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Condom or No Condom that is the question!!
July 11 2015
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rupamohan
9 years ago
Many time we see a profile that looks perfect match and then we have to move on just because it says " sometimes or if required" Condom also reduces the real feel.but Condom is must. We have missed many hot profiles just for this condition but can't take risk. There are people who have played without condoms for years and feel it is ok. Not for us.
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RHP User
9 years ago
If it's on it's not on...and that's that! Nothing feels as good as the real thing.
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RHP User
9 years ago
How do tou know your partners are safe?
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RHP User
9 years ago
I think that's only the second time I've seen "Safe sex: Never" on a profile. Kudos for your openness, oversexed, I'm curious to know how often you both get tested?
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rupamohan
9 years ago
My feeling is most only get tested when any symptoms are observed. While this may be acceptable method of risk management for condom users it is very risky for others. Unsafe sex is very common. Go to cr..gslist. It is full of pnp / fill my hole booty call adverts. Safe sex...lol If I have my way I will ban the word safe sex here are replace it with technically correct meaning. Approved fluid barrier use - Never, Always, Only genital to genital
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Taleros
9 years ago
Quoting 'rupamohan' Regular STD testing?? My feeling is most only get tested when any symptoms are observed. Which is not a good way to gauge it since a number of STIs can be asymptomatic, and therefore a person would have no idea anything is wrong until they actually get tested.
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RHP User
9 years ago
Oversexed was just a troll, and now I won't get an answer. Good example of what happens to a troll when they're not fed though.
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RHP User
9 years ago
Condoms give women power.
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Mischeviouslad
9 years ago
Quoting 'Freshpaint' Condoms give women power. Um.... how do you figure that?
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PatchworkGirl
9 years ago
I don't think condoms do that necessarily. The release of the contraceptive pill in the 60's certainly did, as it gave women power over their own fertility in ways that had previously not been possible. But the condom, even if women carry them around for when they are needed, still require the man to wear it. Not much female empowerment there.
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RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'Freshpaint' Condoms give women power. Sex gives women power.
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RHP User
9 years ago
And the fun never stops. Freshpaint you cant say that, don't you know the rules. The emperor's new clothes, what fine latex he wears, one wonders if he knows? I think so, but the empress demands the show. No glove no love she dutifully proclaims. Why? For protection of course, don't you know, even if its in the mind. No glove no love, mostly because she says it must be so... On a side note I learnt a new fun double condom trick on the weekend. Put one on then add lots of lube on top, followed by another condom. greatly reduces the unpleasant feeling when the thing is to tight, in fact if feels great, and to boot, it doubles the protection if you believe that shite. I feel so super safe now, try it guys you will love it.
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RHP User
9 years ago
"No glove no love, mostly because she says it must be so..." Not so blind !
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DynamicCouple36
9 years ago
Freshpaint, maybe the "power" you are talking about is simply perceived power ? The receiving woman insists that a condom is worn by the giving male and makes it clear that if he does not wear a condom, then there will be no sex. The male then may perceive that the woman, by insisting on a "no glove no love" approach, is exercising her "power" over him - putting him in a position where he has to listen to & adhere to her demands .... Is it really power ? Or it is merely her preference, and choice, to engage in safe sex ?
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RHP User
9 years ago
But, men say that too. Using condoms isn't the singular domain of women. "No glove no love, mostly because she/he says it must be so..." A lil bit blind. About 50or so percent blind.
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RHP User
9 years ago
I've been a prior member under a different name for a while and have never taken [art in one of these threads about condoms. MY VIEW I practice safe sex and will wear a condom if, for some reason, there is a BIG HURRY or something that would impede on the 2 days it takes for both to be tested and have results in hand... I don't 'jump' into sex. I need to have at least a connection of some sort, a special feeling for someone before I give that part of myself. Although GREAT FUN and very widely practiced, I think such a thing, if it's important can wait for 2 days. That way there are no doubts, or as little as can be. Condoms don't protect against all things, and they have been known to break (in fact, I read something like a 2% risk if used properly)... That's a big risk given the possible outcome. 1 in 50... I am used to testing having worked in an industry where there was a good chance of regular contact that could be a fight or simply the breaking up of one that carries a risk. So, I was always tested 6 monthly. I have never since had to for 'the sake' of it because I've either been in an exclusive relationship OR begun with a new partner and both of us have been tested so we could be sure of each other's 'status'. I hope, at least, someone sees the reasoning and the wisdom behind my view. It makes sense to me. I suppose it's because I don't find myself in situations where 'spontaneous sex' would occur and if I meet someone, I would want to spend some time with her. At least enough for us both to take the 2 days to be tested.
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QLDtwo4fun
9 years ago
In the first few months of a new relationship and the last few months of a relationship ending.
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windy1968
9 years ago
What's the world teaching our children
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rick181au
9 years ago
A bad thing for us :-(
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RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'Muso17' MY VIEW Condoms don't protect against all things, and they have been known to break (in fact, I read something like a 2% risk if used properly)... That's a big risk given the possible outcome. 1 in 50... I am used to testing having worked in an industry where there was a good chance of regular contact that could be a fight or simply the breaking up of one that carries a risk. So, I was always tested 6 monthly. You give too much credit to condoms. Normal use of condoms have a 80%(*) failure rate. (See wiki search "Condoms", I don't make this up) That is a 1 in 5 risk, a whole order of magnitude greater than you have quoted. So what do you think of your risk now that it is ten time greater than you thought? (*) as the risk is different for each type of STI and different for men and women the 80% is an average for STI's
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OkeyDoke45
9 years ago
G'day all, I am more than willing to wear condoms if requested, but I have found only one woman request I wear one, every other woman has requested I not. The overwhelming opinion I see most people have to them is that they are pretty much a passion-killer. Thankfully, all women I have slept with (and don't think I'm bragging, there's actually not been that many in my life) I have known prior for varying lengths and was fairly confident they would be ''clean'', they know the same about me. With those that I have not known well, it's a risk not to wear a condom but they have been quite specific that they do not want one.
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RHP User
9 years ago
Condoms for penetration are a must for us. The male doesn't have to wear one, there are female condoms out there. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'Blindman67' Quoting 'Muso17' MY VIEW Condoms don't protect against all things, and they have been known to break (in fact, I read something like a 2% risk if used properly)... That's a big risk given the possible outcome. 1 in 50... I am used to testing having worked in an industry where there was a good chance of regular contact that could be a fight or simply the breaking up of one that carries a risk. So, I was always tested 6 monthly. You give too much credit to condoms. Normal use of condoms have a 80%(*) failure rate. (See wiki search "Condoms", I don't make this up) That is a 1 in 5 risk, a whole order of magnitude greater than you have quoted. So what do you think of your risk now that it is ten time greater than you thought? (*) as the risk is different for each type of STI and different for men and women the 80% is an average for STI's Hi Blindman... Thanks for that interesting info. I got the figure from a book (those things people don't read as often as they used to...LOL). It as written in 1988, so may well be the info from a study that was done 'God knows when and how they controlled it... The risk you quote, which I can only accept as far more up to date, only goes to show that my preferred wait for a couple of days is a FAR better way to go... (Obviously not always possible or desirable, so I suppose a condom is better than nothing... Thanks mate.
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Dork_Doggler
9 years ago
Quoting 'Abbie95' Oh! Please! Cover your willie before you get silly! Besides, I can put a condom on with my mouth, so there is really no "flow interruption" you speak of. 😉 - Posted from rhpmobile Prove it..Ha! I completely agree with Abbie95. because she is hot, sexy, and interesting!!!! I shall not be swayed on this....it really gets my goat!!!! It is crazy...How cannot one not agree to disagree that concurring upon not forming a disresolution relating to the unrelated diaspora of unirregular features not present nor not present either, encapsulating the vast minority of the overarching underwhelmed non EXISTENT responses not occurring in the structured haphazard nature of the differing sameness the visionary blind observations that did not not occur found through rigorous inaction producing absolute unfounded certainty and unassuredness that doubt in proving nothing within reasonable doubt was doubtful in the most, possibly even in the most, but yet was most likely in the most, and projecting these ficts (like facts, just made up like facts are) further ahead into the past, nothing was not unresolved at all, but left to remain exactly as different as they originally weren't after completely not becoming something totally different to their original sameness, in that they differed similarly by not differing at all except for where they differed. The Earth shattering impact caused by such humungously infinitesimal non striking results shan't not resonate through the vacuum of space, throughout the partial eternal entirety of an unset finite period of timelessness. Uuummmm...so, I guess it speaks for itself but essentially, single males may disregard the condom debate, as who are you kidding mate, nobody speaks to you, all others should irrefutably triple skin up after your morning shower each day in case you unfortunately sleep with one from South of the river.QEDOkay, so if everybody pairs off...Abbie95, we're in same post so....sweet, us two. Grab a carton of condoms to each pair....What's that?....XXXXXL is largest they've got?....Well obviously they'll never fit...Nah, it's okay! We'll just pretend we've got them. Righto...now let's all get behind Abbie95's idea and just damn well practice this over and over until we get it right!
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lickyousilly181
9 years ago
I see so far using a condom ( Franga, Raincoat, Tarp ) is the order of the day, So does that mean from Wo to Blow or just for intercourse? I'm sure we all know a hell of a lot of fun happens prior to actual genital penetration so whereis the line drawn? Its Ok to give head etc ?????????????????
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RHP User
9 years ago
So many of people from what I am reading and hearing, are being a little complacent with their attitudes towards HIV. Perhaps it is time to bring back the Grim Reaper Ads. We know that HIV is spread mainly through male to male sex, but in the last year in Australia that has only accounted for just over 80% of newly diagnosed HIV cases. Intravenous drug use is certainly another avenue, but that only counts for a few percent which leaves, you guessed it, the rest of newly diagnosed cases of HIV, found in the hetro world. Sadly we have a friend, who has just found out that he has AIDS, and there is little he can do, to halt its progress. He of course most likely contracted it through unprotected hetro sex in the rare circumstances he was ever lucky! If our mate thought he was safe from risk, then perhaps you should ask yourself the question, 'It is worth forgoing a condom for a small window of pleasure?'
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RHP User
9 years ago
I prefer without but not at the expense of safety. A few moments of pleasure is not worth a lifetime of pain.
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Beachandlove
9 years ago
Condom is a must for us for penetration and oral sex. Too much risk for a litle extra pleasure ...
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Enjoylifealways
9 years ago
I prefer with a condom on even if it is my hubby
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RHP User
9 years ago
I would rather no condom as it feels amazing but condom is a must for me as I would rather no catch anything they only way I would do no condom with a playmate/s if they bring a copy of medical forms to prove they are clean.. I only have one vagina and I want to keep it clean for the rest of my life(:
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RHP User
9 years ago
It's always good to be safe. As one poster said though, unfortunately you get to that exciting point of the night and you have to stop to put one on... :P
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RHP User
9 years ago
Very simple: Ask the other person their preferences while stating yours. Yes, I prefer bareback but only when safety is guaranteed. I get checked in between partners because I'm not trying to fuck someone new every week. This ensures my safety. If I come across anyone who employs a similar practice, great! Add in some birth control and we're set. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
9 years ago
Depends on who it's with. I think that they are must unless you know the person's history. I've always used them other than my ex-wife and a FWB that I had for a while. Having said that, the FWB and I never used them even from the start. Something about both of us not having had any for over a year at the time overrode that thought... Otherwise there have been others that almost got to the stage of not using them but fizzled out.
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RHP User
9 years ago
After a long term relationship where they were not used at all, I would be a little nervous going with someone new and not rolling one on. I don't consider it a passion killer, if you both know how to do, its not like you need to stop everything and concentrate on putting on a Condom, continue with passionate kissing while you do it, my favorite many years ago was to put it on while I was going down on my partner, making us both 'ready' to go so to speak. I was even lucky enough many many years ago to spend some time with a woman who could slip it on while she was going down on me without breaking her rythem at all. In today's world they really are a must, so work with them and have fun. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
9 years ago
no question!
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RHP User
9 years ago
Majority of sti's are curable. If you are worried maybe you're choosing the wrong partner. In saying that yes to condoms for piece of mind :). P.s buy large!
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RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'jota11' Condom is a must for us for penetration and oral sex. Too much risk for a litle extra pleasure ... So how is a condom going to protect me while licking your pussy ?
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RHP User
9 years ago
Condoms!
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RHP User
9 years ago
I prefer without, feels better. But there has to be a level of trust.
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RHP User
9 years ago
My thoughts exactly and there's no way I'd want a yummy dick in my mouth with a condom on?? Not a chance, I want to feel the skin on my lips, love it really sloppy and wet, rub it all over my face, and surely the guy wouldn't enjoy that, seriously? Fuck it, if I catch something doing this, I'll die happy 😁
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RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting '50wetfigs' Quoting 'jota11' Condom is a must for us for penetration and oral sex. Too much risk for a litle extra pleasure ... So how is a condom going to protect me while licking your pussy ? roll it down your tongue ;) turn it inside out first and you can take advantage of the flavoured ones :-p
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JValenz91
9 years ago
Are a must. While I'm new to sex, i will always bring a condom with me even if I'm not asked. While a condom does make me lose sensitivity, I will still wear one, unless I've know the woman I'm with for a very long time and our play time has turned into a long-term relationship, but on this site I don't think there will be many looking for that in the long term.
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RHP User
9 years ago
What i preffer and what i do are two very different things. I think the majority of people prefer any sexual contact with out a condom... but in this day and age it's better to be safe than sorry. By saying that, im suggesting that people here would knowing spread STIs... but my safety comes first. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
9 years ago
*im not suggesting that the people here would knowingly spread STIs
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RHP User
9 years ago
Discuss the matter with the other person/party first. As a minimum I'd like to see some proof that they were clean and of course I would demonstrate the same. Remember people - it's a crime to transmit diseases knowingly. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
9 years ago
for both parties to be at ease. The only eexception is being in a long term relationship. The only problem I have found is being on the larger scale downstairs its not always possible to find comdoms that fit. - Posted from rhpmobile
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MrMechanic
9 years ago
Quoting 'playwell9' for both parties to be at ease. The only eexception is being in a long term relationship. The only problem I have found is being on the larger scale downstairs its not always possible to find comdoms that fit. - Posted from rhpmobile I know what you meanYou cant thrust all the way in because it doesn't go on all the way and so they don't get the whole length and you have to short shaft a bit. They also choke the shaft and headAnd cum bubble in the end is too small so the cum fills it and shoots up the inside of the condom sides which is too short anyway making it slippery inside and I end up with one hand down there trying to hold the thing on so I don't loose it in them and cans keep going for a bit longer. Only place I can get bigger ones if the 7-11 or servo in the counter they have those ribbed ones that are for bigger lads and the silly wavy ribs straighten out anyway once you put them on so they become a plain one anyway.They go all the way on and are wider so no choking and the cum bubble is much larger to catch a big load he load without it going up the inside of the condom and making it slippery. Its those damn ones they sell in chemist shops I hate and almost every women buys them.I went into one and asked if they could stock the large ones I checked out online from the maker of the ones they sell in the blue box and she said (blushing heavily) they would have to order them, no deal.
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scubaboy69
9 years ago
Sorry guys, you're wrong to condemn people who reasonably and consensually bareback with people who're not "high risk". How many women on here show their STI test results to every guy that goes down on them? None of you? I didn't think so. Apparently the risk to men of contracting an STI from women really doesn't matter at all. So, shouldn't we have an epidemic of STI from men going down on women on RHP? What? We don't? Then perhaps the incidence of STI amongst posters on this forum isn't the "20 out of 27 of you" that one person on here suggested. How about we bring some reliable statistics into this discussion before dragging out the Grim Reaper and some bowling balls. Oh, and by the way, there is a cure for HSV-2 about to be announced in the next few weeks and for HPV about a year later. It won't be on the pharmacy shelves for another couple of years but just Google "Admedus", "HSV-2 trial" and "Prof Ian Frazer". There's a Nobel with his name on it coming his way soon and a cure for women with cervical cancer and for HSV-2 just might have something to do with it. Choose your partners carefully, build the friendships and test for integrity. Honest lovers make for the best lovers. I bareback with trusted friends and use condoms with strangers and on request. This year is my 20th anniversary of non-vanilla sexcapades. Full battery of tests periodically over the whole 20 years on too many occasions to count. My results didn't come back "negative", they came back "never exposed". All those women and men I've directly and indirectly sucked, fucked and fingered and not one of them exposed me to an STI. Well done to all of the fear-mongers on here for trying to condemn people for making reasoned consensual choices about whether to wear condoms or not. The Grim Reaper ads appeared on television in my final years of High School and caused more sexual anxiety and sexual disfunction to my group of teenagers in that generation that any of you will ever know. A bucket-load of people I knew of that age still to this day are battling to deal with it, having never taking a step out of vanilla without irrational disabling fear. Anyone notice the epidemic of Generalised Anxiety Disorder and other mental illness in Australia lately? Maybe if people spent a little bit more time fucking and not fearing, we'd all be a lot happier and healthier in this country. Try having a conversation with your GP about who the high-risk groups are in your town and maybe, just maybe, try avoiding having sex with them. It helps. So does vaccination as one person on here said, including Gardasil for men. Ease back everyone, get the facts from your GP and take a course in statistics and probability. If you want to stay psychologically and physically healthy, then sex needs to be enjoyed, not condemned. Isn't that why we're here?
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RHP User
9 years ago
Love your post but for one thing....GP's. GP's are people too and fallible, some don't keep up with the latest and some even have religious agendas, believe it or not. In my experience the best source of information in this topic is family planning clinics.
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RHP User
9 years ago
Others aren't "wrong" they just don't share your opinion.
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Haleakala
9 years ago
Bit early to be saying there is a cure for HSV, from the companies website its only at phase1 trials. Phase 1 is simply safety studys on very small numbers of healthy patients to see what the safe dosages are its not yet been shown to work on people with the virus and the side effects are not yet determined. Hopefully it does progress though, I've got a friend who contracted HSV from a partner that knew he had it but didn't tell her
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scubaboy69
9 years ago
The HPV trial is in Phase 1. The HSV-2 trial is proof-of-concept for both and in Phase 2B at full enrolment (40 patients), testing for efficacy. Interim results due now. Full results before June. ASX announcements provide more detail. Admedus (ASX: AHZ) owns 66% of the vaccine and is sponsoring the trial. Being a vaccine, it's not a blinded trial so it would have been stopped by now to reduce costs to Admedus if it didn't have an effect. No guarantees and I might be wrong, but my money's on it's efficacy. Especially given that it's Prof Ian Frazer's work. But then, even if the results are good, it'll be a longer wait before it's approved and in the pharmacy. Keep the faith if anyone does have HSV-2, this one may work where many others have failed before in trials.
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Haleakala
9 years ago
do you have any links to details of the trials? I'm reading about on medical trials now and would be interesting to cross reference the two.
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scubaboy69
9 years ago
It's all in the past ASX announcements but don't expect too much information, it's all commercial-in-confidence. There should be an announcement for the interim results in the next few weeks so wait for that one. GSK had two failed vaccine trials for HSV. They spent $2.5Bn and came very close to a prophylactic vaccine for HSV-1 using the same polynucleotide approach as Prof Ian Frazer is using, but failed. The Admedus Immunotherapies HSV-2 therapeutic vaccine adds two techniques together, ubiquitin for a robust T-cell response and codon modification for neutralising antibodies. 100% effective in clearing mice of HSV-2 but that's no guarantee of success in humans. This one is riding purely on Prof Ian Frazer's reputation as an authority in that field of research. Best of luck for your friend
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scubaboy69
9 years ago
You know we can't post links in the forums
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Haleakala
9 years ago
But with the info you've provided I'm sure Google will come up with more than the Amedus website. - Posted from rhpmobile
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daniel05
9 years ago
i think if you're seeing the girl without is good. sometimes it is a passion killer as mentioned. but ladies can get things inserted which can prevent surprises. i'm sure you know what i mean.
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RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'Summer_solstice' Quoting 'scubaboy69' You know we can't post links in the forums Because RHP cannot take responsibility for any links that are dodgy (leading to spam pages/pages with viruses, whatever). I suspect that rule is more to do with people posting email addresses or other ways to be contacted without paying a membership fee. RHP would be a horrible amount of extra work to create a spam bot for, considering the tiny ROI you'd get. That's the one strength of their rego and forum system being created from scratch - you can't leverage a phpbb, vbulletin or dotnetnuke bot.
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scubaboy69
9 years ago
Latest announcement from Admedus says that they're still waiting for the interim results of the HSV-2 therapeutic trial so we'll have to wait a few weeks longer to find out if it works. It's a blinded Phase 2A trial and not a Phase 2B trial. My mistake.
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