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A sense of entitlement
March 22 2015
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting '50zcool' I love chivalry, and it's mostly received with grace, unfortunately a minority have learnt/been taught to exploit it which of course spoils it for everyone else. There are serial daters who simply want a free meal and drinks and never had anything else in mind. I have had a few girlfriends on various date sitesthey say they get dinner every time with different guys and never put outI think that's pretty mean to use guys that way
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'OF_78' Why is it so many men claim the "opposite" of a nice guy is a "bad boy". All I say to these "nice guys" is have a damm oppinion on something. I don't want a woman to be a "yes" person... And if I may be permitted to guess, I certainly think women don't want a "yes" man. Ok, maybe if they're feeling down it is nice to have a shoulder to cry on. But that ain't gonna spark a relationship - though it might get you a one night stand that will likely filter out. If you can't have an opponion on things and learn and get into lively debates. Then how on earth are you to manage the full emotional range of an individual. Nice guy might get the pity root, but what's enjoyable about giving to a charity case. Now none of this has anything to do with being a "bad boy". It has more to do with growing up and being your own man... not an accessory (close on mother son) relationship to a woman. So to entice some manliness... where were all these boys complaining about "bad boys" when balls were being handed out... ie grow a pair :p
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RHP User
10 years ago
I think you summed it up in guys thinking.... nice = soft . Therefore... hard = bad ... by the converse logic. Ever heard of a soft leader? I've heard of many caring and compassionate leaders... and some of them tough as nails. But they need not be "bad".
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hardnslow
10 years ago
I agree with Plat many guys are just after a quick root lol but I like to get to know somebody first because I want a regular FB not a one night stand
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RHP User
10 years ago
Yes it's mean, but if men didn't think with their cocks it wouldn't work would it ? However that doesn't make it right. While I doubt many mature women operate that way, many younger women quickly learn the "buy me a drink ?" scam, and eager young cocks go for it, the problem is, they are teaching young men how to treat them, and what their value is. And that can't be good. For either sex. Will those young women appear on forums 20 years later complaining about being used by men ? I don't blame anyone, it's just unfortunate, I have a son and a daughter and in due course will be doing my bit to end it. Peace x.
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RHP User
10 years ago
I guess from my generation, when you were out and men were interested they would buy you a drink. If men paid for dinner, you could bet your life it might end in tears if you did not let them have a grope or kiss. I have had men say to me, well I bought you dinner the lest i can have is a kiss. I have sold my soul for dinner when I was a starving uni student. It really never crossed our minds to pay for a drink back, unless it was a male friend the date game was a different game than they play today. My girls have actually moved away because they got sick of the aggression, in Perth when they would go out at night. The got sick of men being pushy and drunk, trying to take selfies with them. I guess they are entitled to a bit of respect when out, let alone the date stage. Where do women actually met men anymore? where can they go , to be in a place where a guy is not with his mates hunting in packs and most do not come up to talk they approach with the aim of the score. I feel for young people, the guys that are not out there, the guys who do not do the pubs ,nor even have that much money to spend for a dinner. It must be so hard for those people. I do think women still like a man to pay for the first date, after all you ask her out even on this site, you ask her out. You ask her out why? When your on this site I think your expectations are leaning towards sex, no matter how much of a gentleman you are. Your here right? The name says it all Red Hot Pie Being entitled, well yes I can see that. I can see how women get to that point, and how men can also get to that point. I can see a lot of women that are now just watching from the benches. The like the chat, and the forums and the meeting up with other like minded women. But they have lost faith I guess in the system of dating, the rules keep changing , the age demographic of this site seems there are a lot of battled scared people from the date game. the sex game is less complex than the relationship game. We may all appear the entitled at times, but what are we really? Just trying to make our way to a place where we might be happy ,curled up in the arms of someone that cares about us.
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'Mischeviouslad' Quoting '50zcool' I love chivalry, and it's mostly received with grace, unfortunately a minority have learnt/been taught to exploit it which of course spoils it for everyone else. There are serial daters who simply want a free meal and drinks and never had anything else in mind. THAT.... is the sense of entitlement right there. To think that someone has decided to meet you for drinks and or dinner..... to find out more about you..... and that they're not permitted to decide on learning more... that they don't wish to take it further... or not further, then. Oh bollocks DG.The serial dater I describe has no interest in the meeting other than a free feed. Any other interest is feigned. I don't think entertaining a possibility is entitlement.
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RHP User
10 years ago
Yes, the world is full of dead beats. But I just say that if you're afraid of acheiving something wonderful because you're afraid of the pitfalls... then you likely don't deserve that wonderful thing. Yes, women using men for money is awful. So is men using women for sex. Hey, and there's a thriving business industry connecting these two issues. But if you're afraid of taking a leap then you'll just be stuck where you are. Of course you don't do this blindly so a little time to get to know each other is a good thing. So a chat over a coffee (or other beverage if coffee ain't your thing) is for me the most healthiest start. No coffee, well then no chance of seeing the big fella :p
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Mischeviouslad
10 years ago
Well, 50.... while I concede you know this person better than I....... ......the truth is that only they.... maybe.... know if their agenda is deliberately one seeking free meals and gifts. And I doubt that. Because its a pretty boring waste of time to spend so much time with people who you have no interest in spending time with. So maybe.... she's very picky, and the men she meets fail to set her rockets to.... ignite. Maybe thats a function of her own choices in men too.
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RHP User
10 years ago
Agree with 50zkool here. I've known women who when they were broke would go on dates merely for the free food. They give the rest of us who are actually there for the guy and not the perks a bad name.
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RHP User
10 years ago
I can never decide 😊 - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
10 years ago
How do you go in three messages from let's meet for a cup of tea,and conversation...to I hope you want to have sex with me on Tuesday ...after all this is an adult meeting site.. when I said all I was expecting was a cup of tea and conversation he did a rethink...xxFreya
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RHP User
10 years ago
You should have told him "of course we are going to have sex, I love having Devonshire tea as would like nothing better to bend over while you apply cream on my scone" :P Seriously, some people's lack of emotional intelligence is astounding really.
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RHP User
10 years ago
"Sex? Only if you are buying the tea, you big spender you"
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RHP User
10 years ago
You shouldn't have used the word teabag, silly! Easy mistake to make. :-P
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madotara69
10 years ago
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RHP User
10 years ago
We were going to a tea shop in the Brsbane Arcade..real tea,not a tea bagging in sight ..lol xxFreya
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inspirit
10 years ago
So he is hoping to have sex on Tuesday ... with Freya. What is wrong with that?? Sorry but I see that as a compliment. His wishfull thinking but all you had to say was....maybe you will/maybe you won't. Sorry but...... thats just mean girls. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
10 years ago
Inspirit,once again you can't resist having a go at me,should I be flattered..and just because I didn't say yes of course I will have sex with a man I have never met...meh .
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RHP User
10 years ago
Sorry Inspirity but some of us like our men to be a little more sophisticated and definitely less desparate than what a comment like that signifies. At the end of the day people like other people with similar values and level of intelligence. I think that is normal. And before you tell me that guy had every right to hope for sex after a first meeting over a cup of tea... Yes okay. But obviously he needs to contact women who are into that as well. I personally know that I wouldn't be into a guy like that. Freya, I tip my hat to you that you are still doing this online gig. Obviously a better woman than me.
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RHP User
10 years ago
I am sure I sound like a snooty bitch but my care factor is zero.
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inspirit
10 years ago
I see your point of view and I also see mine. I wont any more!
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RHP User
10 years ago
Saying that maybe you will, maybe you won't is mean? Now I've heard everything.
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inspirit
10 years ago
Ever
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RHP User
10 years ago
How we are all getting along. :p
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inspirit
10 years ago
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RHP User
10 years ago
Yes, kinda have to agree the online brings out the "funny"... after meeting some online, the sampling does not give me much hope... finding I get a lot more chemistry in meeting in person (especially as I do social dancing)... just don't like the anticlimax when they only want the vanilla :p
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madotara69
10 years ago
Tonight the sky above Reminds me how to love Walking through wintertime Where the stars all shine The angel on the stairs Will tell you I was there Under the front porch light On a mystery night I've been sitting watching life pass from the sidelines Been waiting for a dream to seep in through my blinds I wondered what might happen if I left this all behind Would the wind be at my back ? Could I get you off my mind This time The neon lights in bars And headlights from the cars Have started a symphony Surrounding Me The things I left behind Have melted in my mind And now there's a purity Inside of me I've been sitting watching life pass from the sidelines Been waiting for a dream to seep in through my blinds I wondered what might happen if I left this all behind Would the wind be at my back ? Could I get you off my mind This time (Jonathan Rhys Meyers)
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'sir_stir' I can never decide 😊 - Posted from rhpmobile salted
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'Meander' You shouldn't have used the word teabag, silly! Easy mistake to make. :-P
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RHP User
10 years ago
Yes I have found this site seems to attract Sociopathic personality types. Extreme sexual fetishes that border on pathological, sex addiction, grandiose sense of self worth & a huge sense of entitlement is common for these types.
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RHP User
10 years ago
Sense of entitlementYes I have found this site seems to attract Sociopathic personality types. Extreme sexual fetishes that border on pathological, sex addiction, grandiose sense of self worth & a huge sense of entitlement is common for these types.
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RHP User
10 years ago
Very nicely said! You sound like a man who has respect for women & doesn't simply treat them as sex objects, but more importantly people! PS I think more men should post erotic pics of themselves instead of just womens photos mainly in the adult amateur-pics section. Quoting 'LifeUnscripted' Hanging out here how many times do you see the "I am paying my money why is no one sleeping with me" posts? Men get all excited about all the free pussy they think they are going to get and forget that those "pussies" come bound to real adult people who deserve respect and have their own preferences, boundaries and rules. It is a shock to some of them. What they need to figure out is if you just treat a woman as a person, then things are going to go much better. :) - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'sexyminx66' Yes I have found this site seems to attract Sociopathic personality types. Extreme sexual fetishes that border on pathological, sex addiction, grandiose sense of self worth & a huge sense of entitlement is common for these types. You're mostly spot on.. I think many people come here to boost their ego whether through shagging as many people as possible (usually men not always).. Or get a power trip that they might or probably don't experience in real life, via toying and exploiting others weakness' online (usually women but not always).. Though I dont experience the first scenario as much as you might, I certainly have experienced the other quite often and have learnt to recognise it and move on.. The only thing I disagree with you on. Is the "grandiose sense of self worth". I believe its quite the opposite for those types. I think the internet and this type of dating and introduction maybe leveling the field in both scenarios where people can recognise others unreasonable demands early (if they have the strength to) and carry on before its too late and theyre stuck in a situation.
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madotara69
10 years ago
Quoting 'sexyminx66' Yes I have found this site seems to attract Sociopathic personality types. Extreme sexual fetishes that border on pathological, sex addiction, grandiose sense of self worth & a huge sense of entitlement is common for these types. Dirty fuckers covers it, finally someone is saying some nice things for entitlements, a breath of fresh air sexyminx, Tara is all sixes too, 66 she said is awesome and 666 is even awesome r 6's everywhere but my favourite six is the sex she says like the fesh n' cheps in the kiwi accent. sexymenxsextysex is how it sounds when she reads out loud your handle Mado Mado Tara xx
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Originalbadboy
10 years ago
Damn it I'm out of popcorn. Hold all further posts till I get some more? Anybody else want some? Obbi "Of course life is bizarre, the more bizarre it gets, the more interesting it is. The only way to approach it is to make yourself some popcorn and enjoy the show." - David Gerrold
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RHP User
10 years ago
Pmsl, any more irony and your surname would be Hancock.
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RHP User
10 years ago
I'm coming to this topic a bit later and have not read all 7 pages of responses, so apologies if some of my points have already been made (the dust up on page 6 and 7 was certainly interesting, however) There is a dynamic where some men feel if they've "invested" in a date, that they seem to think that they "deserve" something in return. I'd like to think that this is not the majority of guys ...and if by "invest" they mean writing some messages and chatting, you're better off weeding these assholes out right away. Be happy if they melt down online, so you don't have to meet these pieces of work in real life. But, since this is a lifestyle site, I'm going to have to say that the sense of entitlement for single women and couples is higher. Swingers love unicorns, and if you're one of those rare creatures, you're bound to have your pick of the pack. I've seen this dynamic really mess with a woman's head and make them feel like they set the rules for every encounter. While it's true you should be true to your own rules, any sexual meeting is a mix of give and take. If you're only taking, you've lost the plot. You are entitled to be part of the group, you're not entitled to dictate how the group plays. Couples can be just as bad. Not everyone can decide that they want to fuck just by reading a profile online. We generally need to meet and get to know people we play with. Sometimes it clicks, sometimes it doesn't, you ain't seen nothing like a pissed off couple who, after you've met and decided that the chemistry is not right, flips out and accuses you of wasting their time. Sorry folks, just 'cause we meet and get along doesn't mean we're going to get down and dirty. We've had this happen more than the single guys...
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RHP User
10 years ago
I received a flirt from a man whose profile header says...We all know what we are here for....I doubt this is true,we are all here for different reasons..we have different wants and needs..we are humans not animals on the discovery channel xxFreya
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RHP User
10 years ago
Why shame him because his wants and needs are different to yours. Just move on ?
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RHP User
10 years ago
...and if it is for different reasons, we communicate... If not, then move on... (50zcool)
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RHP User
10 years ago
So agree with you Freya with your last comment.....I always say upfront that I am not looking for a 'quick f@&$?' or a one night stand, then have the male agree with this and meet for coffee or drink then as the conversation roles along he says 'Lets skip the coffee and I will come to you place for some fun'. It's like you are talking to a brick wall what part of 'meet first play latter' don't you understand you moron? It's like they do have a sense of entitlement but there are some lovely gentlemen on this site who do have respect and manners I guess there is always a rotten apple in every basket then it tarnishes things for every other guy.
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RHP User
10 years ago
I think men (speaking as a woman) come to this site for sex, play, to explore and be a bit naughty and fun. They see names like cumfuck, slut, daddysgirl and see naked pictures of women. They assume the girl is ready to go after all her name even says that she is ready right? But what they don't realize is that some women (men too) need to know they are going to be ok, safe, respected. You don't want to get raped or abused. Women put themselves in vulnerable situations and expose themselves to all kinds or men on this site. I have met men for coffee and been spat on, grabbed, groped, hands forced down my pants. I have even slapped men in the face. Their attitude is well your on a sex site. We girls can be sexy sluts, dirty whores and daddys girls to the right man. The ones that have respect and self disciple. Who understand our limits and our person. I am not saying in this post that all men and women are like this at all in anyway.
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RHP User
10 years ago
As a couple we have had the same sort of experience from a femaleWe did the usual. Wink. message. Talk on the phone & meet for drinksWe did not feel a sexual connection to this lady when we met face to face although she was a nice person We received an early morning message about how she felt bad that we were not have sex with her So I guess it's not just men that feel like they have a sense of entitlement.
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RHP User
10 years ago
I think that's a bit harsh, sounds more like disappointment than entitlement.
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'SingleLilly' But what they don't realize is that some women (men too) need to know they are going to be ok, safe, respected. You don't want to get raped or abused. Women put themselves in vulnerable situations and expose themselves to all kinds or men on this site. I have met men for coffee and been spat on, grabbed, groped, hands forced down my pants. I have even slapped men in the face. Their attitude is well your on a sex site. Bloody hell. Well that is real trailer trash behaviour straight off the Jerry Springer show. The way some people act is unbelievable really.
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RHP User
10 years ago
Why don't men understand that to message a woman,one that you have had no contact with before and expect that she will be prepared to leap out the door at six thirty,ain't gonna happen..well not with non ponta eons me xxFreya
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RHP User
10 years ago
Did I just make up a new language 😳..I meant well not with me xxFreya
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RHP User
10 years ago
There are plenty of women out there with a sense of deluded grandeur as well. Don't give me the old 'I get lots of contacts and can't reply to them all rubbish.' There are bad eggs on both sides. So many women on this site whinge about the blokes but I assure you there are a lot of rude women as well. I have met a couple of crackers here who are friends now but there are some I wouldn't cross the road for.
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RHP User
10 years ago
and here I was thinking it was a Latin phrase and was off to google 😝 - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'Freya79' Did I just make up a new language 😳..I meant well not with me xxFreya KIS...I googled this; Francesco I Patrizi - 1547... bonaeeie non t"inFipenbiFee,-i neFFiino ponta inuiilia,Fblo conFiiianiloFi ne lie ... paiupunebe eon-Fca-ebe elle Fi poFFZ Fane ila la namen-.ui ueni'tiene,non ...
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RHP User
10 years ago
The translation is ?😀😀😀xxFreya
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RHP User
10 years ago
Entitlement like. Us, we'd like to see some pics to see if we fancy you. Him, ive sent two blury out of date pics that dont really show anything, i want a root right now or youse can cum meet me sumwere and ill root her in me car. (bogan grammar and speliing is also incredibly arousing) followed by 10 message variations of r youse keen? i sent pics wana meet now Im hard tell me if yr intersted or not sigh!
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RHP User
10 years ago
He wanted to fuck me in hole in road.
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Mischeviouslad
10 years ago
You had a road? Luxxxxxxxuryyyyyyy
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RHP User
10 years ago
A hole in the ground,covered by a tarpaulin..but it was a home to us..Monty Python....surely both men and omen are entitled to a little python 😛😛xxFreys
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Mischeviouslad
10 years ago
We never had a tarpaulin..... We used to have to get out of the lake at six o'clock in the morning, clean the lake, eat a handful of 'ot gravel, work twenty hour day at mill for tuppence a month, come home, and Dad would thrash us to sleep with a broken bottle, if we were lucky!
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RHP User
10 years ago
Why does anybody expect anything. For me as a "modern" free spirited Female I want to say it goes both ways. I never expect a free meal nor a happy ending. What I like is a free conversation a drive to my home a coffee or dinner in my home which I supply, because you as the male have to jump in your car and be prepared to drive maybe 100 or 200 km to my place. Yes it could be I send you on your way without sex and you say no thank you too, but hey we both have been equal in "providing" some sort of comfort for both of us, or do I see that wrongly? I have to say something.....it pisses me off how we complain about on here...we women about men what they don't do, that I think .......why do men not start telling us what we are doing wrong. But hey......I found a nice one and yes sometimes I got idiots on here but 99% of men treated me with utter respect and love and passion. So my question to you women......could it be that you....as you get so many bad messages have or portray yourself in a negative way??? Hmmmm something to ponder. Love to you all. L
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'Mischeviouslad' We never had a tarpaulin..... We used to have to get out of the lake at six o'clock in the morning, clean the lake, eat a handful of 'ot gravel, work twenty hour day at mill for tuppence a month, come home, and Dad would thrash us to sleep with a broken bottle, if we were lucky! Dang you beat me to that !!!!!!
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RHP User
10 years ago
I have only been on here for a few months but haven't experienced this at all. Most of the guys I have met have been very respectful (almost humble!) and we have been honest with each other about what we both want/expect. But then again, I probably do 'weed out' the ones that send me sexual piccies and ask to see my private photos the first or second time we message. I need to have a bit of an idea of their intentions before the coffee ;)
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RHP User
10 years ago
Every persons experience here is different...It surely can't be a bad thing if we share those experiences....who knows it might provide some insight to someone who may then learn something ..have a light bulb moment..Since I joined four years ago I have had so many the Christmas lights would appear dim in comparison xxFreya
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RHP User
10 years ago
I've been on various sites for years and have met some wonderful ladies and had some awesome times (and so have they). But the guys who use those sites often complain that they can't meet anyone. I've always treated prospective partners with respect and as my equal right from the first contact. I've met ladies for coffee, and one even said while having coffee that she had a good time with me but didn't feel a connection and didn't wish to take it any further. And that's cool, it, happens, and I like that kind of honesty. But yeah, with all the guys I've had who contact me complaining, I get your point.
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RHP User
10 years ago
Your attitude on here is refreshing, but you want to share a woman with your son? Maybe a different forum, but howwhatwhywhowhywhy?
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