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Dishonesty on this site
November 17 2014
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RHP User
10 years ago
What you have to realise is people lie. Also add into that equation that it is very easy to lie when hiding behind a keyboard. If you realise this, use it to your advantage - meet them face to face before taking it to the next level whilst having a coffee or a drink. Ask questions and be strategic with how you converse to them. I.e. search for lies. First sign of dishonesty - politely tell them you had a great chat but are not interested in taking it further. You don't have to call them out - just be smart about it. I've been tricked a few times too.
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Mischeviouslad
10 years ago
I believe you've answered your own question with the following comment..... Lucky for me I have an amazing intuition and 9 times out of 10 I smell a rat a mile off. A well placed rat trap works wonders If someone is less than honest to me, and I missed that (generally, like you, I don't) ... but I'd look at my screening process and give it a tweak before choosing to meet them. Because Im in no hurry, and as HP keeps telling me.... Im totally worth it. DG
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RHP User
10 years ago
Even a face to face on skype can weed out a lot of time wasters and bullshitters before you get stood up at a first meet.
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'Cognescenti' What you have to realise is people lie. Also add into that equation that it is very easy to lie when hiding behind a keyboard. If you realise this, use it to your advantage - meet them face to face before taking it to the next level whilst having a coffee or a drink. Ask questions and be strategic with how you converse to them. I.e. search for lies. First sign of dishonesty - politely tell them you had a great chat but are not interested in taking it further. You don't have to call them out - just be smart about it. I've been tricked a few times too. your really Hung
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RHP User
10 years ago
I always consider that it's my responsibility to decide if I do or don't believe someone. Unless the person is in my inner circle, I don't believe they have any obligation to be honest with me. I hope they will, but I don't assume they will. I also trust my instincts and back those up with various small questions and tests (rat traps, as DG said) to make the best informed decision I can. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
10 years ago
because they want you to set their pants on fire:-) xxFreya
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RHP User
10 years ago
I would love to say I am always honest, but that would be dishonest. Sometimes the truth is too complicated to explain and some things I prefer to keep private. I always lie about my age online, I am actually a few months younger than I say I am, but that's only for security reasons. Sometimes I have lied about being interested, i may say I am not interested in taking things further, while I am, but have worked out that in the long term its not going to work. I lie about knowing that you are lying. I did lie about my pecker's size as i had never actually measured it, now I know so don't need to lie. Its the intent behind the lie that is the real issues. To lie for selfish, exploratory, or predatory reasons is when you become morally corrupt. I put 100% trust in my own instincts though they are not 100% correct they do get better results than taking everything at face value. I accept lies about age, looks, relationships, dick size, height, weight, enjoyment, or not, and what ever else that does not directly effect me, or that I don't care about. There are some things I prefer not to know and I will not ask, but if brought up and you lie, I must stay true to my self and say with a lie "Nice to meet you,see ya another time." like never, not going to happen. There are certain things that I will not accept a lie about, such as your sexual health, or when last you got tested, if ever, have you been over seas for sex. I never accept just a yes or no, I will ask details and will be looking for the tell tail signs and error on the side of caution. So if I am all ready to get it on, and suddenly turn cold and cant wait to leave. Its most likely because you have crossed the line and lied about something that is a danger to me.
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RHP User
10 years ago
I see no point in lying now. I use to about my age as i was always getting called out for not being in my 40s ( only time I added the years on was to get into clubs quite a few years ago) I'm still young at heart and have been told I don't act my age, well so be it. So back to the point lying is to much work having to keep track of every little detail. I may cut down my target audience with having a truthful direct profile but in the long run I'll hopefully get what I'm looking for without the worry of trying to remember who I am. Mike. - Posted from rhpmobile
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inspirit
10 years ago
People lie = Both men and woman - I have found though in this recent year there seems to be even more lies.
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RHP User
10 years ago
that I have been told after meeting a man is "Yes, I'd like to see you again". Then, I either receive an email contradicting this statement or the man does not email at all. This has only happened twice, so far. To "save" my own "hurt" feelings, I'd like to believe that this was really the reason why the men "lied" : Quoting Blindman67 " Sometimes I have lied about being interested, i may say I am not interested in taking things further, while I am, but have worked out that in the long term its not going to work." It's better for me to take this approach. Amy
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RHP User
10 years ago
the absolute fuck out of me... end of rant.
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6exxy
10 years ago
but it would be nice if you did update your page with your deal breakers as that may help. The same as you are making decisions based on information so are they. Your age group of 18 - 99 is very wide but do you really want a 75 year old guy contacting you? Yes single when married and other things are just a pain. Cheer up a good one will come along soon.
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RHP User
10 years ago
is fake profiles and ppl who love to chat and get your pics, but never meet. When you try to set a meet they accept but mever show. Verry annoying! Why not just say they want a naughty chat buddy? Jeez - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
10 years ago
Bother with the lies ! If a genuine connection will be caught out anyway! A lot of people can obviously have a motive of sex ,don't care what they say to get there! Real connections do get thru all the bullshit in the end xxx
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RHP User
10 years ago
Harmless white lies aside, maliciously deceiving another goes against my ethics. I'm aware that, like most, I haven't been gifted with nor sculpted myself into above average looks..but looks aren't everything. I'm confident enough in my charm and intelligence to be honest with all I meet.
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RHP User
10 years ago
This is becoming more of a feminist 'I hate all guys' site rather than an adult dating site.....
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RHP User
10 years ago
This is no different to going to a pub or club where the guy will lie to get you home into bed for the evening. Can't see why online when the person can create and portray a fantasy that it would be any different. Though I guess the difference is that online there's no non-verbal queues to let your instincts go to work. You can only trust the words, and we know how easy it's to write a fictional story. For me, it's pretty simple. After a few messages and exchange of pics I organise to meet somewhere publicly for a drink. There's no obligation and in 5 minutes you can suss out the person that online chatting could not ever achieve. Basically you can't sit back without putting your hat in the ring and expect that people will come to you. Gotta take some risks for rewards.
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RHP User
10 years ago
Plus if they're not willing to spend 30 minutes over a drink to get to know each other... they're certainly not worth even a minute in my bed :)
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RHP User
10 years ago
People lie....yep....usually to protect their own interests. But....can we really blame them?? Success for many - whatever the situation - is invested into and hinged to their self esteem. When they win they feel awesome, when they lose they feel angered and frustrated, so it's hardly an incentive to accept loss or rejection in this instance. So they lie to win. Pity someone hasn't told them it's not a competition yet.... :) - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
10 years ago
Plus, the whole honeymoon period is a bit of a lie to put our best foot forward. To illustrate my point. I'm 6 foot 6. I'm well built, think fireman calendar. I'm over above average intelligence. I can waltz. I'm a published author. I own my own house. I prefer wine to beer. I like the occasional chick flick. I used to work Investment Banking. I'm not in a relationship. Personality is as important to me as looks. One of the preceeding is a lie, can you pick it?
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'perth_metro' This is becoming more of a feminist 'I hate all guys' site rather than an adult dating site..... She did ask for the opinion of both sexes, not just a woman's perspective, but she can only give it from hers which is obviously about men. Why don't you try and answer the question instead of slamming it as a feminist rant like what was asked?
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RHP User
10 years ago
Suuuuuure you can waltz ;) - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
10 years ago
I can see why it seems like that sometimes. I'd love to read more perspectives from men, but women just seem to post more often. New threads and commenting on threads. Isn't there something about women needing to use more words in a day than men do ;) Still, just because women are posting more often than men, doesn't make the posts by women incorrect. Do you read them? Are the women speaking from their own direct, personal experiences? I think you'll find they are, in which case the posts are not feminist and man-hating. They're simply the experience of the poster. If you want to balance the perspectives, why not just answer the question in the OP? - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
10 years ago
So can I ask from a female to a male, why do some men, even though they are married, why do they go on single dating sites, if he is satisfied at home and has a loving and loyal wife. is it a thrill thing, is it a ego booster, I'm just curious, is all
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'ralf74' Quoting 'perth_metro' This is becoming more of a feminist 'I hate all guys' site rather than an adult dating site..... She did ask for the opinion of both sexes, not just a woman's perspective, but she can only give it from hers which is obviously about men. Why don't you try and answer the question instead of slamming it as a feminist rant like what was asked? What my comment got to do with whether i'm getting 'laid' or not? every second or third topic on this forum i see at least one person (female) slamming how guys are on here ...god for bid any woman were on here behind their husbands back and being dishonest... Im sure you have posted a comment on a topic without directly answering the question from the OP.... i should probably stop before i get blasted by every woman and their dog on here...
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RHP User
10 years ago
He's still young, he hasn't had the experience yet to learn temperance. Further, unless his profile pic is photoshopped, he's juiced up and aggressive and wants to be heard without having to listen. Have patience. Myjourney, as much as you dislike a dishonest approach, there is no way it will ever change. Men and women are on RHP, for the most part, to hook up. Considering the tremendous disparity in the numbers of men to women, men especially have a hard time getting noticed. So they do what they can to improve their chances by not advertising aspects of their lives that many women see as "deal breakers". The best advice I can offer is to take your time. I know this means wasting time but it's always the best idea. Even with those who have been completely honest in describing themselves there may be other negative traits to their personalities that would also become deal breakers but may not be immediately obvious. Good luck.
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RHP User
10 years ago
Why do people lie? Many reasons and some could be because they are lying to themselves. I guess the older you are, the more you know yourself. Alas, sometimes I forget and still think I can do the things I could 10 years ago. I try my best not to lie. If I shouldn't answer, I try and keep quite. I have got into trouble for being too truthful at times but I can sleep soundly at night. I guess, the best thing is to tell the truth, when it is beneficial for the person and at the right time. Unfortunately, a lot of us find it easier to just tell a lie, including that white lie. Also, we like to give our opinions even when no one wants or needs to hear them (just like this message over here). This is the age of self publication & self advertising. Perhaps that is why they want to present a persona that they wish they were rather than what they are.
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RHP User
10 years ago
The answer you re looking for is he is not satisfied at home. Guess there is trouble in paradise. Quoting 'secrethussy' So can I ask from a female to a male, why do some men, even though they are married, why do they go on single dating sites, if he is satisfied at home and has a loving and loyal wife. is it a thrill thing, is it a ego booster, I'm just curious, is all
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RHP User
10 years ago
People will dance around the truth and say what they feel they need to say to achieve the best out come (much like a job interview) I'm an open book and say it the way I feel at any given time (always with due respect) it's become clearer as I get older people will believe a lie over honesty most times... I still refuse to bull shit just to get the job or knickers off that I desire :)) stay true to your self and the rest shall fall into place :)
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RHP User
10 years ago
Why do 40yo women need to ask this question ? Your on Redhotpie, I Know you are not that naive. Does it make you feel all pure and innocent or something ? Perhaps it's a reason to wear the white wedding dress as you type out your outraged and pious dissertation on the evils of men. It's almost funny.
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Mischeviouslad
10 years ago
Have an extra dose of bitters in your Lemon/lime... 50oz?!!! lol
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RHP User
10 years ago
It is just a casual observation that general grils don't call men guys but there are always exceptions to every rule. What would I know?
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'jensman1903' unless his profile pic is photoshopped, he's juiced up and aggressive and wants to be heard without having to listen. Really Jman, that's just not cool. About lying, I think people have three reasons for doing so: 1. To get what they want (quicker and easier)2. To avoid getting into trouble 3. To get out of trouble. (Ok, maybe there's a number 4: Making someone else feel better, though cynical me believes that may be a cross between 1 and 2.) Liars can be found anywhere, it's up to us to tell the lies from the truth and to decide what we will or will not tolerate.
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting '50zcool' Why do 40yo women need to ask this question ? Your on Redhotpie, I Know you are not that naive. Does it make you feel all pure and innocent or something ? Perhaps it's a reason to wear the white wedding dress as you type out your outraged and pious dissertation on the evils of men. It's almost funny. 'accept it' because well, it is just RHP? Let's turn a blind eye to it, because I am not worth being honest with. If you start lying to me now and I accept it then I can only assume it is going to get worse as you get away with each lie. If a woman you had sex with didn't disclose she had an STI, would you accept that? It is only RHP afterall, it is ok to lie in here because people aren't naive at all. Bet you will be laughing your little blistered dick all the way to the doctors because it is almost that funny.
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'perth_metro' Quoting 'ralf74' Quoting 'perth_metro' This is becoming more of a feminist 'I hate all guys' site rather than an adult dating site..... She did ask for the opinion of both sexes, not just a woman's perspective, but she can only give it from hers which is obviously about men. Why don't you try and answer the question instead of slamming it as a feminist rant like what was asked? What my comment got to do with whether i'm getting 'laid' or not? every second or third topic on this forum i see at least one person (female) slamming how guys are on here ...god for bid any woman were on here behind their husbands back and being dishonest... Im sure you have posted a comment on a topic without directly answering the question from the OP.... i should probably stop before i get blasted by every woman and their dog on here... and start your own thread. I am sure there are plenty of things that us women do to piss you guys off so even the play field then. But you won't because you would rather piss and moan about women speaking out about what affects us than what you can actually do to help us understand what you go through.
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RHP User
10 years ago
would say you know whether someone is telling the truth. It all depends on whether you are listening or perhaps even asking the right questions. Do I expect honesty from people. Yes. Do I expect them to tell me everything. No, after all, we are two total strangers just meeting for the first time. I take people at face value but do as Reagan said - Trust but verify. Seems like you are doing that OP, so good on you.
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RHP User
10 years ago
Start your own thread, a few of us keep saying that the topics about these issues are usually about men because they are mainly written by women. Do something about it.
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RHP User
10 years ago
I am utterly over some men (and women) on here yelling 'man bashing!!' and 'women do bad stuff too you know!!' every time a woman posts about a negative experience she has had with a man / men. Newsflash - most women on here are interacting with men - whether online and / or in person - so that is what they know. If they are using their personal experience to generalise and say that all men are assholes, then that is a problem. But most of the time that is not what is happening and as in this case the OP welcomes comments from men as well as women about their own experiences. Seems like we need to add a disclaimer to every post like this: "Please note that these opinions are sourced solely from my own personal experiences with some men, and I fully and explicitly recognise that #notallmen will engage in this behaviour and I do not intend this post to apply to every man in the world. Furthermore, yes I am very aware of the fact that women can also behave badly but unfortunately I do not have the personal anecdotal evidence of such behaviour to include in this post.".
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On_Safari
10 years ago
What she said x
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RHP User
10 years ago
Copied and saved.
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RHP User
10 years ago
Regardless of how horny or keen you are, I truly think that an initial contact in a non sexual setting, to be able to talk, get to know each other and see, face to face, if things stack up.At least then, if you don't feel 'quite right' you have the option of walking away.I prefer to meet first at a cafe, so at least I get to grab a good bite to eat if things don't work out..
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RHP User
10 years ago
I agree with the doubters. Better to assume people are lying. Humans just like comfort and safety and being honest just does not get that. People just don't want to take the time and put in the effort anymore. Its all about instant gratification. Ive been lied to so much over recent times that pointing to that door IS the best option.
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Blondini007
10 years ago
Picture this: you start chatting to a guy who you thnk is 'über good looking', he's the CEO of a company and had an MBA so is reasonably intelligent at least in regards to IQ. After three weeks of talking, he tells you he loves you (and you respond in kind - lying because how can you love someone you haven't even met and don't know). So you met and spend a few delightful hours involving oral sex in the car which is exciting. You plan your next meet, texts and calls are flying thick and fast and the heat is on..you both love sex snd are open to all possibilities, BMW's; same star sign, good communication, etc. you get taken in by his salesman spiel, lets leave our partners and run away, lol, then you tell him my BFF lives near you and he says Wow can I meet her maybe we can run around the lake together and I can learn more about you. As im so obsessed by you. My waking moment and everything in beteern is of you and I've waited all my life to meet someone like you (blah, blah). So is she on KIK? Yes I say..so he starts a dialogue with her., and then she tells me he's asking questions 'like what makes you tick?', and I say to him I think those questions are somewhat awkward I think you should desist. He says if that's what you want fine. He doesnt of course and then she try's to phone me to say he's a player...he hadn't even met her and he's short - 5ft7inches and my friend is 5ft11inches..and he's telling her he's attracted to her and they can be discreet behind my back., she sadly shows me all the texts and yes maybe she had been flirty but she was very honest about what she wanted. Not him..so I've learnt my lesson big time - I could have developed feelings but are so pleased I was saved by my friend. This guy is a player and loves the adulation, I feel he doesn't love himself so certainly can't live anyone else and will never be satisfied with his partner or anyone else - he just loves reeling them in. But I'm so happy I found out..I've moved in very quickly with thanks to other lovely guys on RHP.
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RHP User
10 years ago
That is the best and safest way to meet. I thought that was a given though as it is better be safe than sorry. I always meet in public places, be it a cafe, restaurant, social dance, convention, festival, etc. I also bring a book along in case they decide not to show up. Quoting 'Craigihe' Regardless of how horny or keen you are, I truly think that an initial contact in a non sexual setting, to be able to talk, get to know each other and see, face to face, if things stack up.At least then, if you don't feel 'quite right' you have the option of walking away.I prefer to meet first at a cafe, so at least I get to grab a good bite to eat if things don't work out..
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RHP User
10 years ago
lets be honest with ourselves....does it really matter if your only meeting someone for sex?if you are looking for a long term relationship then honesty does become an issue otherwise enjoy the three plus minutes of pleasure with the other somebody.
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'Meander'About lying, I think people have three reasons for doing so: 1. To get what they want (quicker and easier)2. To avoid getting into trouble 3. To get out of trouble. (Ok, maybe there's a number 4: Making someone else feel better, though cynical me believes that may be a cross between 1 and 2.) You miss one. 4. ........ 5. The compulsive liar. They, despite the trouble it causes, just have to lie every time they open their mouth, they just can not stop.
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loveoutdoors
10 years ago
I also notice that the ones on forums are getting less action than others :-/ Just an observation, don't shoot me!!! Men are the hunter, the women are the prey In today's society the reverse is seen more! You want something, you go for it, all of us will lie a bit to get what we want! Let's not deny that one! The bigger the ego or facade, the more lying! Just our opinion :-)
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RHP User
10 years ago
So for being someone that basically doesn't lie because i don't give a crap if people believe what i have to say or not - it seemingly comes with having no friends & you might say being straight up has it's price but im not complaining about that. Rather it's just the comment of a single minority.....
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RHP User
10 years ago
Lol that made me laugh.... - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
10 years ago
Isn't there something about women needing to use more words in a day than men do ;) My husband tells me that if I can't let out my 100,000 words daily limit, that I will "blow up" !!! Yes, I can be quite a "talker" at times.But it hasn't hindered my husband from loving me. Or deterred other men who are genuinely "interested" in me. Amy
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RHP User
10 years ago
I do get genuine honesty from most of my potential RHP meets. I think that is because I try to choose them carefully. Only once, was there ever any uncertainty. Amy
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RHP User
10 years ago
with Craigihe. That is what I always do !!! Amy
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RHP User
10 years ago
With sites like RHP, where we can be rather specific about what we are after without real fear of ridicule or holier than thou type judgement, why would people feel that they need to 'embellish' the reality or outright deceive people?As I perceive the idea of sites like this, we put it out there, say what we want, can be clear about what we don't and then try our luck.Just seems that here, of all places is somewhere that lying seems rather stupid
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RHP User
10 years ago
To be a good liar you need a good memory, to which I haven't got lol - honesty is so much easier you don't have to think on your feet ☺you can just roll with the flow. - Posted from rhpmobile
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abcplus1
10 years ago
It's human nature. We get it often from females as well. Doesn't stop us from searching for genuine people, just makes us a little jaded and hardened........ unfortunately.
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fortands
10 years ago
The world is dominated by liars. Countries are governed by seasoned liars. We don't get so far into anyone's personal space to worry about lies and pretence. If you correspond and we 'seem' compatible the rest is what happens in the flesh, so to speak! We're not overly concerned with how you choose to represent yourself wether that is through truths or a stream of total bollocks. Clean, decent humans with a good sense of humour are more than welcome to get in touch! Mr T - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'ralf74' Quoting '50zcool' Why do 40yo women need to ask this question ? Your on Redhotpie, I Know you are not that naive. Does it make you feel all pure and innocent or something ? Perhaps it's a reason to wear the white wedding dress as you type out your outraged and pious dissertation on the evils of men. It's almost funny. 'accept it' because well, it is just RHP? Let's turn a blind eye to it, because I am not worth being honest with. If you start lying to me now and I accept it then I can only assume it is going to get worse as you get away with each lie. If a woman you had sex with didn't disclose she had an STI, would you accept that? It is only RHP afterall, it is ok to lie in here because people aren't naive at all. Bet you will be laughing your little blistered dick all the way to the doctors because it is almost that funny. Dearest Ralph (and your likes) do you seriously think I condone dishonesty ? Seriously ? No I don't, and I also don't believe this Peter Pan shock horror naivety that it exists on RHP. Get Real. Tip; if a boy tells you he is a fighter pilot or a brain surgeon the chances are pretty good he's not being honest.
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RHP User
10 years ago
We can't stand the habit, however we do say it more politely than that on our profile. Mrs LTL has an extremely sensitive nose so can pick a smokers house before even entering it, her nose will start to run or she will start sneezing in company with cigarette smoke. SO WHY DO PEOPLE LIE ABOUT THIS ON THEIR PROFILES?? We just don't get it. Are smokers taste buds so damaged that they don't realise that when a non smoker kisses them it's like kissing an ashtray? Unfortunately Mrs reacts so badly her mouth and lips start to tingle and go numb!!! That unfortunately is a real mood killer no matter how nice the company is. Four times people have tried to deceive us to no avail (usually we call people on it, the last time we didn't). Then what do you say- we had a really nice time but come on, really??? You think you can get away with not divulging you're a smoker when we say VERY CLEARLY that we are not looking for smokers? Are they so naive that these people don't think they will be discovered? For everyone's sake if you are a smoker be honest about it- it will not end well for you in the end if you are deceitful about it!! YUCK!! - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
10 years ago
A common trend amongst RHP... For every male on here lying about there maritial status there is a woman on here doing just the same. Seems a common trend on here that the women seeking extra outside their marriage without their husband knowing is A O K. A guy does it and he is ridiculed by the masses. Go figure? Whats the difference? You read so many profile. "No married or attached men" then you end up finding out they have a husband or partber at home themselves. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'Blindman67' Quoting 'Meander'About lying, I think people have three reasons for doing so: 1. To get what they want (quicker and easier)2. To avoid getting into trouble 3. To get out of trouble. (Ok, maybe there's a number 4: Making someone else feel better, though cynical me believes that may be a cross between 1 and 2.) You miss one. 4. ........ 5. The compulsive liar. They, despite the trouble it causes, just have to lie every time they open their mouth, they just can not stop. Too true!
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'Long_time_lovers' SO WHY DO PEOPLE LIE ABOUT THIS ON THEIR PROFILES?? We just don't get it. Are smokers taste buds so damaged Too easy: smoking is an instant no for many here, making the smokers feel (imo) they aren't being given a fair chance.They might think that when you meet them and you all like each other it won't be a big deal. Some smokers in my experience convince themselves they are only social smokers and f they don't smoke for a bit before meeting you won't even notice. I met a lovely man once who smoked his last cigarette around twelve hours before our date, which was very considerate of him. Unfortunately the smell was in his hair and his clothes and his fingers were brown. I felt bad, but I just couldn't.
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RHP User
10 years ago
I am what you'd call a human bullshit detector . My intuition is at worst at least 99 percent accurate on a bad day . I am also very adept at reading even subtle body language and peoples facial expressions , and their eyes are also a great indicator of even a slight in the truth to their stories / intentions . While this can be very annoying and disheartening at times it serves me well at making descisions in my life , and with others and always has . It weeds out what i don't want and don't need . One chance is all a person will get with me and if my trust is abused .. Seeya no loss ! No matter how i feel about a person emotionally or sexually .. at the end of the day , especially on a site like this - you are replaceable . I don't abuse other people's trust or their feelings so - im definitely not going to tolerate you abusing mine ! Respect and honesty / being upfront is a two way street and if you aren't mentally or emotionally mature enough to understand that one small fact then .. you shouldn't even be using this site in my opinion . End of story .
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Mischeviouslad
10 years ago
I actually feel like I've inhaled the exhale of a smoker.... even if they haven't smoked for hours before being around me. It's weird, as if I have somehow inhaled the residue they exhale for hours after smoking. My chest feels tight, and my lungs feel hot. I just can't do it.
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RHP User
10 years ago
I am a bit similar to Mrs LTL. I start sneezing and if I don't get away soon enough, I actually run a fever soon after. My other favourite lie is someone saying they don't drink much, social drinker, occasional drinker, etc. Then when we go out, they keep on drinking until they can barely walk much less in a straight line. Quoting 'Long_time_lovers' We can't stand the habit, however we do say it more politely than that on our profile. Mrs LTL has an extremely sensitive nose so can pick a smokers house before even entering it, her nose will start to run or she will start sneezing in company with cigarette smoke. SO WHY DO PEOPLE LIE ABOUT THIS ON THEIR PROFILES?? We just don't get it. Are smokers taste buds so damaged that they don't realise that when a non smoker kisses them it's like kissing an ashtray? Unfortunately Mrs reacts so badly her mouth and lips start to tingle and go numb!!! That unfortunately is a real mood killer no matter how nice the company is. Four times people have tried to deceive us to no avail (usually we call people on it, the last time we didn't). Then what do you say- we had a really nice time but come on, really??? You think you can get away with not divulging you're a smoker when we say VERY CLEARLY that we are not looking for smokers? Are they so naive that these people don't think they will be discovered? For everyone's sake if you are a smoker be honest about it- it will not end well for you in the end if you are deceitful about it!! YUCK!! - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
10 years ago
Huh? Just curious if you have reasons for this statement or if you are just basing it upon women saying that men they have dealt with are asshats and taken that as all women hate all men? I detest the whole feminism means we hate men. Not so. I and many other feminists I know love men. But the difference is if you going to come at us like we are here for your amusement and pleasure, you are going to be in the 'men that aren't worth the time except as examples of male sexual entitlement' posts. Just sayin'.
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RHP User
10 years ago
This is becoming more of a feminist 'I hate all guys' site rather than an adult dating site.....
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RHP User
10 years ago
I'm attractive and funny all the time but they still.want to meet me. Go figure.
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RHP User
10 years ago
He should have stopped for at least three days beforehand.
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RHP User
10 years ago
It can be a big lie, small lie, little white lie. It can be for anything , work, relationships , friends. Not one person on this earth is honest, we all lie for some reason, some good, some bad, sometimes it's none of our business why. We all have lied to get a girl or guy or a job, I bet a lot have lied so they dont hurt a persons feeling because they like you but you don't. I've had girls lie to me because they don't want a relationship and next thing you know they are in one.
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'MissBhaven1_2' Huh? Just curious if you have reasons for this statement or if you are just basing it upon women saying that men they have dealt with are asshats and taken that as all women hate all men? I detest the whole feminism means we hate men. Not so. I and many other feminists I know love men. But the difference is if you going to come at us like we are here for your amusement and pleasure, you are going to be in the 'men that aren't worth the time except as examples of male sexual entitlement' posts. Just sayin'. I think I love you
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RHP User
10 years ago
I'm both hungry AND horny, I'm happy for you to decide which one to fix up first.
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On_Safari
10 years ago
I've met some truly genuine people here and the odd person not homest with themselves for the main. I've even been accused of dishonesty in my ptofile because I dare to have an ideal of what I seek in a man here among the hordes. Maybe I'm a fool to believe in honesty, I give it therefore I expect it in return. If someone's going to lie to me to get what they "think" they want good on them because they're deceiving themselves more than me. PLUS I have a pretty highly tuned inbuilt bullshit-o-meter and if I'm not feeling you I'm NOT FEELING you. This constant referral to RHP being a sex site shits me to tears too. Yes it can be used to scratch an itch but really, apart from a select few singles and the couples out there; how's that going for you all? I'm HUGE on quality over quantity and have to say....the quality here can be exceptional and guess what, they're HONEST too.....Surprise surprise!!
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'On_Safari'I'm HUGE on quality over quantity and have to say....the quality here can be exceptional and guess what, they're HONEST too.....Surprise surprise!! +1
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RHP User
10 years ago
All to often I see people wanting to believe the lie, rather than trust their intuition or take reasonable steps to validate a few things about the person. And if it seems too good to be true, then it probably isn't true - or you're just ignoring the bad bits because you want this guy to be your "knight in shining armour". My guess is that if you are open to acknowledging the other person will not be "perfect" then you will have a more well rounded view of the person. And I blame Disney for bringing up generations of women to think a "perfect" male will "save them and they'll live happily ever after". Kinda glad for the "girl power" of the Frozen movie (first time the guy has not saved the girl). Careful of your expectations of the guy as you might just want to believe his lies.
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RHP User
10 years ago
and I can waltz ;)
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RHP User
10 years ago
but not a very good one I tell lies no one believes but blurt out the truth when a lie would be the kind thing to do...I really do try to keep bullshit to a minimum...believe it...or not.
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RHP User
10 years ago
People are people....even if they lie a little there's always some story behind us all.... - Posted from rhpmobile
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passion8_l
10 years ago
Quoting 'Craigihe' With sites like RHP, where we can be rather specific about what we are after without real fear of ridicule or holier than thou type judgement, why would people feel that they need to 'embellish' the reality or outright deceive people?As I perceive the idea of sites like this, we put it out there, say what we want, can be clear about what we don't and then try our luck.Just seems that here, of all places is somewhere that lying seems rather stupid the ratio of men to women is 4:1 so if a man wants a woman but doesn't meet her criteria he will tell her whatever he thinks she wants to hear to get laid. I have received messages from men looking for "no-strings attached fun" and when I tell them I'm not what they are looking for because I want a little string over 50% of them tell me they want the same thing but haven't got around to changing their profile. NOTE this is NOT a man bashing comment, I'm simply stating my own experience and I am in no way saying that all men are like that or 50% of men on RHP are like that. I have met some lovely men on here who have been both honest and respectful otherwise I would not be here. Now before you
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mensbits
10 years ago
People on RHP have at least one thing in common, sex,..in whatever way pleases them.In your profile you state the facts, or you don't... if you don't, it's deceitful. Where is your moral compass? Oh yeah! Refer back to the first sentence! :-) Just tell it how it is,...Its easier :-)
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'On_Safari' I've met some truly genuine people here ! I've got you conned Oh, you weren't talking about me.
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passion8_l
10 years ago
Quoting 'passion8_l' the ratio of men to women is 4:1 so if a man wants a woman but doesn't meet her criteria he will tell her whatever he thinks she wants to hear to get laid. I have received messages from men looking for "no-strings attached fun" and when I tell them I'm not what they are looking for because I want a little string over 50% of them tell me they want the same thing but haven't got around to changing their profile. NOTE this is NOT a man bashing comment, I'm simply stating my own experience and I am in no way saying that all men are like that or 50% of men on RHP are like that. I have met some lovely men on here who have been both honest and respectful otherwise I would not be here. Now before you Not sure what happened there but that was supposed to say.......... before you shoot me down I want to reiterate that this is my opinion formed from my experience on this site and I am not suggesting that 50% of men lie. Incidentally, my failure to comment on the honesty of women does not translate to me believing they are honest, I simply have no experience to make that judgement. I can only say that I am always honest because I don't see the point in lying, you never know what might come from an encounter and trust is the foundation of a good relationship regardless of the nature of the relationship so I would not want it built on a lie.
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Darkerthangrey
10 years ago
This is not a dating site love .. Of course they will tell your the only one ... Try E Harmony .. I have been brutally honest in the lead up as to what I want and expect and they have run for the hills .. It's the weeding out of the bullshit that I get bored with .. Saying that I have hit the jackpot more than not !!! Good luck x - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
10 years ago
Passion8... I guess the intension is paramount to what you're after. If you're after a fantasy of a masquerade party where everyone's hidden behind masks then you're certainly not baring yourself to others and everyone plays along with the fantasy - and it could be perceived as a lie to what each person is really like. But we all enjoy the fantasy and enjoy some mystery. However, if your intension is a relationship then openness and honesty are important to build a good foundation. I guess the issue is that not everyone's intentions are the same, and "boys" and "girls" who have shallow intentions mess it up for those ladies and gentlemen who are after something deeper. What you put out there, says a lot about who you are, and only "losers" complain about the game, "winners" take the knocks and keep playing because they're aware what it takes to succeed. The minute I sense any dishonesty or shallow intentions, I walk away. I've found life's too short to devote energy and effort to these people - they just don't deserve it.
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On_Safari
10 years ago
We being a pigeon pair and all. Lol you can't chide and chider.
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team_Pringle
10 years ago
Mmm Guys who claim to be bi or curious and just mean to fuck the wife? ??? - Posted from rhpmobile
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zoe69r
10 years ago
team pringle you guys no how much I love playing with you both ,mmm . but its not just the lies that get me annoyed its the time you put into sending a message to either a couple or single woman and you get diddly squat back just a thanks but no thanks is all it takes . and how can a couple put down they want a bi guy but the male half is straight , how does that work?
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RHP User
10 years ago
We've had just one dishonest encounter (I won't bore everyone with the details, but it was awful). The only thing we dislike more than dishonesty is gossip. Especially from dishonest people... We avoid experiencing this again by being honest and upfront. For us this scene is about having fun doing things we both enjoy and exploring boundaries with each other. 99.99% of the time we've achieved this with beautiful, wonderful people. We've had some great experiences and we look forward to many, many more. xx - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'kaliopejane1' This is not a dating site love .. Actually, it is. It even says so on the home page. And I must say I've heard more lies on the vanilla sites than I have here.
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aussian43
10 years ago
The dishonesty I have encountered from these types of sites have all been scammers after my credit card details. I can see the attraction in lying (or stretching the truth is how they might justify it) to get the attention of a lady on the site. The odds are against men making a connection. But lies are too easily found out, and once that trust has been broken, it would be very hard to rebuild, especially in the online world when all she needs to do is block you. Better to be honest from the start. Using fake profile pictures? How do you ever expect to make a connection starting with a blatant deception like that?
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RHP User
10 years ago
I don't lie. This is why I no longer meet people.
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'Meander' Quoting 'jensman1903' unless his profile pic is photoshopped, he's juiced up and aggressive and wants to be heard without having to listen. Really Jman, that's just not cool.
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6exxy
10 years ago
Quoting 'passion8_l' Quoting 'passion8_l' the ratio of men to women is 4:1 so if a man wants a woman but doesn't meet her criteria he will tell her whatever he thinks she wants to hear to get laid. I have received messages from men looking for "no-strings attached fun" and when I tell them I'm not what they are looking for because I want a little string over 50% of them tell me they want the same thing but haven't got around to changing their profile. NOTE this is NOT a man bashing comment, I'm simply stating my own experience and I am in no way saying that all men are like that or 50% of men on RHP are like that. I have met some lovely men on here who have been both honest and respectful otherwise I would not be here. Now before you Not sure what happened there but that was supposed to say.......... before you shoot me down I want to reiterate that this is my opinion formed from my experience on this site and I am not suggesting that 50% of men lie. Incidentally, my failure to comment on the honesty of women does not translate to me believing they are honest, I simply have no experience to make that judgement. I can only say that I am always honest because I don't see the point in lying, you never know what might come from an encounter and trust is the foundation of a good relationship regardless of the nature of the relationship so I would not want it built on a lie. When I read your post i didn't read it as man bashing. Simply you expressing your experience. I do believe that everyone should be able to do that. Yes foundations are good. Some people are saying this is a sex site. Well some people use it as a dating site. That is a matter of personal choice.RHP is a vehicle to meet. I hope you find what you are looking for
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RHP User
10 years ago
Got a message yesterday from a guy who immediately stated his face pic wasn't him, and he would be happy to send the real thing once we got chatting. Sorry, but that's still deception in my book and not ok.
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RHP User
10 years ago
Furthermore did the owner of the photo give consent?? - Posted from rhpmobile
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madotara69
10 years ago
It seems that the person/s in a photo have little say for much at all, it is who pressed the button, owns the picture.
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RHP User
10 years ago
Quoting 'sir_stir' Furthermore did the owner of the photo give consent?? It wasn't a stock photo or something either, I suspect it was a friend or family member. Unless he was lying and it WAS him? The mind boggles.
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RHP User
10 years ago
I guess some people will do and say anything as long as they win, whatever their criteria of winning may be. It is a pity that they forget the object of their desire is another human being. The amount of damage done, just by a careless word, can be quite long lasting. It is like that story about people hammering nails into wood. Consider the nails like your words and the wood as the other person. Even if you are sorry afterwords and take them back, the holes would still be present. I recently had a conversation with someone. She prefers for people to hide things to protect others whereas I am someone who prefers openness.
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RHP User
10 years ago
Yeah either way....it's just plain creepy and weird... - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
10 years ago
Twice in the space of a week I had two men basically say they never lied about their relationship status...they just failed to mention that they were attached. Apparently if I had asked the question they would have told me...hmm didn't think to ask since profile states the person is single - Posted from rhpmobile
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Jackys94
10 years ago
yes it is very annoying when you tell all the truth and people lies to your face, both gender, make it hard to trust anyone.i'm in relationship but i love sex and exploring different women, and i say so. lol anyways, don't become liars because people lies to you. just enjoy the lifecheer~
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