is to find that key to unlock the doorthe Key of lies.Some the rare few tell the truth as really they just cant do it any other way. I tell the truth, only because my husband knows I a on rhp. I honestly do not know what I would do if he said, you cannot have sex with other men any more.When I was married to him, before my divorcee ten years ago, I never cheated but I would now I think as I am not that same woman who thought she did not like sex. I know better now. But is this good for me, the random lovers, yes for a while it has been. Now I am finding I am not so interested , maybe I need to retire. But I think I would end up like John Farnham, with more come backs that you could poke a stick or a willy at.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Should read involved. Sorry.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    My initially comment is a run over from another thread so doesn't really go with this topic. Sorry, it was direct at BBlues comment that there is never any justification for a man looking outside of his marriage. I think the guy in this thread is completely wrong for lying to the OP. Off with his balls!!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    I agree with pretty much everything you say Meeks. I have been in that kind of a marriage, with that kind of sex life. I just think that is a separate issue. I have quite bit of empathy for the frustration and the trapped feelings that kind of marriage generates. Torn between the need to feel close to another human being and pulled the other way by the love you have for your partner. It is very hurtful. I just think it is a poor excuse for the lack of integrity involved in lying to a woman about your situation. If all parties go into it with their eyes wide open, that's different. I see behaviour as described by the OP and others as inherently selfish and lacking. I feel that most keenly towards the "other woman" when she doesn't know she is the other woman. I guess what I am saying is that he may have reasons to be out cheating on his wife but that's no excuse to lie to the woman he is trying to bed. The lying to his wife for me is a different issue.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Quoting 'SUPERFOXXY' Are you putting your personal view in this...your lover is married isn't he? I remember a post you posted one time that you wanted an overnight hall pass from his wife. I see a bit of bitterness in your posts about the wives not taking responsibility... They are the ones who are NOT lying and being deceitful...are they not?? Just curious why you feel so strongly viewed on married men cheating and understanding where you're coming from and core values there. FOXY- Posted from rhpmobile We all have strong views, including yourself. I think Meekas post are logical, you see what you want to see. Those women are lying, when you get married, what does your wedding vowel say?to have and to hold, does it not? in sickness and in heath...not such a good thing if a person gets ill early into the marriage or has an accident. Can you even contemplate how a person feels who has a ill partner, and who craves to be held to be made love to. Some people fall in love with others out side of their marriage, the heart flies where it will. Its nest is not made of the twigs of logic.I think its brave of people to put up some of their own feelings and thoughts, to give some depth to a post, to share some of themselves in a post.so Foxy , I think you need to look down, you may have your toes over a line.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    I think you just implied I'm not haaawt :(Shattered!Now I am wishing I had the little emoticon with the pokey out tongue :)

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    My core values are. I don't lie about the big stuff... Little white lies about does you bum look big are okay. Don't cheat... I would not see a married man who is lying to his wife, I can empathize and I understand that things are not always so black and white but at the end of the day that is his problem not mine... So don't bring it to my door. Please dont assume that i am saying a man cheating an lying is okay. I would be absolutely furious if I found out someone I was seeing was married or attached. As per my profile... I only want to meet single men. The only reason I met up with my married man is because he interested me like no other person ever has on this forum and made me think. He had completely opened my mind to how people can have relationships and the different ways people can be happy. That you can love more than one person etc. AND because he has an agreement with the wife.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    No they are not the ones being deceitful or lying but they are being selfish, they are not being caring, they are putting their needs and wants above their partner. So they are not blameless... They need to take some responsibility for a marriage breakdown. Again, I am talking about where the wife has stopped being intimate with the husband so a specific situation.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Quoting 'justforfunisall' I think you just implied I'm not haaawt :(Shattered!Now I am wishing I had the little emoticon with the pokey out tongue :) Pats the bed, come lay here with me , trust me nice guys do get to finish at my house

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    I guess generally I am a nice guy and comfortable with that label. The paradox is.....in a bedroom or anywhere else I guess....sexually I am a bit twisted lol

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Do tell!! :)

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Ok I get where your coming from..Thank you. Foxy . - Posted from rhpmobile

  • ruby_blossum

    ruby_blossum

    11 years ago

    there is a huge difference between a married man-woman sneaking around behind their partners back and those in an open relationship.Many of us here have either met or know through the forums the man Meeka talks of....and are aware of his arrangements with his wife. You may wish to consider this before you continue your snarky comments to Meeka and others here. They have always been very boring. You have now had a succesful meet & greet in Brissy and must realise by now the openess and rapore that develops between like minded friends over time.I dont know why you have such open distaste for some of us here, dont really care.Just wanted to say that your comments have always been amusing (not in a laughing with you way )to read, your naiveity and ability to shoot the messenger, reminds me of a wannabee High School Prefect I used to know.

  • ruby_blossum

    ruby_blossum

    11 years ago

    sorry to hear this has happened to you.Who really knows why some men and women carry on like they do.Do they just like the chase?It seems they are so wrapt up in their own thoughts and needs they have no consideration to how their actions affect others, their partner or the ones they do it to.It is a very selfish thing to do.

  • ruby_blossum

    ruby_blossum

    11 years ago

    your last comment to Meeka wasnt there when I made my post...this time, I will pull my head in .... for now.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    It's not rocket science... Your damned if you do...your damned if you don't. I love the way you girl's have a good bead on things.   You have forgotten that it was you girls that taught us men how to lie in the first place...........   How do I look in this dress How do I look in these jeans Do you like my new hair doo   God forbid if we mere men were to say Your ass looks big...Cause that night's fucked if we do.   As for lying to get laid...that's desperation in my book! I thought that's why we were born with long arm's

  • ruby_blossum

    ruby_blossum

    11 years ago

    your response to Meeka wasnt there when I made my post.I will do the right thing and pull my head in....for now.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Way too twisted for the forums lol. Suffice it to say I do have a little depth ;)

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    How about some pictures then?? No fair! I love hearing people's dirty little secrets. You spoil sport. 😉

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Lills, I honestly feel for you. It was unfair for him to put you through that especially after you'd confided in him about your past. Move on and don't let pricks like him get you down. Life is far too short. xo- Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Witnessing the evolution and refinement of your understanding and comprehension of this complex issue makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Well maybe it exists, but I had a pic of me from the neck down make it out onto the net about 20 years ago and that's a mistake I am not eager to repeat! It was a very flattering pic and I nearly choked on my coffee when I walked into work and 3 of the women I worked with had it up on their screens.About 5 years later it did the emails at my now ex wife's work and she recognised it.......phew! Boy did I cop it! She thought it was a recent one and wanted to know what I had been up to. Thankfully I had obtained a scar in the interim which proved my innocence!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Sorry to generalise but men will say anything to get sex. Anything! It's just in the nature of the breed. As women we need to learn this.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Is it the old animalistic primal urge that leads some women to chase the bad boy? Is all the testing of a prospective male by some women just part of our animal biology? After all, we all have a rational mind combined with free will. It blaming it on primitive urges just a cop out? Now you have me thinking, although I think for me the rational mind will win out :)

  • madotara69

    madotara69

    11 years ago

    When I fell for Tara, I knew that I would never give her a reason not to marry me. In the meantime she fell pregnant, (strike us down for we had sinned) I asked Tara for her hand, and with an offer to go to NZ so she could be with her mother and first baby.I was in the good books, and very much appreciated for the thoughts and action.Tara's mum gave her this advice, for me.Give this husband sex whenever he wants it, and never argue with him on an empty stomach, always feed him first.with exceptions to both at times, Tara has taken her mothers words to heart. God love them both!Mado, Tara xx

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Look its never a nice thing to happen to anyone so my thoughts with you x Take comfort from knowing this is not about you and or your inability to judge / pick people. You met this bloke and you gave it your all by the sounds - so good on you for putting yourself out there! we meet people at varying stages of our lives - never lose sight of the fact many if not most of our unions along lifes journey are not meant to last forever! But we meet for a reason. Maybe you and your fella were indeed soul mates destined to meet but not destined to be together. Maybe this union will show him the way forward - show him that his marriage is over - show him what is out there. What have you learnt about yourself from this?i look back on even the worst relationships now with some understanding of what it meant for me at the time and note how they shaped me into who I am today. I am with a gorgeous woman today who shares my view on the world and on relationships in particular - we cannot be everything to one person - nor can one person give us everything we need. Maybe your bloke just needed your attention to give him hope that there is life beyond a failed marriage. By the sounds you gave him that and I bet you have opened his eyes for the better.People hurt us and we probably hurt others in return - we are fickle and emotional beings! Being honest and open about everything is obviously the best way to exist with a partner - in return we all need to be less judgemental of what we in turn learn from someone being honest! My partner and I have agreed to be fully honest with one another - our profile is a joint one - we both answer emails etc. That all sounds lovely and sweet - trust me its confronting and it stops us both in our tracks at different times - we demand honesty but often cant deal with the truth! So much like we sometimes struggle with honesty - being honest with someone else is complex and difficult.When we started as a couple - we both laid it all out to bare! She could have run a mile - but its who I am and its who she is! We both stayed and thus have foundations to give this a go! So dont depair - seek someone who shares your outlook on life - but accept it may not be forever - for a reason for a season blah blah :) take care and be kind to people everyone - we are not always perfect - tolerance is something we should all be advocates of on RHP. cheersDaz

  • cremecaramel

    cremecaramel

    11 years ago

    Are assholes- Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Happened to me aswell...he knew that i had bad relationships from them cheating and he said he went through the same and promised he could never do it to anyone...found out after 5 months that he was still living and dating the mother of his child. He lived in joondalup and I would visit all the time we even went away together when we got the chance. I was heart broken but did some searching and found her fb and told her everything! Never felt better and never trusted anyone since. I don't understand why people stay together and cheat? It's a bit Irish :/ I hate liars so I feel ur pain especially after a year, that's harsh..- Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    If a man can't host at his own place, then he is usually hiding something, such as a wife and kids.- Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Yes my lover said that to me once... About how the man always gets blamed and vilified when a couple get divorced. At the time I kind of understood but I never gave it much thought. Since then I have listened to a few of my girlfriends and read/heard some stories from men and I am left shaking my head. What to do this women expect is going to happen? They are being very unfair on the person they are supposed to love and cherish I think. Mado... Good advice. I will never forgetting my female doctor saying to me years ago... You must sleep with your husband at least three times a week. Doesn't matter if you are tired or you don't feel like it. This is your duty!! Seems very archaic in a way but I a understand more and more what she meant.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Bettina Arndt said the same thing,it should apply to husbands too.I am one of those women who was married to a man who didn't want to have sex...well at least not with me

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    For talking about something else. Like I said somewhere up there I don't think he did the right thing and if I were you I would be furious! Why do some guys do that. I really know... As LadyT says they lie to her when they know she is married, doesn't care if they are and is only after sex. So why do they bullshit? Because thy don't really believe a woman when she says she doesn't care, they don't believe a woman can separate love and sex. We have all been conditioned to think women can't separate the two and can't enjoy sex without attachment... Therefore men have to lie I suppose.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    or a really messy house...trust me, I have been to a couple ,it is how I honed my cross country skills

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    lol thats a great comment.you are funny

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    I have been seeing this older woman for the past two months and all she does it keep secrets and lies blind to me!! All I want is an honest woman that does not do all that stuff!! I just finished a long term relationship off 8 yrs and two kids because off the lies and constantly hiding things!!!! I'm so over it!!!- Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    I made my comment on the fact that to me cheaters always have an excuse and yes the other thread played on that.This man led this woman on for his own selfish reasons.........regardless of a wife at home and reason he has actually shown that his needs outweighed everyone elses feelings. I have known women who did not sleep with their husbands and i fInd that strange....one I think has hormone issues another plainly states sex doesnt interest her and I dont think it ever did. Should their husbands cheat? I acknowledge people have needs I had them too its hard to weigh into, its the lying decieving and hurt it causes.Both have choices.........its not the sex or lack of that ruins a marraige. There are other factors. I am pretty sure the latter of the husbands cheated....I know him well... was he justified? possibly? did he hurt her? frankly I dont think she cared enough for him to be hurt...their marraige ended and amicably.Some men cheat for the thrill and just because they want to.......those men will give lies as excuses. So I feel I can not believe what a man who cheats says.Even the man who seems to have some valid reason and says he cant leave for the childrens sake.....seems to be opting out.....he has a choice.....I can not fathom how staying for the children will truly benefit the children. Now I feel like I am up on a mighty high horse but I cant help it ... I just dont see it your way....(Meeks)My father left my mother for another woman people have said he cheated on my mother I dont take it personally leaving was the right thing to do.....he stayed with the other woman for many years.Maybe its just that I hope that I never end up with a man who cheats on me......and please dont tell me I must fuck him stupid....thats a given. Maybe I am too empathetic as I dont want anyone to be HURT

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Quoting 'Beneath_blueeyes'I made my comment on the fact that to me cheaters always have an excuse and yes the other thread played on that.This man led this woman on for his own selfish reasons.........regardless of a wife at home and reason he has actually shown that his needs outweighed everyone elses feelings. I have known women who did not sleep with their husbands and i fInd that strange....one I think has hormone issues another plainly states sex doesnt interest her and I dont think it ever did. Should their husbands cheat? I acknowledge people have needs I had them too its hard to weigh into, its the lying decieving and hurt it causes.Both have choices.........its not the sex or lack of that ruins a marraige. There are other factors. I am pretty sure the latter of the husbands cheated....I know him well... was he justified? possibly? did he hurt her? frankly I dont think she cared enough for him to be hurt...their marraige ended and amicably.Some men cheat for the thrill and just because they want to.......those men will give lies as excuses. So I feel I can not believe what a man who cheats says.Even the man who seems to have some valid reason and says he cant leave for the childrens sake.....seems to be opting out.....he has a choice.....I can not fathom how staying for the children will truly benefit the children. Now I feel like I am up on a mighty high horse but I cant help it ... I just dont see it your way....(Meeks)My father left my mother for another woman people have said he cheated on my mother I dont take it personally leaving was the right thing to do.....he stayed with the other woman for many years.Maybe its just that I hope that I never end up with a man who cheats on me......and please dont tell me I must fuck him stupid....thats a given. Maybe I am too empathetic as I dont want anyone to be HURT(Benene or what ever}

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    I must say I do agree with just about all of what you've said.....especially the comment re staying for the sake of the kids. It's a strange statement as kids pickup on the tension between the adults. It weighs them down more so than separation. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    So what is a person supposed to do, man or woman, leave the marriage and breakup the family when all they actually want is to have a family and a normal relationship with the person they love. What would we all say if a man said I am leaving her because she is not keeping to her marriage vows. I can just hear the outcry now. I feel as if you and Superfoxxy don't see men as people sometimes... They are just the enemy. It's not me bringing my emotions and personal feelings into this. I have a GF who has a fetish for married men. Will only see married men and is on AM and other sites for people who want to cheat. She has met lots and lots of men for a drink, 99% of the time it doesn't lead anywhere, however this is what she has learned from these men... They don't want to cheat, they feel ignored and excluded from their own family, thy feel like a cash cow, they feel unloved, they have been made to feel like a sexual pervert for wanting sex and intimacy, they are tired of hearing the word no and to feel as if they are being unreasonable, the wife doesn't listen to them, the wife doesn't care, they just want someone to talk to them and see them as a person not the cash cow, they don't have any close friends they can discuss all these things with so they join a sex site so that they can talk to a woman who still sees hem as a man... And yes most of them just want their relationship to go back to how it used to be. They just want to be happy. Easy for me to say as I have never been married but us women are always saying we are great communicators.... So I just think that some women need to start listening and observing more. There life partner is really unhappy and they just don't give a shit! Sex isn't everything but love and intimacy is important and we are making men feel ashamed for wanting something that is normal and natural. I am not saying a man is right to cheat... But I feel as if women immediately assume it is all his fault when sometimes a woman is as much to blame. I was and am very upset at the "child sex abuse" comment. It takes a lot of courage and probably heartache to be with someone who has been abused, or suffers depression, etc etc and I think it's unfair to make that person feel like a pervert for needing sex or intimacy.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    a big like button to you...absolutely agree,and that has been my experience too and it happens to women as well.Lack of intimacy is a huge one,it is not just about lack of sex,it's the whole enchilada.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Nah to say I don't see men as men is an unfair comment. I see men as humans with same needs and wants, feelings/thoughts as another person. Cause they are different sex makes no difference to me. However when one has to lie and be deceitful and not take responsibility of their behavior and put blame on others, use excuses etc etc..is not ok! I am on the same wave length as you. I understand and am open to a lot of stuff believe you me I am. I am open to an Open relationship. Some things I do not understand but I try to. However sometimes a facetoface conversation is better. Things get lost in written form. People read things differently in different tones etc etc. That is what makes the Forums difficult at times. FOXY - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    You say I am a man basher what a load of shit.............it applies both ways......I was in a loveless marraige was propositioned many times and at one stage didnt have sex for at least four years. But the marraige ended not because of the lack of sex. I actually asked a gf after I left my ex why didnt I cheat? I had so many opportunities and even I didnt have the answer........If someone isnt getting sex in their marraige guess what it is just a lttle bit of what will lead to its demise......will cheating save the marraige?I understand needs. What you say here I have heard many times beforeThey don't want to cheat, they feel ignored and excluded from their own family, thy feel like a cash cow, they feel unloved, they have been made to feel like a sexual pervert for wanting sex and intimacy, they are tired of hearing the word no and to feel as if they are being unreasonable, the wife doesn't listen to them, the wife doesn't care, they just want someone to talk to them and see them as a person not the cash cow, they don't have any close friends they can discuss all these things with so they join a sex site so that they can talk to a woman who still sees hem as a man... And yes most of them just want their relationship to go back to how it used to be. They just want to be happy. This is such a life cycle I dont know how to fix that ....possibly because when most marraiges start out it is a certain phase two people love fun......then comes mortage, children work work work bills busy......oh what happened to those two people?? Life gets complicated.What I am saying is I cant stand the lying......I think if you start cheating are you really fixing whats broken?I could go on and defend what I say but it doesnt matter people can do what they like its just my opinion and I doubt it will influence anyone.So maybe I go now and shutup and sit in the corner.

  • madotara69

    madotara69

    11 years ago

    When you get what you want in your struggle for self, and the world makes you king for a dayThen go to the mirror, and see what the man has to sayFor it isn't your Father, Mother or Wife, who's judgement upon you must passThe fellows verdict counts most in your life, is the one staring back from the glassSome people may think your a straight shooting chum, and call you a wonderful guyBut the man in the mirror says your a bum, if you can't look him straight in the eyesHe's the fellow to please, never mind all the rest, for he's clear with you to the endAnd you have passed your most difficult and dangerous test, if the man in the glass is your friendYou may fool the whole world, down the pathways of years, and pats on the back as you passYour final reward will be heartache and tears, if you have cheated the man in the glass

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    No I don't think cheating is the answer either. But it isn't as black and white as some make out.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Just how much of what you said in that last post resonates with me Meeka (except the joining the sex site bit, that came after it was all done). I think many men use sexuality and also view it as a very big part of them expressing intimacy, but Freya is definitely right about the whole enchilada part. The reasons a married man may cheat are often very simple.....the need to feel close to and have physical contact with a human being. I would say for many of those men it is not just the getting their rocks off part, lets be honest we can pretty much all do that by ourselves, it is as simple as feeling wanted and having that touch. Other posters have talked about all the excuses given for cheating and I feel have put it all back on the man but Meeka has a valid point, why are they cheating? And in the cases like she describes, is it entirely the man's doing that the situation has arisen? I think not. I am not talking about the man who just can't keep his pants zipped here, but the kind of relationship Meeka mentioned. There are those who will always believe cheating is totally unacceptable, I would challenge them to also consider if it is sometimes understandable. Not asking you to agree with it, just to think.I didn't interpret Foxxy's comments in the same vein you did though Meeka, I think she was considering the lies involved in cheating as a separate issue, as was I. I may be misinterpreting the OP, but I thought she was talking about the lying to her. I still don't condone that really. If you feel the need to go outside your marriage for whatever reason, then why lie about it. That is a whole other ball game and for me is akin to the man who tells a woman everything she wants to hear, adjusts his personality to what she wants, just to get laid. Personally I would be disgusted with myself if I did that.A very emotive topic this, gets to the core of us all.....love. When it goes wrong.....emotionally.....there are no winners but I don't subscribe to the philosophy "the only winning move is not to play". Take each day as it comes, enjoy life and make your choices and take your chances.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    While I was busy typing a thesis, Mado & Tara got to the core of it. I used to have a signature line on these forums man many moons ago....."honesty, not helping me get laid but it sure helps when you look in the mirror"Hear! Hear! Mado & Tara

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Lady T Careful being so honest others may interpret it wrong haha Love your work. Obrien from the shadows :-) (Re: cream pie thread)- Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Because...People lie.And so do you.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Maybe Im just a huge weakling looser who never had the balls to go through with it......... I wont say I am not a fruit loop because I very well could be which means I might have a place in this cereal bowl

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Thank you for sharing such intimate and a very personal issue that means a lot to you. I understand totally where you are coming from. To be called a "fruit loop" actually disappointed me when I read that...I am sorry that happened. I read your posts and I got something from it. Thank you Hugs FOXY - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    if you did have an affair.... It wouldn't have made you the worst person in the world either. I know I wouldn't have blamed you if you had. You may not agree with it but some people honestly look at having an affair as a way Of keeping the marriage together and of keeping everyone happy. You may sneer at that, I know once upon a time I certainly would have, but who is to say what is right or wrong or what is best. I think a lot of wives if they stopped to think about it must know that the sex ban in their marriage is not sustainable. Yep mortgage, kids, work, friends, family, commitments get in the way.... But shouldn't your partner also get top billing of your time? Don't you need to work at marriage? To me all that is also an excuse, a lie and a way of cheating your husband. Just a different perspective. Lordy.... Look at the single woman preach!!! LMAO. Sorry. 😌

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Some women should be looking in that mirror too!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    The hardest thing these days is to keep it together. My husband is fifo. I am back with him after ten years divorced.When your in a relationship and have children, BB its not that easy to just leave your family , its ok if your rich enough for a start. I have been on the end of that single women with kids line, its not a good place to be.I think my husband became the walking pay cheque, and I became the exhausted single mother while he was away. I worked full time. We all do this now as its almost impossible for women to stay at home, and even if they do if the shit hits the fan they have to to to work, and are left with no work skills so employment gets harder.I was talking to a guy about this the other day, in the same situation where the sex has dried up. Married to a woman he adores. He said there is no choice to make between my children and my cock. Yes he could leave, he could set up someplace else , he then leaves his children and children do need both parents or at least some role models of male and female in the mix.My father and mother both cheated on each other but even worse they would , leave their partners if they were not happy. Both did that four times, yes married four times. All of I want more sex or better sex or prettier sex or what ever.the sad damage is that , there are five of us, scattered to the winds in foster care, group homes or adopted out.Infidelity is a small thing , compared to the running away from your parental responsibility.I was mean to my husband, I hated sex with him, I used him as a pay packet, but then he had his faults as well when it came to sex. I think he did the right thing to leave me in the end for another woman. I made his life a living hell.Now we are back together, and now I get what he is about, but then I am not exhausted by raising children and working full time and thinking there is something better out there. and he for his part, understands that my sexuality cannot be held by him, its mine. perhaps if women in a marriage were more open to allow men to go have their needs met , men would not have to do as they do.If I had a dick, i would do the same. Its an amazing thing a cock , it works so much better then a woman s cunt, as most time you work it you get the big O, women are not so lucky and that is why not so driven by sex.we have a canoe, they have an aircraft carrier. And we blame them for wanting to use that powerful toy? There are always two sides and the truth lies someplace in the middle and we only hear one side on here, so what would this man have to say? we all may change our views if he had a voice here.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    I wasnt going to come back but I was thinking of the people I know who have cheated and the people who were hurt by it....My cousin who still doesnt talk to her mother after 35 years bloames her but I believe that both parents were swingers and mum fell for a lover.....dad was not innocent...I am so sad that my cousin does not forgive her mother I would.A dear friends husband who gave such a lame excuse for cheating as he had been overseas and played up with a thai girl so therefore felt so bad and therefore continued his infildelities at home because he felt he had failed his marraige...I believe he just enjoyed fucking the 23 yr old....the worst about that was her friends ....when she and he decided to make the marraige work they berated her behind her back ............she told me she loved him and thats all i needed to know...I think he still cheats I think she knows but I know.Its the hurt the children feel when they find out one parent has cheated, they cant comprehend Lady T that people will choose sex over FAMILY.I think many men use sexuality and also view it as a very big part of them expressing intimacy I often here women say he only touches me when he wants sex.....women want intimacy too.....but they love to be loved....I think sometimes we get all confused.I am worried too that I am telling to many secrets of people who are close to me......am I know crossing boundaries I hope not.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    The heart is never neutral,the most natural beauty in the world is honesty and moral truth.For all beauty is truth.Anthony Ashley Cooper,Third Earl of Shaftesbury 1671-1713

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    thanks to all in this thread, it's great to see the topic discussed without the usual hysterical black and white moralising.Second, since it is mainly women telling the tale about men I'm just going to assume that it cuts both ways.I was in a sexless marriage for 6yrs, I wasn't the pay packet but I was the labourer, equal share of all domestic duties, child rearing, and chuck on top building an extension and renovating the existing house. And then there was the list of "i wants" No sex, no intimacy, just work harder. We went to counselling, we had kid free weekends away, zilch, too tired, sorry not interested. I withdrew, went into the man cave. So I got the blame for shutting her out.So we separated.Then I discovered internet dating yada yada yada.It's amazing but it never occurred to me to cheat, in hindsight I wonder why but in my heart I know it wouldn't have worked, it just would have cranked up the tension level further.But having been in that emotionally neglected space I can see why others would, how in different circumstances people could go there, so I don't judge those that do.Sure some people just do it for the thrill of the deceit. I don't condone that.One of my fb's is married, we see each other about once every two months, her husband was left impotent after surgery, he doesn't know she has a lover, I just scratch her itch now and again. She loves him deeply, I just fill a void. End of.RHP is an adult dating site or sex site depending on your view that contains a whole gamut of different wants and needs, some people here are quite vanilla, and some are waaaaay out on left field. Yes there are "cheaters", it's your choice to be here, and who and how you interact is your responsibility.Ranting and railing about other peoples morals or lack of is akin to moving next to the airport and whingeing about the planes.Rxx

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    I just don't entirely agree, but I do understand what you mean and I appreciate you took the time to express yourself.The thing I keep coming back to is that there are far wider implications than just a choice between family and your cock. It's far more complex.I haven't posted this before but this was my experience and it is how it can end up. Mine is far from the worst story I have heard and I rely acknowledge that there are many horror stories for women in the process, I don't mean any of it to belittle them. Through work I come across those stories constantly with both men and women behaving badly after separation and divorce.When married we had all those conversations about how if we ever broke up we would be reasonable, about both custody and finances. Cheating I don't think was an issue but I'm not 100% sure. When it came down to it, I had the most humiliating, painful and frustrating day of my life, bar none. The negotiating principle for the day was.....agree to this right now or we go straight into Court next door and have a hearing. It was like a conversation with Darth Vader..."I am altering the deal, pray I don't alter it any further". But that's what happened. Every time I agreed to give away another little piece of the property, the other side came back with a further demand. And the hearing would have cost at the absolute minimum $20, 000, so you have to make a rational decision or you are much worse off. At the end of the property settlement part, I was left at 42 with $40,000 in super, a dining table and buffet my parents had given us, a 6 year old lounge suite, fridge, knives and forks and some minor household appliances. Oh and 2 beds. I was also left with enough debt that I was seriously advised to consider bankruptcy, but owing to my occupation that wasn't really an option. She got everything else, house, car and almost all the valuables from the contents of the house. I had to move back in with my mother for a time to be able to get rid of some of the debt and accrue enough to put together a bond.I am thankful I did fairly well with custody, I still get to see my boys a fair bit.But it doesn't stop there. After the divorce, comes more. The ostracism from friends that began with the separation continued to completion when they learned just how badly she had done financially in the separation. Depending on which particular teacher at school I am dealing with, I am treated either reasonably or as if I were already deceased. The school counsellor asked me to consider whether my occupation was incompatible with being a good father post-divorce. I am entirely isolated from the parents of my children's friends for basically 2 reasons. First they have obviously been told some unsavoury things about me and my character and secondly, if they show any inclination towards even being civil with me, my ex cuts them off for a bit and that impacts their children's relationship with my children.The things my children have been told about me sometimes sicken me and it very obviously confuses and saddens them. All I can do is minimise the impact it has on them. The taunts are constant and petty, I was sent an email informing me I was behind on child support tied with threats about not being able to see the children. When I contacted the Child Support Agency they informed me that yes I was indeed behind in child support but no real problem, I could catch up when I got the snail mail of the latest assessment. I was behind by $2.31.I think that's probably a long enough post outlining a few basics of my situation, enough for me to say what I will say. It's not all ways a simple thing to walk out on a marriage for any man or woman. My story is mild compared to what others have had. Every man knows a similar or worse story from another man who has been through it. Every woman knows a similar or worse story from another woman who has been through it.So is staying and cheating or staying and not cheating a cowards way out? Perhaps. Is going always the right decision? Perhaps.To quote Star Wars, the bottom line is....."Only a Sith deals in absolutes" and who wants to be one of those? Sure you get a cool red light saber, but the Jedi will kick your arse in the end and being a bad guy doesn't sound like all that much fun.There are few simple answers in life and regarding relationships it seems to me, even fewer .

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Just to clarify, I wasn't the only pay-packet, we both worked.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    we started talking about cheating.........lying........now this is your response?? breakdown of marraiges and the fallout.Wow thank god I left mine....my painful life of misery...oh yes he thinks he is hard done by....poor baby....but it is I who lost out....My children the most important thing to me....and god knows why..this has nothing to do with cheating. Oh it cost money too and stress and broke me to and I was the one who walked.I could tell you some stories too of the destruction and things that happen to children from broken homes.......I know of stories where children were brought up with parents who stayed together too.People will cheat for fun and for reasons.......please dont tell me its so they can stay married..........Sometimes those men who stay married have it so good at home as well.......sometimes those men who tell these woe is me stories are being fed cared for, their children being parented and even they are even being loved. We know from life that all marraiges wont last .......some people think if they stay married that all will be good in one way or another. I feel you wanted your marraige to last ....did you not see the cracks? This belongs in another thread. The stay married...unhappy...keep my money....assests...friends dignity thread....This maybe why I started the relationships thread....I feel people have been hurt are so scared.to be continued I am sure.................................................................

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    great balanced post....love the airport analogy

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Not that I have had a few rough times. The point was that staying or going is not a simple thing. It's not a case of.....this isn't working, time to move on. It's a lot more complex than that. This kind of fallout with a relationship breakup is not unusual for men or for women. What I am saying is that it is not a simple choice just to leave, nor is it to stay. Some will choose each option, some will choose to cheat and stay, others to cheat and leave. I am much happier out of the marriage but it came at considerable cost, a cost I am still paying on occasion. So take a more flexible view in some respects, I am less ready to say its wrong in every circumstance and it's not so black and white for me.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    The children are the biggie for many people but for me/us it was obvious the children were being affected.And happy parents = happy children. My little people are thriving !

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Im the fruitloop. Sometimes you read things that just arnt there. Im very sorry for what I said.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    I agree totally with what you say, as much as liars and cheats are bad for marriages, relationships and most everything else, being on a site like this, which promotes the body beautiful and the ego's that go with that, one has to ask one self, why try to find the perfect partner on a site which doesn't vet people and their backgrounds in the first place? As with the analogy of the airport, one has to expect noise and disruption in your lives if you move blindly into an area that promotes itself as 'wide open spaces and close to modern transport' lol, this site is the same, you get what you seek, and yes the price can be high, but, going in with rose coloured glasses is rarely going to have a happy ending.However, going back to the initial thread of this post, I feel for you, noone likes to be hurt, and the more you trust and expose your inner weaknesses, the worse it is when it gets abused.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Hi! Hun sorry for your situation .Learn the Positive things from the experience so you can grow understand what your emotional issues were that you attracted him.. Why do they Lie?because they can !! It's so much easier when you're talking to a screen or a voice . So much different in person.as you discovered. Vibes I'm Picking up that both of you were seeking someone to make you feel special and needed, because both of you have been burned emotionally .The issue was really timing.. You're separated from your Relationship he isn't even tho. it's not fulfilling his needs and desires. You did by being the sweet accommodating Woman you are. Who made this Guy with low self esteem, emotionally hurting not only feel Special, Sexy Admired and cared for... Once he was caught into that Perfect World with you that answered all his dreams,it was hard for him to come back to reality and see the Relationship with you for what it is. The last thing he wanted to do was hurt you or anyone.. It took a lot for him to tell you that especially before having sex with you That shows he was an Honorable Guy,even if a little out of his depth.. You Hun got what you were seeking,as I mentioned,he made you feel Special and needed,he brightened your day,filled your nights with wonderful dreams . You were Happy but you were in so much need to prove to yourself that you were wanted by a man still even tho; your Husband had rejected you . Your self worth was Low that you latched onto this Guy who was very nice to you and subconsciously shut your eyes and lived the Fairy tale along with him until reality was thrust upon you .. Know you're a Wonderful Unique Woman Love yourself and others will be attracted to you for the right reasons because you won't accept less .. Cheers Lu :)

  • Coops27M

    Coops27M

    11 years ago

    Is people who lie to themselves and seem to truly believe it... How does that even work? Don't worry OP we aren't all like that. Don't let his dishonesty colour everyone for yourself. As the wise MadamDragonfly says though it wasn't all bad so perhaps focus on the good majority rather than the hurtful end :) - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    I've noticed that some women do the same thing.. when my son was approx 18 months old his mother came to me and informed me that she was pregnant again and that I wasn't the father... and was told very abruptly to move out.. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Simply because it is easier. As many posters mentioned it was an easier way to get what this person wanted. But people also lie to avoid a confrontation or to avoid a difficult or painful discussion or because they think it will hurt someone else less (the irony being that it usually doesn't turn out that way). The problem with the last one is that the lie told to avoid often hurting someone else usually ends up hurting them more and then leads that person to question what else was lied about and if anything that was said was true. I once read a quotation about integrity which I will butcher for anyone who cares to read it....it went something like......integrity is like a balloon, it only takes one hole and then it is gone.

  • Playful2looking

    Playful2looking

    11 years ago

    well ya meeka your reply about cheating husbands on page one was good. most woman have good realtionships with men. it being father brother gran dad or uncle, husband . yes I will not deny it there are some real bastards that lie and cheat but generally most men are cool. the guy that lied to this lady wasn't cool he should have told her early in their relationship. remember if the guys sounds too good. you ask yourself why is he so good because most men me included have a few warts we arent perfect

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Used to love that old joke...what are the four biggest lies. 1 I love you 2 I'll give you a call 3 I promise I wont come in your mouth. 4 The cheques in the mail. Seriously though, lets be honest and admit that we all lie, by degree.   I recall a study done years ago that calculated that adults lie at least eight times every day. We lie to our partners, kids, the police, the tax office, insurance company, our boss, employees and everyone in between. Its no biggie that on a site like RHP there is slim to no chance of getting much honesty. It's a hook up site nothing more and people will say and do anything to get what they want. If you're looking for anything more than casual random sex this aint the place to be.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    What an absolute load of bollocks this thread is. Women cheat too. Men can get hurt too. Not all guys are going to lie to you to get laid. But hey, guess what. This ain't RSVP, sweethearts. This is a sex site. Are married guys gonna lie about being single? Sure. I don't know why, I come across plenty of female profiles on here looking to find married men. I still remember one woman I met a while ago. Had been chatting online for ages. We finally met after she came home from a holiday, and we got down to business. Afterwards she tells me the dress she had been sewing was her wedding dress, the holiday her honeymoon, and she proceeded to show me her wedding and honeymoon photos. After we had sex.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    Most if not ALL the guys we come across on this site are in a relationship with a GF or wife - most are listed as 'single' though.   We don't judge it - its not our business. We are after sex not a new relationship.   If you are on this site hoping to find a man to commit to you, you might be waiting a long time. In our experience, men are on here for sex/FWB/FB's, nothing more and nothing less. Not that there is anything wrong with that ;)

  • RHP

    RHP User

    11 years ago

    From what I read here, I am a liar because I am a man.

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