F63
Ladies ... how common is it ...
June 20 2015
Comments
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Kandi, will post something about them on the A&E thread.
-
Seachange
9 years ago
make it more fun for the men to wear condoms,l to encourage them. surely we can play on the men's sense of adventure, swordfights and swashbuckling techniques? For instance, make condoms to look like light sabres, be the fuck jedis. glow in the dark. Name it Luke Sky-fucker. or whatever. Make it fun. The men would love to flash it around and no need to encourge nor suggest to them to put it on. They are heroes for the moment. so many ways to be pro-active to the situation.
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Because she had had a hysterectomy, double bonus, I'm snipped, so unless I'm going to father the Messiah, all good !
-
Mischeviouslad
9 years ago
Can you imagine getting to the point where sex is likely..... and instead if just slipping one on and getting down to business...... the guy wants to argue endlessly about how effective they aren't . LOL
-
Mischeviouslad
9 years ago
I get your point...... but no guy seeks a woman for sex just so that he can turn his dick into a light sabre lol.... it's about the sex..... and really, why can't that be fun enough to encourage condom use?!!!
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'Mischeviouslad' Quoting 'Blindman67' Why do you drag up my personal opinion, stitch it together out of context to present what. That I have my own opinion. Nice one DG, but that has nothing to do with the argument I present. I ask for logical argument to show that condoms are safer than not when having a lot of sex. BM... they were your words...... to contradict your opinions... and highlight the flaws in your argument. If you don't understand your own words...... well....... take it up with..... you! you didn't attack anything substantive in his post, so it was completely meaningless. Why didn't you present an argument against the meat of his posts?
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'Mischeviouslad' I get your point...... but no guy seeks a woman for sex just so that he can turn his dick into a light sabre lol.... it's about the sex..... and really, why can't that be fun enough to encourage condom use?!!! I think it would be fun chasing you around a dark room with your glowing light sabre showing the way....LOL LG
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Put on condom then use one to those silicon cock rings to seal the base. then slide a small rubber tube in that is long enough so you can blow (air) in it. Insert cock into the pussy and then blow it up. The cock ring will stop it deflating. Gives her that fuller feeling. Its hard work to blow it up , if you have a small pump that works well. Best done with XL condoms. Get two condoms, put the first one on, then unfurl the other one, put some Styrofoam beads in it, like those found in bean bags, or bee-bee pellets, or similar, then put it over the other. Now fuck away with an unique sensation. I have seen a condom applicator, It's a plastic molded device that has a condom inside and two small handles. Get hard grab the two handles and put it at the end of your dick then pull down, then pull apart to remove the plastic The condom unfurls effortlessly, you dont have to touch the out side of it thus reducing risk of contamination. According to the sales blurb, is the fastest way to put a condom on. I am a fan of a lady that can put the condom on with their mouth. If done well the guy should not even know she is putting it on until its on. I have to say its hard to do. Condoms also make good covers for hands for those into a bit of fistting.
-
Mischeviouslad
9 years ago
Quoting 'S_OnTheLoose' you didn't attack anything substantive in his post, so it was completely meaningless.Why didn't you present an argument against the meat of his posts? Because.... they were his own words.I didn't need to.
-
Mischeviouslad
9 years ago
Quoting 'Leo_girl' think it would be fun chasing you around a dark room with your glowing light sabre showing the way....LOL I think.... you have that one the wrong way round lol
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting Meeka Far out! Apologies for my atrocious spelling and errors above. Clearly I have syphilis of the eyes and my repeated dribbling on my keyboard makes my fingers slippery. So how about it.... Who is up for a root. I come with my own glad wrap onesie." LMAO....I do like your wit (& self-deprecating humour) . Thanks for brightening the afternoon KK 😂😚 - Posted from rhpmobile
-
RHP User
9 years ago
That's a non negotiable, especially if you don't know the person and have agreed to play safe. - Posted from rhpmobile
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'Meander' (Sorry if it's been covered, I didn't read all the posts), Have you ever had a new female partner tell you not to worry about a condom because she was on the pill/couldn't have children/wasn't ovulating at the moment/etc.? What was your response? Yes a few times, a long time ago. In each case it was women I'd known for a while before getting into bed and we trusted each other and discussed it. I remember saying no once, but let it go at least a few times. Never had a problem. In one memorable experience she'd just come out of a relationship where she didn't really trust the guy and always used a condom. She asked if I was clean - and I knew I was because I'd recently been tested. She was super keen for the feel of au naturel. It was pretty good, so we did it again a few thousand times over the next 15yrs. There's no way I'd do it while I was also in a relationship, and that covers most of the last 20yrs. In that case there's a responsibility to my partner that's far more important than my own welfare. But it hasn't come up in a long time, probably because the women I now have sex with are far more experienced and wise. And that's just fine with me, because these days it is only in monogamous relationships where I'd go without, and who wants one of those.
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Someone just mentioned to me in passing that you have some computer program that works out STI risk or something??? You should develop an STI App!! You would make a fortune. The Blindman's STI checklist. Or do they already have one?
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Reading every post is not compulsory...😣xxFreya
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'Mischeviouslad' Quoting 'Leo_girl' think it would be fun chasing you around a dark room with your glowing light sabre showing the way....LOL I think.... you have that one the wrong way round lol You'll have to come over and show me what you mean!
-
Seachange
9 years ago
I was being flippant. Facetious. But a bit if role play or fun in the bedroom can be a change of pace. And that was just an example thrown in late at night. Come to think of it, yes it would be fun, albeit geeky, to b chased around the room with their light saber glowing in the dark. Lol
-
luvsilver
9 years ago
We were with a couple.The wife mentioned a few times during play that she was on the pill so I didn't have to worry about using a condom.We did use one but it wasn't from lack of trying on her part.Anyone since then with us and even just observing others at a club I have always seen condoms being used as an automatic thing- no questions asked. Mr Luvsilver
-
RHP User
9 years ago
A while back I had a friend who wanted to play as a couple with another couple he knew. The husband refused to use a condom because "they were safe". I had never met them but at least it was discussed before wasting our time. Needless to say it didn't happen. LG
-
RHP User
9 years ago
It is a shame that people who say they don't use condoms get such a vitriolic attack here. The only people that will respond are the ones that use condoms. Condoms are not used by everyone, many guys dont like using them for a wide variety of reason. STI rates in Australia are very low among people that are sexually active. Yet if someone even suggests you don't use condoms and they get attached and shamed in this place. So much for open expression and freedom of thought and action. Oh and I think the shaming of BI that some members feel they need to do is not called for as well, keep it to your selves please.
-
RHP User
9 years ago
You have made your views on the safety and effectiveness of condoms very well known in this topic. Not everyone shares your views on that subject. It is a choice all adults make for themselves. There is no shaming going on here. No one has been named or shamed. People who don't use condoms may think about their choices if they read these forums responses and find out why they have been rejected. This topic is about sharing experiences where a playmate has lied or deceived the other about using condoms. If they don't want to use them then they should find people of the same frame of mind and not lie about it. PLEASE lets stay on topic. LG
-
RHP User
9 years ago
When I asked about it, he said he didn't think condoms were needed if "A chick is clean down there". (Yeah, I know.) So I queried why he would even consider fucking a woman who was dirty enough for him to feel he needed protection, and found myself blocked. Guess he didn't feel safe enough with me.
-
Seachange
9 years ago
Lol. Coz you are just a durty wanton woman For ythat virginal man. :-p
-
RHP User
9 years ago
That just beggers belief! and at what point would he regard a woman as not clean down there? LOL LG
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'Meander' When I asked about it, he said he didn't think condoms were needed if "A chick is clean down there". (Yeah, I know.) This gave me a vision of a guy inspecting a woman 'down there' with a magnifying glass to check if she's clean enough to fuck without a condom
-
Mischeviouslad
9 years ago
Quoting 'Meander' Guess he didn't feel safe enough with me. He just wanted a vagina..... but the brain got in his way.
-
Mischeviouslad
9 years ago
Quoting 'Leo_girl' That just beggers belief! and at what point would he regard a woman as not clean down there? LOL LG More to the point...... at what stage of proceedings does he make that decision...... and leave?!! $100 says a wanker like that doesn't get up and walk out. D
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Why would anyone believe the safe sex "always" seems a rather arbitrary way of vetting. Maybe they should have "cross my heart, I tell no lies." under it. I asked a women once, me: "are you clean?"She: "Yes?"me: "How do you know?" She: "Because I always use condoms."me: "You mean the guys you fuck always use condoms."She: "Yes."me: "But how do you know you don't have an STI?"She: "Because I would know if I had one!"me: "ah..OK? Have you ever been tested."She: "No don't need to be tested."me: "Why?She: "Because I used condoms."me: "OH!, so do you have any?"She: "What?"me: "Condoms, I don't have any, was not planing on doing anything."She: "No, but that's OK, I don't mind if you don't use them"me: "But I though you always use condoms."She: "Oh only if I think they may have something"me: "Oh!. So.. do you like oral?"She: "Yes."me: "Great me too."
-
Mischeviouslad
9 years ago
... here I go again misQuoting 'Blindman67'A woman asked me once.... him/her: "are you clean?"BM: "I know with confidence I am clean."him/her: "How do you know?" BM: "Because I get tested. I am not going to gamble with my health"him/her: "when were you last tested?"BM: "2 months ago."him/her: "when was your last sexual encounter?BM: "last week"him/her: "so how can you be sure you're still clean?"BM: "I trust the people I fucked without a condom."him/her: "You... trust... them?"BM: "Yes. I feel that if a condom is a must, I feel that its not worth it and I'd rather go without sex.... but... I trusted them and and sex." him/her: "how can you trust them?"BM: "Because I ask questions.... they tell me answers..... I make my judgements based on their answers.... I believe their answers and evaluate the statistics, so there dis no risk and therefore I trust that they're clean.him/her: "I think We should use one."BM: "If you want us to use condoms, we can.""him/her: "but you said that if a condom was necessary you'd go without sex?!"BM: "Only if I think its necessary.... not if you think its necessary...... but I trust you. I only fuck people I trust because condoms are ineffective against STIs, which I trust that I don't have since I was last tested. But I trust you, so if you want to use one, thats OK. I trust you. You can trust me too..... so we don't need to use them. him/her: "OK.... well.....um..... I have to go....."
-
RHP User
9 years ago
DG Putting words into my mouth, interesting tactic, to what end I am not sure. At least you are thinking of me and my sexual escapades. ;)
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Nicely done :) That's just gold!
-
RHP User
9 years ago
He probably thought I was a head-fuck. ;-)
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Is it ground hog day again? lol Blindman ... you are excused as you are blind and can't read my post LG
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Love it!
-
RHP User
9 years ago
That joke never gets old. ha ha ha oh cracking me up. he he he.
-
Mischeviouslad
9 years ago
Quoting 'Blindman67'Putting words into my mouth, interesting tactic, to what end I am not sure. Oh Blindy.... Im merely putting your own words back into the mouth they came from! Apparently.... the blindness extends to not recognising or remembering what you've posted in the forums.
-
RHP User
9 years ago
can we agree to disagree on this topic? No harm was intended. As a mere mortal being unoriginal is a fault i put my hand up to but it did feel appropriate.
-
RHP User
9 years ago
I am in Rome I may well do as the plebs do. Someone like Quoting Confused Lad. (CL) and girlfriend GF: "You up for some sex?"CL: "Sure! but I don't have any condoms."GF: "Come on CL we have been together for two years, surely we can forgo condoms."CL: "I don't want you to get pregnant."GF: "But I am on the pill, had my tubes tied, I'm 45 and don't want kids. Come on CL, I am really wanting it."CL: "Sorry not without condoms."GF: "Why?"CL: "You might have an STI."GF: "But we both got tested last week."CL: "We talked about this, I have been cheated on before, I cant trust you."GF: "Please, ill do that thing you really like?"CL: "No! Ill go to a chemist and get some then we can do it."GF: "I wont be here when you return."CL: "Why?"GF: "You have trust issues you need to deal with. Fuck me now or I am out of here."CL: "Not without a condom, my sexual health is more important than anything. Even you."GF: "Good bye then CL."CL: "Wait I found one its a bit old, but it will do, it will stop me catching anything from you. Honey, hello... "
-
Mischeviouslad
9 years ago
Blindy......You're not in Rome.... you're in Greece.... and we all see how well thats going for you both. LOL You're ego is taking objection to your own words........ thats Shakespearean irony at its most delicious. But....as Im certain this is all very tiresome to many others who will still use condoms although you tell them not to..... Im going to bow out on a high point and wish you a happy bum love without a glove. Im sure those guys you trust in your blindspot will be fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiine. DG
-
Chillihoney
9 years ago
I have Warts, Gonorrhea, Herpes, HIV, Chlymdia and Syphillis and you can have all of them if you like... Just to make a point and seems to work a treat ;)
-
TallBaldSexy
9 years ago
Would you hand that person your wallet/purse for a day? If Yes then You may consider unprotected & if no then....
-
RHP User
9 years ago
So what if I trust my lover enough to let him house-sit, look after my pets and know my pin number? ;-)
-
RHP User
9 years ago
I let my BFF (who I met on this site) stay at my place for 6 weeks last year when I went to Europe. The day before I came back he mentioned to me that he had moved a few things around. When I can back my whole living room had been rearranged and antennas moved, etc. LOL!! I also received some interesting pictures of my toys too while I was away. :P
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'SensualAries' Would you hand that person your wallet/purse for a day? If Yes then You may consider unprotected & if no then.... That is not the type of trust I would require. Few people are thieves, few would take something directly from you. Nor would that be any indication that the person is the type of person that considers personal sexual health as important. The trust in another has to be such that this person is as concerned about their sexual health as you are your self. The trust that they are consistent in action and words. I trust a thief to steal, and a liar to lie. Being a thief or a liar does not preclude them from the trust that they value their sexual health and understand what that involves. I trust that they would not knowingly have sex without disclosing they had an STI and I trust that they do all they can to know what their status is. If I can not see reason to give that trust then there will be no sex. (That does not mean no play, something some do not seem to understand.)
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Hold wallet... yes Pin numbers... yes House sit... yes In fact a previous heart flutter I had... we exchanges pin numbers bank accounts... keys... just to illustrate how much trust there was.
-
Mischeviouslad
9 years ago
Quoting 'Blindman67' I trust a thief to steal, and a liar to lie. Being a thief or a liar does not preclude them from the trust that they value their sexual health and understand what that involves. I trust that they would not knowingly have sex without disclosing they had an STI and I trust that they do all they can to know what their status is. If I can not see reason to give that trust then there will be no sex. (That does not mean no play, something some do not seem to understand.)But.... how do you know for sure.... if someone is a liar, a thief.... or carrying an STI.Trusting them doesn't make either.... fact. You won't know someone is a liar until they lie, and you may not ever know they lied to you. You won't know someone is a thief until they steal from you by which time its too late.And STI.... one lie.... one shared moment based around the lie... or even their truth on the back of their lack of knowledge.... and the clean-bill-of-health status from the last test has been stolen from you. Evaluating the risks is one thingTrust is another thing. Evaluation + trust + condoms..... is hardly going to be less risky... less of a "gamble". Just saying' DG
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'Mischeviouslad' Quoting 'Blindman67' I trust a thief to steal, and a liar to lie. Being a thief or a liar does not preclude them from the trust that they value their sexual health and understand what that involves. I trust that they would not knowingly have sex without disclosing they had an STI and I trust that they do all they can to know what their status is. If I can not see reason to give that trust then there will be no sex. (That does not mean no play, something some do not seem to understand.)But.... how do you know for sure.... if someone is a liar, a thief.... or carrying an STI.Trusting them doesn't make either.... fact. You won't know someone is a liar until they lie, and you may not ever know they lied to you. You won't know someone is a thief until they steal from you by which time its too late.And STI.... one lie.... one shared moment based around the lie... or even their truth on the back of their lack of knowledge.... and the clean-bill-of-health status from the last test has been stolen from you. Evaluating the risks is one thingTrust is another thing. Evaluation + trust + condoms..... is hardly going to be less risky... less of a "gamble". Just saying' DG If you cant pick a lair or a thief without talking to someone then I can not help you. Lairs are easy to pick, a thief a little harder, but you do not ask if they steal, nor do you ask if they lie. The same goes for testing, the questions are indirect and leave the wrong answer as the easy option. I will not have sex with someone that has never been tested, I will never have sex with someone that has been overseas for sex, I will never have sex with someone with an STI. These three facts significantly decrease my risk many time more than any number of condoms will ever do. Do you know if you have Herpes??? you have never been tested for it, one in five sexual active Australians have it, so there is a good chance you have it. Or what about HPV with 80% of people infected, have you ever had your doctor have a look see? Why would anyone have sex with you when you can not even guarantee you are clean. Or would you lie? Tell the good people here how the doctor makes sure you are not carrying HPV???? You insist on using condoms when in a long term relationship shows that you have no understanding of your own risk. Only a fool would risk sex with you. Only a fool would trust you when you say you are clean. When was your last test?? what were you tested for? Do you know if your partners have been tested and when? Would they lie?
-
RHP User
9 years ago
We're completely off topic. Again.
-
Single_Guy4U
9 years ago
"Have you felt that these excuses weres pre-meditated and the male had no intention of ever using protection? I'm referring to situations where using protection was been discussed before a meet." I suspect it is pre-meditated (and therefore they should not be trusted)
-
RHP User
9 years ago
it is NOT routine to test for hpv or herpies as most of the population have it . Unless you have a test to specifically state the virus is not in your system no one here can claim to be Sti free. Viral stds are different to bacterial . Condoms will prevent bacterial and in most cases hiv as it lives in seamen. Hpv and herpies live on multiple sites of the body making it easy to transmit. - Posted from rhpmobile
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'Single_Guy4U' "Have you felt that these excuses weres pre-meditated and the male had no intention of ever using protection? I'm referring to situations where using protection was been discussed before a meet." I suspect it is pre-meditated (and therefore they should not be trusted) In all the times I have gone to meet someone I have only once forgotten them. Not so much forgotten, but threw them in my bag, which turned out to have them fall behind the table. But without them we still had fun There is lots you can do without penetrative sex, which seems to be the only reason most need condoms for. I do agree that if its agreed that he bring condoms and then does not, its not something to instill trust. Though one mistake is not a crime, twice, well then there is seldom a third chance.
-
RHP User
9 years ago
yes I had it happen but I'm of the no hat no play mindset. I heard them all, can't feel it, I want to feel you, I'll pull out ........ - Posted from rhpmobile
-
RHP User
9 years ago
OP, I've had a couple of guys try to coax me into unprotected sex. Not sure if it was pre-meditated or not, because I never discuss it beforehand - I assume that we will be using protection, therefore no need to raise it ahead of time. Plus I always have my own, so there's no excuse. My response to both was 'Sure, no problem. I take it that you have no issues then if I get pregnant?' They couldn't get the condoms on fast enough after that.
-
RHP User
9 years ago
I've never had unprotected sex outside of my marriage and one very long term relationship. If I go on a date without condoms it's because I have no intention of having sex during that date. If things get intimate then the play doesn't get to penetration. - Posted from rhpmobile
-
Mischeviouslad
9 years ago
SO... I may as well use YOUR words again to point out the clear hypocrisy.Quoting 'Blindman67' If you cant pick a lair or a thief without talking to someone then I can not help you. Lairs are easy to pick, a thief a little harder, but you do not ask if they steal, nor do you ask if they lie. The same goes for testing, the questions are indirect and leave the wrong answer as the easy option. I will not have sex with someone that has never been tested, I will never have sex with someone that has been overseas for sex, I will never have sex with someone with an STI. These three facts significantly decrease my risk many time more than any number of condoms will ever do.On page 2 you acknowledged that ..."Yes there is an all to likely possibility that I could be deceived..." So if its likely.... either in your past... or in your future that someone will deceive you, regardless of how good you believe your questioning is.......everything else you have written in an attempt to paint yourself as superior to others means ZERO. Youi only have to be deceived once Blindman... and you say its likely.... and your sex life is I am tested regularly... AND I use condoms....always..... so all of this below.... Do you know if you have Herpes??? you have never been tested for it, one in five sexual active Australians have it, so there is a good chance you have it. Or what about HPV with 80% of people infected, have you ever had your doctor have a look see? Why would anyone have sex with you when you can not even guarantee you are clean. Or would you lie? Tell the good people here how the doctor makes sure you are not carrying HPV???? You insist on using condoms when in a long term relationship shows that you have no understanding of your own risk. Only a fool would risk sex with you. Only a fool would trust you when you say you are clean. When was your last test?? what were you tested for? Do you know if your partners have been tested and when? Would they lie? ...means jack jolly shit.The last line is again critical because it proves how silly your reliance on trust alone is... when you have conceded that "there is an all to likely possibility that I could be deceived..." The point is..... and this is what people have argued all along in this topic.... the responsible thing to do is to get tested, know your status, AND use condoms..... because you can't be 100% sure the other person is as responsible as they claim when answering questions. Simple stuff really. DG
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'Astrild' OP, I've had a couple of guys try to coax me into unprotected sex. Not sure if it was pre-meditated or not, because I never discuss it beforehand - I assume that we will be using protection, therefore no need to raise it ahead of time. Plus I always have my own, so there's no excuse. My response to both was 'Sure, no problem. I take it that you have no issues then if I get pregnant?' They couldn't get the condoms on fast enough after that.
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Well who doesn't like au naturale sex.... But having said that I for one always bring condoms, champagne strawberries and or chocolate. But yes girls, it's just a flimsy excuse........
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Agree with you totally regarding men and their fear of pregnancy vs. contracting an STI. But what also amazes me is how men seem take it for granted that the woman they're about to have sex with has got the contraception side of things under control. Some may ask if it's 'safe', but then seem to accept the woman's word for it that she's taking the pill (or is on some other form of contraception). And before everyone jumps on my case, I know I'm generalising here and it is based only on my experiences. Personally I know that even if a male 'pill' was available, I would still take my own contraceptive measures, rather than rely on the guy I'm having sex with to do it. So I can't understand why a man wouldn't do the same, and wear a condom if only to prevent an unwanted pregnancy?! DG gets it I know, but I'd like to know what the other male forum posters think? Do you trust a woman when she says she's on the pill etc.?
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Give DG and BM their own forum to continue their tennis match while leaving the other threads alone, but I think the mods couldn't handle the idea. Quoting 'Astrild' But what also amazes me is how men seem take it for granted that the woman they're about to have sex with has got the contraception side of things under control. Some may ask if it's 'safe', but then seem to accept the woman's word for it that she's taking the pill (or is on some other form of contraception). I think it gets worse when women are over a certain age (as young as 40) and these men just assume her fertile years are over. I've heard women in my personal life say that their "But what if I get pregnant?" response isn't even taken seriously.
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Yes, I've had that too. The fact is that I still get my period as regularly as clockwork *sigh*, so pregnancy is still a possibility. And even if its a remote possibility, I still wouldn't want to take that chance if I was a man.
-
RHP User
9 years ago
there's an op called a vasectomy guy's...
-
madotara69
9 years ago
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'xoJulesox' there's an op called a vasectomy guy's... A guy saying he doesn't need to wear a condom because he's had the snip will find himself kicked out of my bed.
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Condoms have reduced the risks of STI's since they were created. Why the hell would you risk it when playing with someone you have no idea about their sexual history? Hey... Don't get me wrong, do what you want to do. Just blame yourself and no one else if you catch an STI that could have been so easily avoided... Rant over :P
-
tylannister
9 years ago
Quoting 'Astrild' Do you trust a woman when she says she's on the pill etc.? I wouldn't say that I don't trust a woman when she says she's on the pill, but I can rely on myself and the protection I bring more - for both pregnancy and STIs. I'm snipped now, but before I was, I was hyper-paranoid - never used any of the 'thin' or 'ultra-thin' condoms, I'd try to discretely squeeze the tip of condoms after taking them off to check for leaks. In the long-term relationships I had,though, over time when we both developed trust in each other, I learned to trust that the pill would work - but I still remember how paranoid I felt for a while after stopping using condoms with my first girlfriend who was on the pill.
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Condoms do not always work, especially towards the end when it gets very vigorous. You pull it out and there is but the tattered remains of what was a condom. I have made a few trips to the doctor with a partner for the day after pill. When I am about to cum I just can not seem to notice if the condom breaks. Guys it does not hurt to ask the lady at what stage of her cycle she is. There are some times when you should avoid cumming inside her if you do not wish pregnancy, that is the only way to avoid unwanted pregnancy. Putting your faith in condoms is fool hardy as they do not provide a guarantee. So do you guys all know when a woman is most fertile and when she is not? I suspect there is some ignorance so for the few that don't know. For the average woman with a 28 day cycle, ovulation (when the ovary releases an ovum "egg") is around the end of week 3 in her cycle. The 6-7 days leading up and including ovulation (and 24 hours after) are when she is able to get pregnant. The ovum can survive 12-24 hours and sperm can survive 5 days . The female cycle can last between 21 to 35 days in adults so you must know how long her cycle is and adjust the timing to suit. If you have a breakage and you think there is a risk of unwanted pregnancy then go to a GP and get the "day after pill" this will terminate the pregnancy if fertilization has occurred. It is of course up to the woman, once you have dropped your supply you no longer have any say in the matter.
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'Cheeky_ACT' Condoms have reduced the risks of STI's since they were created. Why the hell would you risk it when playing with someone you have no idea about their sexual history? Hey... Don't get me wrong, do what you want to do. Just blame yourself and no one else if you catch an STI that could have been so easily avoided... Rant over :P Oh this is rich "... so easily avoided..." I am sure the thousands of people that got an STI with a condom on would not agree. This is exactly the type of attitude that does my goat. "Why the hell would you risk it?" yes why? and why would you still take that risk with a condom on? Condoms only reduce risk by 80% (4 in 5) you make it sound as if condoms are a perfect shield. If in a gun fight would you feel safe behind a wall that let one in five bullets through? Personally I blame the person that is carrying the STI and not aware they have it, or worse knowingly having sex with an STI and not telling the partner. It is your responsibility to do all you can to protect the other person, you should know if you have an STI. An STI can not be spread if there is none.
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'Meander' Quoting 'xoJulesox' there's an op called a vasectomy guy's... A guy saying he doesn't need to wear a condom because he's had the snip will find himself kicked out of my bed. following on from Astrild's post In addition to wearing a condomif pregnancy is a concern another risk factor minimized I have taken care of my end and out of the equation or your bedroom
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Guys not wearing a condom should always keep their end out my equation. :-P
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'Astrild' Agree with you totally regarding men and their fear of pregnancy vs. contracting an STI. But what also amazes me is how men seem take it for granted that the woman they're about to have sex with has got the contraception side of things under control. Some may ask if it's 'safe', but then seem to accept the woman's word for it that she's taking the pill (or is on some other form of contraception). And before everyone jumps on my case, I know I'm generalising here and it is based only on my experiences. Personally I know that even if a male 'pill' was available, I would still take my own contraceptive measures, rather than rely on the guy I'm having sex with to do it. So I can't understand why a man wouldn't do the same, and wear a condom if only to prevent an unwanted pregnancy?! DG gets it I know, but I'd like to know what the other male forum posters think? Do you trust a woman when she says she's on the pill etc.?
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Would I trust a 45 year old women not to want a baby and tell the truth about the pill. Yes, but maybe not a 22 year old but that will never happen. It is as much the mans choice as it is a woman's choice. I pick where I leave my sperm. If there is doubt then there will be no delivery. I have never blown inside a random (male or female), and I never will, but I feel I am in the minority in this regard.
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Vasectomy... and fortnightly Plasma donations (blood screening by the Red Cross) and those little sleeping bags for mice would still be essential wear... if I was doing any form of casual sex... but I am not. I seek my Yang to fit my Yin and should I find that I will look into her eyes and say... let's get tested together... then off we go!
-
RHP User
9 years ago
You know I was thinking about condoms and thought of an explanation as to why men in general don't particularly enjoy using them..... I suppose that when a woman feels a guy entering her there is probably little difference between the feel of a sheathed cock and a bare cock. However for a man, one of the most joyous feelings is feeling her lubricated pussy when you enter her. With a condom on, you just don't get that feeling..... Now, don't get me wrong, I'm not advocating for non use of condoms, I was just contemplating the whole situation.... Any comments on my thoughts?
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'joder181' You know I was thinking about condoms and thought of an explanation as to why men in general don't particularly enjoy using them..... I suppose that when a woman feels a guy entering her there is probably little difference between the feel of a sheathed cock and a bare cock. However for a man, one of the most joyous feelings is feeling her lubricated pussy when you enter her. With a condom on, you just don't get that feeling..... Now, don't get me wrong, I'm not advocating for non use of condoms, I was just contemplating the whole situation.... Any comments on my thoughts? Hi Joder Thank you for your contemplations. Speaking for myself and many other women, I am sure, I absolutely detest the feeling of condoms, especially when 99% of the time I get a reaction to the latext ones. I can only use non-latext. There seems to be a misconception that women have less sensitivity to penetration than men. If that is the case then why do we love it so much (when we are properly aroused). There is no better feeling than skin on skin for both male and female IMO. A brief description if I may of how it feels for me. The lumps, bumps, veins and ridges of the penis rub and create a more intense feeling on the vaginal walls. The slickness of a condom does not have the same effect and can be quite boring if arousal isn't high. Personally when condoms are to be used the warm up and foreplay via oral or manual stimulation is a necessity to receive any pleasure for a cock sheathed with a condom. I can honestly say that nothing comes close to the enjoyment of intercourse with a partner naturally and no additional lubrication is required. I found that condoms can dry me out. So no I don't agree that men are disadvantaged more than women when it comes to diminished sensations when using condoms. It still doesn't explain why some guys have no intention of using condoms when it was discussed beforehand. I guess its the deception of the situation and trying to coax someone into have unprotected sex that is what I have issue with. Thanking Blindman in advance for his views on the effectiveness or not of condoms!!! CheersLG
-
Mischeviouslad
9 years ago
Quoting 'joder181' You know I was thinking about condoms and thought of an explanation as to why men in general don't particularly enjoy using them..... I suppose that when a woman feels a guy entering her there is probably little difference between the feel of a sheathed cock and a bare cock. However for a man, one of the most joyous feelings is feeling her lubricated pussy when you enter her. With a condom on, you just don't get that feeling..... Now, don't get me wrong, I'm not advocating for non use of condoms, I was just contemplating the whole situation.... Any comments on my thoughts? Here's a thought... What feels better.... enjoying the sensation of having sex with a condom....ORenjoying the sensation of not having sex without a condom because she refused you. Choices choices....
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'Leo_girl' I can honestly say that nothing comes close to the enjoyment of intercourse with a partner naturally and no additional lubrication is required. I found that condoms can dry me out. So no I don't agree that men are disadvantaged more than women when it comes to diminished sensations when using condoms. We also miss out on the feeling of a man coming inside us.
-
Seachange
9 years ago
After so much info, unsolicited stats, personality checks via verbal interviews and any other rhetoric thrown about on the safety of the condoms, at the end of the day IT IS MY CHOICE HOW I WANT TO TREAT MY BODY. For me, it is simple. If I feel and believe that there is an element of risk to my health, my body and consequently my ability to care for my children in the fashion I choose, then there is no way I will be comfortable in indulging in bareback sex regardless of what you throw at me to convince me. anybody can roll out stats and we all know stats can be manipulated. I really dont give it much credence when it comes to my health and my future. I trust myself, I am very selective with whom I share my bed with to the point I only choose to have very few meets a year. My choice and I am comfortable with that. That trust does not extend to other casual sexual partners as I know that at the end of the day, it is I who need to face up to the consequences of my actions.
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'Blindman67' Condoms do not always work, especially towards the end when it gets very vigorous. You pull it out and there is but the tattered remains of what was a condom. I have made a few trips to the doctor with a partner for the day after pill. When I am about to cum I just can not seem to notice if the condom breaks. Guys it does not hurt to ask the lady at what stage of her cycle she is. There are some times when you should avoid cumming inside her if you do not wish pregnancy, that is the only way to avoid unwanted pregnancy. Putting your faith in condoms is fool hardy as they do not provide a guarantee. So do you guys all know when a woman is most fertile and when she is not? I suspect there is some ignorance so for the few that don't know. For the average woman with a 28 day cycle, ovulation (when the ovary releases an ovum "egg") is around the end of week 3 in her cycle. The 6-7 days leading up and including ovulation (and 24 hours after) are when she is able to get pregnant. The ovum can survive 12-24 hours and sperm can survive 5 days . The female cycle can last between 21 to 35 days in adults so you must know how long her cycle is and adjust the timing to suit. If you have a breakage and you think there is a risk of unwanted pregnancy then go to a GP and get the "day after pill" this will terminate the pregnancy if fertilization has occurred. It is of course up to the woman, once you have dropped your supply you no longer have any say in the matter. Excellent Sex Ed lesson, I honestly had no idea until this moment. Seriously! The condom is 'tattered' - are you using it as dental floss before hand for this to happen! And when you ask me 'what stage of my cycle' I'm at, and I give you a short sharp slap on the face, you can assume I'm in the PMT phase of my 'cycle'. And it's delightful that you are enlightened enough to know it's up to the woman to decide if she wants to pop a 'day after' pill! PS: No harm was intended to any male during the authorship of this post!
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'Josie8'Seriously! The condom is 'tattered' - are you using it as dental floss before hand for this to happen!And when you ask me 'what stage of my cycle' I'm at, and I give you a short sharp slap on the face, you can assume I'm in the PMT phase of my 'cycle'. This happens and I always use fresh highest quality condoms.I wonder if you check the use by date that is stamped on every condom package? Are they Australian quality or cheap imports? Many women expect the man to provide the condom, if you trust him to have fresh quality condoms then all is good, but many men have the cheapest box in the glove box of their car for months and years. Heat and age destroys them. Personally I think that women that takes the time to have their own supply are to be commended, and at least if the guy does produce an old cheap one they can always say "I think these will be more comfortable." To think condoms do not break is not being realistic. Every penis and vagina are different, the natural lubrication varies, and the vigor and duration of the sex all contribute to the likelihood of breakage or not. Condoms break, I know this from experience. Why would you infer they dont? such an odd thing to suggest. There is more than one way to skin a cat, I think it is important to know what stage a woman is at in her cycle when having sex with her. I have never been slapped and nobody has ever not given a reply. Its all about how you ask. You would be surprised what people say when you ask nicely. When having sex there has to be trust and communication. If a guy said he would bring condoms and he does not you can say "No" and rightly so, you are protecting your interests, but the guy equally has the right to address his concerns. Though it seems many think men will just take sex whenever it is available, most of us do end up learning that there is plenty of opportunity and saying NO is something we use to protect our interests as well. PS no fine grenache were drained during the sober scratching of this post.
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'lilyorchid' After so much info, unsolicited stats, personality checks via verbal interviews and any other rhetoric thrown about on the safety of the condoms... ... regardless of what you throw at me to convince me. anybody can roll out stats and we all know stats can be manipulated. I really dont give it much credence when it comes to my health and my future. I trust myself, I am very selective with whom I share my bed with to the point I only choose to have very few meets a year. My choice and I am comfortable with that. That trust does not extend to other casual sexual partners as I know that at the end of the day, it is I who need to face up to the consequences of my actions. Again I am perplexed, I do not oppose the use of condoms. The stats are there to provide people with an understanding that condoms offer very little in a the way of protection in an active sex life. I do so not for my gain but for the community. STI's are after all a communal problem and those that think they are safe behind the condom and thus dont get tested put others at risk. It is easy to get this information if you want to know the facts. The issue that I am starting to understand by the intolerant reaction to what I write is that the condom provides much more than protection against STI. The condoms is a item of power and it provides an element of responsibility to what some may consider irresponsible dirty sexual behavior. I kind I feel stupid not realizing that this opposition has nothing to do with protecting against STI's any moron can see that is not at issues here. I now understand that to lessen the perceived protection that they give reduces the perception of responsible sexual behaviour that they provide. I am sorry that this is so, but my concern is not with the morality of sex and how others feel when adopting a sexually active life style. I am very liberal in that regard. BUT I will continue to campaign for understanding and above all testing so to lesson the harm STI's do. This harm manifests its self mostly by making sex dirty. Sex is not dirty and condoms are not helping people understand that.
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'Blindman67' So do you guys all know when a woman is most fertile and when she is not? I suspect there is some ignorance so for the few that don't know. For the average woman with a 28 day cycle, ovulation (when the ovary releases an ovum "egg") is around the end of week 3 in her cycle. The 6-7 days leading up and including ovulation (and 24 hours after) are when she is able to get pregnant. As long as a woman has a cycle, there is no "not". Women can actually get pregnant while having their period. Relying on where a woman is in her cycle would be as just dumb as, according to you anyway, relying on condoms.
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'Blindman67' Guys it does not hurt to ask the lady at what stage of her cycle she is. There are some times when you should avoid cumming inside her if you do not wish pregnancy, that is the only way to avoid unwanted pregnancy. Putting your faith in condoms is fool hardy as they do not provide a guarantee. I know how you love your stats, so here are some stats for you (from WebMD): Condoms: number of unplanned pregnancies out of 100 typical users = 15 Fertility awareness methods + period abstinence: number of unplanned pregnancies out of 100 typical users = 25 Condoms: number of unplanned pregnancies out of 100 people that used the method exactly as directed = 2 Fertility awareness methods: number of unplanned pregnancies out of 100 people that used the method exactly as directed = 5 No contraceptive method provides a guarantee (something that as a stats lover you should well know). But recommending that people rely on fertility awareness over condoms is just ridiculous. We are all very aware of your issues with condoms, but you do yourself no favours and take away from some of your valid arguments when you throw around rubbish like this.
-
RHP User
9 years ago
*fertility awareness methods + periodic abstinence
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Tattered remains, BM? I think you're taking the screwing part too literally. Or maybe it's because your so sharp? :-P
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'Meander' Quoting 'Blindman67' So do you guys all know when a woman is most fertile and when she is not? I suspect there is some ignorance so for the few that don't know. For the average woman with a 28 day cycle, ovulation (when the ovary releases an ovum "egg") is around the end of week 3 in her cycle. The 6-7 days leading up and including ovulation (and 24 hours after) are when she is able to get pregnant. As long as a woman has a cycle, there is no "not". Women can actually get pregnant while having their period. Relying on where a woman is in her cycle would be as just dumb as, according to you anyway, relying on condoms. "Most fertile and not." How does that equate to "fertile and not." Is there a period when some people can not comprehend english, or is it mostly just obstinate belligerency. Yes women can get pregnant at any point. How about you tell us how often that happens. You do understand that many men have no clue about the female cycle. You are welcome to continue obfuscating the facts. Why you do so? I just do not know as it serves no good to anyone. .
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Please point out where I have said to stop using condoms. Why is it everyone assumes I am saying no to condoms, not once have I advocated not using condoms. I did not say use the fertility method over condoms. You assume and read in what I have not said. Why say I inferred thisQuote LD: "...recommending that people rely on fertility awareness over condoms is just ridiculous." Please take your personal prejudice out of the discussion. Quote LD:'Condoms: number of unplanned pregnancies out of 100 people that used the method exactly as directed = 2 (I assume this is without fertility methods?) Quote LD:Fertility awareness methods: number of unplanned pregnancies out of 100 people that used the method exactly as directed = 5' (I assume this is without condoms?) If I read this correctly it would mean condoms and fertility awareness would be even better. If condoms reduce it to 2 in 100 and then fertility methods are 5 in 100 then even a rough estimate (can not be precise as there is not enough info as need to know the rate of condom failure during high fertile times) can assume that of the 5 fertility failure 2 in 100 would result in pregnancy (2/100) * (5/100) = 10/10000 = 1/1000 Thank you for the stats as they in fact support my argument that fertility awareness helps reduce pregnancy. Though I am wondering if you too obfuscated with ambiguity the info you provided to bolster what ever you attempt engender? I will say it again. My stance on people using condoms is indifferent. Using condoms and not getting tested is what I am trying to stop . Condoms provide a false sense of security and that is dangerous and should be avoided (the sense of security) for the good of the community. Get tested. I in no way side for or against condom use. That is up to the individual and the individual circumstances.
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Please stop making this discussion about you personal opinion of me, you can do that else where. This thread is about men trying to get out of using condoms and how women react. I am providing information that is well researched so that people can make a more informed and educated decision when it comes down the the point of having sex or not with or without the condom. It is on topic or it would not have passes the moderators vetting.
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'Blindman67' The issue that I am starting to understand by the intolerant reaction to what I write is that the condom provides much more than protection against STI. The condoms is a item of power and it provides an element of responsibility to what some may consider irresponsible dirty sexual behavior. I kind I feel stupid not realizing that this opposition has nothing to do with protecting against STI's any moron can see that is not at issues here. I now understand that to lessen the perceived protection that they give reduces the perception of responsible sexual behaviour that they provide. I am sorry that this is so, but my concern is not with the morality of sex and how others feel when adopting a sexually active life style. I am very liberal in that regard. BUT I will continue to campaign for understanding and above all testing so to lesson the harm STI's do. This harm manifests its self mostly by making sex dirty. Sex is not dirty and condoms are not helping people understand that. This is just nonsensical rambling, full of unfounded judgement and assumptions about people you do not know. I don't know why I keep letting myself get drawn back into this debate, it is absolutely pointless and you just continue to live up to your handle.
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Why make a point of saying you don't want to read it? If it does not represent you then it should not matter, and it should not incite you to insult. It is common practice in debate to avoid personal insult and keep to the debate and issue relating. I do not live in a vacuum and talk to people from all walks of life about this subject. There are quite a few women (and men) that believe this is true, a fair few that read these forums and participate, where else would a blind man get this view from? Surely not from personal experience.
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'Blindman67' Please stop making this discussion about you personal opinion of me, you can do that else where. This thread is about men trying to get out of using condoms and how women react. I am providing information that is well researched so that people can make a more informed and educated decision when it comes down the the point of having sex or not with or without the condom. It is on topic or it would not have passes the moderators vetting. I haven't mentioned my personal opinion of you in this discussion. I have expressed my opinion of some of the content of your posts and the way you have conducted yourself on the forum, which I am perfectly entitled to do. No, you are not on topic considering the topic explicitly asks that the discussion not be around the effectiveness of condoms. And the OP has since asked you more than once to stay on topic. But you just keep ignoring her and derailing the discussion, which is incredibly rude and arrogant behaviour. Like I said to you previously, start your own topic and then you can 'educate' as much as you like.
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Oh, so you didn't mean when a woman is not fertile, just when she is not MOST fertile... But stil fertile. I give up. To quote one of my favourite songs: Ramble on.
-
RHP User
9 years ago
BM, I quoted your comment and commented on said post. I did not attack your character. You responded with "Is there a period when some people can not comprehend english, or is it mostly just obstinate belligerency." And: "You are welcome to continue obfuscating the facts". I didn't become personal. You did. Pot, kettle and the rest.
-
RHP User
9 years ago
All I can say is ... peace all ... LG
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'Meander' Oh, so you didn't mean when a woman is not fertile, just when she is not MOST fertile... But stil fertile. I give up. To quote one of my favourite songs: Ramble on. Its simple english "when a woman (noun subject mater) is most fertile(postnominal adjectives modifying the subject noun)and when she(pronoun referring to the woman when she "is most fertile") is not (the negative adverb combined with the copula "is", defining the opposite of "when a woman is most fertile")" If asked what is "is not" referring to? The answer has to be "a woman that is not most fertile" not "a woman that is not fertile" I can not believe this was a mistake on your part. It is you that deliberately formulated "not fertile" failing to include the modifying adjective "most", but you did understand that the adjective "fertile" was associated. Then as you continue to "ramble on" as you try once more to belittle via an irrelevant statement intended for no other reason than insult. Though I deliberately miss interpreted it, to give you the benefit of the doubt due to the ambiguity, that you asked me to ramble on. Happily... I hope this helps ease any worries you may have had to cause you to once again attempt to misrepresent another's comments. A ploy I have noticed you use a lot in these forums.
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Great this thread is still going though. The more people are forewarned about others trying to get out of using condoms at the last minute, the more will be forearmed.
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'Meander' BM, I quoted your comment and commented on said post. I did not attack your character. You responded with "Is there a period when some people can not comprehend english, or is it mostly just obstinate belligerency." And: "You are welcome to continue obfuscating the facts". I didn't become personal. You did. Pot, kettle and the rest. It has to be personal as you had either not understood or where obstinately belligerent. I removed the question mark as it was a rhetorical question. And you did!
-
Mischeviouslad
9 years ago
Quoting 'Blindman67' Now where have I seen that behaviour before.
-
RHP User
9 years ago
I'd hate for this thread to be removed
-
RHP User
9 years ago
Quoting 'Luck_Dragon' Quoting 'Blindman67' The issue that I am starting to understand by the intolerant reaction to what I write is that the condom provides much more than protection against STI. The condoms is a item of power and it provides an element of responsibility to what some may consider irresponsible dirty sexual behavior. I kind I feel stupid not realizing that this opposition has nothing to do with protecting against STI's any moron can see that is not at issues here. I now understand that to lessen the perceived protection that they give reduces the perception of responsible sexual behaviour that they provide. I am sorry that this is so, but my concern is not with the morality of sex and how others feel when adopting a sexually active life style. I am very liberal in that regard. BUT I will continue to campaign for understanding and above all testing so to lesson the harm STI's do. This harm manifests its self mostly by making sex dirty. Sex is not dirty and condoms are not helping people understand that. This is just nonsensical rambling, full of unfounded judgement and assumptions about people you do not know. I don't know why I keep letting myself get drawn back into this debate, it is absolutely pointless and you just continue to live up to your handle. though it does make some sense when people say things like they don't care about objective risks presented, they know what is best for them. Anyway, I think you could draw an analogy with airport security - on any given flight, the security may or may not actually prevent some danger to the flight, but people feel safer and more comfortable having some form of security there, even if they can't definitively point to instances when it actually kept them safe. Everyone engages in behaviours that don't have a super solid basis in fact when examined objectively, yet they still engage in that behaviour because they feel that it will garner the desired outcome.
-
RHP User
9 years ago
I've stopped reading Blindman's comments altogether so I won't be tempted into any further pointless engagement with him.
Boards
-
Hot Topics
Topics: 14361 Comments: 120840
-
Girls Ask
Topics: 1355 Comments: 14709
-
Guys Ask
Topics: 2425 Comments: 17234
-
Couples' Corner
Topics: 2405 Comments: 12737
-
Swingers Lifestyle
Topics: 794 Comments: 5154
-
Fetish & Fantasy
Topics: 1148 Comments: 6957
-
Hot Travel
Topics: 622 Comments: 2145
-
LGBT
Topics: 156 Comments: 1150
Forum help
-
Something related with that
-
Going somewhere & want to hook up?
-
Hasn't that topic been posted before?
RHP's popular dating tool
-
Where the heck did that topic go?
Discover what RHP is doing offline
-
RHP member's RL secrets
reply
like
Share