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The uncomfortable truth

October 31 2014

We know that people lie at times. We know that sometimes it might be justified - for privacy, for safety, or for whatever justification fits your moral compass (everyone's is different, naturally). Reading the Fuck on First Dates thread, particularly comments by Sir Stir and Thrill Hunter, and thinking about some recent convos with friends, I'm aware that lots of times people lie because telling the truth is uncomfortable. For example ... It's uncomfortable to tell someone that you just want to fuck and have no intention of contacting them again. Easier to pretend, get what you want, and then revert to radio silence. It's uncomfortable to tell someone it's over because you don't feel the same way about them as they do about you. Easier to say that you're not ready for a relationship or they deserve someone better or whatever makes you feel less awkward. I've spoken with men who have convinced themselves that it's kinder to tell a woman a cover up reason for ending a relationship, instead of telling her, gently of course, that they're just not into her. I would MUCH rather be told the direct, clear, no bullshit truth and then make my own decisions in response to that. And from reading past forum threads, most people here also like to be told the real truth. So why do so many people - presumably those who also prefer to hear the truth - use weasel words and half-assed excuses and cover up stories rather than just tell it how it is? Why don't we all just treat others the way we'd like to be treated? - Posted from rhpmobile

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  • Fabolous69

    Fabolous69

    10 years ago

    everything i have said about me or my situation i have maybe "over" shared ..... i might have scared a few off with exactly what i want and dont want... there are just two little sretching the truth my real name and my exact suburb. I dont want people googling or facebooking or looking too closely, if i have not decided on pursueing anything When i set up a meet, i do then let them know my real name, but if they ask where i live i normally say, im close to the city !

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Quoting 'looking4quality' "The biggest coward is a man who awakens a woman's love with no intention of loving her...... I hate hearing "You deserve someone who, blah, blah, blah", or it's not you, it's me Honesty is such a precious commodity and costs nothing. Look, as a cd girl, I have given up on men. I am often ashamed of my gender.........No wonder I am a cd girl!!!!!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Quoting 'Meeka100' So reading a number of comments above I realise that so many people on here shit me to effing tears. Must be pretty up there on your high horses. Meeka.....As a technical male....I am sorry for my gender. It pisses me of too. Perhaps that is why i am whom I am.love you xxxxxxx

  • Mischeviouslad

    Mischeviouslad

    10 years ago

    I am not sorry for the gender of men. BUT..... there are a lot of men who have the ability to learn to be better men...... they simply have to make that choice. Until then, they are letting themselves down, and letting down the women they interact with. But, this isnt entirely a problem of the XY chromosome. DG

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    i do not like people who use the guise of telling the truth for being rude. "I just tell it like it is" Crap. You are being rude and mean. You don't have to see them again. But there is no need for meaness if to belittle someone's sexual prowess. If you have no interest. But be respectful and kind. Rejection is Always hard - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Whilst you may deter some potential meets and opportunities by being honest, it is, at least for me, the best way to go as there is no deceit and false hope...and at least, people are on the same page regarding what they are after and what happens next.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Here's a common one i hear from guys on this site .. I always practise "safe sex" . Like a more recent 27 yo fwb of mine who has a certain ( dramatic lol ) fwb off here that he sees also . Kind of had to point out to him on occassion that , it's pretty disrespectful ( something he claims on his profile he is *cough cough* ) if we've never used a condom for the past 3 months - even though she claims she is d & d free and practises "safe sex" also .... something i doubt though , if true she doesn't seem to be too fussy on the subject as opposed to what she states . Know that although the subject I've raised is not as in depth on the topic of lying .. i have to wonder just how many men , let alone women on here actually bend or just outright bullshit ( like him ) about practising the act of being safe sexually .

  • LusteeKaoz

    LusteeKaoz

    10 years ago

    I have read a lot of comments on here today. Some I agree with others I don't. Though I am not going to get into a debate over them, because these are the views of individuals and everyone has the right to their own views. Myself I try to be honest, and I often say that Honesty is brutal, to both parties, the one saying it and the one hearing it. I feel that people soften the truth and honesty to also avoid the brutality themselves. But then I read somewhere once that the truth has 3 sides. Yours, theirs and the truth and that no-one can tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth.(yes i know, its what you say when your in court, but lmfao lawyers always move the truth a little to the advantage of the client - so swearing on the good book for those who are religious, that in itself I find a tad hypocritical) Then there is the Media, they sensationalise the truth, they can take something that could to a lot seem trivial (whilst to the individuals it is not trivial but a pivotal point in their life) and make it into something so very very large scale and dramatic. Then we have our entertainment arena, movies, tv shows etc where the characters are constantly shown manipulating others to their own advantage. We grown up watching this and absorbing it. We move onto the internet, a faceless arena. It is a playground for many people. Some get enjoyment out of it, but still live in the real world. Others it is their life, but it gives them a barrier of protection. Allowing them to be someone they are not and say and do things they would not dream of being able to do when in a face to face situation. It removes the fear factor of having someone in front of you and having to see the reaction to your words. Some of you here know me and have heard me say it before. Putting the barrier of protection in place allows them to act more like A or Alpha type personalities (an inner desire of theirs) but if you ever get the change to remove this barrier the true person is on display. These are the people that I find are more likely to sugar coat the truth, tell a white lie, put deception in place. Because with the barrier they do not have to face the consequence of how the words or actions can effect or hurt others. These are also the people that for all the words, once they realise that the persons what are interacting with will not instantly have sex with them within 5 mins of meeting and that they will have to work at gaining that privilege, will do the vanishing act and take the road more easily walked to instant gratification. When we look at society as a whole, its no wonder that we all put small deceptions in place, even those of us whom try to be as honest as we can. We are raised with it around us as a normal part of society.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    It's human nature and a fact of life. Primarily, people lie to protect themselves although it isn't uncommon to lie to spare another's hardship. For example, if my family and I are doing it tough, you know, barely scraping by week to week (but still scraping by) and my parents ask how things are, I say, "No problem. All's good", because I know they would want to help if they knew. They're on a fixed income, living off their super which was lessened by the GFC. I'm not going to burden them with our problems unnecessarily. A small, harmless lie but a lie none the less.I've lied to my bosses save myself embarrassment or inconvenience regarding an illness that has me off work. (If I didn't tell them, I'm not telling you)....And yes, I've lied to other people to soften a blow. Yes, I did it not only to spare their feelings (while not at the exclusion of that consideration) but also to avoid an uncomfortable situation. Selfish but not entirely.So everyone lies while at the same time, everyone insists that they deserve to be told the truth. That's what they call a catch 22 ain't it?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    ...but I'm honest about it.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Its just telling someone what they THINK we want to hear..and really common on here. Lets face it, it aint cool..nor is saying you always have safe sex and dont. Not quite sure if ive misinterpreted the point here..but I wouldn't want those kinda msgs either meeka..thats a ralf vote for me too..but I dont want to make a tool of myself just to find out ive had a one nite stand after all.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    ;) the beauty of being around on rhp for too bloody long. Is pretty soon you can see those doing the sermon on the mount, trip on their robes and tumble down the hill. I lie. That's the truth, and like you said for a range if reasons. The best lie is when your about to have a baby. They say. This might hurt a little bit! Or sex, lies, and red hot pies. Is that why it's called telling a pork pie? - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    I think the only person actually telling the truth, the whole truth & nothing but the truth, is.......... Meeka. everyone else is putting lots of fluffy bits around themselves, making themselves feel good. Fact is they're all full of shit.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Quoting 'therightstuff1' I think the only person actually telling the truth, the whole truth & nothing but the truth, is.......... Meeka. everyone else is putting lots of fluffy bits around themselves, making themselves feel good. Fact is they're all full of shit. but at least I know I am full of shit though some think my shit smells like crushed rose petals

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    No fluffy bits here . Interesting comment though therightstuff1 . Can say without a shadow of a doubt i ( and i don't care how people perceive this ) have told a guy if he was bad in bed .. do not appreciate lies , little white ones or otherwise , and am upfront most of the time to the point of bluntness . If i wish to fk someone and not see them again .. i make it known . If i don't feel the same way about someone .. or im not ready for anything such as a relationship etc .. i make it known . I guess it's more of a case of its down to the individual and what they prefer more than anything . Some are content to be lied to even "for little white ones" for whatever reason that may be . Could be they have a fragile ego .. over sensitive or honestly think it's kinder . I personally just prefer to be direct myself and have that returned . No dramas , no fuss , no misconceptions because ultimately in the end .. you reap what you sow . Not everyone is willy wonka and feels the need to sugar coat shit . Just saying .

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Quoting 'therightstuff1' I think the only person actually telling the truth, the whole truth & nothing but the truth, is.......... Meeka. everyone else is putting lots of fluffy bits around themselves, making themselves feel good. Fact is they're all full of shit. Even with your input, Meeka is still the only one not full of shit. Way to go Meeks.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Quoting 'looking4quality' "The biggest coward is a man who awakens a woman's love with no intention of loving her...... I hate hearing "You deserve someone who, blah, blah, blah", or it's not you, it's me Honesty is such a precious commodity and costs nothing. Mind you today people are linked through media and not brains. One should always be honest. I know I have been from the people I have met. I feel at times that they will agree when they actually dont or hope things down the line may change. If things change it is something definitely I would bring up. Profiles on here sometimes shape RSVP or similar, in the end human nature and attraction is also physical and not a belt notch. Treat people with respect and dignity and the same should be returned. If not, you are a coward regardless if you are a male or female and if you intend something that you have no wish to follow through. There will always be meaningless sex, but sex is the deepest human connection and everyone connects differently (get your head out of the gutter Meeka is you are going to comment something arsey)

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Quoting 'therightstuff1' I think the only person actually telling the truth, the whole truth & nothing but the truth, is.......... Meeka. everyone else is putting lots of fluffy bits around themselves, making themselves feel good. Fact is they're all full of shit. God that is so true!

  • Mischeviouslad

    Mischeviouslad

    10 years ago

    I don't look good in fluffy bits. I much prefer the non fluffy ones.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    I am now picturing your head wrapped in huge flaps!! ⊂(◉‿◉)つ

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Nothing else to be said.People lie mostly to protect themselves from having to deal with conflict, tears, emotion etc. etc. But you know what ... this thing we are one.. RHP, or other such sites, 'relationships', sex, its all about emotion, feelings, conflict, mutuality... COME ON!!! Stop making little white lies a suitable substitute for passion and eating up LIFE!

  • inspirit

    inspirit

    10 years ago

    Why do people attach so much emotion to a sex site. Get off here and join RSVP. - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Cos they're such delicate little flowers :p The other thing is people only WANT to hear to what they WANT.... Yep I'm guilty of that...as I'm sure every cunt here is... But no one wants to hear what they NEED to hear....despite them asking for it .... Fucking hypocrites - Posted from rhpmobile

  • RHP

    RHP User

    10 years ago

    Today after an incredibly boring conversation,I told someone I just wasn't interested...Actually it wasn't really a conversation, all very much a one sided dronealogue....

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